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T.D. Jakes Exposed For The Heretical Liar That He Is And What It Means For The Church

Posted by Job on January 26, 2012

All right folks. I said that I was going to give this online discernment ministry thing up. The first reason was that there were too many false teachers and doctrines to keep track of. The second reason was that based on my interactions with those following these false preachers even after their unBiblical scandalous doctrines and behavior had been exposed that folks were going to believe what they choose to believe anyway. The third was that I had felt that I had adequately addressed the issue with the 3 years of blogging that I did dedicate to the topic. The fourth was that I felt that the best way to combat error was with the truth, so I decided to take this site in a more exegetical direction. And the last of those was also chosen for practical reasons: I no longer have the time to answer comments and interact with people that I did back when I made exposing false teachers so writing about scripture’s meaning and application seemed to be a superior use of time (and yes I do need to get back to writing about the Bible).

But the T.D. Jakes issue is timely right now due to Jakes’ recent appearance at a respected evangelical event of some estimation where he was “interviewed” by Mark Driscoll, where the topic of Jakes’ rejection of the Holy Trinity was discussed. Now I don’t mean to attack anybody, but one Christian blogger quickly proclaimed Jakes’s statement satisfies me that he is a Trinitarian and that we should celebrate that Jakes has joined the Trinitarian camp. (Which, er, makes all his time as a false preaching modalist heretic and the people that he deceived during that time “ok” I guess. The truth is that at best he was an unregenerate false teacher when he was in the pulpit before, and even if he believes in the Holy Trinity NOW and is born again NOW, he has no business in the pulpit. His previous experience and service is worthless, and he needs to take his place in the pews learning from an actual Christian pastor. Otherwise, we can go get Jewish rabbis, Catholic priests, Buddhist monks, Muslim imams, and liberal “Christians” who perform homosexual “marriage” ceremonies and put them into the pulpit immediately after they say a salvation prayer.)

Another Christian blogger made a similar – though more guarded – statement: “By far, the session that was most anticipated was the one in which T. D. Jakes was asked to clarify his position on the Trinity. Thankfully, he did so – though perhaps not in a way that would satisfy all of his critics. I believe we should celebrate his affirmation of the truth that there is one God in three Persons.”

The problem with doing so: Jakes own words on the Holy Trinity in the past and present. Now, here is a link to the transcript of the Elephant Room session, judge Jakes for yourself. But what follows is MY evaluation.

Part 1: I used to follow T.D. Jakes. Now … not so much. Without calling him a liar (while actually, you know, calling him a liar) allow me to propose that just because Jakes says something does not make it so. So … just because Jakes says that he believes “One God three Persons” DOES NOT MEAN that we should take it at face value. Jakes has been “less than forthcoming” on many issues in the past, so he does not deserve the benefit of the doubt. Just because Jakes is in the pulpit and calls himself a Christian does not mean that we should believe what he says. So no, listening to what he says and being “satisfied” requires a presumption that he is telling the truth, a presumption that he does not merit. Does that sound harsh, the bitter words of someone who has “church hurt” as it is called? Well keep reading.

Now in one context I can be SYMPATHETIC to Jakes’ views because I don’t like the wording or terminology used by the Cappadocian fathers myself. But this unease with the Cappadocian formulation needs to be addressed by someone other than Jakes. Why? Because Jakes has been known to be less than honest with the truth, and not merely on this issue. Recall that when Jakes was first challenged on the Trinity doctrine by Christianity Today, he submitted a modalist doctrinal statement that he insisted be accepted as Trinitarian!

Do not take my word on this: another ministry came to the same conclusion, that Jakes was dishonestly trying to pass off modalist heresy for orthodoxy. When challenged on it, he dissembled, claiming that his views on the Trinity were adapting and growing, that he was studying and learning more about it, and how Christians need to stop all this infighting and arguing about such things as minor differences in phraseology and get to the weightier matters of the kingdom, and such excuses for retaining and defending heresy as “these things are too mysterious to be comprehended or explained.” Jakes even resorted to race-baiting, stating “Christians will never agree on every theological issue any more than the colors of our skin will all suddenly match.” So, if Jakes was a liar and a demagogue on this Trinity issue in the past,why should we presume that he is any different now? What has changed to make us presume that Jakes has changed? Especially since he is still preaching heresies in other areas, such as the prosperity doctrine and trying to pass off ecstatic babbling done by mystics in many false religions as “speaking in tongues”?

Part II: From the transcript, it really does appear as if Jakes is fine with “persons” in his Trinitarian statement so long as “persons” is synonymous with “manifestations.” Basically, he says, “well, so long as I can call a ‘person’ a ‘manifestation’ then I am Trinitarian.” He says “My doctrinal statement is no different from yours except the word” – and Driscoll finishes his thought – “manifestations.” What he says next is a amazing.

“Manifest instead of persons. Which you describe as modalist, but I describe it as Pauline. When I read…let me show you what I’m talking about…when I read I Timothy 3:16 – I didn’t create this, Paul did.” And then he goes onto the time-honored modalist lying techniques from the pit of hell: “I think it’s important that we realize that our God is beyond our intellect. And if you can define Him and completely describe Him and say you are the end-all definition of who God is, then He ceases to be God. Because the reason Paul says it is a mystery, is that we deify the fact that God does things that don’t fit our formulas. And because people’s formulas and understandings of a description of an unbiblical God did doesn’t make them demonic.”

Let us go to his abuse of I Timothy 3:16. Yes, the King James Version that many oneness pentecostal liars claim is the only translation – and I used to be KJV-Only myself, and still today am KJV-Preferred, but not because of the translation itself but the texts used to produce the translation, as I believe text criticism used to produce the new manuscripts is a false science – reads “manifest” as its rendering of the Greek word  phaneroō. But other versions translate phaneroō to be “appeared” and “revealed!”

Another thing: phaneroō’s definitions: “to make manifest or visible or known what has been hidden or unknown, to manifest, whether by words, or deeds, or in any other way.”  So, rather than being a “mode” or “state” or “relationship” after the doctrines of the oneness heretics (for example, as water has a liquid, solid and gas manifestation as water, ice and vapor) phaneroō’ in this context merely meant how God was shown to men! That is revelation, after the same manner that the Greek word apokalypsis was used in Revelation 1:1. Paul could have just as easily used apokalypsis instead of phaneroō!

Further, according to the definition, what can phaneroō “reveal” or “manifest”? A PERSON! It is right here in definition 1d in a common Bible lexicon placed online via BlueletterBible.com:

1) to make manifest or visible or known what has been hidden or unknown, to manifest, whether by words, or deeds, or in any other way

a) make actual and visible, realised

b) to make known by teaching

c) to become manifest, be made known

d) of a person

1) expose to view, make manifest, to show one’s self, appear

e) to become known, to be plainly recognised, thoroughly understood

1) who and what one is

Jakes is exposed as a liar by exegesis of the very text that he used to claim that he was telling the truth! In this Jakes fulfilled the prophecy in Psalm 10:2, which reads “The wicked in [his] pride doth persecute the poor: let them be taken in the devices that they have imagined.”

Now the dictionary entry makes the Cappadocian utilization of “Person” more justifiable in my mind and it who knows, the Cappadocian fathers might have relied heavily on 1 Timothy 3:16 when they formulated their Trinity doctrine (which would make Jakes’ abuse of that text still more ironic) because that text refers to the revelation of the Person of Jesus Christ and not the mere exhibition of a mode of existence or relationship (and moreover this revelation refers to Christ’s existence being shown to the world; for phaneroō to have the meaning that Jakes claims that it does, THE TERM WOULD HAVE TO REFER TO HIS INCARNATION IN THE WOMB OF MARY, NOT HIS EXISTENCE AND WORKS BEING WITNESSED BY MEN, WHICH IS THE TRUE CONTEXT OF 1 Peter 3:16 AS WELL AS REVELATION 1:1, WHICH AGAIN IS WHY APOKALYPSIS COULD EASILY HAVE BEEN USED INSTEAD) but I confess to still uneasy with it. But the difference between me and Jakes is that JAKES IS LYING. That is the bottom line.

But you know what? This is not truly about Jakes anyway. The reason is that anyone who goes and clicks on the T.D. Jakes category on this blog will know why no legitimate Christian pastor should touch Jakes with a 10 foot pole, unless that pastor has been instructed by God to smite Jakes with it. Instead, it is about the people that are embracing him. It is one thing for the decadent TBN (who has their own tag) Pentecostal abomination to embrace Jakes, and please recall that it was TBN who made Jakes into an international figure. TBN is run by a man who paid off a TBN employee with whom he had a homosexual encounter with, and has since been sued by another man making the same charges. These charges and the many other scandals are commonly known by those who patronize that network anyway and … well now you see why I felt that there were better uses of my time than exposing people who have already been exposed because people simply do not care!

But now, TD Jakes is being embraced by the “more respectable” corners of evangelical Christianity as represented by (ironically named) The Gospel Coalition, which includes some of the most prominent pastors and theologians in evangelical Christianity today. Now of course, there was significant “debate” over inviting Jakes. The fears of those objecting were quite founded, as it resulted in Mark Driscoll, himself a very troubling personality, doing very much to rehabilitate Jakes, largely because of Driscoll’s own desire to push his false anti-cessationist doctrines into the Reformed/Calvinistic evangelical movement. Also, those who would have challenged Jakes rather than accommodate him were not allowed to participate.  But the fact that there was even a debate at all shows how far gone the evangelical landscape is! Having Jakes in the Elephant Room should have been as much a nonstarter as having Richard Dawkins or Pope Benedict!

And that brings us to the real issue: further evidence that the evangelical church in America is veering off the rails. (It is such times that even people who MILDLY stand against Jakes and his lies are the ones to be mocked, opposed and condemned.) Is the great apostasy, the great falling away of 2 Thessalonians 2:3 upon us? This event is prophesied in scripture, and will come to pass. It is a very tragic development in and of itself, but 2 Thess 2:3 tells us that the great falling away is a precursor to – or more accurately a precondition for – the coming of the beast, the anti-Christ, the man of sin, which occurs during the great tribulation. It is my position that the church will experience this great tribulation, and not be raptured from or otherwise escape it, as many pastors and teachers propose. So as difficult as things are now for the church as evidenced by its willingness to not only suffer but endorse and promote such false teachers as Jakes, it is only paving the way for even tougher times to come. Christian, watch and discern the times. Pray. Be strengthened and encouraged in the Lord so that you will not be deceived, that you will resist temptation, and stay in the faith.

For those of you not in the faith, realize that the proliferation of false doctrines and those who gain wealth, fame and power by teaching them does not undermine Christianity, but rather is evidence that the Bible is true, for Jesus Christ Himself and His apostles predicted that such a time as this would come thousands of years ago; Christ referred to men such as Jakes as ravening wolves in sheep’s clothing. That many will follow such people is evidence that narrow is the gate that leads to salvation, and wide is that which leads to destruction!

Enter into the narrow gate. Be saved in the Name of Jesus Christ. Repent of your sins, believe in Jesus Christ. Follow

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Spiritual Warfare: Are You Prepared?

Posted by Job on May 15, 2008

From http://prophecyfellowship.yuku.com/topic/7001/t/Spiritual-Warfare-Are-You-Prepared.html

“And ye shall tread down the wicked; 
for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet
in the day that I shall do this, saith the Lord of hosts.”
Malachi 4:3 

I.Every child of God has been given a promise of victory over Satan. 

Isaiah 54:17 “No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord …” 

Malachi 4:3 “And you shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the Lord of hosts.” 

Luke 10:19 “Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.” 

Romans 8:38-39 “For I am persuaded that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers … nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.” 

James 4:7 ” … Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.” 

1 John 4:4 “You … have overcome them: because greater is He that is in you, than he that is in the world.” 

II. It is important that we recognize who our enemy is and what his tactics are. “For we are not ignorant of his (Satan’s) devices.” 2 Corinthians 2:11 

A. Our battle is “not against flesh and blood ” (things in the natural realm), “but against … spiritual wickedness.” “For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal …”
2 Corinthians 10:3-5
Ephesians 6:12 

B. Authority must be taken over Satan’s attempts to hinder the work and the word of God. There are spiritual powers that must be broken. 

Daniel 10:12-13 
1 Thessalonians 2:18 

C. Satan’s main device is deception. 

1. Subtlety. 

Genesis 3: 1 “Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field …” 2 Corinthians 11:3 

2. Doubt. 

Genesis 3:1 “Yea, hath God said … ?”
Luke 4:3, 9; Matthew 4:3, 6 “If thou be the Son of God … if …”

3. Lies. 

Genesis 3:4
John 8:44 

III. The Bible uses several metaphors to describe the “fight of faith” (1 Timothy 6:12) that the believer must wage against the evil one. 

A. Boxer. 

1 Corinthians 9:26 “I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air …” 

B. Soldier. 

2 Timothy 2:3-5 “Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ. No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.” 

Ephesians 6:11-17 “Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil…. take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore …” 

C. Wrestler. 

Ephesians 6:12 “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” 

IV. What does it mean to “resist the devil”? How can this be done? 

A. The armor of God. 

Ephesians chapter 6. 

1. Truth. (v. 14) 

2. Righteousness. (v. 14) 

3. Salvation. (v. 17; 1 Thessalonians 5:8) 

4. The gospel of peace. (v. 15) 

5. Faith.

Ephesians 6:14 1 Thessalonians 5:8 

a. Paul says that faith is of primary importance: “above all …” 

Ephesians 6:16 “Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.” 

1 Peter 5:8-9 “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh seeking whom he may devour: whom resist steadfast in the faith …” 

1 John 5:4-5 “For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith …”

b. But faith and the word are inseparable. 

(1) The word did not profit them, not being mixed with faith. Hebrews 4:2 

(2) Yet faith comes through the word (“rhema “) of God. 
Romans 10:17 

(3) It must be both by confession of the mouth and belief 
in the heart. Romans 10:9 

6. The word of God. 

Ephesians 6:17
Mark 11:24-25
Numbers 13:30 

a. It was the spoken (“rhema “;) word that Jesus used in confronting the devil in the wilderness. He did not recite miscellaneous scriptures to the devil, but delivered the word of God with authority and power. 

Luke 4:4, 10, 12 

b. Notice that this is the only offensive part of the armor, referred to in scripture as a “two-edged sword.” 

Psalms 149:6-9 
Ephesians 6:17 
Hebrews 4:12 
Revelation 2:16 

B. The weapon of praise. 

Numbers 10:9, 35; 31:6-7
1 Samuel 16:23
2 Chronicles 20:21-22 (Note especially the fact that it was their initiative: “when they began …”)

Psalms 68:1-2; 149:5-9
Isaiah 33:3
Joel chapter 2
Acts 16:24-26 

C. The anointing. 

1 Samuel 16:14-23
Isaiah 10:27 

D. Prayer. 

Luke 22:31-32 

V. To stand victoriously in battle against the enemy, certain spiritual requirements must be met in the life of the believer. 

A. Obedience. 

Deuteronomy 11:22-25
Deuteronomy 28:1, 7 

B. A right relationship with God. 

Deuteronomy 11:22-25
Psalm 91 

C. No area of the life left exposed to the devil: giving him no foothold. 

Ephesians 4:27 

VI. It is the responsibility of the believer to prepare for battle, to put on the whole armour of God” (Ephesians 6:11), and to “stand against the evil one” (vv. 11-14) – these are active verbs. 

But it is God Who fights the battle. Indeed, Jesus Christ has already defeated the enemy for us. We must simply walk in the victory! 

Deuteronomy 20:1 
2 Chronicles 20:15 
Colossians 2:15 

WHAT IS THE ARMOR OF GOD?

Why Spiritual Armor?

Rom 13:12 (NIV) The night is almost gone, and the day is near. Therefore let us lay aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light.

Jer 46:3-4 (NIV) “Prepare your shields, both large and small, and march out for battle! Harness the horses, mount the steeds! Take your positions with helmets on! Polish your spears, put on your armour!”

1 Cor 14:8 (GLT) For if a trumpet gives an uncertain sound, who will get himself ready for war?

Stand!

Luke 21:36 (NIV) “Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.”

Mal 3:2 (NAS) But who can endure the day of His coming? And who can stand when He appears?..

1 Cor 10:12-13 (NIV) So, if you think you are standing firm, be careful that you don’t fall! No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it.

Jude 1:24 (Wey) But to Him who is able to keep you safe from stumbling, and cause you to stand in the presence of His glory free from blemish and full of exultant joy…

Jas 4:7 (NAS) Submit therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.

*The Belt of Truth

Eph 6:14 (NRS) …fasten the belt of truth around your waist…

Isa 11:5 (NIV) Righteousness will be his belt and faithfulness the sash round his waist.

Ex 12:11 (NIV) This is how you are to eat it [the passover lamb]: with your cloak tucked into your belt, your sandals on your feet and your staff in your hand…

1 Kings 18:46 (NIV) The power of the Lord came upon Elijah and, tucking his cloak into his belt, he ran ahead of Ahab all the way to Jezreel.

Eph 4:25 (NKJ) Therefore, put away lying, “Let each one of you speak truth with his neighbor.”

The Breastplate of Righteousness

Php 3:9 (NRS) …Not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but one that comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God based on faith.

Isa 59:16-17 (NAS) …Then His own arm brought salvation to Him, and His righteousness upheld Him. He put on righteousness like a breastplate, and a helmet of salvation on His head…

Ex 28:15 (NIV) “Fashion a breastpiece for making decisions… Make it like the ephod…”

1Ki 3:9 (NIV) So give your servant a discerning heart to govern your people and to distinguish between right and wrong.

Ps 94:15 (NIV) Judgment will again be founded on righteousness, and all the upright in heart will follow it.

Pr 2:7-8 (NIV) He holds victory in store for the upright, he is a shield to those whose walk is blameless, for he guards the course of the just and protects the way of his faithful ones. Then you will understand what is right and just and fair–every good path.

Standing on The Gospel

Eph 6:15 (NIV) …your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace.

Eph 6:15 (Wey) …as well as the shoes of the Good News of peace–a firm foundation for your feet.

Rom 10:15 (KJV) …As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!”

(Imagine yourself standing barefooted in a rocky climate, like in the Middle East. You could move–ever so carefully–but without shoes you would be useless in battle. The weight of the other pieces of armor would only make your feet more sensitive if you had no protection. You would be a “push-over” for the enemy, as you would have no agility and be wincing in pain every time you attempted to move. This is why it is essential to have our “feet shod with the gospel of peace”;) 

The Helmet Of Salvation [Jesus]

Isa 59:16-17 (KJV) And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him. For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and a helmet of salvation [Yeshua] upon his head…

1 Th 5:8 (NAS) But since we are of the day, let us be sober, having put on the breastplate of faith and love; and as a helmet, the hope of salvation. 

Ps 140:7 (NAS) “O God the Lord, the strength of my salvation [Yeshua], You have covered my head in the day of battle.”

*Jesus–Yeshua in Hebrew–means “Salvation”. Salvation is Jesus Christ*

Col 1:18 (NKJ) And He is the head of the body, the church…

1 Cor 2:16 (NIV) “For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ. 

Php 2:5 (NKJ) Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus…

1 Pet 4:1 (NKJ) Therefore, since Christ suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same mind, for he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin.

2 Cor 10:3-5 (NRS) Indeed, we live as human beings, but we do not wage war according to human standards; for the weapons of our warfare are not merely human, but they have divine power to destroy strongholds. We destroy arguments and every proud obstacle raised up against the knowledge of God, and we take every thought captive to obey Christ.

Eph 4:14-16 (NKJ) …We should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head–Christ–from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.

The Sword of The Spirit – The Word of God

Isa 49:2 (NAS) He has made My mouth like a sharp sword, In the shadow of His hand He has concealed Me; And He has also made Me a select arrow, He has hidden Me in His quiver.

Heb 4:12-13 (NKJ) For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.

2 Cor 6:7 (NIV) …in truthful speech and in the power of God; with weapons of righteousness in the right hand and in the left…

Ps 149:4-6 (NIV) For the Lord takes delight in his people; he crowns the humble with salvation. Let the saints rejoice in this honour and sing for joy on their beds. May the praise of God be in their mouths and a double-edged sword in their hands.

The Shield of Faith

Eph 6:16 (Wey) …take the great shield of faith, on which you will be able to quench all the flaming darts of the Wicked one.

Ps 35:1-3,9 (NIV) Contend, O Lord, with those who contend with me; fight against those who fight against me. Take up shield and buckler; arise and come to my aid. Brandish spear and javelin against those who pursue me. Say to my soul, “I am your salvation.”… Then my soul will rejoice in the Lord and delight in his salvation [yes, Yeshua again].

Ps 3:2-3 (GLT) Many are saying of my soul, There is no salvation for him in God. Selah. But You, O Jehovah, are a shield around me; [you are] my glory and He who lifts up my head.

1 Pet 1:5 (NAS) …who are protected by the power of God through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

Ps 33:20 (NIV) We wait in hope for the Lord; he is our help and our shield.

1 Tim 6:12 (NIV) Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses.

1 John 5:4-5 (Wey) For every child of God overcomes the world; and the victorious principle which has overcome the world is our faith. Who but the man that believes that Jesus is the Son of God overcomes the world?

Pr 30:5 (NIV) “Every word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.”

Be Strong In The Lord, By the Power of Grace
1 Cor 16:13 (NIV) Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be men of courage; be strong.

2 Tim 2:1 (GLT) …Be empowered by grace in Christ Jesus.

Eph 3:7 (GLT) …I was made a minister according to the gift of the grace of God given to me, according to the working of His power.

2 Cor 9:8 (NIV) And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work.

Col 1:11 (Wey) Since His power is so glorious, may you be strengthened with strength of every kind, and be prepared…

Php 4:13 (NAS) I can do all things through Him who strengthens me.

The Battle is The Lord’s

1 Sam 17:47 (NKJ) [David, speaking to Goliath] “Then all this assembly shall know that the Lord does not save with sword and spear; for the battle is the Lord’s, and He will give you into our hands.”

Deut 20:3-4 (NIV) …”Hear, O Israel, today you are going into battle against your enemies. Do not be faint-hearted or afraid; do not be terrified or give way to panic before them. For the Lord your God is the one who goes with you to fight for you against your enemies to give you victory.”

Ps 18:32-35 (NIV) It is God who arms me with strength and makes my way perfect. He makes my feet like the feet of a deer; he enables me to stand on the heights. He trains my hands for battle; my arms can bend a bow of bronze. You give me your shield of victory, and your right hand sustains me; you stoop down to make me great.

Zec 4:6 (NIV) …”‘Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,’ says the Lord Almighty.”

Rom 11:36 (GLT) Because of Him, and through Him, and to Him are all things. To Him be the glory forever! Amen.

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Amazing Four Part Series On Religion Versus Faith!

Posted by Job on March 3, 2008

Christians, this is meat that you have to read. They are long, but come on, you have time! What else do you have to do this evening anyway? Watch TV? Yeah right!

The Religion of Do

Battling the Unbelief of Lust

The Righteousness That Exceeds That of the Scribes and Pharisees

The Just Live by Faith

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Jesus Only Oneness Pentecostalism: Did Jesus Christ Deny His Own Divinity?

Posted by Job on December 12, 2007

A lot of people accuse me of causing unnecessary strife and division with my contending against oneness pentecostalism, saying that one way or another it is just a doctrine that no one understands with good arguments one way or the other, so that the only thing that matters is believing in the deity and resurrection of Jesus Christ and being holy. The problem with this, however, is that the actual contents of the Bible say otherwise. First, we have this fascinating statement from Jesus Christ that appears in all three of the synoptic gospels:

Matthew 19:17: And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Mark 10:18: And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

Luke 18:19: And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

So from reading these scriptures, what conclusion should you come to? That Jesus Christ was not God, but only a messenger of God: a prophet, a special man, or perhaps an angel. Right? Realize that many who deny the deity of Jesus Christ use those scriptures and similar to claim just that! But instead, let us examine these scriptures more closely.

You might recognize this as the incident of the rich young ruler. Realize that at no time did Jesus Christ openly declare His divinity. He came the closest to the Samaritan woman (when He acknowledged being the Messiah, and neither the Jews nor the Samaritans were expecting the Messiah to be deity), when He said “before Abraham was, ‘I AM'”, and at His trial when He spoke of Himself as the Son of Man (which Judaism did not take to be a term referring to deity but rather an angel or prophet) who would sit next to the Father. Jesus Christ rather waited for others to declare His deity (as with Simon Peter, Thomas, and the woman taken in adultery). With Simon Peter, Jesus Christ asserted that knowledge and acceptance of His deity came not from man, but rather from the Holy Ghost. We can presume that to be the case in general.

Based on the behavior of the rich young ruler, who chose NOT to follow Jesus Christ but turned aside, we can presume that this fellow was not aware of Jesus Christ being deity, but rather considered Him to be a great prophet or teacher. Jesus Christ, of course, knew this. There are various examples in scripture of Jesus Christ being willing to suffer such people for a time and meet them where they were, but driving them off when He became weary of them, such as His telling the throng “you must eat my flesh and drink my blood to have eternal life”, and they replied that the teaching was too hard and all but a few left, and even those few He asked “Will ye go also?”

So when Jesus Christ told this man not to call Him good but that there was none good but God, he was speaking to a JEW that did not know HIM as God but only knew of the FATHER, the Father in Heaven whom Christ said that A) He came from, B) whose Will He was doing, C) was His own Father, D) that He would return to. The Father who spoke from Heaven when He was being baptized. The Father who forsook Him when He was on the cross bearing our sins. Deuteronomy 6:4 says “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD.” And Jesus Christ said no different. He said “I and the Father are One.” But He never said “I and the Father are THE SAME.”

Realize that according to Jewish law, worshiping any but the Father was blasphemy. When Christ forbad the rich young ruler from calling Him good, He was telling the young ruler to either recognize and worship Him as God or worship the Father only!

And here is one even more problematic. John 14:7-10 reads “If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.”

This is actually oft used in support of oneness, despite A) Jesus Christ saying that there was none good but the Father to the rich young ruler and B) Jesus Christ saying that He was IN the Father and the Father IN Him (which actually opposes manifestations, modes of existence, relationships, “God is like an egg with the Father being the yolk, the Son being the white, and the Spirit being the shell”, and all other oneness doctrines).

But that is not the point. The point is here: John 1:18No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared Him.” So reconcile that with John 14:7-10 i.e. he that hath seen me hath seen the Father why don’t you? Claiming that John the beloved disciple rejected the deity of Jesus Christ is ridiculous. Claiming that Jesus Christ did not recognize His own deity or that He lied is also unacceptable, as is claiming that John 1:18 is wrong. The only explanation: the God that was referring to John 1:18 is Adonai, the Ancient of Days, God the Father. You can claim that John 1:18 refers to no one ever having seen the Father manifestation, relationship, mode of existence, egg yolk, etc. at any time, but at no point does the Bible say that. Just as (and again, to borrow from the oneness people themselves) the Bible never uses the term “Trinity.”

So as you see, Trinity either denies the deity of Jesus Christ or makes the New Testament plainly ridiculous. So Christians, it is not just some doctrine that can be accepted or discarded as a whim. Quite the contrary, the integrity of the Bible (for it is easy to see Trinity in the Old Testament as well once accepts it) and Christianity with it is at stake. As such, any Trinitarian Christian that chooses to support the oneness preachers, fellowship with oneness pentecostals, etc. then you are joining hands with those that are divided against scripture.

What did Jesus Christ say about divided houses? They shall not stand. Christians that play games with the Bible in this fashion are double minded. What does James 1:8 say about double – minded? “A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.” Pay special attention to the verse before it. “Let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.” Lest I be accused of playing games, James 1:2-8 is about the double – minded. You say that double – minded refers to those that lack faith? Well so do I. Oneness pentecostals deny that the Bible’s many references to Trinity are true, and use excuses that they themselves do not live by in other context (i.e. trinity not being mentioned in the Bible … neither is the term incarnation, the term that refers to the Word becoming flesh, by the way) and with their lack of faith that Deuteronomy 6:4 denies that God can exist eternally in three Persons without being three gods.

If you are a oneness pentecostal or other denier of Trinity and this presentation has not convinced you, well we shall have to agree to disagree. The purpose of this is Trinitarians that see nothing wrong with following, supporting, and fellowshipping and worshiping with those that deny this doctrine, claiming that it does not matter. I say that claiming that Jesus Christ denied His divinity in one place only to affirm it in another, or that John contradicted himself in his own gospel are very serious matters indeed that go to the heart of scripture and the foundation of our faith! It is more than about the pastor with great preaching skills, the speaking and tongues and shouting, or the outstanding choir and praise and worship, or seeing these famous preachers on TV (during which time many of whom do not speak of their opposition to the true nature of God) with their huge churches. Without sound doctrine, it is all in vain, like chaff consumed in a fire.

And no, this is not a “let the wheat and tare grow together” instance. Otherwise, that would contradict the warning to the church in Revelation 18:4: “And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” Since Jesus Christ cannot and does not disagree with scripture, Matthew 13:24-40 clearly says that the field that the tares are sowed into is THE WORLD, not the church. That would make oneness tares, part of the world that we are told to come out of in Revelation 18:4. And see what James 4:4 has to say about friendship with the world. Christianity is 100% serious, which means that Christians must stop playing games and start taking the scriptures seriously!

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