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The Mormon Self – Victimization Goes Into Overdrive Over Mitt Romney

Posted by Job on February 8, 2008

In it Mormons complain “It forced Latter-day Saints to acknowledge that they don’t just belong to another American denomination!” This article is fascinating: sltrib.com/ci_8200642

Now I was made aware by one of my books on Mormonism (Mormonism 101 by Bill McKeever and Eric Johnson of the Mormonism Research Ministry founded and run by former Mormons) that a major tactic of this false religion to retain its members is to cultivate a sense of victimization and persecution. That article above is a clear example of it. It takes the position that the sole reason why Mitt Romney lost was anti – Mormon bigotry. Contrast this with a more factual article msnbc.msn.com/id/23064098/ that does not even begin to list all the problems that Romney had as a candidate that were made even worse by the many bad choices that he made in the campaign. And even if he had been a better candidate: so what? Strong candidates lose all the time. Bob Graham was the most qualified Democratic Presidential candidate since Harry Truman. Ever heard of him? Exactly. In 1996 the best GOP candidate was Phil Gramm, and the guy didn’t win a single state.

But alas, keeping their victimization cult alive to retain their members is what they do. Here is one blatant lie: “It’s OK to challenge our beliefs but no one wants to be treated like they’re weird” claims Nancy Dredge, publisher of a Mormon women’s magazine. Except that during the entire campaign, Mitt Romney and his many backers with their various religious and political motivations claimed challenging his beliefs was 1. anti – Mormon bigotry and 2. an unconstitutional religion test for public office. Now I can understand people who hold that not voting for him solely on the basis that he is a Mormon is hypocritical since Christians have no problem routinely voting for people that are not born – again. But Romney and his allies (not all of whom were Mormon, I have already pointed out that his earliest and most prominent enablers in this strategy were Roman Catholics) chose to try to force Protestant Christians to accept Mormonism as legitimate Christianity and brand them as both bigots and traitors to the cause of conservatism if they objected. If you believe that Mike Huckabee’s saying “don’t Mormons believe that Satan and Jesus are brothers” was wrong, then so was the Romney strategy of using the same thug pressure tactics of the radical left to silence everyone unwilling to accept their “if he says that Jesus is his savior then you need to HAVE him if not in the theological context then at least in the political one.” (By the way our experience with pro – abortion pro – homosexual pro – war pro – corporate welfare pro – state George Walker Bush and the even more problematic Mike Huckabee ought to show us that we should be no more blithely trusting or accepting of professed Protestant Christians that claim Jesus as their savior.) And in that was a strong undercurrent of resentment. They were exuding the attitude “Hey, racists sacrificed by accepting blacks, Roman Catholics sacrificed by accepting Protestants, why can’t Protestants sacrifice for the cause and accept Mormons?” Well, what white voter would accept a black candidate if he claimed to be white? What Roman Catholic voter would accept a Presbyterian candidate that claimed to be Roman Catholic?

Claiming that Protestants should have been willing to accept Romney’s claim that he was “a non – Catholic Christian just like them” just because racists were so graciously willing to accept blacks and Roman Catholics were so graciously willing to accept Protestants only shows their true attitudes towards blacks and Protestants. It shows that the racists REALLY don’t regard blacks as being equal or deserving of equal status and that Roman Catholics REALLY do not accept the legitimacy of Protestant Christianity, but are wearing a mask, maintaining a public facade in the interests of both the conservative movement and the larger national interest. Now I am not saying that if these folks ever get in power they will brutally repress blacks and Protestants, only that their words and behavior exposes the true contents of their hearts, and that is all the more reason why succumbing to the tactics of Romney and his backers would have been wrong, a betrayal of the truth of the Bible.

So, what we get is blatant lies like this: “As long as the Republican Party is primarily a party with an evangelical base, I don’t see how any Mormon could do any better than Romney,” said Alan Wolfe, director of the Boisi Center for Religion and American Public Life at Boston College. “You can’t explain how a relatively competent, successful businessman and governor could do so badly in the Southern primaries without pointing to his Mormonism.” First of all, the Republican Party does not have a primarily evangelical base. Evangelicals make up at best 25% of the Republican Party. Second, is Mitt Romney the first successful businessman and governor ever to fail in a Presidential run? Or even for Senate? Dan Quayle, a former senator and vice President, couldn’t even get elected governor of Arizona! Third: Mitt Romney didn’t only have problems in the south. People, the guy only won 7 states: 3 of them (Michigan, Massachusetts, Utah) he was the home state candidate, and most of the rest were caucus states that he bought using his organization. But Iowa and the south are the only states were Mormons can blame his losses on evangelicals, and evangelicals are the only group that Mormons can play the bigotry card against, so they are using it.

And when I say “play” I am serious. Go back to Wolfe’s statement “as long as the Republican Party is a party with primarily an evangelical base.” For quite awhile, I have seen Mormon blogs not so subtly suggest that the GOP dump the evangelicals in favor of a Mormon – Roman Catholic alliance. By holding a prominent position at Roman Catholic Boston College, which has the distinction of being the only major conservative Roman Catholic university left after Notre Dame, Georgetown, Catholic University, etc. have gone liberal in recent decades, Wolfe is precisely the sort that could work to make such a thing happen. Now were I still a Republican, I would care a lot more about such talk. As it happens, I am only keeping an eye on it because of the implications on where our country is going. The Democratic Party is what it is, and so if the GOP becomes the Roman Catholic – Mormon party (with just enough evangelical useful idiots to make it electable) well maybe that would have the positive effect of opening a lot of Christian eyes as to where they should store their hope and treasure.

Back to “It forced Latter-day Saints to acknowledge that they don’t just belong to another American denomination.” Add that to “I don’t see how any Mormon could do any better than Romney.” What do you get? That even the most regrettable rhetoric from the publicity – seeking grandstanders was still correct: Romney was running as the representative of his faith not only to promote it but to promote it as Christianity, and that their many vehement denials were simply LIES. I suppose that by pointing that out I am an anti – Mormon bigot, because the various pro – Romney blogs have all coordinated amongst themselves (and almost certainly with the Romney campaign) to contrive the notion that “flip – flop” is an anti – Mormon code word because of the false “Mormons lie” charge embedded in the evangelical mindset due to their negative interactions with a few poorly trained Mormon missionaries, and that a recent Vanderbilt study proves it. Trust me, I am not making this up, and it reached the point where even some of the non – Mormon political outlets were repeating the “flip – flop equals evangelical anti – Mormon bigotry” line. It had just started to catch on, and had Romney done well enough on Super Tuesday to remain in the race, you’d be hearing a lot more of it, no so much because non – Mormons actually believe it, but because they were grasping onto any reason they could to justify not holding Romney’s politically timed and untested transformation from RINO to Reagan Republican against him. Desperate times call for desperate measures!

But the key thing to take from that Salt Lake Tribune article were the not – so – subtle hints that Mormons are now going to shift gears and use different tactics in the future, and not just in politics. Whatever those tactics are, they are going to be very aggressive and not only in the political and religious spheres, but also in the secular mainstream. As an increasing number of folks are finding Mormons preferable to Christians for a variety of reasons (there were TONS of “I would personally rather live next to or hire a Mormon than an evangelical” types of comments circulating out there), so I am of the opinion that they are going to be rather effective. Whatever they are, Christians are going to have to be ready for it.

We have to recognize how much success the Mormons have already had. Mormons are only a tiny percentage of the population: 7 million of the 300 million Americans. Yet they are heavily disproportionately represented in some highly visible (business, entertainment, media, sports, academia, politics) and have had a huge impact on our culture. And realize that they are just getting started. Incidentally, for you evangelical Reagan supporters, two Mormons served in his cabinet. One, the convert from Roman Catholicism Bay Buchanan (the sister of ardent segregationist racist Pat Buchanan!) was one of two Mormon Treasury secretaries that we had (the other, Ivy Priest, served under Eisenhower) AND DID SO AT THE AGE OF THIRTY – TWO. The other was secretary of Education Terrell Bell.

Now I had always felt that Reagan did more for the Roman Catholics than he did for evangelicals. Now you can add Mormons to that list. So evangelicals, what do you think of Ronald Reagan and your religious right now?

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Should Christians Support Waterboarding?

Posted by Job on December 12, 2007

Doing the usual routine, driving around listening to talk radio, and came across the Bill Bennett radio show. Its name? “Morning in America.” After, of course, the Ronald Reagan campaign slogan. Which was what, 27 years ago? Yet folks are still wrapping themselves around his name and administration to make money and earn a name for themselves, just like pro murder in the womb (and on the streets of New York City) Rudy Giuliani is trying to win the support of social conservatives by reminding everyone that he was the #3 guy in Ed Meese’s Justice Department, a fact that he never mentioned much while he was cross – dressing and attending the gay pride parades, using state money and resources to help him cheat on his wife, shacking up with a homosexual couple, making New York into a sanctuary city for illegal aliens, endorsing Mario Cuomo for governor, appointing Democrats to the judiciary, and brazenly declaring to the New York Conservative Party that he would NEVER back down from his principled support for late term abortions even if it meant costing them his endorsement and the 300,000 votes that came with it in what was expected to be a very close Senate race with Hillary Clinton (the Conservative Party stated that unless he agreed to oppose late term abortions, they would run a third party candidate, something that people like this National Review’s David Frum who claim with a straight face that he will appoint pro – life judges hope that you do not remember). Now please realize that Ronald Reagan was a former actor that signed the nation’s most liberal abortion law as governor, put two pro – abortion judges on the Supreme Court, gave illegal immigrants amnesty and generally refused to enforce the border, and whose wife was a certified witch who contacted astrologers and necromancers. Yet why do social conservatives revere Reagan? Oh, because he called America “the shining city on a hill” or something. Fine, except that it isn’t true. That is, unless you are a Mormon who has various doctrines about the garden of Eden being in Missouri and their Jesus coming back to make New Jerusalem somewhere thereabouts. Incidentally, Frum’s National Review just endorsed Mitt Romney, claiming that his deceiving the liberal voters of Massachusetts into thinking that he supported their socially liberal beliefs is actually A GOOD THING because he lied and flip – flopped for our side!

Yes, and that is precisely the same sort of “ends justifies means” thinking that is used to justify waterboarding to interrogate terrorists. A caller to the Bill Bennett show declared himself to be ex – military and gave the patented arguments in favor of the tactic. It is not physical torture but rather “only” psychological/emotional/mental torture that does no real harm. Sure, so all the people that we have in the psychiatric wards, since there is nothing PHYSICALLY wrong with them they are OK, right? So maybe we should let them all out of their institutions. Where would they stay? Hey, since there is nothing wrong with them, maybe they could go live with that guy! They could, you know, babysit his kids while he and his wife go out shopping. Well you go on and try that Mr. ex – military “psychological torture isn’t torture” fellow, and let me know how it works out for you.

And then he resorts to “the Geneva convention prohibition against torture does not cover terrorists.” That is true. But guess what? The Geneva convention doesn’t protect YOU either. Are you a member of an army of a nation that the United States is at war against that has surrendered or been captured on the field of battle? I am going to go with the mathematical probability here and say that if you are reading this, the answer is no. Then the Geneva convention does not apply to you. But I am a U.S. citizen (or citizen of some other sovereign nation) and are protected by laws that prevent me from being tortured, you might protest. And that would be true. Right up until when the government declares you a terrorist, which they can do to anyone at any time without probable cause and on the basis of “secret evidence” that may or may not exist thanks to the Patriot Act and similar provisions. By the way, please remember that the Clinton administration first proposed a scaled down version of the Patriot Act after the Oklahoma City bombing, and George W. Bush signed a greatly expanded version of it after September 11th. SoldierServant has the details here: The Bush – Clinton Dynasty courtesy of Pastor Chuck Baldwin, one of the few truth – telling preachers on political issues out there.

Consider this. Are you a Christian who believes that Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven, abortion is murder, homosexuality is a sin, unjust wars and oppressing the poor is wrong, gigantic welfare coercive states are evil, that a nation should have and defend borders, and that you have the right to own a firearm? Well, according to the Patriot Act, you are a terrorist. The groundwork is already being laid. I am no Mike Huckabee fan (quite the contrary, more of a Ron Paul guy for lack of better options),  but check out how Charles Krauthammer and so many other supposed conservatives that are allegedly friends of fundamentalist and evangelical Christians are trashing Huckabee for calling himself – gasp! – “a Christian leader.” And of course, you have tons of folks trashing Jeanne Assam, no doubt angry that the Colorado church shooter Matthew Murray was deprived of his chance to kill even more of us. So, how long will it take before things get to the point where Christians are getting the same treatment in America as they did in China not too long ago? Well, Christians, continue to defend things like waterboarding and you will be one of the people that helps it happen.

As with all else, it all comes back to the Bible. Christians, we are not to compartmentalize our faith. We are not to divide spiritual and secular. Instead, our faith should control every area of our lives and thought process so that we will not be conformed to the world or its ways (Romans 12:2). So, the question “Should a Christian support waterboarding” should be the same answer as “would you want it done to you?” The answer is Matthew 7:12: “Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.” That is called The Golden Rule, and please read an excellent exposition on it here: http://www.keyway.ca/htm2001/20010313.htm. So many Christians claim to believe in and love the Bible, but so few think that it actually has to be followed! (In fairness, though I am not a supporter of his, let me point out that one of the reasons why the establishment GOP opposes Mike Huckabee is because of his opposition to waterboarding. By the way, Mitt Romney supports torture. Hmmm ….)

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Charles Krauthammer Proves Yet Again That The Religious Right Is An Apostate Universalist Movement

Posted by Job on December 8, 2007

What is Krauthammer’s problem? Mike Huckabee’s overtaking Mormon Mitt Romney in the presidential race. Not that I am some fan of Mike Huckabee. Quite the contrary, see Ties Between Mike Huckabee And John Hagee Discovered! (He Also Has Ties To Kenneth Copeland, Tim LaHaye, And Rick Warren)! Huckabee is as bad for Christianity and this nation as is Romney, if not worse. The one good thing about Huckabee hound’s candidacy is seeing the reaction to his rise on the Mormon blogs, revealing that their professions of love and compassion for and desire to cooperate with “their fellow Christians” (please recall that Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, and the original Mormons called us “Gentiles”) is a total sham: they are calling Huckabee’s evangelical supporters a bunch of ignorant bigot fanatics. That is no big surprise. What should be more surprising is that the leaders of the political right agree with them.

Why? Because their agenda was always conservatism, not Christianity. They were willing to take votes from Christians in their war against the left, but they never had any legitimate interest in advancing a Christian political, social, or economic agenda. Now the fact that there SHOULDN’T be a Christian political, social, or economic agenda in the first place if one takes the teachings of Jesus Christ, James, John, Paul, Peter, etc. seriously is something to remember. And that is the problem. The leaders of the conservative movement have been more than willing to play a large role in deceiving Christians away from sound Bible teaching and towards the false notion that we can advance the kingdom of heaven by working in a big tent with greedy and powerful big business types, Log Cabin Republican sodomites, Republicans For Choice abortion holocaust supporters, and (of course) segregationist racists to force governments to put up our Christmas displays.

Except that after 30 years of activism, we still cannot legally have Christmas displays, vital as they are to spreading the gospel and saving people from an eternity in the lake of fire, feeding the hungry, healing the sick, comforting the grieving, looking after the orphans and widows, reforming those in prison, etc. without including a replica of the altars that pagans once used for their human sacrifices alongside it. Prayer in public schools or other public settings? Only if it is not in the Name of Jesus Christ, which allows any witch, satanist, pantheist, etc. to participate. And so on. Christians have far more failures than successes after 30 years of hard work, and what few successes they have are hollow indeed, such as the partial birth abortion ban that many Christian legal experts that are not affiliated with the religious right say actually has the effect of being a law that guarantees the legality of the procedure in the first two triemesters where no such federal protection for abortion existed prior.

To make a long story short, evangelical Christians have been to the Republican Party what blacks have been to the Democratic one. It is not a perfect comparison, for the former are not as monolithic or loyal, but the latter provides their party with nowhere near as much financial support as the former. But with both, the leadership of both parties is more than welcome to accept their political support for basically nothing in terms of policy or real political power. Huckabee, despite his many problems, is nonetheless an example of an evangelical using the very same religious right network that they exploited to seek real power for himself and his movement. It is fine if you are an evangelical and are willing to be the governor of a state that no one cares about (Arkansas) or a back – bencher senator. They may even give you a low level cabinet post. Until now, the biggest concession given to the evangelical movement was making John Ashcroft attorney general. And you see how that worked out: Bush administration officials forcing Ashcroft to sign an order authorizing torture while the man was gravely ill in the hospital. Not that I am an Ashcroft fan … it was Ashcroft who gave us faith based programs through his charitable choice provision in the welfare reform bill. But still.

Well now, Huckabee wants more power than the GOP ever intended for evangelicals to have, and the GOP is doing their best to demand that the religious right go back to their habit of supporting whoever leads the ticket and is willing to either pretend to be anti – abortion or failing that at least KINDA SORTA promise to appoint federal judges that MAYBE are. And so we have this manifesto from Krauthammer that tells evangelical Christians to know their place:

The God of the Founders, the God on the coinage, the God for whom Lincoln proclaimed Thanksgiving Day is the ineffable, ecumenical, nonsectarian Providence of the American civil religion whose relation to this blessed land is without appeal to any particular testament or ritual. Every mention of God in every inaugural address in American history refers to the deity in this kind of all-embracing, universal, nondenominational way. (The one exception: William Henry Harrison. He caught cold delivering that inaugural address. Thirty-one days later, he was dead. Draw your own conclusion.) I suspect that neither Jefferson’s Providence nor Washington’s Great Author nor Lincoln’s Almighty would look kindly on the exploitation of religious differences for political gain. It is un-American. It is unfortunate that Romney has had to justify himself in response.”

Thank you, Krauthammer, for demonstrating that the god of the religious right, the god of our (freemason and deist) founding fathers, and by extension the true patron god of this nation, whatever that god may be, is NOT the God of Christianity, the God of the Bible, the one true God who exists eternally in the Persons of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, with none of them having been created or having been was raised or progessed to godhood, but have always been God. If you did not know this in the past, well now you know, and you also know that there is no longer any reason for messing around with the religious right. They not only have never represented your agenda, but precisely the opposite. If you knew this already but supported the religious right anyway out of your zeal against abortion or communism, now is your chance to acknowledge that good fruit cannot come from wicked trees and turn aside. If you refuse to turn aside, well you are going to have to answer God for that decision. And of course, the fact that the religious left is also not on God’s side is so obvious that it does not need to be stated.

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