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New World Order Alert: Is The Vatican Going To Team Up With Israel Over Jerusalem?

Posted by Job on May 12, 2009

For those who are not familiar with Caroline Glick, she is very neoconservative and very Zionist. Here, she is stating that Israel should cease working with America and start pursuing a mutually beneficial relationship with Egypt (over Iran) and the Vatican (over Jerusalem). First Egypt: Iran sponsors the Muslim Brotherhood, which is a threat to Egypt’s fragile regime, which will become even more so once Egypt’s aging ruler leaves power. Egypt wishes to reduce Iran’s influence in order to make sure that the nation does not fall into the hands of jihadists. Second the Vatican: Glick asserts that the Vatican could be convinced that the only way to protect “Christian holy sites” in Israel and specifically in Jerusalem is to ensure that they remain in Jewish control and out of Muslim hands.

Now Glick has come out and stated that she opposes the establishment of a Palestinian state for at least two generations, and that during this time Israel should impose heavy measures to keep the Palestinian population subdued, and also take control of Palestinian schools and brainwash – excuse me educate – Palestinian children into hating everything Muslim and Arabic and turn them into pro – western Zionists. After this point, the Palestinians would either willingly desire to be ruled by Israel under terms that benefit Israel and stop demanding a state, or would accept a state that would be Israel’s puppet. In other words, Glick is willing to come out and publicly state what Israel’s neoconservative secular Zionists are usually unwilling to. (This is as opposed to Israel’s paleoconservative and/or religious Zionists, who openly or covertly simply wish to drive the Palestinians out of Israel.)

However, Glick is signaling that she – and the faction that she represents – may be willing to change their tune and give the Palestinians a state much sooner if the Vatican throws its considerable political muscle behind keeping all of Jerusalem in Israeli hands, and speaking out against Palestinian terrorism (which groups ranging from the secular and religious left to conservative Catholics to some Reformed Protestants are willing to pretend does not exist).

Now the majority of Palestinians and Israelis have long favored a two state solution. A dirty little secret is that elements in both the Palestinian and Israeli leadership claim to want a two state solution publicly while working to undermine it behind the scenes. If the Vatican is able to pick off the neoconservative secular Zionists like Glick, Benjamin Netanyahu, and Avidgor Lieberman, that would create a coalition with the moderate and liberal Israelis that would be big and powerful enough on the Israeli side to get it done. The only barrier, however, would be the Palestinians’ putting together a viable government that supports a two state solution and peace. We know that this isn’t Fatah/PLO, and it certainly isn’t Hamas. But it is something that bears watching.

The Vatican joining hands with neconservative Zionist Israelis is just about the last thing that I could have ever imagined happening, but it suits the interests of both sides. By supporting Israel, the Roman Catholic Church helps get past its role in the Holocaust, which badly hurts its image and ability to recruit and retain members in Europe. This will become a particular issue in the next few years when the Vatican elevates Pius XII, the pope who was in charge during the Holocaust to “sainthood.” And the Obama administration’s turning America’s interests in the Middle East away from Israel and towards Iran and Syria – and many believe that this could be a permanent change of policy that will persist no matter which party controls Washington – gives Israel no choice but to seek a new powerful ally. As the EU and Russia have been overtly anti-Israel for some time, it is basically the Vatican or nobody. 

Now as to the Christian Zionist element … I suppose that they will fall in line over this. Ever since the time of Billy Graham and particularly the rise of the religious right, evangelicals, especially dispensationalists, have not only become very friendly with the Vatican, but have actually followed its lead, sometimes knowing it but often not. Dispensationalists have taken school vouchers, faith – based programs, and other initiatives to funnel tax dollars into Roman Catholic dioceses as if it is their own agenda, and also got involved in the Terri Schiavo incident (one completely driven by the Roman Catholic governor of Florida Jeb Bush) and in the process of doing so advocated for the extrabiblical Roman Catholic traditional teachings on end of life issues. And how many Protestant evangelicals love having Scalia, Alito, Thomas and Roberts on the Supreme Court (Kennedy not so much)? And let us be honest: the neoconservative publicity machine, whether it is magazines like the Weekly Standard and the National Review and talk radio … they aren’t dominated by evangelicals. They are dominated by Roman Catholics and neoconservative Jews. Conservative Christian Zionists such as the ones who support torture patronize that media and allow their political AND RELIGIOUS views to be shaped by them. So, if the Vatican and the secular neoconservative Jews (the religious Jews by and large won’t have anything to do with Christians) begin the full court press on talk radio and on the conservative websites that keeping Jerusalem and making Israel secure so the construction of the third temple can take place is all that REALLY MATTERS, then the John Hagee/Pat Robertson contingent (and the many far more respectable and mainstream fellow travelers of this doctrine i.e. those who supported the war in Iraq) will quickly fall in line.

But again, the major shoe that needs to drop for this to actually take place is a viable and (by all appearances) pro – peace Palestinian government led by a (and this would really really help) a charismatic leader to come about. Now that may be Obama’s job: to identify and train such a leader and put him in power (as our government has been known to do in the past … America trained both Usama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein and put them in place, and did similar with the group that is now running Iran). 

Please see link to article where this gets discussed below:

Our World: Opportunity is knocking at Israel’s door


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Ecumenism Taken To Logical Conclusion: American Bible Society Gives Bible To Pope Benedict

Posted by Job on October 8, 2008

A delegation from the American Bible Society presented Pope Benedict XVI with a one-of-a-kind Bible on Tuesday at the Vatican.

  • The special version of the Biblica Polyglotta (Polyglot Bible) that was presented to Pope Benedict XVI on Tuesday, Oct. 7, 2008 at the Vatican.
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    The special version of the Biblica Polyglotta (Polyglot Bible) that was presented to Pope Benedict XVI on Tuesday, Oct. 7, 2008 at the Vatican.

The 3,200-page Biblica Polyglotta (Polyglot Bible) was created in honor of the XII Ordinary General Assembly of the Synod of Catholic Bishops, Oct. 5-26, taking place at the Vatican. The theme of the Synod of Catholic Bishops is “The Word of God in the Life and Mission of the Church.”

Along with the special version for the pope, ABS also presented the Vatican with 1,000 additional copies of the Scriptures, which will be given to visiting dignitaries as the official biblical gift of the Holy See.

Biblica Polyglotta bears the seals of the Vatican and the American Bible Society (ABS).

All those attending the Synod will also receive a copy of the Bible.

“We join you on the journey to rediscover the Bible as a precious treasure both ancient and ever new,” said the Rev. Dennis C. Dickerson, chairman of the board of trustees of the American Bible Society, in gratitude of being able to share the multi-language Bible with the pope.

“It is with great pleasure and happiness we return to the Bible again and again to deepen our understanding of the Word of God and rekindle our love for it.”

A polyglot Bible is a multilingual Bible in which the different texts are displayed in parallel columns.

The massive project took ABS scholars nearly a year and a half to translate the Scriptures into five different languages for the Old Testament – Hebrew/Aramaic, Greek, Latin, English and Spanish – and four different languages for the New Testament – Greek, Latin, English and Spanish.

ABS hailed the joint project as the beginning of a new relationship between the Bible ministry and the Vatican.

The same ABS delegation to the Vatican will present the only other copy of the special text to the Archbishop of Canterbury in the United Kingdom on Oct. 10.

ABS was founded in 1816 and has its headquarters in New York City. The mission of the ministry is to make the Bible available to every person in a language and format they can understand and afford.

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Christians Considering No Longer Saying Yahweh Or Jehovah

Posted by Job on October 6, 2008

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All You Ever Needed To Know About The New Apostolic Reformation Deception

Posted by Job on July 27, 2008

The New Apostolic church movement

New Apostolic Reformation

The Third Wave New Apostolic Reformation

New Apostolic Reformation And Global Peace Plan

Herescope: Geographical Heresies of the New Apostolic Reformation

The “New Apostolic Reformation

The New Apostolic Reformation: some of its shapers and methods. They’re also targeting our youth.

The New Apostolic Reformation and its ties with Rome

Rick Warren Connections – Especially to the Ecumenical Third Wave

The New Apostolic Reformation What is it and where is it going

The Apostolic Reformation

A STRONG DELUSION – The New Apostolic Reformation

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The Vatican: George W. Bush Is The Most Roman Catholic President Since John Kennedy

Posted by Job on June 13, 2008

Anyone remember this post of mine? 

Pope Benedict XVI Plus George Bush Plus Battle Hymn Of The Republic Plus Five Supreme Court Justices Equals FASCISM!

Folks claimed that I was conspiracy – mongering again. Well check this out:

George W Bush meets Pope amid claims he might convert to Catholicism

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