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Rick Warren And The New Evangelical Social Gospel

Posted by Job on December 21, 2008

I am trying to come up with something on Rick Warren’s speaking at the Obama inauguration that goes beyond the new world order Council on Foreign Relations one world religion implications that I have discussed in the past. In the meantime, please consider this piece on the matter from Beliefnet.com. Now I have staked out the most extreme position on Warren, which is that he is not a legitimate Christian pastor, and that the Southern Baptist Convention should have long ago severed ties with the fellow. Perusing the reaction to this story, I am becoming aware of how rare, indeed marginal, my estimation of Warren is.

Rick Warren on Loving Muslims and Melissa Etheridge (Report by Juan Cole)

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George W. Bush To Attend Religious Universalism Summit. Evangelicals Who Would Trash Bill Clinton or Barack Obama For Doing The Same Where Are You?

Posted by Job on November 1, 2008

Note: this is more evidence still that the “Christian values” movement is simply a universalist works religion. You have the Orthodox Jews, Roman Catholics, and evangelicals basically making up the religious right and you have the liberal pluralists and universalists (as well as those who basically deny a literal afterlife) making up the religious left, and all are united by a common ethical and cultural worldview, not a religious one. In other words, it is the social gospel left against the social gospel right, but it is still the social gospel. And at its root it is – you guessed it – freemasonry which has always A) denied the divinity and work of Jesus Christ and B) while not denying a supreme being or creator always nonetheless promoted an ethical system that will unite humanity (of course with certain humans, mainly freemason leaders, ultimately being in benevolent control). Of course, freemasonry is not nearly the only group that believes this, and they are also not the first. But again, it is mighty revealing that the same religious right leaders that sounded the alarm when Bill Clinton used to attend and promote religious pluralism at events like these won’t raise a peep about the first president to pray in a Muslim mosque George W. Bush. But let Barack HUSSEIN Obama win the White House and these same people will insist that Obama “is trying to destroy our Biblical Christian heritage” by attending meetings like these. And again, that is why a great part of me is convinced that John McCain will ultimately win. It will be far easier for the former Episcopalian who actually asked a leader of the Southern Baptist Convention if being rebaptized as a Southern Baptist would help him win the GOP primary (he was told no by the fellow who incidentally was also advising Mormon Mitt Romney!) to bring evangelical Christians closer to this than Barack Obama. Seriously, hearing religious right talk radio give unqualified endorsement to John and Sidney McCain’s background and character … well again it will be much easier for McCain to continue to lead the religious right further into the darkness of hypocrisy and willing blindness. If anything, an Obama win would probably mean that the job is finished already, and there is nothing left for McCain to do in that area. 

Bush to Attend U.N. Conference on Religions, Cultures

UNITED NATIONS — President Bush will join several other world leaders at a General Assembly meeting to promote a global dialogue about religions, cultures and common values, U.N. and U.S. officials said Friday.

The meeting is a follow-up to an interfaith conference in Madrid organized by King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia and King Juan Carlos of Spain in July which brought together Jews, Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists and representatives of other religions and sparked hopes of a new relationship among religions.

General Assembly President Miguel d’Escoto Brockmann has sent invitations to all 192 U.N. member states to the high-level meeting on Nov. 12-13 and expects at least 20 or 30 world leaders to attend, his spokesman Enrique Yeves said. Bush will attend on Nov. 13, U.N. and U.S. officials said.

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said Bush “remains committed to fostering interfaith harmony among all religions, both at home and abroad.” She said Bush also plans to meet separately with Abdullah.

D’Escoto believes the initiative “should be broadened to talking not only about religions but about cultures, about all the common values we have,” Yeves said. “He would like that we talk not only about dialogue, but about joining forces in order to work together with all these common values to address the major issues that we are facing right now in the world,” Yeves said.

Abdullah, whose country bans non-Muslims from openly practicing their religion, has called for religious tolerance and said such dialogue is the duty of every human being.

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Did The Pentecostal Prosperity Doctrine And TBN Cause The Financial Crisis?

Posted by Job on October 3, 2008

Foreward: please note that the Bible DOES NOT PROMOTE reckless financial behavior, but quite the contrary promotes hard work, frugality, and conscientiousness. Contrast the ostentatious wealth of King Solomon – who left God for syncretism – with Jesus Christ, who was born in a manger and lived the life of a pauper. And as for you prosperity preacher adherents, well, you wanted to be world changers, right? To take authority and dominion? Well, it looks like you did it. Your doctrines helped cause the international banking crisis that just may set the stage for the anti – Christ to come to power. By the way, sorry for picking on Palin, because TONS of black prosperity doctrine preachers have gotten behind Obama as well. You know, it makes for the perfect conspiracy theory.

All of these Council on Foreign Relations – backed preachers get on TV – especially if they own networks like TBN – or dominate the book publishing market (Left Behind) or even get mainstream publicity (like TD Jakes on the cover of Time Magazine – which ironically published this article ) which exploit the poor with false promises of wealth. Then have the same Council on Foreign Relations – connected politicians (Bush Sr., Bush Jr., Clinton, Gingrich at minimum) change the banking laws, requiring/forcing banks to lend to these people. And when the inevitable economic collapse occurs (which by the way was just the result of terrible economic policy dating back to at least Reagan … remember how the Democrats AND Republicans exhorted you to go buy an SUV and invest your retirement accounts in Pets.com in the 1990s … and that speaks nothing of deficit spending and free trade deals with third world countries where people will gladly work for $5 a day) then use it as an excuse to practically nationalize the banking sector and promote economic globalism. If this WASN’T a conspiracy, it certainly played out like one. In any event, now you see how massively evil false doctrines are, and the prosperity doctrine is both false and evil.

Foreclosures: Did God Want You to Get That Mortgage? 

or “God caused the bank to ignore my credit score and blessed me with my first house.” 

Has the so-called Prosperity Gospel turned its followers into some of the most willing participants — and hence, victims — of the current financial crisis? That’s what a scholar of the fast-growing brand of pentecostal Christianity believes. While researching a book on black televangelism, says Jonathan Walton, a religion professor at the University of California Riverside, he realized that Prosperity’s central promise — that God would “make a way” for poor people to enjoy the better things in life — had developed an additional, toxic expression during sub-prime boom. Walton says that this encouraged congregants who got dicey mortgages to believe “God caused the bank to ignore my credit score and blessed me with my first house.” The results, he says, “were disastrous, because they pretty much turned parishioners into prey for greedy brokers.”
Others think he may be right. Says Anthea Butler, an expert in pentecostalism at the University of Rochester in New York state, “The pastor’s not gonna say ‘go down to Wachovia and get a loan’ but I have heard, ‘even if you have a poor credit rating God can still bless you — if you put some faith out there [that is, make a big donation to the church], you’ll get that house, or that car or that apartment.'” Adds J. Lee Grady, editor of the magazine Charisma, “It definitely goes on, that a preacher might say, ‘if you give this offering, God will give you a house. And if they did get the house, people did think that it was an answer to prayer, when in fact it was really bad banking policy.” If so, the situation offers a look at how an native-born faith built partially on American econoic optimism entered into a toxic symbiosis with a pathological market.

Although a type of Pentecostalism, Prosperity theology adds a distinctive layer of supernatural positive thinking. Adherents will reap rewards if they prove their faith to God by contributing heavily to their churches, remaining mentally and verbally upbeat, and concentrating on divine promises of worldly bounty supposedly strewn throughout the bible. Critics call it a thinly disguised pastor-enrichment scam. Other experts, like Walton, note that for all its faults, it can empower people who have been taught to see themselves as financially or even culturally useless to feel they are “worthy of having more and doing more and being more.” (Sure, if you forget about the Bible says that the Holy Spirit, God the Father,and Jesus Christ are supposed to comfort and reassure us. Blessed are the poor for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.) In some cases the philosophy has matured with its practitioners, encouraging good financial habits and entrepreneurship.

But Walton suggests that a decade’s worth of ever-easier credit acted like drug in Prosperity’s bloodstream. “The economic boom 90’s and financial over-extensions of the new millennium contributed to the success of the prosperity message,” he wrote recently. And not positively. “Narratives of how ‘God blessed me with my first house despite my credit’ were common. Sermons declaring ‘it’s your season to overflow’ supplanted messages of economic sobriety,” and “little attention was paid to.. the dangers of using one’s home equity as an ATM to subsidize cars, clothes and vacations.”

With the bubble burst, Walton and Butler assume that prosperity congregants have taken a disproportionate hit, and are curious as to how their churches will respond. Butler thinks that some of the flashier ministries will shrink along with their congregants’ fortunes. Says Walton, “You would think that the current economic conditions would undercut their theology.” But he predicts they will perservere, since God’s earthly largesse is just as attractive when one is behind the economic eight ball.

A recently posted testimony by a congregant at the Brownsville Assembly of God near Pensacola, Fla., seems to confirm his intuition. Brownsville is not even a classic Prosperity congregation — it relies more on the anointing of its pastors than on scriptural promises of God. But the believer’s note to his minister illustrates how magical thinking can prevail even after the mortgage blade has dropped. “Last Sunday,” it read, “You said if anyone needed a miracle to come up. So I did. I was receiving foreclosure papers, so I asked you to anoint a picture of my home and you did and your wife joined with you in prayer as I cried. I went home feeling something good was going to happen. On Friday the 5th of September I got a phone call from my mortgage company and they came up with a new payment for the next 3 months of only $200. My mortgage is usually $1020. Praise God for his Mercy & Grace.”

And pray that the credit market doesn’t tighten any further.

Some videos that speak of the error of these doctrines.

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Megachurch Pastor Rick Warren Calls for a Second Reformation Based On Works!

Posted by Job on September 30, 2008

Note: Rick Warren is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. His statements here are similar to what Council on Foreign Relations – affiliated T.D. Jakes said a few months ago, see TD Jakes: “saving souls can wait” on Gay Christian Movement Watch.

Megachurch Pastor Rick Warren Calls for a Second Reformation

Rick Warren, a megachurch pastor and philanthropist who is courted by political leaders worldwide, says he thinksChristianity needs a “second Reformation” that would steer the church away from divisive politics and be “about deeds, not creeds.”

Speaking today to a group of Washington Post reporters and editors, the evangelical author said he had an “epiphany” in recent years due to his wife’s battle with cancer and the success of his book, “The Purpose Driven Life,” which has sold more than 25 million copies. Humbled and scared, he said he decided to focus on helping the needy and the sick, particularly those with AIDS.

That meant advocating for a broader agenda for evangelicals beyond same-sex marriage and bioethical issues like abortion and stem cell research. That’s a shift from the e-mail Warren sent before the 2004 election to his regular distribution list of 136,000 pastors, telling them to focus on those hot-button issues, which he called “non-negotiables.”

Warren said he now regrets that e-mail — not because he’s changed his views in opposing abortion and same-sex marriage, but because he places them on a longer list of priorities.

Now, he says, he wants to promote personal responsibility and restore civility in American culture.

“I just think we’re becoming too rude,” he said. “You have no right to demonize someone just because you disagree with them.”

Changing the culture, he said, is not done only through politics but also through things like art, music and sports.

“Outside the Beltway politics is just not that important. No kid in America has a poster of a politician on their wall,” he said.

Warren, whose ministry has trained a half-million pastors, said partnerships between government and industry can’t succeed in solving social problems unless they include faith groups, with their large volunteer forces and their worldwide networks.

“People are so worried churches are going to be about conversion,” he said, “but everyone has a motive. Everyone has a world view. Christianity is a world view. . . . I don’t care why you do good as long as you do good.”

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Rick Warren Basically Stating That Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, And Christians All Worship The Same God

Posted by Job on September 30, 2008

Rick Warren, Interfaith Activist

Rick Warren is our new Billy Graham – at the center of not only his own Christian tradition, but of American civil religion as well. Churches follows his direction (most recently into Rwanda), and political candidates seek his blessing (Exhibit A: The Saddleback Forum).

There has been a lot of talk about the risks that Warren has taken – inviting the pro-choice Obama to address a decidedly pro-life gathering on the topic of AIDS, for example.

Another risk he is taking – more subtle, perhaps, but equally profound – is around religious diversity. 

Last week at the Clinton Global Initiative, Warren was asked how “the church” could help to solve poverty. His response was to rattle off the numbers of Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims and Christians in the world – in that order – and make a plea that the public and private sectors take seriously “the faith sector as the third leg of the stool of successful development”.

Warren consistently used the language of a religious pluralist. He spoke of “mosques, temples and churches” as central to the life of villages in the developing world. He underscored the fact that there are huge numbers of people of faith in the world, and huge numbers of houses of worship in places where clinics, banks and schools don’t exist. Those people of faith can be trained to be the arms and legs of any development plan, and those houses of worship can double as clinics, banks and schools.

This is a big deal, because it signals an important turn in the American Evangelical tradition – from viewing people of other faiths primarily as lost souls requiring conversion to viewing them as partners in the plan to make earth more humane and just. “Progressive Evangelicals” like Jim Wallis, Brian McLaren and Tony Campolo (read an interview here with Campolo on interfaith cooperation), have long been involved in interfaith efforts, but the mainline of that tradition has always been more wary. That could be changing.

I caught up with Warren after the panel and asked him directly how he thought about religious diversity. He talked to me about his friendship with his Muslim neighbor, and about how excited he was to speak at the upcoming MPAC conference in December. He was keenly aware of the important role that Muslims played in helping victims during the genocide in Rwanda, and he was engaging that community in his current efforts in that country.

That approach is American pragmatism at its best: a visionary leader engaging all possible partners in his plan to transform earth.

When I asked Warren to name something that he admired about Muslims, he answered without hesitation: “you people are not afraid to talk about God, he said with a smile. It’s always, ‘God willing’, or ‘God bless’, or ‘Thanks be to God.’ That’s something I admire, because I come from the same place.”

That is American religion at its best. Let’s hope the church and the country follow.

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Jeffrey Garten, Former Kissinger Policy Planner, CFR Member, Nixon And Clinton Administration Figure, Lehman Brothers Director, Calls For New Global Monetary Authority

Posted by Job on September 28, 2008

Former Wall Street exec wants bailout and more… much much more

Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Friday, Sept 26, 2008

A Council on Foreign Relations member and former policy planner under prominent Bilderberger Henry Kissinger has penned a piece in the Financial Times of London calling for a “new global monetary authority” that would have the power to monitor all national financial authorities and all large global financial companies.

“Even if the US’s massive financial rescue operation succeeds, it should be followed by something even more far-reaching – the establishment of a Global Monetary Authority to oversee markets that have become borderless.” writes Jeffrey Garten, also a former managing director of Lehman Brothers.

Garten, now a professor of business at Yale, served on the policy planning staff of Kissinger during his time as Secretary of State. He also served on the White House Council on International Economic Policy under the Nixon administration and went on to become the Undersecretary of Commerce for International Trade under Bill Clinton.

Citing “globalization”, A “clash of philosophies” and the “vacuum at the centre” of the current global institutional apparatus, Garten describes his vision for a new monolithic world authority to oversee all financial activity around the globe.

Here are some of the highlights (emphasis added):

A GMA (global monetary authority) would be a reinsurer or discounter for certain obligations held by central banks. It would scrutinise the regulatory activities of national authorities with more teeth than the IMF has and oversee the implementation of a limited number of global regulations. It would monitor global risks and establish an effective early warning system with more clout to sound alarms than the BIS has.

It would act as “bankruptcy court” for financial reorganisations of global companies above a certain size. The biggest global financial companies would have to register with the GMA and be subject to its monitoring, or be blacklisted. That includes commercial companies and banks, but also sovereign wealth funds, gigantic hedge funds and private equity firms.

The GMA’s board would have to include central bankers not just from the US, UK, the eurozone and Japan, but also China, Saudi Arabia and Brazil. It would be financed by mandatory contributions from every capable country and from insurance-type premiums from global financial companies – publicly listed, government owned, and privately held alike.

In a conclusion that smacks of problem, reaction, solution Garten adds “In terms of US and international politics, a Global Monetary Authority is probably an idea whose time has not yet come. That may change as today’s crisis evolves.”

What he describes is nothing less than a global financial dictatorship, operating across borders and forcing nations and corporations to register and adhere to strict monitoring and obey the same regulations. The implementation of such a system would represent total interventionism and the absolute final nail in the coffin of the free market.

Garten’s call for a GMA echoes a piece published in the FT back in June by Timothy Geithner, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

Fresh from attending the Bilderberg conference in Chantilly, Virginia, Geithner called for a globalized banking system with “appropriate requirements for capital and liquidity”.

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Rick Warren Writes Foreward For Book That Promotes JUDAISM

Posted by Job on September 23, 2008

Of course, if it was a book promoting Islam or Hinduism, his defenders (who use a double standard to tolerate things from the Southern Baptist that they never would from a Pentecostal) would finally start to stand up to what this fellow’s real agenda is. But since he sticks to the culturally safe falsehoods for western chauvinists like Judaism, Mormonism, and Roman Catholicism, no one says a peep. The biggest trouble that Warren ever got into wasn’t even related to theology, but for trying to rehabilitate the image of North Korea and Syria. It just shows the mindset of so many political and cultural Christians.

www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2008-09-22-rabbi-wolpe-why-faith-matters_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip

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Alan Greenspan Says Give The State More Power Over Banks!

Posted by Job on September 9, 2008

Alan Greenspan works in the Republican Bush administration. Alan Greenspan works in the Democratic Clinton administration. Both Clinton and Bush are in the Council on Foreign Relations. Tell me again why it matters who wins this election?

apnews.myway.com/article/20080905/D930B0EG1.html

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RICK WARREN DEFENDER RICHARD ABANES: IT IS OK FOR CHRISTIANS TO ALLOW THEIR KIDS TO READ HARRY POTTER!

Posted by Job on August 11, 2008

Fantasy and Your Family: Exploring The Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, and Modern Magick
By: Richard Abanes

Product Description
Should Christians be reading fantasy literature? Is there really a difference between the magic and wizards in J.R.R. Tolkien’s The Lord of the Rings and J.K. Rowling’s Harry Potter series? What about book burning, or banning books? Isn’t it better that children read Harry Potter instead of watching television? If you are not satisfied with quick easy answers to these questions, this book will help.

Richard Abanes is a cult/occult expert. He is also a huge fan of fantasy and science fiction literature. The Harry Potter series gave him a unique chance to combine his two passions, and this book is a fascinating look at both the fantasy genre and the two series which best exemplify it. It is also an exposition of the themes, characters and spirituality in The Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter. (Please note: Roman Catholic J.R.R. Tolkein SPECIFICALLY, REPEATEDLY, VEHEMENTLY, AND CONSISTENTLY DENIED THAT THERE WAS EVER ANYTHING RESEMBLING CHRISTIANITY IN LORD OF THE RINGS. QUITE THE CONTRARY, TOLKEIN STATED THAT HIS GOAL IN WRITING LORD OF THE RINGS WAS TO GIVE ENGLAND A SYSTEM OF MYTHOLOGY SIMILAR TO THAT OF THE GREEK, ROMAN, AND NORSE MYTHOLOGY THAT HE LOVED! HE FELT THAT ENGLAND’S LACK OF A MYTHOLOGICAL SYSTEM LEFT THEM INFERIOR TO OTHER WESTERN NATIONS IN TERMS OF CONTRIBUTIONS TO LITERATURE AND CULTURE, AND HIS LORD OF THE RINGS UNIVERSE REPRESENTED AN ATTEMPT TO CATCH THEM UP! TOLKEIN WAS MOTIVATED BY CULTURAL NATIONALISM, NOT CHRISTIANITY, WHEN HE WROTE LORD OF THE RINGS! ANYONE THAT HAS STUDIED THE OTHER BOOKS IN THIS AREA THAT TOLKEIN WROTE BEYOND THE RINGS TRILOGY AND THE HOBBIT CAN SEE HOW DEEP INTO PAGANISM, ANIMISM, SPIRITISM, ETC. THE LORD OF THE RINGS ARE! THE STORIES OF CREATION AND THE AFTERLIFE … THE WAY THAT “THE GODS” IN HIS FANTASY UNIVERSE BEHAVE … ALL ARE DIRECT AND PURPOSEFUL IMITATIONS OF PRE – CHRISTIAN EUROPEAN TRIBAL PAGANISM AND ARE IN COMPLETE OPPOSITION TO CHRISTIANITY! ANYONE WHO CLAIMS OTHERWISE IS A LIAR! NOW I HAVE MY OWN ISSUES WITH C.S. LEWIS’ NARNIA, BUT AT LEAST NARNIA WAS IN FACT INTENDED TO BE A CHRISTIAN ALLEGORY!)

Abanes casts an educated eye on the genre of fantasy, looking at both its positive and negative aspects. He even uses child development information (another term for the secular humanist witchcraft developed by people atheist scoffers against God like Dewey and especially perverts like Kinsey and Freud … thousands of years of biblical revelation and we need to start going to atheists and perverts to tell us how to raise our kids?), to examine how fantasy affects children at various stages of development. (One effect: kids that get hooked on fantasy have a tendency to never grow up mentally or emotionally. By the way, that is my own personal testimony from my own experience, and it is only by the grace of God that I was only hooked on the books and movies … I never got into the video games or the role playing games by God’s providence, or there is NO TELLING how messed up I would have been.) He offers parents the information necessary to make wise decisions about what their children are reading.

Abanes never says that Christians should not read Harry Potter. He does point out, however, that some of the fears that have been expressed about the occultic references in Harry Potter are valid, as some children have developed a deeper interest in the occult because of Harry Potter. He has documentation that shows a significant minority of children are more interested in the occult since reading Harry Potter. The most dangerous aspect, in Abanes’ mind, is the fact that Rowling and her supporters blithely brush off reports about increased interest in the occult. (Pardon me, but why would we EXPECT Rowling, a member of the slitheryn cult whose very goal is to promote the occult DO ANYTHING BUT PROMOTE THE OCCULT? Why even expect a wicked person to do anything but wickedness? It is the job of the RIGHTEOUS to do RIGHTEOUSNESS by PROMOTING RIGHTEOUSNESS AND WARNING AGAINST EVIL! So “the most dangerous aspect” is the refusal of evangelical interests like Christianity Today and James Dobson – though Dobson later backtracked because of the pressure – to unconditionally call Potter out for the devil worshiping witch that she is. But hey, the Bible says that if you compromise one thing you will compromise on everything, and boy aren’t the Rick Warren Purpose Driven types excellent at compromising everything, including the truth!)

One of the most fascinating aspects of this book is the in-depth comparison of The Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter. Abanes focuses on several moral/religious issues, arguing that the magic in Tolkien is vastly different from the magick (the traditional occultic spelling for the term used when discussing witchcraft, divination, etc.) in Harry Potter. (Even if that were true, it is still magic, right? Look, far eastern spiritism is different from African animism, which is different from the European tribal religions which is different from the ancient Native American religions which is different from near eastern paganism. Don’t go tell a religious pluralist that … it will break his heart! BUT THE POINT IS THAT NO MATTER HOW SIMILAR OR DIFFERENT THEY ARE, THE BIBLE STILL CALLS IT SORCERY, DIVINATION, IDOLATRY, WITCHCRAFT, ETC. AND CHRISTIANS ARE NOT TO PROMOTE, ADVOCATE, OR APPRECIATE IT BUT RATHER WAR AGAINST IT! IT IS ALL ABOUT THE BIBLE PEOPLE!) Abanes also answers several important questions about fantasy, in general, and Harry Potter, specifically, that people have been asking. Finally, Abanes explains why the occult needs to be viewed as dangerous for children. (It is also plenty dangerous FOR ADULTS. King Saul was not a child when he consulted the witch of Endor, but a fully grown man. The people of Israel were not children when they refused to heed Jeremiah’s call to stop burning incense to the queen of heaven, but adults. Simon Magus of Acts, the Ephesus cult that tried to murder Paul … all adults. Bottom line: if it is dangerous for children OR adults, why indulge in it for idle – or should I say IDOL – entertainment?)

This book is very aptly named. It is designed to give parents vital information about fantasy and its related titles, so they can make informed decisions about what their children are reading. (The only decision informed by the Bible is for parents to tell their kids to hate witchcraft. Children do need to be exposed to this stuff – sheltering kids never works – but only so they can be able to discern evil so that they will know what to reject, what to flee, and what to use as evangelistic tools to get their playmates and classmates out of the darkness of the occult and into the light of Jesus Christ.) Abanes offers us the information we need, and allows us to make our decisions based on the facts. In the end, he urges parents to act as true guardians of their children, protecting them from those things which seek to harm them. (I quote: “Abanes never says that Christians should not read Harry Potter.”)

People, let me explain to you how ridiculous this is. It is no different from refusing tell children – or adults – that they cannot indulge in fornication, homosexuality, theft, and murder. Instead, it is akin to going into a detailed discussion on the various acts of sinful sexuality and crime, and suggesting that some really are not that bad, not harmful at all, if SOME forays into homosexuality, fornication, and attempted murder are just fine for some Christians so long as they are well enough schooled on the theories of perverts like Freud and Kinsey to make an informed decision for themselves and their children. I have to tell you, were Abanes to be a self professed expert of homosexuality and violent crime and a huge fan of homosexual and crime literature, evangelical Christians wouldn’t go near him. But being a expert in and huge fan of the literature of the occult/sorcery/witchcraft/cult scene that is directly associated with homosexuality/fornication and many crimes including but certainly not limited to murder and ritualistic child abuse (do research, people, just because the God – hating media doesn’t report it and most evangelical churches don’t preach about it doesn’t mean that it isn’t true!) will get your books sold by the official bookstore chain of America’s largest evangelical Christian denomination – the very same denomination to which Rick Warren is a member!

As if I already did not know this from Abanes’ initial comments on this website claiming that Rick Warren was not out promoting Roman Catholicism, Islam, and Mormonism (this despite the fact that I have read and placed on this very website official press releases signed by Council on Foreign Relations worker and business partner with the world’s biggest pornographer Rupert Murdoch Rick Warren saying the opposite), this really does put his efforts to silence Ken Silva’s Apprising Ministries into context!

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WHAT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA SPENDING FATHER’S DAY AT AN APOSTOLIC CHURCH OF GOD MEANS!

Posted by Job on June 14, 2008

All Hussein Obama needs to do to win this thing is to start talking about black illegitimacy and cultural dysfunction in a serious way. Seriously, THAT IT ALL HE HAS TO DO. Funny that the Wall Street Journal, a major organ of the globalist elite – which really has not attacked Obama in any serious way, which is curious as even Fox News’ “attacks” on Obama have been silly stuff like “terrorist fist jab” and “Michelle Obama is Barack’s baby mama” that are more likely to make people vote FOR the guy than AGAINST him – has not attacked the fellow either. But what has the Wall Street Journal done? Well Juan Williams, who like Barack HUSSEIN Obama whose ancestors are not from America and JUST HAPPENS TO BE THE LONGTIME TOKEN BLACK LIBERAL VOICE ON FOX NEWS, has penned this Father’s  Day piece bemoaning the illegitimacy problem, including in the black community: The Tragedy of America’s Disappearing Fathers

One day, in a juvenile facility near his home in Jersey City, a 15-year-old black boy pulled him aside for a whispered question: Why did he write in “Somewhere in the Darkness” about a boy not meeting his father because the father was in jail? Mr. Myers, a 70-year-old black man, did not answer. He waited. And sure enough, the boy, eyes down, mumbled that he had yet to meet his own father, who was in jail.

Obama family at new Chicago church for Fathers Day. First time out since quitting Trinity United Church of Christ

WASHINGTON–The Obama family has a tradiiton of going to church on Fathers Day; that’s what Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), the presumptive Democratic nominee told Jimmy Kimmel when he taped an interview with the talk show host on Friday. But the Obama family quit Trinity United Church of Christ a week ago, in the wake of divisive comments by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Father Michael Pfleger. Where to go? This Sunday, the Obamas leave their Kenwood home on a landmark block on Chicago’s South Side to attend church at the nearby Apostolic Church of God, 6320 Dorchester Ave.

But Obama will have to work on Fathers Day. Obama will “speak about the responsibilities we have as fathers and parents to help our children achieve their dreams,” his campaign said. Parental responsibility is a theme Obama has sounded before.

Last February, in Beaumont,Texas, Obama drew wild cheers as he told a mostly African-American crowd that parents need to shape up, turn off the TV, help their kids with their homework and stop letting them grow fat eating Popeyes chicken for breakfast.

“It’s not good enough for you to say to your child, ‘Do good in school,’ and then when that child comes home, you got the TV set on, you got the radio on, you don’t check their homework, there is not a book in the house, you’ve got the video game playing,” said Obama.

FOOTNOTE: Dr. Byron Brazier, a minister at the Apostolic Church of God, ran as an Obama delegate from the seventh congressional district in Illinois.

LINK to Lynn Sweet column about Obama using bully pulpit in Texas telling parents to shape up and cut out the Popeyes.

I always felt that all Al Gore had to do in order to beat George W. Bush in 2000 was to talk about illegitimacy. A lot of people do not remember this about Gore, but the guy was a “conservative family values Democrat” along the lines of Gary Condit during most of his career in the House and Senate … the Gores are the ones responsible for the little parental advisory stickers on rock and rap music CDs. Just like all John Kerry had to do to beat George W. Bush in 2004 was talk about Bush’s connections to Saudi Arabia OR challenge him on getting Usama bin Laden. The fact that neither Gore or Kerry did EITHER made me question whether either guy really wanted to win – or was supposed to win. If Obama does not start talking about black illegitimacy, all it will mean is that McCain was the guy selected by the various groups that both candidates AND Hillary Clinton are meeting with (Bilderbergs, Rothschilds, Soros, CFR, et al) to occupy the White House. My current theory: if these folks choose McCain, it will be to continue the warfare against CERTAIN MUSLIMS in the Middle East, Asia, and Africa for the next four years. If these folks choose Obama, it will mean that they have decided to be conciliatory towards CERTAIN MUSLIMS. Of course, that means that Obama will be used to wage POLITICAL and CULTURAL war against CERTAIN CHRISTIANS. What sort am I speaking of? Brother IndependentConservative has one example: Legal Persecution of Christians in the West Has Begun.. Sword At The Ready has another: Biblical message now criminalized – Penalties created for those who criticize homosexuality. And I recall one of my first posts on this site when it was created last year: Here It Comes: The First Law To LEGALLY ENCODE CHRISTIAN PERSECUTION IN AMERICA

Please keep in mind that there is NO WAY that Turkey would be considering joining the EU had the European Union not totally cast off its Christian heritage and culture. Not that I advocate making Christianity worldly through heritage and culture, but still for outsiders that know nothing of the true spiritual nature of Christianity and HAVE BEEN LED BY THOUSANDS OF YEARS EVERYONE RANGING FROM POPES TO CRUSADERS TO RELIGIOUS RIGHT DOMINIONISTS INTO FALSELY EQUATING CHRISTIANITY WITH GOVERNMENT AND CULTURE BECAUSE MIXING GOVERNMENT AND CULTURE IS A KEY FEATURE OF OTHER RELIGIONS I.E. ISLAM, JUDAISM, AND HINDUISM AS WELL AS OTHER IDEOLOGIES LIKE DEMOCRACY AND MARXISM, the “Christian nation” thing is offputting. But you know that the rest of the world associates Christianity with white people, capitalism, imperialism/colonialism, and traditional European culture and values. Electing the son of a Kenyan Muslim whose false Jesus Christ promoted abortion, homosexuality, Marxism, and universalism would fulfill the dreams of the Harlem renaissance writer that rejected Christianity for Marxism Langston Hughes. This fellow wrote “Goodbye Jesus Christ” (see a commentary at John Piper’s SeeingGod.org on the fellow and his departure from Jesus Christ for black history month), and then penned this Marxist vision for America: Let America Be America Again. (Please realize that like all of W.E.B. Du Bois “Harlem Renaissance” cronies, Hughes was a mere Marxist propagandist, a fact that you will never hear in public schools or in the mainstream media.)

So, Obama’s visiting theologically conservative black churches – including that of James Meeks and Byron Brazier … the media lumps him into the same category of Jeremiah Wright and Michael Pfleger despite the fact that Meeks is actually a conservative evangelical – may be laying the groundwork for HUSSEIN Obama to stake out socially and culturally conservative positions for the black community similar to those of Bill Cosby that will please all but the most extreme elements of the left. And if the extreme elements of the left, the “a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle” and the “marriage oppresses women and children” crowd (yes these people actually do exist … see

Father’s Day really is the most disgusting thing imaginable. Mother’s Day started out as a women’s anti-War protest, but there is no even slightly justifiable reason for Father’s Day, other than stuffing more commodities that no one wants down the exhausted and overstretched maw of the American people. Hideous! Lets all work for and look forward to the destruction of the Family, Private Property and Irrational Religion.

  on this post) and Obama will actually appear moderate, which is what he needs to win the election. It would be his, well, “Sister Souljah moment.” So keep an eye on the campaign. If this does not happen, then McCain will win and Christians can expect the U.S. to fight directly and by proxy more wars in the Middle East, Asia, Africa, and around the world which will result not only in more violence but more inflation, poverty, and economic insecurity. But if it does happen, Obama will win, and a full push to make Biblical Christianity basically illegal will commence. That is why I say that Christians should vote for NEITHER, because the result would be voting for Stalin or Hitler.  

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MIKE HUCKABEE TO WORK FOR WORLD’S BIGGEST PORNOGRAPHER RICK WARREN CRONY RUPERT MURDOCH!

Posted by Job on June 12, 2008

Per the link below, the fellow – who actually defended Jeremiah Wright on MSNBC – has been hired to be a contributor for Fox News. Now Rupert Murdoch is a Council on Foreign Relations guy. So is Rick Warren. When Huckabee was being hammered by the anti – Christians in the right wing media for not knowing anything about foreign policy, HE HIRED A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS TO GET HIM UP TO SPEED ON THAT TOPIC! But hey, it is just me being a conspiracy – monger I guess. All of these things are just coincidences. 

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25131506

To learn why I call Rupert Murdoch the world’s biggest pornographer and Rick Warren his pastor, see here: 

Rick Warren Is “Pastor” To Porn King Rupert Murdoch!

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Rick Warren gives thumbs-up to gay “church”

Posted by Job on June 10, 2008

From DefendingContending.com

Rick Warren gives thumbs-up to gay “church”

I have become all things to all men that I might by all means save some–1st Corinthians 9:22

A verse from the apotle Paul that has been turned on its ear, upside-down, inside-out, and every which way from Sunday by the Willow Creek/Saddleback/Lakewood/
Lakeland/Lukewarm/Postmodern/Emergent crowd. Long story short, the apostle is not endorsing or condoning “Christians” who take part in the works of Satan in order to get people to “meet Jesus.” He is not, in any way, shape, or form, advocating making friends with the world in order to please God (See James 4:4, 1st John 2:15, Romans 8:6-8).

However, in his never-ending quest to be “all things to all men,” the “Protestant Pope” Rick Warren has finally gone around that bend he’s been heading for, and is openly embracing a “church” that “ministers” to those who embrace open rebellion against God by embracing the sin of homosexuality. Ingrid Schleuter has more:

Following Bill Hybel’s example, Rick Warren will be dining with Christians who say they are gay and proud of it. They are bringing their families with them to Saddleback for a Father’s Day celebration. This is the same gay road trip that has traveled the country to various megachurches to win converts to their views on sexuality. Even Joel Osteen said no to such a gathering. Repeat: these are professing “Christians” who are in moral revolt against the Word of God, not atheists at a gay pride parade who need someone to bear witness to the truth. These people know the truth and have rejected it. Not only that, they want everyone else in the church to reject it, too.

Now, before you start down the “Jesus dined with sinners and tax collectors” road, you need to understand something: We are never called to bring sinners in flat-out rebellion into the church building (see 2nd John 1:9-11). Whenever Jesus dined with such people, He went to them (Zaccheus, Matthew, woman at the well). Also, Paul commands us not to eat with anyone “named a brother who is sexually immoral, or covetous or…” So by allowing this organization into a building that some people call a “church,” and by seating them in this quote-unquote “church” to dine, Pope Warren is going against so many commands of Scripture (I assure you, many more than I have listed here). All in the name of “unity.”

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New World Order Billy Graham Cronies Telling White Evangelicals To Vote For Barack HUSSEIN Obama!

Posted by Job on June 9, 2008

Obama Could Win 40 Percent of Evangelical Vote, Says Expert

A well-connected authority in the evangelical world said in an interview this week that Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama could get up to 40 percent of the evangelical vote. The fascination with the charismatic Illinois senator combined with evangelicals’ effort to not be seen as an appendage of the Republican Party could swing evangelical voters in Obama’s favor, predicted Mark DeMoss – a prominent public relations executive whose clients include Focus on the Family, Franklin Graham, and Campus Crusade for Christ – to Beliefnet.com. (Can we no longer pretend to ignore the clear influence of the new world order types: Council on Foreign Relations, Rockefellers, Bilderbergs, Rothschilds, freemasons, etc. on this crowd? The PR man for Franklin Graham is basically making it OK for evangelicals to vote for Obama, just as Franklin Graham’s father is responsible for the evangelical – Roman Catholic alliance?)

“I will not be surprised if he gets one third of the evangelical vote,” DeMoss said in the interview. “I wouldn’t be surprised if it was 40 percent.” For comparison, the public relations guru pointed out that one-third of white evangelicals had voted for former president Bill Clinton in his 1996 re-election bid during the “height of [the] Monica Lewinsky mess.” (Keep in mind: BILLY GRAHAM WAS A HUGE SUPPORTER OF BILL CLINTON!)

“That’s a statistic I didn’t believe at first but I double and triple checked it,” he said, “I would not be surprised if that many or more voted for Barack Obama in this election.” In terms of Republican presidential nominee John McCain, DeMoss spoke about the lack of enthusiasm within the evangelical circle for the candidate. He said that for months now he hasn’t received an e-mail, letter, or phone call from fellow evangelicals urging that they unite behind McCain and “put aside whatever differences we have.”

“It’s just very quiet. It could mean there’s a real sense of apathy or it could mean they’re waiting for the general election to begin,” he said. “But it’s a surprise, given the way e-mail networks work now.” On McCain’s part, he hasn’t done much to reach out to DeMoss either. DeMoss said he has received one phone call from a McCain staffer about a month ago asking if he would like to help campaign for McCain. But the evangelical leader, who had enthusiastically campaigned for former presidential candidate Mitt Romney, turned down the invitation. (So … Billy and Franklin Graham supported Mormon Mitt Romney. Check, and got it.)

“I told him that I’m a conservative first and a Republican second,” he said. “I was inclined to vote for Senator McCain but not to get involved beyond that.” (And you are a Christian … where? And … Obama is a conservative or a Republican … where? Seriously, people, if I wanted to make this stuff up I couldn’t).

DeMoss briefly mentioned the 2000 incident when McCain lashed out at his former boss, Jerry Falwell, and Pat Robertson. He later commented that McCain’s recent rejection of the endorsements of Pastors John Hagee and Rod Parsley was a “mistake.” (So … rejecting the support of blaspheming demonic heretics is a mistake?) Although the two pastors have some controversial views on theology, both, in terms of values, support what many evangelicals hold dear, DeMoss contends. (Which is precisely why movements centered around “values” instead of Jesus Christ TAKES PEOPLE TO THE LAKE OF FIRE FOR ETERNITY.)

“Here were two conservative religious pastors who were probably out on a limb supporting him,” he said. (What, so they didn’t PRAY and CONSULT THEIR BIBLES before acting? You mean they acted outside of God’s Will? Shocking. Who would have figured it! Then again, that isn’t quite what you said, now is it?) “And he responds to criticism over comments they made and rejects them. That was a slap in the face to evangelicals who are already somewhat suspect of Senator McCain.”

But whatever happens in this election, one thing DeMoss wants to make clear is evangelicals are not “absolutely Republican.” “Polls don’t show that to be true,” he said. (Whatever happens in this election, it is clear that a lot of evangelicals are not following Jesus Christ and comprehending and obeying the Bible, and, well, the polls prove it. And hey, so does the fact that so many evangelicals are following people like you and your bosses!)

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