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Well This Ends Any Desire On My Part To Advocate For The Palestinians

Posted by Job on June 14, 2009

In large part because of my finding out the truth about Zionism, the modern Jewish religion, and the dishonesty of many prominent premillennial dispensational political activists who knowingly deceive Christians about both, I had begun sympathizing on some level with the plight of the Palestinian people (in contrast with their leaders, Hamas and the PLO) for the sake of the gospel, for humanitarian reasons, and also out of a desire to provide what I felt was a much – needed counter to the “Judeo – Christianity” propaganda deception of the Zionists and the dispensationalists, which unfortunately has deceived a great many decent Christians and Jews. After the events of today, I am washing my hands of both sides of the Israeli – Palestinian conflict and am going to simply pray and wait for God to sort it out.

Today Binyamin Netanyahu, a fellow that I thoroughly dislike for reasons that I will not enumerate, made a fair offer to the Palestinians: a state that would be sovereign in every respect save a lack of a military in return for a cessation of hostilities, allowing Jerusalem to remain in Israeli hands, and the 4.5 million Palestinian refugees having to settle in the new Palestinian state as opposed to Israel. Now long term, these conditions are unacceptable: a state without a military is no state at all, and issues regarding east Jerusalem and Palestinians driven from their homes would still have to be worked out.

But this agreement would be outstanding as an intermediate step. It would give the millions of Palestinians now living in tents, refugee camps, or in other countries a place to go, and they would be immediately supported by hundreds of billions in foreign aid. Also, any Palestinian with a sense of irony ought to be able to appreciate the perverse pleasure at seeing the very same Israeli military and police that for decades bombed their neighborhoods and subjected them to checkpoints be FORCED to protect and defend PALESTINIANS while the PALESTINIANS use MONEY FROM ISRAEL AND ITS WESTERN ALLIES to build homes and businesses! Where now the Israeli military protects Jewish settlers in Palestinian territory, the military would be responsible for A) evicting those Jewish settlers and B) defending the Palestinians who move into the homes of very Jews that the Israeli military evicted! The plight and living standards of the millions of Palestinians would instantly be raised, and the Palestinians would have years, decades even, to work on getting still more concessions from Israel.

But alas, it appears that the Palestinians lack any sense of or appreciation for irony. The Palestinian leadership does not care about helping the Palestinian people out of misery, and the Palestinian people does not care about getting out of misery, about going from dirty tents to clean modern homes and apartments paid for with billions in international welfare. They don’t care about moving from having to deal with Israeli bombs, tanks, and police to having complete freedom. No, all they care about is destroying Israel and killing Jews, and are willing to live in poverty and squalor waiting for the chance.

So, Mahmoud Abbas, whom both the Obama AND Bush administrations claim is the “moderate, pro – western respectable peace partner”, rejected Netanyahu’s offer. Abbas rejected Israel’s desire to continue to exist as a Jewish state. (Realize that during the Clinton administration, the PLO pretended to recognize Israel’s right ot exist. We now know that they were lying and have been for the past 10 years.) Abbas claimed not only east Jerusalem but ALL OF JERUSALEM as the capital of the Palestinian state. After years of not even trying to stop terror attacks on Israel’s military and citizens, Abbas rejected Israel’s demand that they be demilitarized. And amazingly, Abbas insists on the millions of Palestinian refugees being allowed to return to Israel if they so choose, despite the existence of TWO “PALESTINIAN” STATES, PALESTINE AND JORDAN, for these “refugees” to live in while receiving new homes and unlimited welfare FOR LIFE!

Now prior to today, Abbas claimed that Netanyahu was destroying the peace process for refusing to commit to a two state solution and stated that violence would result. Now that Netanyahu has committed to a two state solution, guess what? Abbas claims that Netanyahu was destroying the peace process by refusing to allow the PLO/Fatah to bombard Israel’s airport, cities, factories, apartments with rockets and grenades, for refusing to turn all of Jerusalem over to Palestine, and for refusing to allow Israel to be flooded with Palestinians who oppose the existence of Israel!

And yes, Abbas sent the message to the Palestinians to start up a new round of murderous violence against the Jews. Of course, the last round of violence didn’t end because of the Palestinians’ commitment to peace. It only ended because of A) the internal power struggle between Hamas and the PLO and B) because of the security fence. Palestinians have complained for years over how horrible the security fence makes life for Palestinians. Now, in rejecting a chance to be free and on welfare without the worry of having to defend or provide for themselves for the next 50 years, we know that the real reason for opposing the security fence wasn’t the humanitarian effects on the Palestinians, but rather the fence’s successfully stopping Palestinians from getting into Israel to blow up Jewish toddlers.

So why do I not blame the Palestinian leadership while continuing to support the Palestinian people? Simple: the Palestinian people elected these leaders, they refuse to rise up to oppose these leaders, and they generally obey them. If these people wanted an end to the poverty, disenfranchisement and violence, they should be out on the streets demonstrating “take the deal!” Instead, as always, they will obey the PLO/Fatah and Hamas and take to the streets to be mowed down by Israeli airplanes and tanks, and allow their homes, schools, mosques and hospitals to be used as human shields. These people want to see the destruction of Israel and dead Jews more than they want to provide safety, freedom and prosperity to their own children.

It is obvious that the Palestinians do not need more advocates for their political, economic, or humanitarian agenda and plight, for it is now obvious that this agenda is only to destroy Israel and kill Jews, and their plight is due to their single minded devotion towards that goal rather than working to improve their own lives. No, what the Palestinians need – and what the Jews need for that matter – is the gospel of Jesus Christ. Christian interaction with Palestinians and Jews should be limited to the gospel. Beyond that, we should leave these people to their own affairs and pray for the return of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

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New World Order Alert: Is The Vatican Going To Team Up With Israel Over Jerusalem?

Posted by Job on May 12, 2009

For those who are not familiar with Caroline Glick, she is very neoconservative and very Zionist. Here, she is stating that Israel should cease working with America and start pursuing a mutually beneficial relationship with Egypt (over Iran) and the Vatican (over Jerusalem). First Egypt: Iran sponsors the Muslim Brotherhood, which is a threat to Egypt’s fragile regime, which will become even more so once Egypt’s aging ruler leaves power. Egypt wishes to reduce Iran’s influence in order to make sure that the nation does not fall into the hands of jihadists. Second the Vatican: Glick asserts that the Vatican could be convinced that the only way to protect “Christian holy sites” in Israel and specifically in Jerusalem is to ensure that they remain in Jewish control and out of Muslim hands.

Now Glick has come out and stated that she opposes the establishment of a Palestinian state for at least two generations, and that during this time Israel should impose heavy measures to keep the Palestinian population subdued, and also take control of Palestinian schools and brainwash – excuse me educate – Palestinian children into hating everything Muslim and Arabic and turn them into pro – western Zionists. After this point, the Palestinians would either willingly desire to be ruled by Israel under terms that benefit Israel and stop demanding a state, or would accept a state that would be Israel’s puppet. In other words, Glick is willing to come out and publicly state what Israel’s neoconservative secular Zionists are usually unwilling to. (This is as opposed to Israel’s paleoconservative and/or religious Zionists, who openly or covertly simply wish to drive the Palestinians out of Israel.)

However, Glick is signaling that she – and the faction that she represents – may be willing to change their tune and give the Palestinians a state much sooner if the Vatican throws its considerable political muscle behind keeping all of Jerusalem in Israeli hands, and speaking out against Palestinian terrorism (which groups ranging from the secular and religious left to conservative Catholics to some Reformed Protestants are willing to pretend does not exist).

Now the majority of Palestinians and Israelis have long favored a two state solution. A dirty little secret is that elements in both the Palestinian and Israeli leadership claim to want a two state solution publicly while working to undermine it behind the scenes. If the Vatican is able to pick off the neoconservative secular Zionists like Glick, Benjamin Netanyahu, and Avidgor Lieberman, that would create a coalition with the moderate and liberal Israelis that would be big and powerful enough on the Israeli side to get it done. The only barrier, however, would be the Palestinians’ putting together a viable government that supports a two state solution and peace. We know that this isn’t Fatah/PLO, and it certainly isn’t Hamas. But it is something that bears watching.

The Vatican joining hands with neconservative Zionist Israelis is just about the last thing that I could have ever imagined happening, but it suits the interests of both sides. By supporting Israel, the Roman Catholic Church helps get past its role in the Holocaust, which badly hurts its image and ability to recruit and retain members in Europe. This will become a particular issue in the next few years when the Vatican elevates Pius XII, the pope who was in charge during the Holocaust to “sainthood.” And the Obama administration’s turning America’s interests in the Middle East away from Israel and towards Iran and Syria – and many believe that this could be a permanent change of policy that will persist no matter which party controls Washington – gives Israel no choice but to seek a new powerful ally. As the EU and Russia have been overtly anti-Israel for some time, it is basically the Vatican or nobody. 

Now as to the Christian Zionist element … I suppose that they will fall in line over this. Ever since the time of Billy Graham and particularly the rise of the religious right, evangelicals, especially dispensationalists, have not only become very friendly with the Vatican, but have actually followed its lead, sometimes knowing it but often not. Dispensationalists have taken school vouchers, faith – based programs, and other initiatives to funnel tax dollars into Roman Catholic dioceses as if it is their own agenda, and also got involved in the Terri Schiavo incident (one completely driven by the Roman Catholic governor of Florida Jeb Bush) and in the process of doing so advocated for the extrabiblical Roman Catholic traditional teachings on end of life issues. And how many Protestant evangelicals love having Scalia, Alito, Thomas and Roberts on the Supreme Court (Kennedy not so much)? And let us be honest: the neoconservative publicity machine, whether it is magazines like the Weekly Standard and the National Review and talk radio … they aren’t dominated by evangelicals. They are dominated by Roman Catholics and neoconservative Jews. Conservative Christian Zionists such as the ones who support torture patronize that media and allow their political AND RELIGIOUS views to be shaped by them. So, if the Vatican and the secular neoconservative Jews (the religious Jews by and large won’t have anything to do with Christians) begin the full court press on talk radio and on the conservative websites that keeping Jerusalem and making Israel secure so the construction of the third temple can take place is all that REALLY MATTERS, then the John Hagee/Pat Robertson contingent (and the many far more respectable and mainstream fellow travelers of this doctrine i.e. those who supported the war in Iraq) will quickly fall in line.

But again, the major shoe that needs to drop for this to actually take place is a viable and (by all appearances) pro – peace Palestinian government led by a (and this would really really help) a charismatic leader to come about. Now that may be Obama’s job: to identify and train such a leader and put him in power (as our government has been known to do in the past … America trained both Usama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein and put them in place, and did similar with the group that is now running Iran). 

Please see link to article where this gets discussed below:

Our World: Opportunity is knocking at Israel’s door

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Egypt to sign nuclear pact with Russia

Posted by Job on March 24, 2008

Egypt to sign nuclear pact with Russia – Worthy News

Russia and Egypt are expected to sign a civilian nuclear cooperation agreement this week that will boost Cairo’s efforts to join a string of Sunni countries keen on developing nuclear potential and that government officials in Jerusalem believe is intended in part to offset Iran’s nuclear program.Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak traveled to Moscow for a two-day visit Monday, and the Russian wire service RIA Novosti quoted Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit as saying that the agreement would be signed during the visit.

The news service quoted Gheit as saying, “This agreement will enable Egypt to use Russia’s extensive experience in the peaceful use of nuclear energy.” According to the report, a source in Egypt’s Electricity and Energy Ministry said earlier that the document would lay the foundation for nuclear energy cooperation between Egypt and Russia and would strengthen relations between Russian companies and Egypt. However, the report said, the agreement would not automatically mean that Russian companies would build nuclear power plants in Egypt.

“Companies will be selected at an international tender to be announced by the Egyptian government at the end of the year,” the source was quoted as saying.

An Israeli government source said Jerusalem would have no public or formal comment on the deal, and that in principle Israel had no objection to Egypt’s acquiring nuclear technology as long as Egypt was a member of the Non-Proliferation Treaty, which it is, and as long as it would be under ironclad supervision and regulations of the International Atomic Energy Agency.

Israel, the official said, could not object to another country’s wanting nuclear energy, as long as it was under tight regulation and supervision.

Egypt currently has two small research reactors.

According to a report by the German news service DPA, the Egyptian independent daily Al-Masri al-Youmquoted an Egyptian source as saying last week that the US was opposed to a potential nuclear cooperation deal between Moscow and Cairo.

The DPA report said US Secretary of Energy Samuel Bodman, during a visit to Cairo in January, discussed Egypt’s joining the Global Nuclear Energy Partnership (GNEP), a program whereby the US seeks to work with other countries to reprocess spent nuclear fuel for peaceful uses.

Israel’s low-key response on Monday was similar to its response last October when Mubarak announced a plan to build several nuclear power plants, a move that was heralded at the time in the Egyptian press as a major national project.

Israel also refrained from issuing a response when French President Nicolas Sarkozy went to Morocco in October and pledged that France would help that country build a civil nuclear energy industry, or when Yemen signed an agreement in September with a US company to build nuclear plants over the next 10 years.

Indeed, over the last year, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Oman, Kuwait, the UAE, Yemen, Morocco, Libya, Jordan and Egypt have indicated an interest in developing nuclear programs, with Israeli officials saying that if these countries did not want the programs now for nuclear capabilities, they wanted the technology in place to keep “other options open” if Iran developed a bomb.

Israel, though monitoring the developments, has been careful not to take a public stand, partly because as one of the few countries in the world that has not signed the NPT, Jerusalem is not keen on lobbying against nuclear know-how for peaceful needs going to countries that are willing to sign the treaty, something that would focus the limelight on its own unique situation.

In a related development, meanwhile, Turkey on Monday asked for bids on the construction of its first nuclear power plant at the Mediterranean port city of Mersin, a government agency said.

Bids would be accepted until September 24, Turkey’s electricity agency said in a written announcement. The government would guarantee that it would buy all the electricity produced by the nuclear plant.

Turkey has experienced frequent cuts this winter of its natural gas supplies from Iran and Azerbaijan.

Power plants fueled by natural gas produce nearly half of Turkey’s electricity output. Turkey, a NATO member, imports most of its natural gas from Russia and Iran.

Nuclear power is one of the best options Turkey has, Energy Minister Hilmi Guler has said.

Guler said nuclear power should supply 20 percent of Turkey’s energy needs within the next two decades, allowing the country to decrease its reliance on imported gas.

Another spot on the Black Sea coast – Inceburun, in Sinop province – is planned for a second nuclear plant.

AP contributed to this report.

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Moshe Laurie: George Bush Sold Israel Out To Saudi Arabia Over Oil!

Posted by Job on January 16, 2008

Welcome my fellow warriors. If you have wondered why I have taken so long between these messages, I have been waiting patiently to see what the Lord would do and how he would allow the completed event that has happened – this terrible event, that is going to effect the United States absolutely negatively. We need to stand together to pray. 

 

Our President, a man that I had supported for many, many years and had high respect for, has
basically allowed himself and the government of the United States to abandon Israel. After the war between Israel and Lebanon, where the Lebanon terrorists kidnapped soldiers and killed them, Israel went back in and fought the first politically led war in the history of the nation. The US
President ordered a re-evaluation of the military co-operation pact between Israel and the United States. The decision was that Israel was no longer a viable military partner because of the
government that was in control in Israel.

 

Right after that, Israel and Jordan realized that they were basically on their own. For those of you that do not have the knowledge of this, America had been, and probably still is if they’ve not moved it away, storing large amounts of military equipment ready for combat in the Mideast. Israel and
America were part of a joint missile command for the defense of that area and Israel had been in co-operation with America on weapons platform development. But Israel is now considered a second-class citizen so the President, Condolezza Rice and other members of the government, have decided that America is going to make “new” friends.

 

I, along with any who have listened to his speeches, have heard President Bush publicly call Israel
aggressors and occupiers, saying that Israel must submit. The President of the United States and
his minions are forcing Israel – that is, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert –to do things that are detrimental to Israel and could cause its utter destruction if we are not careful. Now, having said that, I want to tell you that I believe this is all part of prophecy. It is not the government in general of Israel that is agreeing to this but Prime Minister Olmert, who is a total traitor. He is absolutely working against the good of the nation itself in order to retain his political position. What his motivation is
spiritually, we don’t know but I tell you, his actions are disastrous because he talks with “two faces.”

 

For example, the demand was made that Israel should stop expanding it’s neighborhoods in
Jerusalem – we’re not even talking about what they call the ‘held area.” Yet, the Prime Minister said, “No, I’ll stop building outside of the borders but not inside of the borders.” Then he turns around, and this is what you do not hear, and notifies the building licensing authority and the ministry of housing that all permits, even those already approved, must be sent to him for re-approval- which he will not do.  So, he is saying with one mouth that he will build and yet he has
prevented the building from taking place.  I can only tell you all, now, that we must stand in prayer and in action. We must flood the United States Government with our displeasure at the fact that the United States thinks they may dictate the safety and well being of another country.

 

Israel cannot survive in pre-’67 borders. It is being pushed into indefensible borders at the same time that the United States is selling out and arming its enemies. Let me give you another ‘for instance.’ This happened yesterday and the day before. Our gas prices jumped up to almost $100 a
barrel crude, based on speculation. Bush goes to Saudi Arabia.  Saudi Arabia has OPEC announce that if necessary they will increase production. It scares the heck out of the speculators that the price of gas, at least where I am, goes down sixteen cents a gallon in one day. And I promise you that the only thing that the President could promise Saudi Arabia would be Israel and a few hundred million dollars worth of arms, including the JDAM precision guided missile (Joint Direct Attack Munitions).

 

For those who may not know, the JDAM missile is an active guided targeted missile which could cut the technological superiority of Israel.  Israel has 6 million and they hundreds of millions, having the
technological edge is necessary for Israel’s survival. Now the US has gotten new allies while they are abandoning Israel. I call upon all of you to show your displeasure with what is going on with the government, to speak loudly in your newspapers, e-mails, congressmen and senators. J
ust talk to everyday people that do not understand that Israel is being dictated into destruction. Again, all these events are Biblical.

 

This is a long but necessary missive that I am sending you.  I’ve waited all these months to see the complete picture – that President Bush has totally sold out our nation of Israel – ‘our’ being both myself as Messianic Jewish and you, all believers, Messianic believers in the Messiah and His coming. We need to stand for the right of our Lord, our Messiah and our nation. I know intercessors who, when they heard these facts, began to cry because they understood the terrible consequences of what happens when someone or nation turns their back on Israel.

 

The next thing we need to pray for jointly is that the damage Prime Minister Olmert of Israel can and will do be mitigated by our prayer and standing on the Word of God. While we know that this type of person needs to be in charge for the prophecies to be fulfilled, he has gotten absolutely worse and worse each and every day. As the President of the United States gives him instructions, so he goes forth and does what he’s told. I don’t’ know why this is going on except for the Scriptural intent of it.

 

Also, let us turn for a moment to the United States. In the US there action taking place in every state of the Union using our own laws against us to nullify and cleanse religion and allow Islam to get a
foothold. Without going into great detail on that, I want to ask you all that we join together in prayer for God’s will, His mitigating mercies and that we will expand this remnant that we are all part of. As individuals, we can join together and be the light of the Lord – not just bring the light but be the light. We will continue together to bring the light forth.

 

Invite your friends to join us. They can sign up also for Desk of the Rabbi at Deskoftherabbi@aol.com, as you all know. We are looking for a way to insure that we can continue to get the Word of God out in a greater way. Looking forward to your responses to this missive, if any. Bless you all and remember that this is the great and terrible day of the Lord – great for the believer – terrible for the unbeliever and worse for the make believer. Let us help those make believers who don’t know that they are, come into the full light of the Lord. And let us pray for the
salvation of the Muslims so they will want to stop killing.

 

Bless you all,

 

In Service to the King,

Rabbi Moshe Laurie moshe3@aol.com

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