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Why The “We Need Female Leaders In The Church Because There Aren’t Enough Good Men” Is Just An Excuse For Rebellion And Sin

Posted by Job on August 17, 2010

Now, we have “evangelical feminists” on the move, demanding that the Biblical mandate for God-given roles to the sexes be discarded in favor of the current worldly fascination with the sort of social androgyny (the idea that there is no difference between the sexes that need to be respected) that homosexual Vaughn Walker used in his homosexual marriage advocacy from the bench. Further, in their pursuit of what is clearly an anti-Biblical agenda, they are employing the same rhetoric of the secular humanists feminists before them – as they are cut from the same cloth despite their evangelical pretensions – in claiming that Christians who support Biblical roles for males and females are contributing to spousal abuse, rape and child molestation. Of course, the recent explosion of such issues is due to society’s embrace of such notions as feminism and rejection of Biblical authority, not their fidelity to it. (I suppose that these evangelical feminists are going to claim that the early church, including the apostles who produced the New Testament, was this repository of child molesters and rapists. When you consider their outright rejection of inerrancy and Biblical authority in this matter, one would not be surprised if this is precisely what this group believes. Like the homosexual “Christians”, “evangelical feminists” ignore that these Bible interpretations have been handed down since the early church and are not the invention of a relatively recent group of bigots. Calling contemporary Christians misogynistic, homophobic child rapists for refusing to adhere to their current worldly interpretations means judging those who received the faith directly from Jesus Christ and His apostles as the same. But since honest theology and church history is not on their side, they resort to name-calling and appeals to the same body of “science” as is Freudian psychology and evolution that is used to justify homosexuality and a host of other abominations against one’s own body and other people.)

It seems that one of the more effective excuses to justify female church leadership – one that is gaining traction outside the Pentecostal and liberal theological circles that have long advocated for women pastors and leaders – is the shortage of suitable male leaders for the church. I do not deny the possibility that there is indeed a shortage of the number and type of male leaders required to staff our current ecclesiastical structure. However, the solution to that is to A) question if our (denominationally-driven) ecclesiastical structure is Biblical in the first place and B) realize that the abandonment of Biblical manhood and womanhood and a resulting environment of spiritual confusion and immaturity is a cause of this problem rather than the solution. Therefore, the way to have strong male leaders for the church going forward is for men and women to return to what the Bible commands rather than to use the spiritual condition of the contemporary church as an excuse to abandon it. Instead of looking for an excuse to justify sin and rebellion, we need to seek courage from the Holy Spirit to strengthen us to be faithful in this time of spiritual difficulty.

With that in mind, on my thread “Regarding Women Preachers: I Am Now Convinced That It Is Wrong” a Christian woman named Elsie made the following comment:

Paul says “I do not permit women to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” I agree with the word of God, but I see here that Paul says “I do not permit”, he did not say “God does not permit”.
I believe that only men have the authority to be pastors and leaders in the congregation. But I also believe that in some instances God has raised a woman to prophecy and to be a judge, etc.. When God chose these women to do a specific work, these women where humble women, godly women. I see in these days a lot of disharmony in the church with many women ministring. I don’t think they where called by God. One of the things that astonishes me is how these women dress when they stand in the pulpit. How can a man visit such congregation and stay connected with “the word” when this woman is dressed in a provocative way? There is nothing humble about that and there is nohing holy about that either. We have to be watchful and careful that we do not provoque others to fall.

I will allow her comment and my response below to serve as a rejoinder to those who might be deceived by evangelical feminism, including the argument “We need female leaders in the church because there aren’t enough good male leaders:

““I do not permit women to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” I agree with the word of God, but I see here that Paul says “I do not permit”, he did not say “God does not permit”.”When Paul was saying “I do not permit”, he was speaking from the position of authority as an apostle of Jesus Christ. So, what an apostle permitted or denied was based on revelation from Jesus Christ, and therefore binding to the church. That was the real meaning of the oft-misunderstood “binding and loosing” passages of Matthew 16:19 and Matthew 18:18, which is that the apostles, being appointed by Jesus Christ and received the revelation directly from Jesus Christ, had the right to establish doctrines and practices for the early church and those thereafter. This is not to say that Paul was divine in any sense, only that he spoke in the Name of God just as did an Old Testament prophet. When Paul was giving an opinion that he didn’t want to be considered binding, he said so in verses like 1 Corinthians 7:6 when he gave his opinion that it is better not to marry. Please note that in another place (1 Titus 4:3) Paul called forbidding to marry a devil’s doctrine.

“But I also believe that in some instances God has raised a woman to prophecy and to be a judge, etc..”

That is clear. God also raises up female deacons. The issue is the offices [that the Bible restricts women from holding] of pastor and teacher, not of evangelist, prophet or deacon.

… the Bible clearly lays out the role of elder spiritually gifted women in the church, which is to instruct younger women in faith and practice and to tend to the moral and spiritual development of children. In these times Christian woman have despised the role intended and laid out by God for them in order to seek the roles that God has set aside for men. You can see the negative effects on young women and children that result from this neglect. Ironically, the confusion in the church that results in the neglect of young women and children (as confused young women and children today become the very confused people who wind up leading churches 30 years down the line) is what is used as an excuse to justify female pastors.

For instance, a lot of people claim that there should be women leaders because there aren’t enough suitable male leaders, and they use Deborah in the time of the Judges as their proof-text. What they ignore is that the lack of suitable male leaders is precisely because of the refusal of elder women to instruct young mothers and of young mothers to instruct young women. And the proof-text of this is not only that of the kings in Israel (meaning that the kings who had righteous mothers who followed the Lord themselves followed the Lord, but the kings who had wicked mothers turned away from the Lord, and this was the case regardless of the spiritual condition of the father … a godly king and a rotten queen would produce rotten a rotten kid inheriting the throne, but a rotten king and a godly queen would produce a good child who would go on to become king) but also that Deborah herself had to rule because of Israel’s spiritual apostasy, their turning against God, at the time.

So, it speaks volumes that the women who use the lack of suitable male leaders as an excuse to be pastors and teachers are perfectly willing to personally profit from the dire straits that the church is in. That makes you nothing but a spiritual scalawag or carpetbagger. (If you are not from the American South, look the terms up … they mean someone who exploits a great tragedy for personal gain.) The proper response for Christian women to the lack of good male leaders in this generation is to adhere to what the Bible says regarding instructing younger women and children so that the next generation will have strong male leaders for the church. And this is precisely what the God-fearing queens of Israel who were married to evil husbands did. They did not attempt coups against their husbands so that they could rule righteously in their husband’s stead. (Consider that the only female usurper of the throne of Israel was the Baal worshiper Athaliah.) Instead, they raised their sons to know and fear God so that righteous rule would return in the next generation. The righteous queens of Israel knew the merits of adhering to God’s plan instead of following after their own human designs. Christian women chasing feminism idolatry would do well to follow their example. This is ever so more the case of Pentecostal women for whom female pastors is commonly accepted, as Pentecostals are known for their particular emphasis on Old Testament types and examples.

So, if righteous Old Testament queens operating without the benefit of the full revelation of Jesus Christ were able and willing to do what was necessary to produce godly kings for Old Testament Israel, how much more should New Testament Christian women who have the full revelation of Jesus Christ be expected to do so? Those who reject the Bible on this issue in order to follow a corrupt and fallen worldly mindset are without excuse.

For a more exhaustive treatment of this issue, please read:

Why Women Cannot Be Preachers

And to begin conforming your life to God’s desires:

Follow The Three Step Salvation Plan

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Regarding Carrie Prejean, Evangelicalism And The Culture War

Posted by Job on May 12, 2009

I recall a very recent incident where I purchased my first
Christian rap CD, certain that it would provide edifying entertainment for my
very young son during our frequent automobile trips. However, when the music
began to play, my son put his hands over his ears, and began yelling for me to
turn it off, the reason being “it sounds like the devil’s music.” Now
as I was very much enjoying the CD in question, I tried to explain to the child
that it was in fact Christian music. The child replied that he would much
rather listen to one of HIS CDs. So, the Christian rap went out, and one of his
several CDs of classic hymns, Negro spirituals and similar took its place,
which included “Standing On The Promises of God.” I confess to not having
learned the lyrics to this song, but I do remember something about “standing on
the promises that cannot fail.”

And now I find myself reading Pilgrim’s Progress by John
Bunyan for the first time. I not long ago passed the section where Christian
succumbed to the temptation of one Worldly Wiseman to depart from the hard path
given to him to the Celestial City by Evangelist and instead set out for what
was promised to be the easier path over Mount Sinai to Mr. Legality and his
handsome son civility in the nice village Morality. And this reminds me of the
Carrie Prejean tempest: this where beauty pageant contestant lost the Miss
America pageant (which is owned by Donald Trump, who considers twice divorced
prosperity preacher Paula White his friend and pastor) for speaking out against
homosexual marriage.

As a result, this Miss Prejean has found herself many
supporters in the evangelical Christian community for fighting the good fight
in the culture war, having had the privilege of such experiences as being
interviewed by James Dobson, speaking at a prominent evangelical Christian
university, and being a presenter for the Dove Awards. Miss Prejean’s Christian
advocates have presented her as an example of a bold Christian woman who has
risked and suffered in warfare.

While this is certainly true, as Prejean clearly lost the
Miss America title, was very nearly stripped of the Miss California title, and
has had explicit pictures (some that she acknowledges to be real, others that
she alleges are fake) released by those seeking to force the Miss California pageant
to strip her of her crown for violating her contract, I have to ask: what battle
is it that she is fighting anyway, and is it a worthwhile one?

Again, go back to “Standing On The Promises Of God.” God’s
promises cannot fail, which means that God’s battles cannot be lost, because in
God’s battles, it is not us that are fighting, but rather God Himself that
fights for us. So as long as remain obedient and faithful to scripture and
adhere to the things that Jesus Christ commanded of us, we cannot lose. Our
success is guaranteed, predetermined, predestined.

However, when we depart from the path, leave behind the
commandments of Jesus Christ, and start seeking our own agendas, failure is
inevitable. Oh, we may win a victory or two here and there, but it is only a
temporary fleeting battle won at a huge cost – not the least a great diversion
of prayers and works by well meaning Christians – in a war that will ultimately
be lost. The person who bears witness of this best is none other than James
Dobson, the very same who interviewed Prejean. Upon retiring from his leadership
of Focus On The Family, Dobson acknowledged that he, his organization and its
fellow travelers had lost every single battle, including that against
homosexual marriage, which will become legal in many parts of the country
within a few years. And let us never forget that the great legal victory that
made homosexual marriage possible was a court decision, Lawrence versus Texas,
given to us by a Supreme Court stacked with appointees of the very conservative
Republican presidents that Dobson and his peers spent a generation getting
Christians to not only vote but contribute, volunteer, fast and pray to get
elected in the first place. What do we know from this? As Jesus Christ promised
us that so long as remain faithful to Him and do His Will that we shall not
fail, the very failure of Dobson’s efforts, shows that Dobson and those like
him were never fighting the Lord’s battle to begin with.

And consider further the supreme irony: the biggest defeats
have come from the very people aligned with Dobson! Recall that Ronald Reagan,
when given the opportunity to appoint justices that would overturn Roe v. Wade,
instead put not one but two pro – abortion judges on the court, and George H.
W. Bush, who became president due to being the vice president of Reagan thanks
in no small part to people like Dobson, appointed a third pro – abortion judge,
and yes all three of those judges cast their votes in the Lawrence versus Texas
decision to pave the way for homosexual marriage as well.

So gentle Christians, what we should learn from this is that
Jesus Christ, God’s own Word and thereby God Himself, did not come to earth as
a human to be slain on a cross to pay the debt of original sin, in order to
redeem the culture. He did not do so in order to lend political support to any specific
nation, whether the United States or Israel, or any cause. The reason is that
cultures, nations, and causes are worldly things, and the result of the death
of Jesus Christ was to create the church, which is ekklesia in Greek, and
ekklesia means “called out.” What is the church called out of? The world and
worldly things. Instead of trying to change the world in some vain, idolatrous,
blasphemous quest to transform its sin and wickedness into the image of the
holiness and righteousness of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, instead of
trying to give that which is destined to die the image of that which through
the resurrection of Jesus Christ will have eternal life, the only duty that I
have seen given through Jesus Christ and His apostles and prophets to the New
Testament church is that of saving and discipling sinners. Even the good deeds
and charitable works that Jesus Christ commanded His disciples to love our
neighbors and by this way to also love Him was towards that end; acts by which
the unsaved are reached and the saved are to learn to grow in the grace and
knowledge of our only Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Now let it be known that evangelical Christians are supposed
to be sola scriptura Protestants. After all, the term “evangelical” was taken
up as a self – descriptive one by the Protestant Reformers. So, I challenge any
sola scriptural Protestant to identify me the Bible verse that commands
Christians to put aside the work of evangelizing the world and discipling those
who by and according to the grace and prerogative of God the Father (those that
the Father gave to the Son) respond to the gospel and start working to give the
unregenerate masses the appearance of righteousness, a form of godliness that
denies the power thereof, show it to me and I will repent of this missive. If
no such verse exists – and I have never encountered it in the New Testament –
then those who continue with this behavior should cease to call themselves sola
scriptura, which means they should cease to call themselves Protestants, which
means that they should cease to call themselves evangelical, which means that
they should cease to call themselves Christians.

This is no mere doctrinal dispute. Again, Jesus Christ gave us in His Holy Spirit – inspired word promises that work done in His Name would
never fail. The end result of not only decades of the religious right but many
centuries of church – states and church – cultures has been nothing but massive
thoroughgoing failure. If you refuse to consider me to be one qualified to
speak to this matter, then heed Søren Kierkegaard; read his Attack Upon Christendom (that is if you can abide theistic existentialism long enough to). So by committing all of these
efforts to works, by fighting all of these battles, that we claim to be in the
Name of Jesus Christ, what witness does the church bear to the promises, the
veracity, the power, the faithfulness, the very Name of Jesus Christ by which
we are saved and are to overcome death, be resurrected from the dead, and
inherit the Celestial City when these things fail? When WE fail?

Because like Christian in Pilgrim’s Progress, we have abandoned
the path to the Celestial City and Mount Zion to the Morality Village, the
abode of Mr. Legality and Civility by way of Mount Sinai, that same is the way
of death. We have abandoned the counsel of the apostles, prophets and Jesus
Christ Himself for that of Worldly Wisemen politicians and hucksters, in
addition to not a few very sincere but ultimately misguided and sincere pastors
and theologians, which unfortunately included not a few of the very same
Reformers themselves, who were not long removed from the murderous yoke of the
Roman church – states themselves began drowning Anabaptists and burning
heretics. Indeed, John Bunyan himself spent twelve years in the dark prison of
a Christian nation, separated from his church and family, for the crime of preaching
the gospel.

Morality, legality and civility. Sound like “Christian
values”, “family values”, “American values”, “Judeo – Christian values”, “Judeo
– Christian heritage” and all the other buzzwords to you? It certainly sounds like
that to me. Well, those are legalism, an external righteousness of the
Pharisees, devoid of the religion of the heart that Jesus Christ gave us. It is
darkness devoid of the Light that came to this world that the darkness does not
comprehend. Of course, a person, a group, a movement, a nation can impose
morality, legality and civility for a period of time by expending no small
amount of energy or cost. Keep in mind however: such moral societies do not
have to be Christian … homosexuality, abortion, crime, divorce etc. are very
much kept under control in not a few Muslim societies, and such was also the
case in fascist regimes like those run by Pinochet and Franco. Also, a
democracy cannot maintain “moral societies” anywhere nearly as long as a
monarchy, totalitarian regime or dictatorship.

But it is only for a time. Remember Lot’s wife. Or better
yet remember the Holy Roman Empire! When Constantine allegedly converted (but in
truth began to exploit the faith for state power – including appropriating the
symbol of the Prince of Peace for warfare, a fact that we should think of when
so many evangelicals unconditionally support the war in Iraq as well as torture)
Eusebius and many other pastors and theologians of the time insisted that the
whole thing was the work of God, that Constantine’s making Christianity the
religion of the empire was part of God’s redemptive-historic plan for mankind,
and that through the Roman Empire the whole world would be subdued for Jesus
Christ. What happened? It failed. The Holy Roman Empire broke apart, falling to
the Muslims.

The reason why is that Jesus Christ did not come to earth,
conduct His ministry, die from the cross, and rise from the dead in order to
bring such things into existence. Those things are not wrapped up within the

promises of God, so they will fail. They are works of the flesh, not of the spirit, so they are vanity. You can fight it, you can delay it, but ultimately, as a dog returns to his vomit (Proverb 26:11) that which is sinful will return to sin. A system of laws and rituals can control an unregenerate person for a time, but that sinner will ultimately go back to sin just as
Pliable, Simple, Sloth, Presumption, Formalist, Hypocrisy, Mistrust, Timorous
and all the rest abandoned the true pilgrim Christian on the straight and
narrow path to the Celestial City. And as societies are by definition going to
contain large majorities of unsaved and in many instances shall be ruled by
them, they will go the same way.

This was the failure of the doctrine of the ecclesiola within
the ecclesia, the actual church within the political and cultural church-state
that was advanced in some form by Augustine (representing as he did Catholicism),
Calvin (representing church – state Protestantism) and various others, and it
is the same failure of the various modern dominionism movements -including but
certainly not limited to the religious right and some of the more robust forms
of premillennial dispensationalism and Christian Zionism – whose adherents
proclaim themselves to be taking (or taking back) cultures, nations and
ultimately the globe for Christ.

I am reminded of the words of the pastor character in Frank
Peretti’s novel The Visitation (not exactly Pilgrim’s Progress granted,
but a good read nonetheless!) who upon hearing an inexperienced and zealous
pastor state “we are taking this town for Christ” replied “not even Christ took
a town for Christ.” As Jesus Christ’s own nation, the Jews, rejected Him, what
more evidence is there that Jesus Christ did not die for a nation, a culture, a
political agenda, or any other worldly thing, but rather to redeem the church?
Now Jesus Christ’s death and resurrection did, against all odds, succeed. The
church was born, has existed for going on 2,000 years, and will live forever.
However, the failure of all of these movements proves that no matter the
sincerity, fervency, and honorable motives of many of the people who inspire
and are caught up in them, are sadly due to fail because they have no part in
Jesus Christ’s promises and thus will have no part in His resurrection.

I keep hearing Christians speak of how this can be changed
with a revival, and have taken it upon themselves to try to initiate one. They
recall how society was transformed in America and Britain through the Great
Awakenings, and long for another to happen. I remember the claims that great
outpouring of national unity and people returning to churches after September
11th 2001 may spark just such a revival, a return of this nation to
its “Christian values and heritage.” It was easy to suffer such fantasies when
George W. Bush was in office. Well, not only did George W. Bush prove to be
someone who does not believe that the Bible is literally true and the final
authority and also that Muslims and Christians (and presumably other religions
as well) all pray to the same god, but this nation is now saddled with a
president about whom no one can entertain such delusions. Alas, it was just
another failure by people who were never seeking the true Will of Jesus Christ
to begin with.

While Jonathan Edwards, George Whitefield and the other
revivalists of these awakenings may have had some state – church or state –
culture sympathies, the reason why their revivals as well as the missionary
revival started by William Carey and Adoniram Judson and before them Zinzendorf,
Spener and the Moravians succeeded was because their aim was to preach the
gospel and save souls! Their goals were not social or political but spiritual.
That was why they could not fail. They accomplished the results that they were
seeking because the results were the Lord adding to the church such as should
be saved (Acts 2:47). And yes, that verse does say THE LORD adding to the
church, not man through his own efforts doing so. Why? Because as stated
earlier … it was the Lord’s doing, the Lord’s work, the Lord’s battle to begin
with. Do the Lord’s will, and the Lord fights for you. Do your own will, and the
Lord fights against you. Do you deny this? Well then ask King Saul. His
kingdom, his portion was taken from him and given to another because he stopped
fighting the Lord’s battle the Lord’s way and started fighting his battles his
way. Instead of establishing God’s kingdom, it became about Saul’s kingdom.
When Saul’s son asked him for what cause did he seek the life of David, who had
never done any harm to Saul, King Saul cursed his son, calling him the son of a
dog, and asked “don’t you realize that as long as David lives you will never
have MY KINGDOM?” But it was never Saul’s kingdom to give. Saul and his sons
died, God’s kingdom went to David, and through the One Jesus Christ who
descended from David, it will last forever.

So, Christian, are you laboring for Mr. Legality with
Civility in the village Morality for things that, like the Holy Roman Empire,
the Reformed church – states, and Saul’s kingdom, will not last because they
are of this world and are things that Revelation 20 and 21 states will be
destroyed with fire and replaced with a new heaven and a new earth? Or are you
going to love Jesus Christ by keeping His commandments, and thereby laboring
for things that will last forever, in the Celestial City where the rust and
moth cannot destroy?

Gentle Christian, I sincerely entreat and implore you to
turn aside from all that which is pertaining to Mr. Legality, Civility, and the
village Morality … things of Sinai that will fail. Instead, join Pilgrim on the
narrow path to the Celestial City so that your works will last forever. In
closing, let me give you some words by Russell K. Carter, circa 1886.

  1. Standing on the promises of Christ
    my King,
    Through eternal ages let His praises ring,
    Glory in the highest, I will shout and sing,
    Standing on the promises of God.
  • Refrain:
    Standing, standing,
    Standing on the promises of God my Savior;
    Standing, standing,
    I’m standing on the promises of God.
  • Standing on the promises that
    cannot fail,
    When the howling storms of doubt and fear assail,
    By the living Word of God I shall prevail,
    Standing on the promises of God.
  • Standing on the promises I now can
    see
    Perfect, present cleansing in the blood for me;
    Standing in the liberty where Christ makes free,
    Standing on the promises of God.
  • Standing on the promises of Christ
    the Lord,
    Bound to Him eternally by love’s strong cord,
    Overcoming daily with the Spirit’s sword,
    Standing on the promises of God.
  • Standing on the promises I cannot
    fall,
    List’ning every moment to the Spirit’s call,
    Resting in my Savior as my all in all,
    Standing on the promises of God.
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    While Tonex Is Apostate The Wife That He Discarded Is Fighting The Good Fight!

    Posted by Job on August 23, 2008

    Another update from Gay Christian Movement Watch. Please note that we are seeing more and more of the evil of the evangelical religious right hero Ronald Reagan. First, the fellow signs into law the nation’s most liberal abortion measure BEFORE Roe v. Wade. Then, he appoints a bunch of socially liberal judges to the California bench, and does the same with the federal and Supreme Courts. Then, I find out that the fellow was nothing but a mole for the Vatican, implementing their agenda in the United States. Part of that agenda was the amnesty for illegal immigrants program, and increasing globalization. And now, it comes that he signs a no – fault divorce law in California, helping set the stage for the gay rights movement today (high divorce rates among heterosexuals has been one of the most effective rhetorical devices for gay rights activists). And not only was his wife a necromancer, but he himself participated in some of her “psychic readings.” And no, Reagan did not propose a law OR push an executive order to stop federal dollars from going to Planned Parenthood either. Nor did he lift a finger to help Operation Rescue as the media, courts, and politicians were destroying it. My goodness, if Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, or any other Democrat had done one tenth of this wickedness these same religious right phonies would be shouting it from the rooftoops! It is past time that Christians start challenging our brothers and sisters, pastors and leaders over their continued affection for Reagan.

    Ex-wife of Tonex: gay marriage part of satan’s agenda

    Very interesting article written by Yvette (Graham) Williams (pictured at left with Tonex in 2002), the former Mrs. Tonex. Yvette was divorced from Tonex in 2005 and has since focused on recovering and speaking out against divorce. This is an excerpt from a larger article entitled “Satan’s agenda exposed.”   Although the article uses strong language to rebuke divorce among God’s people, Williams highlights the proliferation of homosexual marriage as an example of what we can expect as continue to lower the standards and disobey God’s Word.  It is reflects the same syllogism of Romans 1. The peice was written in late 2007, but is very insightful and sound, especially in light of her former husband’s now growing embrace of homosexuality and the gay christian movement.

    Satan’s next move was covered under the cloth of equal rights and privileges for homosexuals.  He wanted the stage appropriate set homosexuality’s place of prominence and in an effort to garner acceptance by voluntary action or by force, coalitions of gays and lesbians began rallying for equal rights to live as they chose and have the laws of America say so.  I am not going into great details on how they’ve maneuvered their way in to prominence through coalition building and joining their voices to gain attention from political powers, you can research this on your own.  What I will say is their collective initiatives and Babel-like intention to build their tower of strength has become the foundation from which they stand on major platforms and demand political attention including the legal rights to live as they please and have the same benefits as those of heterosexuals.  So, as you can see, Satan is patient but persistent in waging his war against marriage as we know God intended!

    Let’s look at the pawns he uses next in his ploy to overthrown heterosexual marriages: celebrities and other people of renown.  Satan knows the power of media and celebrity. He is the master of imagery, and understanding human nature and the psyche of people, he knows men and woman of all ages are intrinsically influenced by the media and what popular people are wearing, saying and doing.  Whether we believe it or not, media influences the way people live and the decisions they make, and unless each of us takes care to pay attention to our thoughts and intentions, we too walk that fine line of crossing over into living our lives in accordance with the ways of television’s elite; this includes the lifestyles of politicians, sports personalities, actors, musicians and singers who are constantly seen in front of the camera.

    Having celebrities come out the closet and pronounce their lifestyle brings more attention to Satan’s idea of garnering equal rights and privileges and ultimately the right for same-sex couples to marry.  In an article titled Lesbian Life, from online website About.com, it listed women from politicians to sports persons, television personalities, etc., who have announced they are lesbian to the world.  Ellen DeGeneres (actor/talk show host) came out in 1996 just after playing a lesbian role on TV, she was promoted to now have her own talk show, Rosie O’Donnell (actor/talk show host) came out in part to help fight for the rights of gay and lesbian partners, Melissa Etheridge (singer) came out in 1993 at the Presidential Inauguration, Nelly Furtado (singer) came out as bisexual and wants her own gay pride parade, Colonel Margarethe Cammermeyer is the highest ranking military official to come out while in the service and there are many others.  On this same website, an article, The Hottest Gay Celebrities listed men who have come out of the closet, including Randy Harrison (actor) who played a gay coming of age role in the movie “Queer as Folk”, Kyan Douglas (grooming guru) of the popular TV show, “Queer Eye for the Straight Guy”, Nate Berkus (decorator), often seen and has the stamp of approval from Oprah and his segment, on Oprah’s Decorate With Nate, and others.  These celebrity television appearances and coming out of the closet moments have proven positive motivation for towards the enemy’s ultimate goal and to the dismay of the Body of Christ, but what’s more palatable to his appetite is the parade of failed heterosexual marriages.  He just sinks his teeth into showcasing the fact that heterosexual marriages aren’t working so why not give same-sex marriages a go.”

    Her article below:

    Satan’s Agenda Exposed- By Yvette Williams

     Satan’s Agenda Exposed

    October 31, 2007

    By:  Yvette Williams

     As Christians, we know the scripture backwards and forward that says the devil is crafty and cunning and goes about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour.  We know that he is subtle and is a seducer of the feebleminded, simple and those who are not on guard against his wiles.  As the Body of Christ, I see his agenda is to destroy what God calls honorable; marriage!  He said in his sight marriage is honorable and the bed undefiled.  Satan is anti-God and any God-institution established.  That being the case, I wonder why aren’t we more vigilant in fighting for the family, for marriages and to retain a voice of reason in the world.  We have spent enough time fighting over doctrines, over women wearing make-up and pants in the church pews and over denominational differences.  If the common denominator is Jesus Christ that should be enough for the whole body to come together and put its strengths and focus where needed.  I suggest we focus on restoration of the sacredness of marriage between a man and a woman because clearly the enemy is out to establish marriage between same sexes and (forgive my Ebonics) that ain’t right! 

    Satan wants marriage as we know it today, between a man and a woman to be done away with or at best have same-sex marriage as viable option.  He wants to introduce as a way of life, same-sex marriages to go along side of God’s institution and he has carefully marked out his plans for seeing his agenda rise above God’s order.  You ask how, I’ll give you some things to consider how he has carefully mapped out his strategy and how we have been either oblivious to it or avoided it as an option altogether, after all, God would never let that happen.  Satan is brilliant…He has taken the opportunity to stage his fight carefully, first with making divorce easier to come by whereby weakening the institution of marriage itself.  His next move, disguised under the mask of prejudice and the need for acceptance of all races and lifestyles, he’d introduce the need to make homosexuality legal and from there popularize homosexuality as the “in thing” by encouraging people to “come out the closet” in public and the next major blow he imagined was maximizing the media attention on divorces of heterosexual greats. 

    In 1953 Oklahoma became the first state to introduce ‘no-fault divorce’, and in 1970 then-Governor Ronald Reagan signed no-fault divorce into law in California; from there most other states followed suit.  Here’s some interesting information about California’s no-fault law.  It was drafted by Assemblyman, James Hayes.  According to Judy Parejko, author of Stolen Vows: The Illusion of No-Fault Divorce and the Rise of the American Divorce Industry, Assemblyman Hayes “was responsible for doggedly pursuing [the no-fault divorce] bill because he was facing a divorce and he didn’t like the rules at the time.  Today we’d call the conflict of interest but clearly, his agenda was to change the rules to benefit his personal dilemma.  It became too easy for people to walk away from their marriages with no grounds other than they no longer wanted the marriage.  With this law coming into play, Satan had the foot hole he so desperately needed to etch his way in to make his next move.

     According to The Journal of Marriage and the Family, the divorce rate soared by 250% over a twenty-year period from 1960 to 1980 and I believe the implications for this increase was the passing of the ‘no fault divorce’ law in almost all of the united states of America.

     Satan’s next move was covered under the cloth of equal rights and privileges for homosexuals.  He wanted the stage appropriate set homosexuality’s place of prominence and in an effort to garner acceptance by voluntary action or by force, coalitions of gays and lesbians began rallying for equal rights to live as they chose and have the laws of America say so.  I am not going into great details on how they’ve maneuvered their way in to prominence through coalition building and joining their voices to gain attention from political powers, you can research this on your own.  What I will say is their collective initiatives and Babel-like intention to build their tower of strength has become the foundation from which they stand on major platforms and demand political attention including the legal rights to live as they please and have the same benefits as those of heterosexuals.  So, as you can see, Satan is patient but persistent in waging his war against marriage as we know God intended!

     Let’s look at the pawns he uses next in his ploy to overthrown heterosexual marriages: celebrities and other people of renown.  Satan knows the power of media and celebrity. He is the master of imagery, and understanding human nature and the psyche of people, he knows men and woman of all ages are intrinsically influenced by the media and what popular people are wearing, saying and doing.  Whether we believe it or not, media influences the way people live and the decisions they make, and unless each of us takes care to pay attention to our thoughts and intentions, we too walk that fine line of crossing over into living our lives in accordance with the ways of television’s elite; this includes the lifestyles of politicians, sports personalities, actors, musicians and singers who are constantly seen in front of the camera.

     Having celebrities come out the closet and pronounce their lifestyle brings more attention to Satan’s idea of garnering equal rights and privileges and ultimately the right for same-sex couples to marry.  In an article titled Lesbian Life, from online website About.com, it listed women from politicians to sports persons, television personalities, etc., who have announced they are lesbian to the world.  Ellen DeGeneres (actor/talk show host) came out in 1996 just after playing a lesbian role on TV, she was promoted to now have her own talk show, Rosie O’Donnell (actor/talk show host) came out in part to help fight for the rights of gay and lesbian partners, Melissa Etheridge (singer) came out in 1993 at the Presidential Inauguration, Nelly Furtado (singer) came out as bisexual and wants her own gay pride parade, Colonel Margarethe Cammermeyer is the highest ranking military official to come out while in the service and there are many others.  On this same website, an article, The Hottest Gay Celebrities listed men who have come out of the closet, including Randy Harrison (actor) who played a gay coming of age role in the movie “Queer as Folk”, Kyan Douglas (grooming guru) of the popular TV show, “Queer Eye for the Straight Guy”, Nate Berkus (decorator), often seen and has the stamp of approval from Oprah and his segment, on Oprah’s Decorate With Nate, and others.  These celebrity television appearances and coming out of the closet moments have proven positive motivation for towards the enemy’s ultimate goal and to the dismay of the Body of Christ, but what’s more palatable to his appetite is the parade of failed heterosexual marriages.  He just sinks his teeth into showcasing the fact that heterosexual marriages aren’t working so why not give same-sex marriages a go.

     Clearly, Satan has reared his ugly head again with the very public demise of two powerful marriages in Christendom.  Thursday, August 23, 2007, Randy and Paula White announced to their approximately 23,000 member church their plan to divorce.  Citing no third parties on either side that resulted in their collective decision, they explained that they’ve just grown apart and thus the reason they are divorcing.  Friday, September 7, 2007, Juanita Bynum announces she filed for divorce from her husband of five years after an alleged brutal attack by her estranged husband, Bishop Thomas Weeks III on the night of August 23rd.  Bynum and Weeks were noted to have been separated for 3 months prior to this event. Both couples have great ministries, with followers of every race, age and denomination attending their churches and conferences.

     

    Both of these couples are renowned in both Christendom and in the secular world for what they say, do and preach.  They are public figures seen on television and heard over the radio and how they live their lives directly affects their followers and the secular world watching them.  How their marriages have ended is a target for proponents of same sex marriage who will use their divorces as leverage to garner rights for gays and lesbians to marry.  After all, how can the church protest and tell law makers, politicians and proponents of same sex marriage that same-sex marriage is wrong when their heterosexual marriages are ending in divorce by as much as 50 percent or more? 

     

    We have got to get our voice back.  We have got to regain our composure as the Body of Christ and realize God loves and established the institution of marriage.  We can no longer diminish the voice of reason, the voice of the church to rebut against homosexuality and same-sex marriage by allowing the demise of marriages to continue.  As a whole, we must repent, turn around and take a stand and fight again for marriage.  The church as a whole and people individually must take a stand and engage in warfare that includes a balanced mix of prayer and work towards health marriages.  We must pray for marriages.  Couples actively working at having healthy relationships are key components to waging an effective war!  Let the war begin today to combat the enemy of God’s institution of marriage.  Married couples, work on your marriage!  You have the power within you to have a great marriage but it takes the power of two to make it happen!

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    Big Business Against Christianity: Hallmark Rolls Out Gay Marriage Cards

    Posted by Job on August 21, 2008

    http://christianpost.com/article/20080821/hallmark-rolls-out-gay-marriage-cards.htm

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    Washington DC Pro – Homosexual Episcopal Leader Calls Biblical Christians Demonic!

    Posted by Job on July 17, 2008

    Normally liberal Christians like the Episcopals do not even acknowledge that demons exist. They have totally despiritualized their interpretation of the Bible, claiming that accounts of demonic possessions were actually mental or physical diseases, and that Jesus Christ’s healing accounts were allegories. They also claim that other things in the Bible referring to good, evil, final judgment, etc. merely speak of social, political, and economic conditions. But now you see what takes them out of their mold. Last year a prominent Christian liberal – and a hateful critic of Biblical Christians – who previously denied the existence of sin or God’s judgment decided that JUST MAYBE global warming was God’s wrath being poured out against big business. So he modified his position that there was no sin and no judgment to say “well I guess sin and judgment exist after all FOR THE RICH.” And now you have this guy, who attributes opposition to homosexuality to evil spirits. This really shows how angry and vicious these people are getting against those that oppose the sin of homosexuality. They have really gotten to the point where they have decided that even having civil discussions with those that disagree is impossible. According to them, people that oppose homosexuality are not only wrong but evil, and not worthy of any consideration save what it takes to ban, censure, and punish them. I have to tell you, once gay marriage becomes legal and hate crimes laws are enacted, opposition to homosexuality will rapidly become an untenable position for anyone to hold in respectable mainstream society. The reason is that government, media, and the elite universities have become so powerful that rather than responding to and reflecting the needs and the will of the people, they lead on virtually every issue and people just follow. And yes, this includes the church. Again, I do not like to use this term that I see on the websites of some of my more bold Christian brothers, but with regard to following whatever is popular and acceptable in mainstream culture, many Christians have in fact become “SHEEPLE.” The reason is that Christianity has now become just another product that you can buy, sell, and COMPARISON SHOP, and you can have it either buffet, a la carte, fast food, gourmet, stir – fried, or even sushied. I am not saying that most evangelical churches will become pro – homosexual the instant President John McCain signs San Francisco Democrat Nancy Pelosi’s hate crimes bill and his veto of the Defense of Marriage Act. No, evangelicalism will do as they have done everything else as it has become inconvenient in the public sphere: THEY WILL STOP TALKING ABOUT IT! Case in point: I have a book from the “Counterpoints” series where prominent theologians debate an issue whose subject was the lake of fire (or hell). All of the theologians agreed that evangelical pastors had ceased talking about the subject, and that when the publishers of the book were looking for someone to represent the orthodox Biblical doctrine on the matter, NO ONE WANTED TO DO IT! The only one willing to step up and do so was a single very old (and indeed since passed away) Baptist preacher and former seminary president. And when was this book published? 1994! Almost 15 years ago! So 15 years ago you had all of these political evangelical leaders more than willing to publicly criticize Bill Clinton’s adultery before the TV cameras, but none who were willing to preach about the lake of fire before their own congregations. So 15 years from now, how many leading conservative pastors will be willing to speak out against homosexuality? My guess is that you will ask them, and they will shift uncomfortably, avert their eyes, and reply “the Bible and Christian tradition are clear on such matters” and let that be that! And yes, the reason why they will take that approach is because they don’t want to endure the sort of things said against them contained in the link below. And please do not think that I am just some homophobic bashing homosexuals. The REAL issue here, the REAL stakes, is the inerrancy and authority of scripture. THAT is what John Chane was speaking of. 

    I think it’s really very dangerous when someone stands up and says: ‘I have the way and I have the truth and I know how to interpret holy scripture and you are following what is the right way,'” he said “It’s really very, very dangerous and I think it’s demonic. The Episcopal church has been demonised. It has been a punching bag, and I’m sick of being a punching bag as a bishop and I’m sick of my church, my province being a punching bag.”

    What this fellow is saying is that insisting on a particular interpretation of scripture is evil, because in his view scripture should have no authority over the church. The church can use whatever verses that it finds convenient to reinforce their philosophical platitudes, but that is it. So, the view is going to soon be that declaring the Bible to be the unique and final revelation of God to man is evil and dangerous. And guess what? The “third wave” charismatics led by Todd Bentley agree. This neo – Montanist sect (which incidentally has totally rejected the piety of the original Montanists) are trying their best to instigate a civil war between sola scriptura Christians and those who believe in continuous revelation. Why? Sola scriptura in their demon and confusion addled minds will hinder the worldwide revival that will fulfill the great commission and cause the rapture (clue pre – tribulation dispensationalism). In other words, they are trying to fulfill the ambitions of their founder William Seymour of Azusa Street. And who do these folks have on their side? Why, the “Jesus Christ had to be born again” and “if you want to see God look in the mirror” Word of Faith/prosperity people! Fred Price, whose newest title sequence proudly proclaims that he was the ORIGINAL Word of Faith/prosperity teacher before all of these “new school” guys like TD Jakes, Joel Osteen, Paula White, and Joyce Meyer came out and started stealing his thunder, has been anointed as an APOSTLE by Todd Bentley. That link is from Soli Deo Gloria. PJ Miller is sola scriptura, too, so he is one of the people that these new wave Pentecostals, the Word of Faith/prosperity people, and the liberal Christians are at the moment going after because of his fidelity to the truth, infallibility, and final authority of scripture. But Psalm 1 talks about what is going to happen to those people! Pay particular attention to verse 5! Oh yes, and don’t forget about Psalm 2! The mighty day of the Lord is coming, and on that day it will clearly be revealed who is on the Lord’s side. Those who are NOT on the Lord’s side will not only be the ones who reject His Son through His Word AND those who CLAIM to accept it BUT WILL NOT PUBLICLY DEFEND IT. Are you a sheep or are you SHEEPLE? TODAY is the time to take your stand, because I have to tell you, tomorrow is not promised to you! And this is not to defend Omar Khadr (other than to point out that he clearly should have been treated according to the Geneva Convention) but I cannot help but thinking that the data that the government is using on him and all of the rest of their Guantanamo Bay human guinea pigs, doing all of these tests on them to learn about the human mind and gain all sorts of “valuable data”, is going to be used on Biblical Christians one day. Well, Christians, if you won’t open your mouth in defense of the faith today, you won’t be able to stand up to torture like this tomorrow.

    www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/17/religion

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    Hey Hey Hey McDonalds Says It Is OK To Be GAY!

    Posted by Job on July 5, 2008

    From Slice of Laodicea McDonald’s Chooses Sides in the Culture War

    Any of you Christians still bowing before the false idol of capitalism? Hey, I am not against capitalism, I am just talking about the politically conservative Christians who claim that God handed capitalism (along with democracy) on Sinai and Jesus Christ endorsed private property rights in the Sermon on the Mount. I keep telling the religious right Christians … big business only cares about money and gaining power that they can use to make more money. They don’t care about your values, and just like the rest of the world THEY HATE YOUR JESUS CHRIST. Open your eyes and stop pretending otherwise. Big business is part of the anti – Christ agenda just like everybody else. I still remember the 1980s when the dispensational pre – tribulation rapture cult had so many of us convinced that the anti – Christ was going to be a Soviet communist …

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    Brain Scans Showing Brains of Homosexuals Resembling People Of Opposite Sex Is The Result of SIN!

    Posted by Job on June 17, 2008

    Scans see ‘gay brain differences’

    People are going to use articles like these to assert that what the Bible teaches regarding homosexuality is wrong because homosexuality is an immutable biological characteristic like sex or race. (If anything, they view homosexuality as even more fundamental then sex – falsely commonly called gender, which is a political term created by homosexual feminists to suit their purposes – because sex change operations, now being given even to small children, are done to accommodate homosexual preferences.) 

    However, findings like these do not oppose the Bible, but rather confirm it. They should not weaken faith, but rather strengthen it. Why? Let me give you an example. I am not among those that claims “The Lord of the Rings” trilogy as a Christian allegory, and J.R.R. Tollkein’s vehement denials that it should be considered as such should be respected rather than claimed by Christians desperate to have a piece of popular culture all their own. Still, those familiar with the movies or books remember consider the effect that the ring, which represented evil and sin, had on Gollum. Consider not merely the effect that the ring had on Gollum’s MIND, giving him a split personality which Sam Gamgee named one “slinker” (after Gollum’s sneaky subversive subtle evil nature like Satan as the serpent in the Garden of Eden) and the other “stinker” (after Gollum’s more direct, malevolent, and aggressive evil nature like Satan as the dragon). Instead, also consider the effect that sin had on Gollum’s BODY. Where Gollum was once a hobbit like Frodo and Sam, sin transformed him PHYSICALLY into a twisted monstrosity that Aragorn referred to as “the footpad” after his froglike feet. Further, there were the orcs … originally elves but so PHYSICALLY twisted by Sauron’s witchcraft that not only did their appearance change, but they could no longer even bear sunlight! Again, “Lord of the Rings” is NOT CHRISTIAN, as Tollkein himself stated that it was his attempt to create a system of pagan mythology for Great Britain to go along with the Greek, Roman, and Norse mythology that he loved studying. Still, Gollum, the orcs, the trolls, etc. are examples of the physical effects of sin as told by a Mary – worshiping Roman Catholic that was very familiar with the subject, and as such makes for a very good secular nonbiblical contemporary example that can be used to illustrate a Biblical point.

    Here is the sad part: orthodox, evangelical, fundamentalist, conservative, Biblical, etc. Christians have no problem acknowledging that Adam’s fall and the resulting effects of sin and death entering creation had a tangible effect: that the spiritual consequences of Adam’s sin had a real and discernible effect or manifestation on the natural world. So what is the problem? Contemporary Christians compartmentalize. They only believe that the “spiritual stuff like that” happened BACK THEN. Modern Christians, even Bible – believing ones, have the modern secular humanist mindset that in these times, the spiritual God of heaven has basically gone deist and left the workings of the world to science, economics, politics, religion, culture, and the alleged ability of man to use those things to take dominion of and rule the earth. Yes, even according to theologically conservative Christians, when the apostolic age ended not only God but the entire spirit realm went on holiday, and God and the ability of the spirit realm to have a regular tangible discernible effect on the natural realm in a way that billions of people can witness and acknowledge will not happen again until the rapture, the great tribulation, or the return of Jesus Christ (depending upon your eschatological position … full disclosure mine is historic premillennialism, which was the position of the early church before eschatological viewpoints were corrupted by Greek pagan allegorizing and the political needs of the Roman Empire). 

    But no. Spiritual things and their ability to influence the natural world did not go away when Jesus Christ ascended back into heaven. The tangible physical effects of God’s grace are still present in all creation! God still causes the sun to shine and the rain to come for the good and the evil Matthew 5:45. What is it, modernist evangelical Christian? You do still believe that it is God that runs and sustains creation, right? Or have you been seduced by some corrupted form of natural theology that makes you more acceptable to the elite scholars and theologians? Well let me warn you … it was precisely that sort of corrupted natural theology, a form that made Christians marginally palatable to the atheist humanist enlightenment European academic community, that caused the Lutheran Church of Germany to vigorously endorse Adolph Hitler! The Lutheran Church of Germany actually issued a proclamation stating that God had placed Adolph Hitler in power to lead Germany back to greatness! So people, look at the horror of World War II and the blood of millions of innocent Jews and see the result of theologies that deny and run away from true spirituality, making God so transcendent, so detached and removed from His creation as to be functionally deist. And yes, I should point out that Hitler did murder homosexuals in his concentration camps too! People, be not deceived, Hitler was not evil because he hated homosexuals. Hitler hated homosexuals because he was evil!

    So, a person that honestly believes in the spirit realm, sin and righteousness, good and evil has no problem accepting the fact that sin can and does cause physical changes in people. I am not merely talking about how alcohol abuse can destroy your liver, or gluttony can give you cardiopulmonary disease, though that certainly is true. I am stating that the spiritual effects of sin can and does have a tangible effect on a person’s biology, and moreover that said tangible effects can be passed onto one’s offspring. Again, go back to Adam! Why did eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil cause his death? Was it arsenic, strychnine, ricin, or some other poison? Did it contain anthrax, ebola, or some other pathogen? If so, it certainly took a mighty long time to work, didn’t it, because Adam lived to be 900, and spent a great deal of that time having children! And also, that would not explain how the ricin or the anthrax got into Adam’s children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, and so on! No, there was nothing intrinsically harmful about the fruit itself. The Bible even says that it was good for food! The only issue was that God told them not to eat it. The death that entered Adam and the entire creation was the physical effects of sin. You know what? Medical science explains it. Our DNA, RNA, chromosomes, etc. are imperfect. We die because over time our body ceases to create enough healthy new cells to replace the cells that die, and we are also prone to conditions where malformed cells overtake and destroy healthy ones (i.e. cancer). That genetic defect has been passed on to every man born of Adam! And if the spiritual consequences of Adam’s sin had a physical manifestation back then, the spiritual consequences of our sins have physical consequences right now! 

    That is why Christians need not unconditionally reject the notion that some conditions, including homosexuality, may in fact be genetic. We should not be so quick to adopt the recent – and humanistic and ultimately Marxist – notion that everything is the result of free will and surroundings. If the effects of Adam’s sin are propagated throughout all humankind, why cannot the biological changes that result from sin be passed down? Doesn’t the Bible itself say so, that the effects of sin go from generation to generation? Even better: does not the Bible say that we are born in sin? Do not words MEAN things? Well, so – called Bible believing Christians know full well what being born in sin means. We know it, BUT WE DON’T WANT TO BELIEVE IT! That is why we are so willing to cast off what the Bible says in favor of the scientific, philosophical, and political imaginations that are products of minds that have specifically rejected Jesus Christ! I want someone to show me where it says in the Bible that anyone was a victim of their environment, surroundings, and circumstance. The one instance that I can think of, the infant son of wicked king Jeroboam that the sovereign God who predestines and elects knew was righteous, well God took that child out of that bad situation, didn’t He (1 Kings 14:12-14)? 

    That is why we as Christians have to get serious. Sin in the time of Adam, the flood, the patriarchs, Israel, etc. is the same as sin today. It has the same effect on the spirit, the same effect on the mind, and the same effect on THE BODY. We Christians have to eliminate from ourselves these worldly considerations that make it so easy to reject our faith and start to believe THE BIBLE. So, instead of wallowing in the filthy pit of the church of judge not touch mine anointed excuses, we have to consider the effects that sin has on our physical bodies. And since there is a thing called genetics, we have to consider the effects that our sin will have on the bodies of our CHILDREN and our GRANDCHILDREN and so on. What about the work of Jesus Christ who was wounded for our transgressions, bruised by our iniquities, and by and with His stripes we are healed? That is true for those who REPENT. REPENT does not just mean giving mental verbal intellectual assent to being a sinner and saying that you are sorry. That is “salvation prayer easy believism.” REPENT does not mean being truly legitimately heartbroken. That is deception. The best evidence of this is the Old Testament where after Israel provoked God in the wilderness, God REPENTED of His desire to destroy them. God didn’t say He was sorry. Why? What does a sovereign holy God have to apologize for? Who does He apologize to? Especially when it comes to His desire to destroy wickedness? And no, God did not destroy Israel 1000 times and just feel so horrible, terrible, and afflicted about it that He had to go to the confession box, talk to the priest, and say the rosaries and hail Marys. So what did it mean when God repented concerning destroying Israel? IT MEANS THAT HE DIDN’T DO IT! Repent isn’t the EMOTION of feeling sorry, it is the ACTION of turning aside, changing your path! So, for Jesus Christ to heal the sin effects present in your body by and with His stripes – with His work on the cross – you have to REPENT of your sins which means YOU HAVE TO END YOUR SINFUL LIFESTYLE. Modern theology says that you can keep sinning and be healed so long as you are “Godly sorry” each time you sin. THE BIBLE says that the Holy Spirit writes God’s law on your heart and gives you such an aversion to sin that painfully vexes you. Which one are you going to believe? 

    But the bottom line is that we should not be surprised when the sinful actions of people cause tangible physical outward signs that are not direct physical consequences of their behavior and otherwise cannot be explained. Honestly, what do you suppose all those references that Paul made to being delivered up and given over to all manners of corruption and wickedness actually means? People, in particular go study Romans 1:18-32, and instead of focusing only on the tidy neat inoffensive little notions acceptable not only to modern theology but also to the little theories of perverts like Sigmund Freud, Alfred Kinsey, and most who followed after them that this only applies to people’s behavior, minds, and character. No, look at those verses and consider that they mean for THE PHYSICAL BODY, and not just for individuals, but for people’s offsprings and entire cultures! Phrases like “corruptible man“, “gave them up to uncleanness“, “to dishonour their own bodies“, “gave them up unto vile affections“, “change the natural use into that which is against nature“, “leaving the natural use“, “men with men working that which is unseemly“, and the clearest example “receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.” Now I am not going to deny that this also does not refer to changes in mindset, morality, and character, but how can one deny that this also does not refer to the spiritual effects of sin changing the physical body to the point where it simply is physically not what it was prior? 

    If one accepts that sin is inherently unnatural to creation and as a result has effects far broader and greater than the mere direct and immediate consequences of the act – the Biblical view – then one should have no problem with this whatsoever. But if one takes on the modern, humanistic worldview that sin is more or less natural and therefore Christians should resign themselves to it and even tolerate it to a great degree – the “stop all the condemning, stop talking about what we are against and start talking about what we are for” mindset – then being confronted by medical science such as this can only leave you with two options.

    1. This is the bogus pseudo – scientific result of liberal agenda – driven politicians masquerading as people with Ph.D’s in biology, medicine, engineering, physics, etc. A conservative Republican family values Christian would have known to use only the “right” equipment and the “right” procedures and interpreted the data the “correct” way in order to get the “right” results that would have “scientifically proven” man’s free will. GOD FORBID THAT MEDICAL SCIENCE WOULD PROVE THE TOTAL DEPRAVITY OF MAN AND HOW BADLY MAN NEEDS THE HOLY SPIRIT TO INTERVENE IN ORDER FOR US TO BE SAVED! WELL GUESS WHAT SOPHISTICATED CHRISTIANS – SCIENCE HAS ALREADY DONE IT WITH BABIES! SO WHY CANNOT SCIENCE DEMONSTRATE THE TOTAL DEPRAVITY OF MAN WITH ADULT PRACTICING HOMOSEXUALS? (I am supposing that theological sophisticates are waiting for scientific results that would tend to confirm Pelagianism or Arminianism?) Of course, I am not saying that agenda – driven sham science does not exist: evolution is bogus for instance. But Christians have NO CASE for dismissing these findings until the science behind it is investigated. That has been the case with evolution: Christians have studied the science, forced even leading evolutionists to acknowledge that it is a sham, and as a result evolutionists have had no recourse other than to make it illegal to even mention the holes in evolution in public schools and universities and research labs have actually stopped hiring and admitting Christians into research programs. But in this instance, Christians need to investigate the science before they say that it contradicts the Bible. As it is, the only reason for claiming that these results violate the Bible in the first place is because modern theology presents a functional deism where the spiritual is replaced by the secular, the acts of God are replaced by the acts of man, and this creates a Christian mindset that is much more accommodating to amillennialism, dominionism, reconstructionism, and SIN.

    2. Or you can decide “hey, well this proves that the gay rights activists like Soulforce and the Human Rights Campaign and Act Up are right, so we have to accept that modern science and ethics have proven the Bible to be wrong.” 

    Both options are, of course, unacceptable to me. Instead, the route that I choose is one that the Bible has makes plain from Genesis 3: the spiritual effects of sin causes changes in the natural world, including but not limited to twisting, deforming, and setting at odds with its natural purpose the bodies of men. Think about it: the corruption of man and beast and the earth itself due to sin caused God to destroy the world with the flood! Similar to Romans 1, take a look at Genesis 6! “The earth also was corrupt before God.” “And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.” “And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.” “And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.” But here is the clincher: “There were giants in the earth in those days.” Do you realize that there is an emerging consensus in the evangelical scholarly community that the giants of Genesis 6 merely referred to arrogant tribal rulers? Never mind that the exact same Hebrew word in that passage was used in Numbers 13:13, the giants of the sons of Anak. What did Israel say? “Compared to those GIANTS we look like GRASSHOPPERS! We can’t defeat them in battle, so we aren’t going to go in the Promised Land!” I guess “we are grasshoppers compared to them” was just a figure of speech; they were simply speaking of how mighty the tribal kings were. So I guess these Anakite kings were supposed to be mightier than PHAROAH OF EGYPT or something? So if they were grasshoppers before the Anakite kings, what was Israel before pharoah, who ruled the most powerful nation in the world? Amoebas? It sounds like to me that these leading evangelical scholars are doing all that they can to deny that sin really is and what sin really does. Which is precisely why I am certain that since these great respected theologians cannot take position 1) above and retain their esteemed positions in the academy, the day is soon coming that findings like this will make position 2) will be their only recourse. And the question is … when that day comes, will you go also with them? Or will you go with the Bible and those of us that believe in what it actually says and means? 

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    Should A Christian Issue Marriage Certificates To Homosexual Couples?

    Posted by Job on June 9, 2008

    This post by a bunch of Jesus Christ – hating Barack HUSSEIN Obama supporters (a site that oozes hatred for Jesus Christ and Christians all over it) over California court clerks refusing to process GOVERNMENT marriage certificates for homosexuals makes me wonder. I say that a Christian should not perform an abortion unless it is done to save the life of the mother, and under no circumstances should a Christian give out RU – 486. I think that there should be conscience clauses to keep Christians from having to be murderers in the course of having to earn a living in their chosen profession, although the Jesus Christ haters oppose such clauses precisely so they can drive Christians out of the medical profession … I should point out that Barack HUSSEIN Obama’s state of Illinois passed laws requiring pharmacists to dispense RU – 486, so we know where he stands on this issue. John McCain? Well suffice to say that in his 26 years as a Congressman or Senator, he has never once proposed a federal law keeping doctors, pharmacists, and nurses from being forced to choose between committing murder and keeping their jobs despite the fact that such a measure would have passed by a large margin and easily upheld by the Supreme Court. (The fact that Republicans, despite controlling either Congress or the White House and sometimes both since 1980, have never so much as added this item to their agenda proves that they never were a pro – life party, and if that doesn’t prove it then the fact that they have given just as much federal money to Planned Parenthood clinics that JUST HAPPEN to be frequently located in the areas that Barack HUSSEIN Obama used to be a community organizer.)

    But not being a murderer – or a knowing accomplice to murder – is an easy clear cut issue. But what if you are an employee in the county clerk office?  Should you refuse to issue marriage licenses to homosexual couples in this case? To me that is more of a gray area. Of a certainty the Bible declares homosexuality to be not only a sin but an abomination. But people are going to sin! As America is not Old Testament Israel (and the concept of a “Christian nation” is a contradiction that can be spotted by anyone who reads the New Testament for himself instead of having it interpreted to him by any member of the religious right or left) we are not called to personally hinder people from sinning if it is their desire to do so. Such is not the job of the Christian individual or the church, AND IT ESPECIALLY IS NOT THE JOB OF THE STATE. Instead, the job of Christian individual and the Christian church is to work to prevent sinners from hurting innocent people, and to influence the state to do the same. So yes, abortion murders innocent people, and street crime has the same effect. Thank you Christian right for pointing that out. But then again, so do unjust wars and unjust economic and corporate policies as well as government corruption and white collar crime. Thank you Christian left for pointing that out. Do negative cultural conditions i.e. illegitimacy and drug use create the climate for crime and abortions? Yes, Christian right. But do negative economic conditions also? Yes Christian left. So ultimately, once you get past A. I will not perform an abortion B. I will not dispense RU – 486 and C. I will not knowingly sell a handgun to a suicidal or otherwise mentally unstable person or to a criminal (sorry NRA, and sorry to you too gun grabbers because that is the start and finish of my gun control position) it really is a huge gray area. 

    After all, do not think that you will somehow prevent homosexuality by refusing to give someone a marriage license. Even without their behavior sanctioned and legitimized by the anti – Christ state, such people can and will do what they please. How is that different from “a woman who wants an abortion will be able to get one anyway?” Simple: if you give an abortion or dispense RU – 486, that is you committing murder or being an accomplice to one. (Yes, abortion makes criminals out of women and their doctors, to answer the PR challenge of pro – abortion groups.) But does giving out a marriage license to homosexual couples endorse or aid their sins? I will say … well … no more than being a clerk at a convenience store does, where you will sell alcohol, lottery tickets, cigarettes, pornographic magazines, condoms, and who knows what else. (Full disclosure: I worked at a convenience store in a low income area for a brief time and had to quit; I could not take it anymore. But I followed that up with a job at an, er, leading retailer whose entire business strategy is enticing the poor/lonely/depressed/desperate to waste their hard – earned money on worthless merchandise in a vain attempt to buy happiness. Aaaah, retail …) 

    I have to say that our society has come a long way from the days when A) motels and inns regularly refused to lodge unmarried men and women in the same room and B) if you could find a motel or inn that would allow you and an unmarried woman to lodge in the same room, IN MANY AREAS IF YOU BY CHANCE OR ACCIDENT REGISTERED YOUR FEMALE COMPANION UNDER YOUR SURNAME SHE WOULD BE LEGALLY CONSIDERED YOUR COMMON – LAW WIFE! Does it mean that our society is less externally moral? Clearly in some ways, yes. But in other ways, no … many of the hotels that would not lodge unmarried men and women in the same room would not lodge black people at all! So the question that we should ask ourselves is not whether our nation at any time was more moral or had better “Christian values” but instead whether our nation at any time had more born again regenerated Christians. Many older people that I talk to, including people who experienced the brunt of our nation’s race and class unfairness, insist that it was. I have no choice but to accept their word for that. But even in that context, the very idea that a nation can have the majority of its citizens be legitimately born again and itself be a moral, righteous, and just society plainly violates everything that the New Testament says. Otherwise, there would be nations – not just individuals but nations – left out of the great judgment against the earth in Revelation. This is not to say that some nations cannot be more decent and moral than others: America is not communist China. But actually legitimately moral? I am sorry, but the Bible directly consistently speaks against it. Otherwise, there would have been no reason for the Bible to say the world hates and has rejected Jesus Christ, and that we are not to put our trust in the things of this world or to be conformed to it.

    So the question is this: if the political and legal systems of a city, state, or nation make gay marriage legal – and that does reflect the fallen sinful state of that state or nation regardless of what people indoctrinated from little children into believing that it is a Christian nation; you know our “Christian” FREEMASON, ENLIGHTENMENT, UNITARIAN, and DEIST founding fathers and the whole “pledge of allegiance” in GOVERNMENT schools … teaching VALUES and ETHICS and CULTURE in place of Jesus Christ … regardless of what people indoctrinated in that stuff choose to believe – then what good does refusing to carry out the duties of your job as a representative of the state (or an employee of a corporation) do? Refuse to perform an abortion or hand out RU – 486 (or sell a handgun to someone that has no business having one), and you are refusing to be or participate in murder or any other crime against the innocent. But if the state makes homosexual marriage legal, if you as an employee of the state refuse to give a homosexual couple a license, in my opinion that makes you a subversive insubordinate guilty of violating Romans 13. You don’t agree with civil rights laws concerning homosexuals in this instance? Sorry, but it is the law, and so long as the law does not require you to knowingly harm an innocent person, you have no Biblical justification for breaking it. Otherwise, it is not as if you are sharing the gospel with people. Instead, all you are doing is attempting to impose your will on them. Truthfully, since you have no legitimate interest in these people as individuals – or else you would share the gospel with them – you are actually trying to impose your views on society itself. By trying to coerce either individuals or society to conform to your will rather than to the Will of God as expressed in the Bible, you are sinning. Not only is coercion inherently a sin, but people are not obey God, not you. You are to have no undue influence over anyone that God, your pastor, the state, or your employer has not placed you in a position of authority over. You are disobeying 2 Corinthians 10:2-3 and fighting a secular battle using secular means rather than fighting a spiritual battle with spiritual means. The result is wasted effort that will do no good and possibly do harm. 

    If you cannot abide that, then you will just have to quit your job. If you do, good luck finding a job where you won’t have to work for, with, among, or in service to sinners … not only homosexuals but adulterers, fornicators, gossips, liars, thieves, idolators, gluttons, false Christians, you name it. So I say rather than making a show of yourself for refusing to perform your duties in a manner that you promised to when you were hired, and making a public demonstration of quitting your job to show the world how righteous you presume yourself to be by refusing to tolerate certain sinners in the course of doing your job while not only tolerating other sinners at that same job but in many cases in your own church, I say keep your job and do it like a Christian, and that means showing the love for sinners – including homosexuals – that Jesus Christ did.

    Bottom line: the world is not the church. The government is not the church. America is not the church. Were it not for the ability of the religious left to deceive people otherwise on “social justice issues” and the religious right to deceive people otherwise with their “family values issues” – and no, none of those have anything more to do with the actual purpose and ministry of Jesus Christ than the other – then we would not have most of these problems. 

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    Gay Marriage Ruling: 6 Of California’s 7 Supreme Court Justices Are Republican

    Posted by Job on May 16, 2008

    The guy who wrote the majority opinion was a former Reagan appointee. See link. I still hope that at some point the religious right will wake up and realize that the Republican Party is just distracting them from spreading the gospel, helping the poor, advocating for justice, etc.; using politics to get Christians to invest themselves in this world instead of concentrating on the next one. Even if it is possible to change nations and transform cultures, it can only be done with evangelism and revivals that promote the love and transforming power of salvation through Jesus Christ, not flocking to the ballot box to put people like Reagan, Gingrich, Bush, etc. in office. 

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    On Barack HUSSEIN Obama’s Apostate Pastor Jeremiah Wright

    Posted by Job on March 17, 2008

    *By Pastor Bill Keller of Live Prayer. By the way, it was Keller that tipped me off to the fact that Oprah Winfrey had been a member of this “church” months ago, although the Los Angeles Times now claims that she stopped going. Interesting that people are just now coming around to this “story” AFTER Barack HUSSEIN Obama has all but wrapped up the Democratic nomination, as I dealt with this over a year ago: Lots Of Good Stuff On Barack HUSSEIN Obama’s September 11th – Justifying Church. Ah well. As Howard University graduate Jeremiah Wright is a liberation theology preacher, please read my entry The True Liberation Theology. As far as those of you that wish to claim that I have political motives for posting this devotional or attacking Barack HUSSEIN Obama in general, allow me to say that I personally see no substantive difference between Obama, Clinton, or McCain, and my position is that a Christian should not vote for any of them. I ran across the other day where Martin Luther stated that it was better to be governed by a wise Turk (Muslim) than a foolish Christian. That seems to fit the writings of Paul in Romans 13, especially when you consider the context: Rome was hardly a Christian or godly empire in any sense, yet Paul wrote to submit to proper authorities because all authority comes from God. But Obama, Clinton, and McCain do not meet the standards of “wise Turk” (or wise anything for that matter, let alone decent, moral, honest, truthful, etc.) in my humble estimation. Maybe the Constitution or Libertarian. I cannot consider the Green Party nominee Ralph Nader for regrettably he is pro – abortion.
    (Acts 17:26,27, Rom. 10:11-13)
    What kind of pastor condones the sin of homosexuality, killing babies, and preaches a gospel of racial division? The pastor for 20 years and spiritual mentor of Democratic Presidential candidate B. Hussein Obama! I found it amusing the past few days that all of the news media is focusing on the racially divisive and anti-American rhetoric of Dr. Jeremiah Wright, who for over 3 decades was the Senior Pastor of the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, Illinois.For those who have been reading the Daily Devotional and/or watching the Liveprayer television program, I have told you about Dr. Wright for many years now, since he pastors the church Oprah called home and Senator Obama has been part of for the past 2 decades.Dr. Wright not only married Senator Obama and his wife and christened their 2 children, but he has also been the spiritual mentor to the Senator and helped shape his theological beliefs. He has been prominent in the news the past few days because the public has been horrified after being exposed to his racist and anti-American views that he has espoused for over 30 years in his church.

    In trying to do damage control Friday, Senator Obama ended any affiliation Dr. Wright had with his Presidential campaign and the Senator went on numerous news programs stating that he was not aware Dr. Wright held these views. B. Hussein Obama is a liar!

    As many of you know, I started my ministry in the city of Chicago in 1992.
    Two of the members of my Board of Directors who have been with me since day one, are both black pastors of churches on the south side of Chicago. I
    have had the joy and privilege to preach in several dozen black churches in
    the Chicagoland area in the early days of my ministry. Anyone who has had
    ANY dealing with the churches in Chicago know who Dr. Jeremiah Wright is and that he preaches a gospel of black separatism with anti-American views.

    In theological circles it is known as “black liberation theology,” a perverse theology originally taught by James Cone that seeks to contribute to the liberation of black people from the perceived racism in the country and in Christianity.

    Please hear me very clear. Black liberation theology is a perverse view of the Scriptures and the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It is a radical view held by a very small minority of black pastors. This is NOT representative of the black church or the overwhelming majority of black pastors who preach and teach the true Gospel of Jesus Christ without looking at it through the lens of color. Every black pastor I know condemns Dr. Wright and this perverse racist theology.

    Sadly, to the non-churched masses and to white Americans who have little or no exposure to the black church, seeing and hearing Dr. Wright’s radical views of the world and the Scriptures, will cause them to assume this is the position held by all black churches. (My note: some black people in their zeal to defend Obama are stating precisely that.) Again, Dr. Wright is in a very small minority of pastors who hold to these perverted views and this is NOT representative of the black church or Christians who happen to be black.

    Having said that, let me reiterate that B. Hussein Obama is a liar when he says he was not aware of these beliefs held by his pastor. That is impossible since everyone in Chicago knows about Dr. Wright and his radical and racially divisive theology. His teachings attracted many young, upwardly mobile, successful blacks who agree with his views on race and social issues. They joined his church not only for the spiritual experience,
    but for the networking opportunities it provided. (My note: sadly, making them no different from most Christians regardless of race or theology.)

    It was the perfect church home for Senator Obama, who had no Christian background or Biblical upbringing, and was a rising star in the Daley political machine in Chicago, It was the perfect church home and message for Senator Obama who was dealing with the social and economic challenges of blacks on the south side of Chicago early in his political career.

    The United Church of Christ is a predominantly white and very liberal denomination that supports and condones sins like homosexuality and women killing their babies.
    Like many liberal denominations, it focuses on the
    “social gospel,” dealing with the economically poor rather than the spiritually poor. (My note: although the Bible tells us to deal with the economically poor as well, it is both not either or, do not turn aside from God’s commandments to the right or to the left!) These types of churches focus on the financially down and out and needy, using the parts of the Bible that speak to helping those who are less fortunate, while brushing over the passages that speak to living a life holy and acceptable to God in accordance with His Word. This is where Senator Obama comes up with the laughable notion that the Sermon on the Mount teaches homosexuality is an acceptable choice as he recently stated in the news. In his bid for the White House, B. Hussein Obama has received great support from those in the gay and lesbian community since he will champion their desire to make gay marriage legal in all 50 states and to break down all barriers to gay adoption, as well as other issues favorable to giving those who choose to commit the sin of homosexuality special rights.Senator Obama also supports the legalizes slaughter of babies. He has been 100% consistent in his political career both in the Illinois Senate and the United States Senate, to support the legalized practice of infanticide. I wonder how he can go home at night, look at his two precious little girls, yet vote to support the legalized murder of babies. Again, this is all in line with the liberal theology and social gospel teachings of his pastor and church for the past 20 years.

    I say that any “pastor” and any “church” that supports slaughtering babies should never be referred to with those names. How can you call yourself a pastor, how can a church call itself a church, how can a person honestly call themselves a follower of Jesus Christ, and support a woman making the decision to kill her baby? That is inconsistent with the teachings of Christ and the Bible, and even most hard hearted heathens who deny the existence of God understands that it is murder!

    I love you and care about you so much. My guess is that Senator Obama will soon leave Trinity UCC to appease his political detractors. The fact is, he is 20 years too late. He, like ALL who are part of that church and most who are not part of Trinity, knew of the perverse theology and racist, anti-American views of Dr. Jeremiah Wright. This is not revelation to anyone in Chicago. I have told you about Dr. Wright and that church for
    many years now.

    Senator Obama has to make the same decision we all have to make. It was Jesus who said you can’t serve two masters. Is our master Jesus or do we serve another master? If Jesus is his master, Senator Obama needs to denounce the sin of homosexuality and take a stand for life. If politics is his master, he will continue to support these sins.

    At some point, each person has to decide if you love Jesus or if you love this world. We make that decision many times throughout the day when we choose to obey God or disobey Him. If we say we love the Lord, we will obey Him. If we say we love the Lord and disobey Him, we obviously don’t love Him enough since it was Jesus who said, “If you love Me, you will obey Me.” I pray today that Senator Obama will love Jesus enough to obey Him, and I pray that you and I will love Him enough to obey Him.

    In His love and service,
    Your friend and brother in Christ,
    Bill Keller bkeller@liveprayer.com
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    Pat Robertson’s China Bans Visitors To Olympics From Bringing Bibles!

    Posted by Job on November 9, 2007

    First, see the post

    Pat Robertson Promoting The Chinese Government

    to see why Pat Robertson endorsing pro – abortion pro – gay rights cross – dressing fascist Rudolph Giuliani is really no surprise. After that, see the video below to see why Pat Robertson’s claims that the persecution that China is placing on its citizens is overstated and misunderstood, and that the gospel is really spreading in STATE APPROVED CHURCHES THAT PREACH A NEW AGE PROSPERITY SELF ESTEEM PURPOSE DRIVEN FALSE GOSPEL THAT DOES NOT EMPHASIZE OR CENTER AROUND JESUS CHRIST!

    Posted in abortion, Bible, China, Christian Persecution, fascism, Mitt Romney, Pat Robertson, Rudy Giuliani | Tagged: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 6 Comments »

     
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