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The Error Of The Evangelical Manifesto

Posted by Job on May 15, 2008

The “Evangelical Manifesto.”   Last Wednesday, a group of prominent
Evangelicals released the “Evangelical Manifesto: A Declaration of
Evangelical Identity and Public Commitment.”  The Steering Committee
includes: Os Guinness; Timothy George, Dean, Beeson Divinity School, Samford
University; Rich Mouw, President, Fuller Theological Seminary; and Dallas
Willard, Professor of Philosophy, University of Southern California.  It has
been signed by apx. 80 “evangelical leaders,” though when a trained eye
looks through the list of signers, it becomes apparent what this document is
really all about.

For those who have been part of the Liveprayer family for a while, you might
remember me mentioning the gutless Dr.Mouw back in December of 2004, who
along with Ravi Zacharias, became pawns used by the Mormons to give them
mainstream credibility.  Here is an excerpt from that 12/07/04 Devotional:
“Mouw preceded Zacharias and amazingly apologized, yes, apologized to the
Mormon crowd of roughly 7,000 stating, ‘We evangelicals have sinned against
you. We have demonized you.’ Since when was exposing the false gospel of the
Mormon cult a sin? That is exactly what we are supposed to do! Also, the
last I checked, those who lead people’s souls into everlasting damnation are
demonic!”

First of all, let me state the obvious.  We already have an “Evangelical
Manifesto,” it is called THE BIBLE and it has the greatest author of all
time…GOD!  The real purpose of this document is to create a shift in power
regarding those who are seen as the Christian leaders of our day and those
who speak for the Christian community.  Many years ago, I had to make some
hard choices.  Do I build a giant ministry organization and preach to the
choir like the rest, putting my voice into the same mix as Falwell,
Robertson, Kennedy, Dobson, Graham, and the others, or follow God’s calling
as a true evangelist and reach out to the lost and hurting souls outside the
four walls of the church, and take on more of a prophetic ministry to reach
this lost world with God’s Truth.  I made the decision to pass on the
comfort, prominence, prestige, and financial security of building another
Christian organization, and chose instead  to give my life reaching the lost
and hurting with the hope of Jesus Christ.

That choice has given me the unique position of being free from the politics
of the “church,” and allowed me to not have to compromise the Truth of the
Bible to keep a “Christian business” going.  Like the prophets in the Old
Testament, I have been in the unique position few are in, to deal with the
issues of the day and in people’s lives without worrying about pleasing men,
only God.  My focus has never had to be about raising money for
infrastructure and operations, only for saving souls.  I have no other
agenda but God’s.  My goals aren’t earthly but heavenly.  My legacy won’t be
in buildings or the temporal things of this world that will one day soon be
gone, but the lives God has used me to impact and the eternal souls of men.

Many of those who put together and signed this document are for the most
part those who I have warned you about in recent years, this emerging group
known as the “Christian left.”  Prominent signers of this murky document are
people like Jim Wallis, founder of Sojourners, and Rick Warren, Pastor of
Saddleback and author of the Purpose Driven Life.  A major portion of this
document is spent repudiating Christians involved in politics, and seeks to
replace the fight for life, marriage, and family issues, with a focus on
world hunger, AIDs in Africa, and environmental issues.   It also lashes out
at those who have the audacity to go into the public arena and take a stand
for Christ based on the Truth of God’s Word.  The document says evangelicals
have often expressed “truth without love,” helping create a backlash against
religion during a “generation of culture warring.”  The fact is, we have
been intimidated into silence by those who represent satan!

This is the mindset fostered by the “seeker,” “emerging church,” and “church
growth” crowd that for the past 15 years have watered down the Gospel and
set aside the absolutes of the Bible to attract warm bodies.  What they have
done is created a new subculture of “Christians” who might be saved, but
live no different than the world and easily embrace the lies of the false
religions, cults, and New Age teachings that are leading the souls of men to
hell.  This is why you have people like Oprah who claim to be a Christian,
yet promote the lies of every New Age guru that comes down the path.  This
is why you have people like Sen. Barak Hussein Obama who claims to be a
Christian, yet votes continually to slaughter babies and redefine God’s Holy
Institution of Marriage.  This is why you have Christians who think people
in a satanic cult like the Mormons will go to Heaven.  This is why you have
people who call themselves “Christians,” but deny that the Bible is the only
Truth there is!

Add to this the prominence of pastors who are little more than motivational
speakers like Robert Schuller and Joel Osteen who go into the secular media
when they want to sell their latest book, and brag bout never talking about
sin or the social issues of our day and refuse to answer the most simple
question of the faith, whether Jesus is the ONLY way to be saved or not.  So
people read their books, watch their TV programs to “feel good” and become
part of this new subculture of “Christians” who have no concept of basic
theology and embrace lies like “there are many roads that lead to God.

Don’t believe me?  Here is a typical email we get daily:  “I’m a
Metaphysical Christian and a Human being a child of GOD. I was baptized at
Saddleback Church with Rick Warren.  There is a very powerful wonderful
movement of consciousness going on right now obviously the old way is not
working very well. Watch a few Videos on Esther Hicks etc GOD bless you
too!”  What a load of garbage.  Metaphysical Christian???  The “old way” is
not working very well?  The old way being the Bible?  Ester Hicks is one of
the more popular New Age teachers out there today.  I wish you could see the
feed back I get daily from the Daily Devotional, from the TV program, from
my appearances on FOX News, CNN, and from the videos we post on YouTube.
People who call themselves “Christians,” yet reject the Bible as the only
Truth there is, and embrace beliefs that are in complete contradiction to
what the Bible teaches.

How did this happen?  It started with the church.  Forty years ago the
mainline denominations brought in pastors who were from liberal seminaries
and denied the inspiration and inerrancy of the Bible.  They quit preaching
the Gospel of Jesus Christ and opted for a social gospel instead.  At the
same time, you had this growing Christian subculture of Christian TV, radio,
and publishing, geared to and marketed to Christians.  Major ministries and
Christian organizations were birthed that generated tens of millions
annually, and for the most part did very little  but preach to the choir and
self perpetuate themselves from one year to the next.

Billions have been raised and squandered on the temporal things of this
world instead of on the work of God.  We have extracted ourselves from the
marketplace, and now not only have the better percentage of two full
generations who have never even been to church, but a new generation of
“Christians” who don’t believe the Bible is the inspired, inerrant Word of
God, representing Absolute Truth, and our final authority in all maters.  It
is no wonder our nation is in spiritual freefall and this world we live in
grows darker by the day.  Men of God in days gone by didn’t build great
organizations, they built up men and women to serve the Lord.  They only had
one book, the Bible, and one message, the Gospel of Jesus Christ.  They
never compromised the Truth of God’s Word and their only goal was to save
souls!

I love you and care about you so much.  While I agree with 90% of what is in
the “Evangelical Manifesto,” the other 10% makes it a document designed to
give more power and prominence to those in the Christian left,  replace
abortion, marriage, and family issues with issues like world hunger, poverty
and disease, and calls for Christians to be more friendly to non-Christians
by not talking about things like sin and hell in the public.  Just in case
you were wondering, they never contacted me about signing this document.
LOL!!!

I have been warning you for years now about this new and growing group who
make up the Christian left who are now fighting with the old guard on the
Christian right for power and to be the voice of Christians.  The Christian
left waters down the Gospel and lays aside the absolutes of the Bible in
order to attract warm bodies and advance their social agenda, while the
Christian right has been turned into little more than a very lucrative
business that generates hundreds of millions annually around various causes
and is more concerned with power and self preservation than getting actual
results.  This leaves Christians alone to deal with the hurts and pains of
every day life with a very thin foundation to their faith, while the vast
majority of people are living without hope and heading to hell when they
die.

However, there is a remnant, a faithful group of Believers who have not sold
out and whose sole goal is to serve the Lord and see God’s Kingdom advanced.
Praise God for those faithful pastors and ministries that only want to see
the work of the Gospel accomplished as they share the Truth of God’s Word
without compromise and labor to bring the lost to faith in Jesus Christ.
These are the last days my friend.  Jesus is coming at any moment.  There is
no time for playing games.  People are dying and heading to hell every
second.  The focus of all Believers in Jesus Christ has to be on bringing
lost souls to faith in our Lord.  We don’t need an “Evangelical Manifesto,”
we already have one and it is called THE BIBLE!!!

In His love and service,
Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller bkeller@liveprayer.com 

***ARE YOU 100% CERTAIN WHERE YOU WILL SPEND ETERNITY?  The fact is you will die one day.  At that moment, you will either spend eternity with the Lord or be cast into everlasting darkness forever separated from God your creator. To know for certain you will be forever with Jesus, go to:
http://www.liveprayer.com/bdy_salvatn.cfm

***I am excited to let you know that the Liveprayer Daily Devotional is now available via AUDIO each day.  Simply go to http://www.liveprayer.com/Audio.cfm Also, you can now listen to the Daily Devotional by phone by calling, 1-727-342-5673 or 1-845-510-2722.

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What If Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer, Paula White, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, And T.D. Jakes Were RACIST?

Posted by Job on April 10, 2008

And Pat Robertson, Robert Schuller, Oral Roberts, the Crouch family, Juanita Bynum, Creflo Dollar, Eddie Long, and whoever else you wanted to name? Take Paula White in particular, who has (or until very recently HAD) a predominantly black church in Tampa, Florida and has the #1 rated show on Black Entertainment Television. Suppose this women were to start preaching that I.Q. tests have proven blacks to be genetically less intelligent than whites (after a manner of “The Bell Curve”) and that black culture is inferior (after Dinesh D’Souza’s “The End of Racism). Suppose that she were to say that she supports the Confederate flag, that her ancestors were slaveowners and that she was proud of that fact, and that the nation was better off from segregation because it protected whites – especially women like her – from black crime, the inevitable product of lowered black IQ and of inferior black culture. And that our low IQs and inferior cultures are due to our being the cursed descendants of Ham/Canaan, and that America had tried to remove the effects of the curse with slavery, generous welfare and social spending, affirmative action, etc. but it is just impossible for man to undo what God has declared. And so on. Would her black parishioners leave (not to mention a good percentage of the white ones)? Would she remain on TBN and the other Christian broadcasting networks, to speak nothing of BET?

Of course not. So then, why are these same people so forgiving when it comes to pastors that commit adultery (and this includes GETTING DIVORCED AND REMARRYING, READ Matthew 19:9), who steal, cheat, lie, preach false doctrines, and violate so many other things that the Bible plainly says (including that women cannot preach!) on a regular basis? It is simple: worldliness. The world has declared racism to be one of the greatest and most unforgivable evils of human history. So the person that commits racism is not to be tolerated in any context. But disobey the Bible? Who cares! That person is still called by God and has a powerful ministry and anointing! Consider their fruits, all the people that they have gotten saved and their works of charity! Instead of tearing them down, causing division, and making the church look bad, pray and ask that God restore them! Touch not mine anointed and do my prophet no harm! And pull the beam out of your own eye before you pluck the mote out of Brother (or Sister) Pulpit Pimp, thus saith the sheeple! (I hate both terms, but that is what they are.)

Are you aware that one of the books in the Bible is named after a slave owner? Philemon is the name. Yet if a pastor owned slaves in this day and time, virtually no one would sit in his church. Yet at any given time you can find any number of convicted felons, sex perverts, and blaspheming heretics running their synagogues of Satan any which way they choose, and instead of saying “hey, this wickedness is just what the Bible warns against in Revelation 2 and 3 and in other places”, folks are much faster to “prophesy” against the people that actually care about what the Bible says. Well, if the followers of these preachers don’t care if their pastors obey the Bible, how on earth can they criticize the unsaved for not doing so? On what basis will the unsaved be condemned? You say “Well, the Bible says that believing in Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven.” You mean, the same Bible that you IGNORE when it says that Christianity is not for getting rich, and that we are to prefer the poor over the rich instead of the other way around? The same Bible that you IGNORE when it reveals the reality of Trinity? The same Bible that you IGNORE when it says that not everyone will speak in tongues, that “sign gifts” are not to be used as evidence of salvation, and that “slain in the spirit” is confusion to be banned from the church? Or that we are not to follow or fellowship with those who reject sound doctrine? And so on? If you are not going to judge YOURSELF by what the Bible says regarding those things, how can you use that same Bible to hold someone’s not accepting Jesus Christ over their heads?

For instance, Carlton Pearson’s congregation up and left when the fellow started advocating universalism. But what about all of the other false doctrines that this fellow from the Oral Roberts school of Word of Faith/prosperity/confusion was espousing? I suppose that is where such Christians draw the line. The notion that you can get to heaven without believing in Jesus Christ offends them, because they still want to be better than everybody else. They still want to be special. They want to be able to claim to be a peculiar people, blessed and highly favored, anointed, a royal priesthood, and all of those things for themselves, but not give them away to anybody else. But this is the issue: THEY DO NOT WANT TO OBEY THE BIBLE IN ORDER TO BE AND RECEIVE THOSE THINGS. So, these same people who beg for tolerance and forgiveness on behalf of their pastors and themselves for claiming to believe in Jesus Christ while not obeying Him are denying that same tolerance and forgiveness to everyone else. Ones such as those, people, are the real hypocrites, and the Bible itself says that people like that will be judged most harshly of all.

So if hearing that Eddie Long, Creflo Dollar, John Hagee, and Jamal – Harrison Bryant are no better than Ku Klux Klansmen offends you, well I am sorry, but it is still true. The folks who followed the Ku Klux Klan will get the same reward as the people who follow these false preachers on judgment day, and unless you turn aside from these wicked men and women and start seeking after God’s righteousness, all of you spiritual Klansmen will spend an eternity in the lake of fire together! Do not let the standards of the world determine what is acceptable for your pastor, for your church, or for you. Instead, allow the Bible to determine it. Rest assured, there is no excuse for not doing your level best to submit yourself to the standard of the Bible, or for following pastors and fellowshipping with others that refuse to.

Those who hear the shepherd (Jesus Christ) and follow His voice (the Bible) will be saved. All else are not His sheep will perish. But for a lot of you, it would be so much better were some tape of your favorite Pulpit Pimp railing against blacks (or whites), Jews, Asians, etc. were to be found to prove that these people were never called by God and are not following Him, since hearing these people all but come out and deny Jesus Christ with their very lips is not sufficient. Oh but that it were that simple, but it appears that for a lot of you it is precisely that sort of thing that it will take, because for you the Bible itself is just not good enough. The Three Step Salvation Plan

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Want A List Of Pastors Who Took Sun Myung Moon’s Money?

Posted by Job on November 11, 2007

cuttingedge.org/NEWS/n1818.cfm

Some of these folks appear to have been aligned with his right wing political groups only. Others, though, used his money to pay off debts and support their ministries. Others still are very heavily involved with the guy.

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Robert Schuller Is A 33 Degree Mason And More James Dobson Ties To Mormonism!

Posted by Job on November 11, 2007

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DAILY DEVOTIONAL FRIDAY NOVEMBER 2, 2007
(Romans 16:17, ! Corinthians 5:6-8, 2 Corinthians 6:14-18, Ephesians 5:11)

“Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and
wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?”
2 Corinthians 6:14

The danger of Robert Schuller’s upcoming “Rethink Conference.” Before you
do anything today, you need to get out your Bible and read each of the
anchor verses: Romans 16:17, ! Corinthians 5:6-8, 2 Corinthians 6:14-18,
Ephesians 5:11. I am constantly amazed at Christian leaders who align
themselves with men and women who do NOT know Christ as their Savior, reject
the Bible as the only Truth there is, and embrace the false gods and lies of
this world. The Bible has much to say about our relationships and those
people we align ourselves with. We can never forget that as a man or woman
of God, we are His ambassadors and the ones who have been called to carry
His light and Truth to this dark and fallen world we live in.

This is even a greater issue for those God has called to lead His people
since they will be judged more harshly. Why do these men of God insist on
being part of unholy alliances that require the absolutes of His Word to be
compromised and the Gospel to be watered down? I hear all the time the
excuse that this is what it takes to get things done in a world that rejects
Biblical Truth and Jesus Christ, but I call that a lie from the pits of hell
itself. Paul dealt with the kings and princes of his day. He spoke to the
business leaders and people in the cities he traveled to.

PAUL NEVER COMPROMISED GOD’S TRUTH OR WATERED DOWN THE GOSPEL! PAUL NEVER
FAILED TO TELL MEN THERE IS ONLY ONE NAME BY WHICH MEN ARE SAVED, THE NAME
OF JESUS! But than again, Paul wasn’t looking for earthly fame or fortune,
only to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ and see men saved!!!

I’ll never forget when I was researching the Unification cult founded by
Rev. Moon for a Devotional I wrote on that cult years ago. To my HORROR, I
read the names of many key Christian leaders Moon bought off in order to
gain mainstream credibility. Read it for yourselves, and trust me, I don’t
believe many of the things on this website, but I did hundreds of hours of
due diligence to verify that each of these men did have a relationship with
Moon as described! ( http://www.cuttingedge.org/NEWS/n1818.cfm ) You
want to know something very interesting, on this list are many of the same
men who are now backing the member of a satanic cult, Mitt Romney, for
President!!!

I come under attack often for hammering people like Osteen for going on
national TV and never uttering the name of Jesus, or telling people their
only real hope is not in his latest book but in a relationship with Christ,
or telling people they will die and go to hell without Jesus. I get
hammered for calling out my friend Paula White for going on TV and refusing
to admit she is even a Christian, but a “life coach.” I get hammered for
holding accountable Dr. Dobson for being part of the World Congress of
Families that was started and funded by the Mormon cult and has many groups
involved who deny the Bible and Christ.

I get hammered for calling men like Jay Sekulow, Ralph Reed, Mark DeMoss,
Bob Jones III, and others Judases for backing satanic cult member Mitt
Romney for President, worrying more about whatever short term benefits they
gain from their support than the souls of men who will burn in hell for all
eternity if Romney gets elected. So I am sure I will get hammered for this
Devotional today. But this is critical since we are talking about men who
have great followings, and people need to be warned about men who have sold
out the faith!

It is bad enough we have to battle the false religions and cults of the
world, the atheists, and other agents of satan for the souls of men. Sadly,
some of those who do the most damage for the cause of Christ are the ones
who people look up to as “leaders,” who are more worried about building
their kingdom than God’s, more worried about the temporal goals of this
world than the eternal goals of Heaven, more worried about pleasing men than
pleasing God, more concerned about their agenda than God’s agenda, men who
are more concerned with the feelings of the Godless people who fill their
coffers than the eternal souls of the men they have been called to reach for
Christ!!!

ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS WE HAVE IN THE CHURCH TODAY ARE MEN AND WOMEN
WHO GOD HAS CALLED TO LEAD THE PEOPLE, WHO HAVE SOLD OUT GOD AND HIS TRUTH
FOR THIS WORLD!!! NOW MORE THAN EVER, AS WE ARE IN THE LAST DAYS, GOD NEEDS
MEN AND WOMEN OF GOD WHO WILL NOT COMPROMISE HIS TRUTH, NOT WATER DOWN THE
GOSPEL, NOT WAVER UNDER THE TEMPTATIONS OF THIS JOURNEY THROUGH LIFE, BUT
HOLD FIRM AND DECLARE TO THIS LOST AND DYING GENERATION THAT GOD’S TRUTH IS
THE ONLY TRUTH AND JESUS IS THE ONLY HOPE FOR MEN NOW AND FOR ALL
ETERNITY!!!

This is nothing new. Paul dealt with it and warned us about this type of
compromise throughout his letters to the churches. In Revelation we read
about the 7 churches and their compromise. I always think back to that
powerful passage of Scripture in Acts 7 as Stephen is boldly declaring the
Gospel to the religious leaders who were so upset with him for telling the
truth that they took him to the edge of the city and stoned him to death.
Please don’t miss this. These weren’t atheists, or heathen, or Jesus
haters, these were the RELIGIOUS LEADERS OF THE DAY! Remember who was
holding their coats as they carried out this act of murder? SAUL OF TARSUS
WHO WOULD SOON BECOME PAUL!!!

I have always had a check in my Spirit about Schuller. First, he is a 33
degree Mason. What else really has to be said after realizing this man is
part of the Masonic cult? He has always had an association with New Age
icons like
Rethink Conference and Neale Donald Walsch, acutally featuring men
like this on his TV program and promoting their Godless books to his
audience. His mentor of course was Norman Vincent Peale, another 33 degree
Mason who was an absolute heretic and taught philosophies in complete
rebellion to the Truth of the Bible.

So it is no surprise that he is the host of this “Rethink Conference” in
January of next year. The purpose of this conference is very vague. But
among the featured speakers are Larry King, Ben Stein, George Foreman, and
Rupert Murdoch. Somehow I don’t expect an altar call is coming from any of
these men. There is also an impressive list of Christian speakers like
Chuck Colson, Bishop Charles Blake, Gary Smalley, Lee Strobel, and others.
Unless it is to simply get paid, why would these men of God be a part of
this circus?

I guess my question for Schuller and the others who will attend is what is
there to rethink? The Gospel? The Bible? Or is this a time to figure out
how to do a better job of compromising the Absolutes of the Bible to
accommodate a non-believing world. Is it a time to figure out how to water
down the Gospel so people won’t be offended? My guess it will be a time to
do all of this plus fill the pockets of Schuller and those who will be
coming to his pulpit to lead people away from God, His Truth, and faith in
Jesus Christ. I have no doubt satan will be cheering on this group each
moment!

I love you and care about you so much. I already know I will lose donors
and subscribers today. That is OK. In the end, it is not a donor or
subscriber I have to answer to, it is God. Listen to me my friend, a man or
woman of God only has one things, their integrity. Once you lose that, you
have nothing left. Who you associate with, who you allow in your life IS
IMPORTANT! A reporter recently asked me what I would do if the Mormon
church sent me a donation for $1 million. I told them I would cash it and
use that money to declare even louder to this world that Mormonism is a cult
that is leading the souls of men to hell. If they wanted to help fund
Liveprayer to lead men away from the lies of Joey Smith and to faith in
Jesus Christ, I’ll take all of their money they want to give me.

A MAN OR WOMAN OF GOD CANNOT BE BOUGHT! OTHERWISE, THEY ARE NO DIFFERENT
THAN JUDAS!

My counsel to you this morning is this. Be aware of who your pastor or
those ministers you follow are associated with. Be aware if they are
preaching more from books other than the Bible. Have great concern if they
don’t end every message or service with an invitation to know Jesus. LINE
UP ALL THEY ARE SAYING WITH GOD’S WORD!!!! There is only one Truth my
friend, and that is what God gave us in the Bible. There is only ONE
GOSPEL, the Gospel of Jesus Christ. There is no way to trick people into
salvation or for someone to get saved by accident. At some point a person
has to accept the responsibility that they are a sinner and have a conscious
desire to ask God to forgive them of their sins, repent, and give their
heart and life to Jesus by faith.

I hate to break this to Dr. Schuller, but his “Rethink Conference” is a very
stupid idea unless it is simply to make everyone who is part of it a nice
chunk of change. There is nothing to rethink. The Word of God is
immutable, it never changes. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is so simple a 3rd
grader can understand it. What Dr. Schuller should be rethinking, is why he
is part of the satanic Masonic cult, why he endorses New Age philosophers,
why he is going to allow men who deny the Bible as Truth and Jesus as Lord
to stand in his pulpit, and why after all of these years on TV he has never
once looked into the cameras and told people that they are a sinner, that
they will die and go to hell without Jesus, and their only hope is to get on
their knees and ask Jesus to forgive them of their sins and invite Him into
their heart and life by faith.

In His love and service,
Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller

If I can help you in any way you can contact me through my personal email at:
bkeller@liveprayer.com

***ARE YOU 100% CERTAIN WHERE YOU WILL SPEND ETERNITY? The fact is you will
die one day. At that moment, you will either spend eternity with the Lord or
be cast into everlasting darkness forever separated from God your creator.
To know for certain you will be forever with Jesus, go to:
http://www.liveprayer.com/bdy_salvatn.cfm

***I am excited to let you know that the Liveprayer Daily Devotional is now
available via AUDIO each day. Simply go to http://www.liveprayer.com/Audio.cfm
Also, you can now listen to the Daily Devotional by phone by calling, 1-727-342-5673
(C) Copyright 2007, Bill Keller Ministries. All rights reserved.

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Focus on the Family Yokes with Heretic Robert Schuller

Posted by Job on October 28, 2007

Another goodie from Slice of Laodicea:

Focus on the Family Yokes with Heretic Schuller

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TD JAKES HAS A GAY SON!

Posted by Job on October 23, 2007

Update: please see Does Running A Biblical Church Require Five Point Calvinism? and comment.

Gay Christian Movement Watch has it!

TD Jakes repositioning with Dr. Phil?

Some believe this is because one of his twin sons is gay. The young man was spotted at a black gay club in Atlanta during the popular 2006 MegaFest. One of the more recurrent search questions bringing people to GCM Watch is “TD Jakes’ gay son”, so there is considerable talk already out there. Reportedly, the young man has already told his father he is gay.”

What does this have to do with Jakes? After all, he is NOT responsible for the behavior of his son. I would NEVER claim this to be the case OR use this as something to attack Jakes. We ALL have to stand before God in judgment OURSELVES AS INDIVIDUALS, and the very fact that I have to answer to God one day for everything that I say and do is precisely why I would NEVER resort to such a cheap trick, let alone to spreading rumors or gossip which the Bible also explicitly calls sin. But where this DOES condemn Jakes is the shift in his ministry towards acceptance of homosexuality, and that includes interviewing the protege’ of the New Age witch Dr. Phil, who teaches that homosexuality is inherited, on his show and, according to Gay Christian Movement Watch, endorsing Dr. Phil’s opinions on TD Jakes own weblog: see his weblog entry. This direction has “earned” Jakes his own section on gay Christian movement watch: gcmwatch.wordpress.com/category/bishop-t-d-jakes. Now I first read about Jakes’ moving to the pro – homosexual side from the now regrettably banned Youtube user Ephesians511, but his increasing refusal to condemn homosexuality, his claiming that “God did not tell us how to deal with AIDS” on Nightline, and now his alignment with the “sodomy is biology” gay rights crowd confirms it!

Listen folks, this is no game. Jesus Christ is coming back, and this world is going to be judged and destroyed by fire. You folks that continue to defend these apostates (again, both Jakes and Robert Schuller have had heretic Dr. Phil on AT MINIMUM) are going to be counted like unto them and be destroyed in the lake of fire right along with them!

Update: Brother IndependentConservative goes even further than I do! So this makes me feel better about my thoughts that I MIGHT be doing something wrong by making this post.

  1. IndependentConservative Says:
    October 23rd, 2007 at 11:48 pm eHealtheland – Jakes son being a homosexual DOES have to do with Jakes directly and it DOES impact Jakes position in the church directly. Consider Gods guidelines given to man for church leaders, in particular:
    Titus 1:5-6 (King James Version)

    5 For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:

    6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.

    This matters because TD Jakes has assumed a position of church leadership. This DISQUALIFIES HIM! His children are not faithful believers, one has been accused of unruly behavior. Homosexuality is an abomination and all the abominations noted in Leviticus 18 are still very much abominations before God. Sure all sin is sin, but not all sins are abominations.

    He has failed to rule his house well as noted in:
    1 Timothy 3:4-5 (King James Version)

    4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;

    5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

    And God gave these instructions for obvious reasons. Put up a man who has gay children and you’ll never get a leader who stands firm against behavior that is an abomination.

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  3. IndependentConservative Says:
    October 24th, 2007 at 9:35 am eHealtheland said:

    IndependentConservative: What of Samuel’s sons who turned against the faith? That was not held against Samuel. Please recall that God did not judge Eli because his sons were evil, but rather because “Eli restrained them not.”

    I’m not saying Jakes will go to hell because of the sins of his children, certainly not. Jakes will go the hell for his on sins. TD Jakes has taken the heresy noted in Acts 8:20 to levels beyond even what Simon attempted.

    Let’s keep in mind, my assertion is about QUALIFICATIONS FOR CHURCH LEADERSHIP. Not Old Covenant prophet status. 1 Timothy 3 was written for the church, not for Hosea. God told Hosea to marry a harlot because of the sins of Israel and even then that was not the standard. God told THE CHURCH to pick men who are blameless, of one wife, with children who are believers, not found engaging in unruly behavior. And certainly our yolk is easier and the burden lighter than the Mosaic law of the old covenant, although in many ways the law of grace and liberty is of a higher standard than Mosaic law, because we now must adhere to the highest order of love through Christ. We are not given an exception in 1 Timothy 3 for men who fail to rule their own house well and fail to have a family in subjection, because the man decided to marry a harlot or because the children are homosexual. And holding to this is far easier than what others had to hold to before Christ. If the man’s house is out of order because his wife is slutting around or his children are gay, HE’S DISQUALIFIED TO LEAD SAINTS TODAY. Jakes is viewed as a church leader on the NON-BIBLICAL standard of man, which is, “but he sounds good and look at all the people he draws in”

    The bottom line is this, either we uphold the standard God proclaimed through Christ via the Holy Spirit, as written by the hand of Paul or we don’t. If we uphold the standard, this alone disqualifies Jakes for church leadership, but we know there’s so much more.

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Fox News Asks Whether Virginia Tech Shooter Cho Seung-Hui Was Demon Possessed

Posted by Job on April 19, 2007

See this link. The article was WAY TOO SHORT, but other than that one cannot find any problems with it. Fox News gave first crack to the fundamentalist/charismatic Christian camp, which was represented (somewhat regrettably) Dr. Richard Roberts, who, like me yesterday screamed “YES!” Why do I say “regrettably”? Because there were better people that they could have picked (i.e. Frank Peretti) to represent the branch of Christianity that believes in spiritual warfare. Why do I say “somewhat?” Because, well, there are also much much worse. Next, the article spoke to a rabbinic Jew, who claimed not to believe in spiritual evil, but only man’s evil. Which, of course, denies all of the references to evil spirits in the Old Testament and in Jewish written and oral tradition before Yeshua HaMashiach came into the world, including the specific Messianic prophecy (that appears only in Jewish tradition and is not in the Christian Bible) that the Moshiach would be able to cast demons out of mute people. Before the Moshiach, rabbis were able to cast demons out only if they were able to force the demon to speak through the person and tell its name, allowing the rabbi to address the demon by name to tell it to leave. Yeshua HaMashiach was not only able to cast demons out while not suffering them to speak, but cast demons out of those who could not speak. Of course, their ability to do this was based on the power that God have to natural Israel under the Old Covenant. Once the Old Covenant was fulfilled in Yeshua HaMashiach’s birth, life, death, resurrection, and ascension, they would have had to have accept Yeshua HaMashiach as their Messiah, Lord, and God not only to gain the increased power of the New Covenant by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, but also to prevent from losing the power that they had under the Old Covenant. So, since their faithlessness and rebellion caused them to lose the ability to deal with evil spirits that Christians now demonstrated, they had to revise their religious teachings to deny the existence of spiritual evil altogether. (I feel that it is important to point out that not all rabbinic Jews deny evil spirits … Rabbi Peter Rubenstein practices Reform Judaism which does not hold scripture to be inerrant, literally true, or final authority, making them no different from similar Christians who do not believe in them either.) Next they give time to the views of an atheist, no need for much comment there other than they were able to find one who “appreciates how religion first understood evil and created rules to combat it.” While that may warm the heart of certain worldly legalism – loving “religious right” Christians, hopefully true fundamentalists will cringe at his viewing Christianity as morals, values, rules, etc. rather than a spiritual personal relationship through faith.

Finally the article got to good old Robert Schuller, the leader of inoffensive nonthreatening Purpose Driven Power of Positive Thinking Contemplative New Age seeker driven man centered “Christianity.” His response: even if Satan (or more accurately evil spirits) WERE a cause or a contributing factor, “I am not going to give them credit for it.” That’s right Reverend. Deny spiritual truth from the Word of God – and spiritual truth that you yourself acknowledge is very likely true – just because it makes people feel better. It isn’t about equipping people for battle against these spirits to try to stand against these horrors and the worse to come. It isn’t about helping your members deal with the divorces, abortions, low self – esteem, false burdens, gossiping, lying, homosexuality, pornography/alcohol/gambling addictions, etc. that are reaching epidemic proportions in the church: about telling them that do not worry, they are still saved, they should not accept guilt/shame/condemnation but instead have faith in the power of God’s Love and Grace to expose and deliver them from demonic oppression. No, it is all about reassuring the people. Filling them with “positive good feelings.” Helping them to paper over and repress their legitimate emotions over a culture, nation, and world spiraling out of control in so many ways with homilies and platitudes.

It would have been interesting to see what the mainstream and liberal denominations would have had to say about demonic possession in the Cho Seung-Hui case and similar, but hey, we will take what we can get in the major media on this topic, and that means accepting Richard Roberts’ advocating our side too.

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