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The Necessity Of The Holy Trinity

Posted by Job on October 26, 2011

Motivated at least in part by the current controvery over oneness heretic T.D. Jakes, (also here and here) please read two very good pieces on the importance of the Holy Trinity. Hopefully, this will help Christians understand that we are to separate with heretics, not dialogue with them.

On The Trinity: Part One – Hermeneutics

On the Trinity: Part Two – The Trinity, Central to Apologetics and Evangelism

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National Religious Broadcasters Using Oneness Modalist Heretic TD Jakes To Get Out The Vote

Posted by Job on May 12, 2008

Driving to work this morning viewing the effects of the terrible thunderstorms that spared my neighborhood but hard hit the one right next to mine, I was listening to Christian radio. Out of the blue comes TD Jakes’ booming voice. In it, he first speaks of how much he loves America and so forth. I immediately thought of Jakes doing this to exploit anger over Barack Hussein Obama, Michelle Obama, and Jeremiah Wright’s considerably less than jingoistic statements and actions. Then he went into his exhortation spiel for people to register and get out to vote. 

First, I see Lifeway Bookstores, owned by the Southern Baptist Convention, selling TD Jakes’ doctrinal error (oneness pentecostalism and the Word of Faith/prosperity doctrine are but a few of his MANY problems) and now the National Religious Broadcasters are using this guy. I had been using the NRB as a sort of a refuge from the blatant charismania that you will find on The Word Network, Trinity Broadcasting Network, Daystar, etc. So I just ignored the heavy Pat Robertson presence on the channel, as well as their “white Europeans are the descendants of the children of Israel … the Danube River is so named because of the tribe of Dan” show that comes on early in the morning. I also ignored their embrace of the Ellen White Seventh Day Adventist cult. So I suppose that I cannot cast NRB aside on Jakes’ account, since the ones that I just named are hardly better – if anything some might be worse – or else I would be reacting out of a personal dislike for Jakes rather than on principle. (On the other hand, Slice of Laodicea has criticized NRB, albeit for different reasons, such as this post stating that not one red cent of NRB’s $5 BILLION IN ASSETS is being used to defend the faith from Oprah Winfrey.)

Incidentally, speaking of TD Jakes and PR spots, he has another one out (I did not catch the sponsor!) promoting single sex education, saying that “boys need their own schools so that they will be able to, you know, romp and stuff (his choice of words not mine!) and that boys learn differently from girls and needed their own classrooms in order to be accommodated. So … it looks like Jakes is not that far removed from Jeremiah Wright’s separatist doctrines after all? 

I have to be honest, back when I was part of the religious right and allowing my worldview to be shaped by the Washington Times and the National Review, I was in full agreement. But now … I just recall reading about this inner city public school that went all male. Sure, the discipline problems decreased and the test scores went up. But when they interviewed the boys that attended the school, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WANTED THEM TO BRING THE GIRLS BACK! Why? Because, er … BOYS LIKE GIRLS! Or at least they are supposed to anyway. Perhaps now that T.D. Jakes is on board with the new world order’s gay rights agenda (and yes this is relevant … perhaps due to his son) he thinks it is OK. To me, the whole single sex education thing … who wants it? Certainly not the kids. Not the administrators or teachers. Parents go for it only because they are desperate for any hook or angle to improve the failing school systems that the government is ruining on purpose. Not even the old fashioned religious sorts – of which I am one – think that it is a good idea anymore, where you were supposed to keep boys and girls separate in their little boarding or finishing schools (where they were supposed to look OH SO CUTE in their little uniforms I guess) UNTIL GRADUATION DAY WHEN YOU MARRY THEM OFF.

Sorry people, but society has changed. Not all of the changes have been for the good, but methinks that one of the most important things for a boy to learn from school is how to treat a lady and how to behave yourself in their presence. For some of us guys, those things do not come naturally, and you only learn them through trial and error. Especially error. (If you don’t learn to handle competition and rejection in junior high and high school, how on earth are you supposed to handle being turned down for jobs, promotions, college choices, etc. later in life?) So … HOW ON EARTH ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO LEARN THOSE THINGS IF THERE ARE NO GIRLS AROUND TO LEARN THEM FROM? 

Like I said, TD Jakes may have his own reasons for wanting to turn your local public school into Morehouse College or similar, and whatever they are I oppose them 100%. All the more reason why the Southern Baptist Convention should not be selling this guy’s books and NRB shouldn’t be using him for their get out the vote campaign. But I suppose that this oneness anti – Trinitarian heretic is just too good at making money and moving public opinion for these people to pass up. That is, unless they are actually along with Jakes, on his side. After all, the Southern Baptists refuse to do anything about the likes of New Age heretic Erwin McManus and Council on Foreign Relations worker Rick Warren (and Richard Land too?), and as stated earlier, Al Sharpton Al Gore global warming propagandist partner Pat Robertson is a major partner with the NRB. 

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The Paula White – Rick Hawkins Connection

Posted by Job on March 21, 2008

“Embattled” Paula White and Rick Hawkins “strengthen ties” March 13, 2008 by John

It is a measure of the American Churches blindness that it cannot discern what is going here with Paula White and Rick Hawkins. Having successfully dodged a storm over her “amicable” divorce from Randy White, with no loss of following from her “fans”. Still able to appear on TBN as if she has not done anything to violate minimal Biblical Standards for those who proclaim to be Christian Leaders.

It appears now that Paula White feels comfortable to move on to the next step in her fleshly desires and that is to “shack up” her “ministry” with another so called minister! It would seem the next big announcement will be that she and Rick Hawkins have “married”.

These two people are an absolute disgrace to Christianity! In fact I would be so bold to say that they are not followers of Christ at all as they reflect the works of their true father: Satan himself!

How many thousands if not millions will her behavior have an affect upon? How many millions will look to her behavior as justifiable and the “norm” for not only a supposed Christian Leader, but Christians in general!

The continuing damage this Jezebel does to Christianity is incalculable!

from MySA.com:

TV evangelist and motivational speaker Paula White, whose high-profile ministry is under review by a Senate committee, has forged stronger connections to a San Antonio church, having joined its board of directors and scheduled monthly visits throughout this year.

The nondenominational church, formerly called Family Praise Center, recently changed its name to San Antonio Epicenter, and founder Bishop Rick Hawkins remains its leader.

The Epicenter’s Web site reflects the church’s makeover and highlights White’s branding, including her monthly appearances and use of the church’s stage, remodeled to turn into a TV studio, for her recordings.

“From this stage, a potential 2.3 billion households will be touched throughout the world,” the narrator says in an online video.

The revamping of the church follows several controversies last year, including Hawkins’ divorce, the divorce of his son, Dustin, whom Rick had designated as pastor, and a WOAI investigation in which former church members questioned Hawkins’ integrity as a minister, including his spending of church money.

It alleged he paid former church members to keep quiet, which Hawkins has denied is improper or illegal, given church policy about severance packages for departing staff.

At the first service after the report aired, Hawkins praised the congregation for remaining loyal and reminded them that he already had apologized in church for past “sins and mistakes.”

White co-founded a megachurch in Tampa with her now-former husband, Randy White. The couple announced an amicable divorce last fall, saying no infidelity took place but sparking a debate among evangelicals about whether the breakup was appropriate.

Her expensive lifestyle, which includes a Trump Tower condo and a ministry jet, also has been fodder for public comment. She and her ex-husband are among six multimillion-dollar ministries that Sen. Chuck Grassley is individually reviewing in an inquiry about their compliance with non-profit tax policy.

White has defended her high-dollar ministry income as a blessing from God to accomplish his work, noting her donations to the disadvantaged worldwide.

White’s ministry spokeswoman Sheila Withum and her public relations agency WDC Media said White was not available for comment. Calls and e-mails to Will Norris, Epicenter’s spokesman and a staff pastor, were not returned.

All six TV ministers, including White, espouse some form of the so-called prosperity gospel, which emphasizes a message that God provides financial rewards for those committed to regular donations to their churches and ministries.

The Whites are among four of the ministries that the committee has reported as not cooperating with its requests for financial information, prompting the committee recently to prepare another round of requests and fueling speculation that subpoenas eventually could be sought.

The committee’s inquiries have intensified an already active debate about how open tax-exempt churches and ministries should be with their financial records. One side is suspicious that the Senate committee could be interfering with religious freedom. Others say the government is enforcing nonprofit tax laws that might be abused by church leaders in the name of charity. “We’re just saying enough with the funny business,” said Lee Grady, editor of the popular Christian magazine, Charisma, based in Florida.

“We have now entered into a new season. It’s a season of accountability. It’s a season of disclosure, and I’ve been saying that God Almighty is auditing the church.”

White, who has lived in Tampa, bought a home near Boerne six months ago and has set up a “media headquarters” for Paula White Ministries at the San Antonio church, according to the Epicenter Web site.

Hawkins, who owns a ranch outside of Boerne, serves on the board of White’s PWM Life Center, a nonprofit organization created last year. In keeping with White’s national profile, the Epicenter this year has scheduled notable Christian musicians and speakers for regular services and special events.

Among the changes is a new Saturday service led by a couple with ties to nationally known ministries, according to the church’s Web site. John and Jan Cruse are said to be leading “The Gathering” service.

John is described as the brother of Cindy Cruse, noted worship leader for Lakewood Church in Houston, the nation’s largest Protestant church pastored by best-selling author Joel Osteen. And Janice Cruse used to sing with the Archers, a longstanding contemporary Christian music group.

This week, the church will feature Bob and Audrey Meisner who will speak about marriage. The Meisners are known for giving a message about restoring marriages, including telling their own story of overcoming issues of infidelity.

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Pat Robertson: Dual Covenant Theology Heretic

Posted by Job on February 14, 2008

Independent Conservative » Blog Archive » Why Did Pat Robertson Lie to Michael Eisner About Salvation?On June 20, 2006 the cable TV network CNBC featured media mogul
Michael Eisner interviewing Pat Robertson. Although this happened some
time ago, there was something that took place during this particular
interview, that I have not found much outcry against and I felt it
should be noted here. Because it is a totally misleading use of
scripture and Pat Robertson once again showed he’s following AND
TEACHING a false gospel, to say what he said to Michael Eisner.

What concerns me occurred at the tail end of the interview. You can watch video of the interview via this link and once the interview video starts (after an advertisement), you can advance to 4:22 to see where things start regarding what I’m speaking of here.

Below is a quote from the official transcript.


MICHAEL EISNER:
This may be a silly question. I’ve almost been married as long as you have. About 40 years. How long have you been married?

PAT ROBERTSON:
About 52.

MICHAEL EISNER:

All right. So I’m not– I’m not in your league. I’m not in your league.

PAT ROBERTSON:

All right.

MICHAEL EISNER:
So my wife is Christian.

PAT ROBERTSON:
Right.

MICHAEL EISNER:
So I appreciate the fact that she’s Christian. She can go to heaven. I’m Jewish.

PAT ROBERTSON:
Yeah.

MICHAEL EISNER:

So from what I understand, we only can be together in– on this Earth. ‘Cause I can’t go to heaven, according to the 700 Club.

PAT ROBERTSON:

No, not according to the 700 Club. I don’t know who it’s according to.

MICHAEL EISNER:
All right. So– well, I thought Jews couldn’t go to heaven.

PAT ROBERTSON:
All right. Here’s the deal. And with this– the Apostle Paul said that
all Israel will be saved. There’s going to come a time when all Jews
are gonna come to heaven. They’re all gonna meet the– the Lord. And–
and it’s– it’s in the Old Testament. Zachariah says they’ll look upon
him who they have pierced, and they’re going to mourn and so forth. But
there’s gonna come a time of extraordinary persecution. There already
has come. But it’s gonna be some serious stuff. And– it’s told by the
Old Testament prophets the answer that we believe as evangelicals is
that God has a special role for the Jewish people. And you look at– you
look at the 22nd Psalm. He talks about his bones pulled out of joint,
you know? And he talks about people surrounding. And he looks down, and
it describes the crucifixion. It’s all in there. It’s in the Old
Testament– describing what happened. And– I’m just one of the goy that
came along late. (LAUGHTER) I– I’m– I’m converting to the– to the faith
of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

MICHAEL EISNER:
So you’re converting to Judaism.

PAT ROBERTSON:
Well, I’m not converting to Judaism. (OVERTALK)

MICHAEL EISNER:

See, I thought I’d– this would be– this would be a big announcement here.

PAT ROBERTSON:
(LAUGHTER) I’m–

MICHAEL EISNER:
I could get a big rating.

PAT ROBERTSON:
I’m converting– (OVERTALK)

MICHAEL EISNER:
Pat Robertson converts to Judaism. (OVERTALK)

PAT ROBERTSON:
–faith of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And– but the time is coming very
soon when there’s going to be a revelation of the Lord to everybody.
And all Israel, all Israel is gonna get saved.

MICHAEL EISNER:
You’ve always been known to be very pro-Israel.

PAT ROBERTSON:
Totally pro-Israel. I mean, I– I’ve got the Star of David printed on my underwear. I mean, it’s that kind of thing.

MICHAEL EISNER:
Thought you had Mickey Mouse on your underwear.

PAT ROBERTSON:

(LAUGHTER) (UNINTEL) said you’re more Israeli than (UNINTEL). But in–
in any event– I firmly believe that according to the Bible, the– the
fullness of the Gentiles will come in. And then all Israel will be
saved. That’s what the Apostle Paul wrote.

MICHAEL EISNER:

Wow. (LAUGHTER) Thank you very much– (OVERTALK)

MICHAEL EISNER:
Got a lot to think about now.

PAT ROBERTSON:
(LAUGHTER) I want you to be with your wife.

MICHAEL EISNER:
Yeah. I’m gonna be with her, one way or the other.

PAT ROBERTSON:
Okay. (LAUGHTER)

MICHAEL EISNER:

Thank you.

What Pat Robertson basically said was (paraphrasing), All you Jews are going to Heaven, because Paul said ALL ISRAEL will be saved.

In the context Pat Robertson spoke, he spoke a lie. We could say Hebrew scripture notes all Israel one day went into the promised land, HOWEVER we should not forget that many did not get beyond the wilderness.

Numbers 14:22-32 (New American Standard Bible)

22 “Surely all the men who have seen My glory and My
signs which I performed in Egypt and in the wilderness, yet have put Me
to the test these ten times and have not listened to My voice,

23 shall by no means see the land which I swore to their fathers, nor shall any of those who spurned Me see it.

24 “But My servant Caleb, because he has had a different spirit and
has followed Me fully, I will bring into the land which he entered, and
his descendants shall take possession of it.

25 “Now the Amalekites and the Canaanites live in the valleys; turn
tomorrow and set out to the wilderness by the way of the Red Sea.”

26 The LORD spoke to Moses and Aaron, saying,

27 “How long shall I bear with this evil congregation who are
grumbling against Me? I have heard the complaints of the sons of
Israel, which they are making against Me.

28 “Say to them, ‘As I live,’ says the LORD, ‘just as you have spoken in My hearing, so I will surely do to you;

29 your corpses will fall in this wilderness, even all your
numbered men, according to your complete number from twenty years old
and upward, who have grumbled against Me.

30 ‘Surely you shall not come into the land in which I swore to
settle you, except Caleb the son of Jephunneh and Joshua the son of Nun.

31 ‘Your children, however, whom you said would become a prey–I
will bring them in, and they will know the land which you have rejected.

32 ‘But as for you, your corpses will fall in this wilderness.

Take note of the statement “nor shall any of those who spurned Me see it”.
The Messiah of Hebrew scripture has come and His name is Jesus, Yeshua.
Yeshua, Jesus is the Christ. Since his coming, He warned Israel for
their unbelief in Him.

Luke 19:41-44 (New American Standard Bible)

41 When He approached Jerusalem, He saw the city and wept over it,

42 saying, “If you had known in this day, even you, the things
which make for peace! But now they have been hidden from your eyes.

43 “For the days will come upon you when your enemies will throw up
a barricade against you, and surround you and hem you in on every side,

44 and they will level you to the ground and your children within
you, and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you
did not recognize the time of your visitation.”

And it did happen.

Jesus provided the means for salvation through belief on Him. Jesus even explained this himself in John 3.
Through His sacrificial death, burial and resurrection, He provides
salvation to all who believe on Him, turning from darkness, both Jew
and Gentile alike.

One who rejects Jesus does not have the Father, they do not have God. They are not saved.

1 John 2:22-23 (New American Standard Bible)

22 Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is
the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and
the Son.

23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also.

Therefore, it is impossible to tell anyone, even a Jew (a person of Hebrew blood) that they can be saved via any means except they believe on Jesus Christ. If they deny Him, they are not saved, period.

So what of all Israel being saved as Paul said? It is just like it
was for the Jews of the past. Those who deny the truth God has given to
man through His Son will perish, but a final remnant of Israel will
believe on Him and be saved. This does not mean Michael Eisner will be
part of that group. So to tell Michael Eisner “all Israel”, as if it
applies to him and all Jews is an untruth. Romans 11
is best read in full, given it details things fully. Through Hebrew
disobedience a means of salvation was made for Gentiles that believe on
Christ, but no Jew who rejects Christ will be saved. All Jews reading
this post should read the book of Hebrews from its first chapter to its last (chapter 13). When the fullness of Gentiles has come in (all Gentiles who are the Lord’s believe on Him),
that final remaining remnant of Hebrew blood will be at a point in
biblical prophesy, where they will all accept Jesus as Lord and He will
save them and all still in flesh at that time who believe on Him. All
who die today believing on Christ are saved too, but not anyone who
fails to. This does not mean Michael Eisner is saved by virtue of his
heritage, no more than anyone else that fails to believe on Jesus.

I feel it is a heinous crime against the Lord God, that so-called Christians are lying to people of Hebrew descent.

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Islamic Jesus Movie: From Iran With Love! How Long Before TBN Airs It?

Posted by Job on January 14, 2008

Note: please see Trinity Broadcasting Network Tries To Merge Islam And Christianity! for the justification of my TBN comment in the title.

‘Islamic Jesus’ hits Iranian movie screens

16 hours ago TEHRAN (AFP) — A director who shares the ideas of Iran’s hardline president has produced what he says is the first film giving an Islamic view of Jesus Christ, in a bid to show the “common ground” between Muslims and Christians.

Nader Talebzadeh sees his movie, “Jesus, the Spirit of God,” as an Islamic answer to Western productions like Mel Gibson’s 2004 blockbuster “The Passion of the Christ,” which he praised as admirable but quite simply “wrong”.

“Gibson’s film is a very good film. I mean that it is a well-crafted movie but the story
is wrong — it was not like that
,” he said, referring to two key differences: Islam sees Jesus as a prophet, not the son of God, and does not believe he was crucified. Talebzadeh said he even went to Gibson’s mansion in Malibu, California, to show him his film. “But it was Sunday and the security at the gate received the film and the brochure and promised to deliver it,” though the Iranian never heard back. (Wonder why two guys that reject the Bible for tradition and both hate Jews cannot get along.)

Even in Iran, “Jesus, The Spirit of God” had a low-key reception, playing to moderate audiences in five Tehran cinemas during the holy month of Ramadan, in October. The film, funded by state broadcasting, faded off the billboards but is far from dead, about to be recycled in a major 20 episode spin-off to be broadcast over state-run national television this year.

Talebzadeh insists it aims to bridge differences between Christianity and Islam (this means that he wants to use it to convert Christians into Islam, not a difficult task since lots of white new age emergent and black nationalist Christians are just about there already) despite the stark divergence from Christian doctrine about Christ’s final hours on earth. (Please note that Rick Warren is hindered by these details, see this link about how Warren and many emergent church leaders are working to “unite” Muslims and Christians just like TBN by practicing capitulation rather than evangelism.)

“It is fascinating for Christians to know that Islam gives such devotion to and has so much knowledge about Jesus,” Talebzadehtold AFP. (TBN liar Jeremiah Cummings, who claims that Muslims can go to heaven by following what the Koran says about Him and do not need to bother with the Bible because they will be killed for possessing it in Muslim countries, has told us this already. Good thing that the early church did not listen to people like Cummings.)

“By making this film I wanted to make a bridge between Christianity and Islam, to open the door for dialogue since there is much common ground between Islam and Christianity,” he said. The director is also keen to emphasise the links between Jesus and one of the most important figures in Shiite Islam, the Imam Mahdi, said to have disappeared 12 centuries ago but whose “return” to earth has been a key tenet of the Ahmadinejad presidency.

Talebzadeh made his name making documentaries about Iran’s 1980-1988 war against Iraq, an important genre in the country’s post-revolutionary cinema. But
such weighty themes, and his latest film on Jesus, compete with domestic gangster thrillers and sugary boy-meets-girl love stories, the movies that continue to draw the biggest audiences in the Islamic Republic.

The bulk of “Jesus, the Spirit of God”, which won an award at the 2007 Religion Today Film Festival in Italy, faithfully follows the traditional tale of Jesus as recounted in the New Testament Gospels (which actually makes it more biblical than “The Passion of the Christ, which was 80% Roman Catholic tradition and the false visions of Roman Catholic mystic nun Katherine Emmerich that, typical of Roman Catholicism, opposes the Bible), a narrative reproduced in the Koran and accepted by Muslims.

But in Talebzadeh’s movie, God saves Jesus, depicted as a fair-complexioned
man
(the Mormon’s Quetzalcoatl Jesus as opposed to the actual Jewish Jesus … see Mormons and Muslims United Oh My What A Surprise) with long hair and a beard, from crucifixion and takes him straight to heaven. “It is frankly said in the Koran that the person who was crucified was not Jesus” but Judas, one of the 12 Apostles and the one the Bible holds betrayed Jesus to the Romans, he said. (Yes, and we Christians are supposed to just toss aside our Bible for the Koran. Then again, he probably knows that Christians do have a long proud history of discarding the Bible and is wondering why Christians are being so hypocritically selective in this matter.) In his film, it is Judas who is crucified.

Islam sees Jesus as one of five great prophets — others being Noah, Moses and Abraham — sent to earth to announce the coming of Mohammed, the final prophet who spread the
religion of Islam. It respects Jesus’ followers as “people of the book”. Iran has tens of thousands of its own Christians who are guaranteed religious freedoms under the constitution — mainly Armenians, though their numbers have fallen sharply since the 1979 Islamic Revolution. (Oh gee, I wonder why.)

Every Christmas, Ahmadinejad and other officials lose no time in sending greetings to Christian leaders including the pope on what they describe as the “auspicious birthday of Jesus Christ, Peace Be Upon Him (PBUH).” (First of all, please note that Islam has no problem celebrating Christmas. Neither do a great many Jews, for that matter. It is THE RESURRECTION that gives them problems: see Acts 4. It is THE RESURRECTION that proved Jesus Christ’s deity. Please note that the original ending of “The Passion Of The Christ” did not mention the resurrection; it was added later after Mel Gibson consulted with PROTESTANTS. According to Mormon doctrine, Islam should be accepted as another Christian denomination incidentally.) In this year’s message, Ahmadinejad said that “peace, friendship and justice will be attained wherever the guidelines of Jesus Christ (PBUH) are realised in the world.” (Jesus Christ said that He came not to bring peace but a sword. But hey, now we see why Christian liberals would rather have dinner with the Taliban than with Will Metzger.)

Shiite Muslims, the majority in Iran, believe Jesus will accompany the Imam Mahdi when he reappears in a future apocalypse to save the world. And Talebzadeh said the TV
version of his film will further explore the links between Jesus and the Mahdi — whose return Ahmadinejad has said his government, which came to power in 2005, is working to hasten. (Their version is no less Biblical than Mary the eternal virgin or than Christian liberal process theology.)

Shiites believe the Mahdi’s reappearance will usher in a new era of peace and harmony. (In no small part because all non – Muslims will be dead. In fairness, Christians believe the same. It is also fair to point out that certain dispensational apocalyptic evangelicals like Pat Robertson, John Hagee, and “gates of hell” insane MIKE HUCKABEE are no different from the Iranian president in that they are trying to pave the way for the return of their Jesus by causing all sorts of violence and strife in the world.)

“We Muslims pray for the ‘Return’ (of Imam Mahdi) and Jesus is part of the return and the end of time,” Talebzadeh said. “Should we, as artists, stand idle until that time? Don’t we have to make an effort?” (The same rationale for Council On Foreign Relations Sun Myung Moon dirty money flowing through his pockets Tim LaHaye’s writing “Left Behind”, which like “The Passion Of The Christ” probably conforms even less to what is actually in the Bible than this Muslim Jesus movie.)

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Steve Munsey: Dual Covenant Theologian Heretic

Posted by Job on December 24, 2007

See this link!This guy is a kingdom guy,” said the Rev. Steve Munsey, gesturing toward Yechiel Eckstein.” Meaning kingdom of heaven of course, and Eckstein is an Orthodox rabbi, not a Messianic rabbi. Which Jesus Christ is the only way into! So add Steve Munsey to the John Hagee school of dispensational prosperity teaching liars who want to fill you full of their demons and take you to the lake of fire for eternity.

This snippet reveals why falsely teaching old covenant concepts out of context is essential to these thieves: “The door opened, and Bishop Frank Munsey walked in. He is Pastor Munsey’s father. Bishop Munsey founded the Christian Family Center 50 years ago and then passed it along to his son. Someday Pastor Munsey will turn it over to his own son, Kent, who is now the center’s youth pastor. ”We call it the Levitical order of succession,” David Jordan Allen, the associate pastor, told me.” Where in the New Testament does it say that church offices are functions of heredity? No, it says that church offices are functions of being filled with the Holy Spirit and being known for high personal character, not being drunkards or sexually immoral, having your house under subjection, AND NOT BEING A CHASER OF FILTHY LUCRE.

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Ties Between Mike Huckabee And John Hagee Discovered! (He Also Has Ties To Kenneth Copeland, Tim LaHaye, And Rick Warren)

Posted by Job on December 6, 2007

It is getting harder and harder to avoid applying the “how can two walk together unless they be agreed”of Amos 3:3 to Mike Huckabee. I have already given you the ties between Huckabee and Kenneth Copeland: Mike Huckabee Defends Kenneth Copeland!, as well as those between Huckabee and Rick Warren: Why The Media Likes Mike Huckabee So Much: He Is A Rick Warren Worker!. Well, now here comes news that Tim LaHaye of the false doctrine Left Behind novels (I am not calling it false doctrine because of the pretribulation stance but rather because of many other things see More “Left Behind” False Doctrine Exposed, Should Christians Commit Murder For “The Cause”? and False Doctrine In “Left Behind”: The Remnant Teaches Against the Doctrine of the God-Sent Strong Delusion) as well as a “Christian marital sexuality” book that is just as perverse as the teachings of Juanita Bynum and Thomas Weeks III (like them he takes the false position that it is OK to defile someone with ungodly sexual activity so long as that person is your spouse). Well, LaHaye just endorsed Huckabee.

Now Tim LaHaye with his books and movies promotes the flavor of pretribulation dispensationalism that is heavily contributed to the creation of precisely the “attack Iran to protect Israel” Christian Zionism political worldview that has allowed John Hagee to exploit it and become a political player. (LaHaye is also himself a leading figure of the religious right through the Council For National Policy, a group heavily indebted to cult leader Sun Myung Moon behind the scenes … see Want A List Of Pastors Who Took Sun Myung Moon’s Money?, and a Christian Zionist in his own right.)

Well, the Christian brother at Pro Libertate has discovered a longtime connection between Hagee’s people and Huckabee.

Quoting him: “Late last Summer, a cover story in Strang’s New Man magazine anointed Huckabee as the heir apparent to George W. Bush and Ronald Reagan. In recent weeks, Huckabee has tapped Strang to serve on his “Faith and Values Coalition,” which is intended to attract money from, and consolidate support within, the Christian Right. Strang served a similar role in the early days of Bush the Lesser’s first presidential campaign. Strang is also a regional director of Hagee’s Christians United for Israel, a pressure group that describes itself – without a detectable hint of irony – as a “Christian AIPAC,” as if one such organization weren’t a sufficient burden and blight upon our land .. Stephen Strang is the human vinculum between Huckabee and Hagee. Strang, a long-time friend and business associate of Hagee, presides over a Pentecostal publishing empire; among Strang’s imprints is Front Line books, which has published several of Hagee’s books, including his latest, In Defense of Israel.” Now this “In Defense of Israel” is the same one where Hagee denies that Jesus Christ is the Messiah! See John Hagee Claims That Jesus Christ Was Not The Messiah, More On John Hagee Jesus Did Not Come To Be The Messiah Apostasy Book, and Can We Do Anything To Speed The Return Of Jesus Christ? Why I Say NO!

And this goes back to Amos 3:3. See how these people who agree walk together? It is no coincidence, but rather because they are dealing with the same evil spirits: a lust for power and wealth that causes them to come together in like mind and united purpose because they have given themselves over to them. Folks, this is serious business, and it is for God’s people, not those who have sold out to the world and believe that the kingdom of God can be advanced through its ways rather than by what Jesus Christ did on the cross and the workings of the Holy Spirit through the church. These religious right folks are honestly trying to re – establish Constantine’s imperial Roman state church in America with its “state theology of Eusebius” as its doctrine, which actually makes them a bigger threat than the religious left!

Christians, what will happen will happen. God is in ultimate control, and things like who will be made leaders of nations are all part of His plan of bringing history to its conclusion and the return of His Son Jesus Christ, who Himself does not know the day or hour that said event will happen. So do not fret because of these things … they were prophesied long ago in Matthew 24, Revelation, Daniel, and similar. Our tasks are 1.) to persevere until the end and 2.) not allow the wicked state of the world to cause us to reject 1.) by joining and supporting these anti – Christ movements. All you have to do is look at how “Christian broadcasting” and the “Christian media” have worked together to create a class of celebrities with a lot of money, power, and influence that are capable of pulling such a thing off: again consider the influence of things like Paul Crouch’s TBN empire, Rod Parsley’s get out the vote efforts being credited for George W. Bush carrying Ohio (Parsley originally attached himself to Roman Catholic Rick Santorum), and now this. Please know that in the very near future, these people are going to have more influence still.

How? Well so far the religious right has been thus that: a movement of white conservative evangelical Christians. But now they are expanding. First Barack HUSSEIN Obama then Hillary Clinton spoke at Rick Warren’s Saddleback Church under the auspices of “we must all come together to combat AIDS”. Please recall that Pat Robertson’s CBN endorsed Warren’s invitation to Obama, and the invite to Clinton has been met with silence from the evangelical leadership that has been unwilling to stand up to either Rick Warren or the emergent church (see Abrahamic Faith Continues The Battle Against Rick Warren Purpose Driven Apostasy In Southern Baptist Convention). Another thing about Huckabee … he is bragging about how he received 48% of the black vote in Arkansas. Come on, the man is a very gifted Baptist preacher with a moderate populist economic message, so what prevents this guy from going into virtually any black church and bringing down the house, especially with Barack Obama offending some of the more conservative black Christian Democrats with his support for abortion and gay rights (see Pastors: Keep Obama Balaam out of your pulpit!)?

See Christians, Satan does not care about your race or religious affiliation, he just wants to see your soul receive the same fate as he. Do not let the false promises of religion and politics be the tool that he uses to lead you astray. Christians, if Mike Huckabee is the next president or vice president of the United States (I still thinking that a Giuliani – Huckabee ticket is more likely … please recall that Pat Robertson endorsed the former Is The Pat Robertson Endorsement Of Rudy Giuliani An Attempt To Freeze Out Ron Paul?), let it happen without your help. Please recall that this has been my position on moneychanger Mormon Mitt Romney from day one (see why I call him a moneychanger here: because it is true! The Unsaved Have More Discernment Over Mitt Romney Than The Religious Right), and it applies to Mike Huckabee as well.

And in the event that an endorsement from James Dobson makes you think that it is OK to trust Huckabee, please see this: Warren, Robertson, Dobson, Other Evangelical Leaders Were Recruited For Globalist Agendas. And lest some of you are tempted to write me off as some crank complainer who offers no solutions, let me say this: Jesus Christ is our solution. He always has been and always will be. Our losing sight of that fact and trying to go after worldly solutions (after “Christianizing” them first) is the root of so many of our evils.

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Kenneth Copeland Appearing In Ad With Mike Huckabee. In Unrelated News, Huckabee’s Poll Numbers Rising Among Evangelicals.

Posted by Job on November 23, 2007

See

Huckabee Undeterred by Senate Probe of Copeland

and

Huckabee Surging in Iowa with Evangelicals

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Can We Do Anything To Speed The Return Of Jesus Christ? Why I Say NO!

Posted by Job on November 20, 2007

Up until very recently I sincerely felt that Christians could speed the return of Jesus Christ by doing works, such as spreading the gospel. But now I find out by reading “Messiah In The Old Testament” by the (rather liberal but still orthodox) Walter Kaiser out that the Pharisees had that same error. They were correct in presuming that their failure to keep the law resulted in their nation being sent into captivity and subjected to brutal subjugation. They were correct that the prophets who foretold their current fate also spoke of a coming Messiah. So then, what was their error? A perfectly understandable mistake: that if disobeying the law caused them to lose their nation, monarchy, and sovereignty, then keeping the law would cause these things to be restored by the Messiah that their prophets spoke of. Of course, the natural progression was that the Jews could speed the return of the Messiah by being VERY ZEALOUS, but that being “less than zealous” would hinder his coming. That is why their actions against Jesus Christ, who like John Hagee His being Messiah they rejected, were very understandable … they thought that His using His influence with the people to disobey their interpretation of the law was hindering the restoration of Israel and the Messianic age.

This belief did not die, incidentally. The reason why Jews went from tolerating Jesus Christ’s Jewish followers as a sect within Judaism (if an errant bothersome one … though they far from the only ones considered errant and bothersome) to expelling them from their synagogues as apostates and heretics was because they were ultimately scapegoated for the destruction of the temple in 70 AD and Jerusalem in 117 AD. Why? Because they were following the Man who taught them to disobey the law, causing God to punish us as He did in 586 BC. (Of course, this is not said directly, instead they say that the reason why the second temple was destroyed was “the lack of unity.”) And though this is similarly rarely spoken of, some Jewish leaders blamed the Holocaust on a number of Jews going after secularism and liberalism (Conservative and Reform Judaism) and a general failure to keep the Sabbath. And to this day, the goal of rabbinic Judaism is to cause God to grant the Jewish nation their Messiah.

Is it an oversimplification to say that the Pharisees were too preoccupied and self – assured in their doctrines that they could bring cause the Messiah to come through works that they did not recognize the Messiah when He came to them not by their works to do their Will but by God’s grace to do God’s Will? For it must be said: the Word of God says that if a man labors, he must reap the benefits thereof. If even the ox that treads the corn should not be muzzled, how much more so should a man that labors be? So the inevitable conclusion is that with anything that man produces with works, man can take some credit for it. Man can take some ownership of it. Man can have some control over it. As such, the Messiah produced by works would have been THEIR Messiah to do THEIR Will, even if only least in part. So when Jesus Christ came to do not their Will in any sense but God’s, and was so not owned by or beholden to man that He did no so much as have a human father, they rejected Him because He was not the creation of their own hands. Nay, He was not the creation of ANY, but rather the uncreated God, the Word of the Trinity.

That is why our own salvation cannot be the result of works. If we labored in any least sense, in any jot or tittle, then that would give us that much ownership rights and control over our souls. That would deprive God not only of His due glory, but His ownership rights as our sole creator and sole managers of our destiny. And since works produce works, it would give preachers and evangelists ownership rights over those converted by their efforts! Now imagine the effect of this … the great masses of the redeemed dwelling with God in heaven, not only with each having a claim on himself and many having claims on others, but the combined net worth effect of their collective claims! For eternity! (Believe in interest perhaps?) So I say “God forbid!” Such a thing cannot not be and will not be. What say you?

And that brings us to the Imminent return of our Lord and Savior Y’shua HaMashiach, better known as Jesus Christ. If it were possible to facilitate or speed His return by the gospel or any other works, we would have a claim on His Return and Him with it! Since all things were created by the Word (John 1:3) through Him we would have a claim on the entire creation. And since He is one with the Holy Spirit, we would through Him have a claim on the Holy Spirit. And since He is one with the Father, we would through Him have a claim on the Father. And because sinful man would have a valid legal claim on the Father, the Father would no longer be holy and no longer sovereign. The result? He would be a false god, no god at all! God forbid that such a thing should happen. So now, Christian, do you see the error of works based theology?

Yet works based theology is alive and well in Christendom, and it is not limited to the Roman Catholic Church. It is alive and well in the Protestant movement too. Let me give you three ways.

1. Tithing. The practice was for the Old Testament only and for a specific purpose: to support the priests who stood before God’s presence as man’s mediator. The Book of Hebrews tells us that Jesus Christ is our priest forever after the order of Melchisedec. From that, if you continue to tithe to your pastor or church, two things can reasonably be inferred. A. It is your pastor and your church and not Jesus Christ that is the mediator between you and the Father. Please realize that such is the position of the Roman Catholic Church. I cannot help but – after a somewhat whimsical fashion – wonder if Matthew 23:9And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven” is a prophetic polemic against the Roman Catholic practice to come. B. That Jesus Christ either never came, never died, or never resurrected. Those who continue this practice in ignorance of the truth do so in ignorance of the truth. But to those that have come into the knowledge of the truth, new covenant giving is to be directed by 2 Corinthians 9:7 which reads: “Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.”

2. The prosperity/Word of Faith movement, where we are taught that we receive things from God not according to grace, but by works. The prosperity doctrine the works are actually somewhat indirect through obedience (to quote Jesse DuPlantis, “the prosperity doctrine is an obedience doctrine”) and compulsory giving (John Hagee teaches that those who do not tithe will have their wages cursed by God, and that you will receive a greater blessing for giving to Jews and Israel than elsewhere). But the Word of Faith movement is more direct in telling people that you can bit a bridle and harness in the mouth of God, hop upon His back, and drive and command Him to use His Power to control nature and history as you see fit! It was from Albert Pendarvis of http://www.radiomissions.org – who ironically is located a few miles away from Jesse DuPlantis – whom I first heard warn Christians against those preachers that were “commanding God, not respecting Him, and misusing His Name” in the charismatic movement, especially the faith healers. Of course I was a full gospel Kenneth Hagin Word of Faith/prosperity adherent at the time so I rejected him at the time, but now I must acknowledge the truth in his preaching in this matter. These doctrines deny grace and try to co – opt, manipulate, and control God.

3. Christian Zionism. If you are a dispensational pre – tribulation rapture doctrine adherent, I shall not speak against you for believing in that doctrine. What I do speak against is how so many pastors who hold this view teach that we can speed or facilitate the return of Jesus Christ based on it! For instance, some Christians are helping finance the return of Jews to Israel. But the Bible says that it is the Messiah’s job to do this in Jeremiah 23:3-6. Some Christians are helping Jews breed red heifers so that the Jews can restart their sacrifices in the temple. Why are we facilitating that which we no there is no profit but instead is a snare, an act of rebellion against everything that Hebrews says? Are we helping the Muslims practice their religion? Why not? Are they not the children of Abraham too? Are we aiding the Hindus, Mormons, and Scientologists in their abominations? Did Jesus Christ come in the flesh, die on the cross for our sins, and rise again on the third day or not? Did He do such a thing for the Jew first and then the Gentile or did He not? Are we ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ in the Jews’ presence? For the Jews’ sake? Well what John Hagee is now preaching is merely the fruition, the logical conclusion of that mindset!

And speaking of John Hagee, it is not enough to speak of his dual covenant theology, though it is bad. Hagee, Robertson, and their fellow travelers use “defending Israel” as an license to justify whatever level of atrocity and militarization of the Middle East they desire. With Hagee, his running a “Christian AIPAC” gives a third tier televangelist from San Antonio great wealth and power. And as for Robertson, who does own oil interests, how much is his personal wealth increased by oil being over $100 a barrel? And how much higher will the price of oil go if our government assassinates Hugo Chavez as Pat Robertson suggested? How much higher will it go if we invade Iran as Hagee demands? Now Hagee prophesied (back when I was a fan of his show) that we would be at war with Iran by now and that Jesus Christ would come back a few months later. Put all the details in his best – selling books. A false prophet that no one has held accountable? Of course!

But consider what would happen if Hagee was RIGHT. That would mean that it would be possible for even crooks, liars, thieves, and false prophets to have a claim on God if works doctrines be true. Though they are false preachers, the gospel is preached through these fellows, and people are saved by it. But you can see the effects of people perceiving works doctrines to be true? These pastors have tens, possibly hundreds, of millions of people at their command, onward Christian soldiers marching to war! Blood, violence, disease, starvation, death, and poverty for the many. All for the profit of a few. Is that the gospel of Jesus Christ? Maybe a false Jesus Christ that you can own through works, but not the true Jesus Christ obtained only by grace. We are to show love to God’s people and His holy city, certainly, but the way that the Bible tells us to. Pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Support the legitimate needs of Jews out of love and obedience to God, not expecting blessings in return or in support of a political agenda. And to also give aid to the Palestinians so as to not show partiality.

So in the final analysis we must come to the conclusion that man can do nothing to speed the return of Jesus Christ. No one knows the day or the hour. Jesus Christ is returning when the Father sees fit. The sovereign God will determine when Christ will return. God is not hindered by man, He is not frustrated by man, He is not dependent upon man. God is sovereign. 2 Peter 3:9 declares that it is by the grace of God and not the works of man that has hindered the coming of Jesus Christ to this day, and it will be by that same grace that Jesus Christ comes to rescue the church from this life and punish all else for its uncleanness. Yes, it is said that Christ will not return until the gospel is preached throughout the world, and that does mean that evangelism and missionary work should be done in Jerusalem, in Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth from the least to the greatest, the youngest to the oldest. But even that will not be our doing lest any man should boast, but rather God’s doing. I am going to co – opt the words that so offended the renowned missionary William Carey and say that when it pleases God to evangelize the world He will do it without your help or mine. He will do it without the ecumenical movements. He will do it without the TBN satellites that Paul Crouch asserted in one of his mass mailings was the angel flying around the world proclaiming the gospel in Revelation 14:6.

The sovereign God will do this by His grace! And when history comes to a close, all creation will see that God does not need us. Instead, it is we that need Him. The only question is whether people realize this in due time or in past time. Those who do so in due time will receive eternal life as a reward. Those who fail? Eternal wrath and destruction. Will you do so know? Will you bow before the Great King of creation, acknowledge that you need Him, and submit yourself to Him? I urge you to do so now, for tomorrow is not promised. There are many people that were here yesterday that presumed that they would be here today that are not. Are you better than they are? If so, how? I say this not to frighten or manipulate you but rather because I am concerned about you, and also because it is undeniably true. If you have not acknowledged the sovereignty of God, please do so. Follow The Three Step Salvation Plan right now.

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Paula White Claims She Is A Better Preacher Than Apostle Paul!

Posted by Job on November 15, 2007

In the process of Brother Laz’ weblog a visit, I happened upon a video where Paula White compares her preaching to that of to Apostle Paul. Now Brother Laz shows more mercy towards Paula White than I have. Maybe I will one day reach where he is in Christian love, mercy, and maturity. But where I am right now, I say UNLESS THIS WOMAN REPENTS SHE IS GOING TO SPEND AN ETERNITY IN THE LAKE OF FIRE AND WILL TAKE A MULTITUDE OF PEOPLE WITH HER!

Anyway, White says that Paul never took hermeneutics, never took homiletics, that he was boring (says she NEVER puts anybody to sleep). But do not worry, according to her, it doesn’t matter because what we need isn’t PREACHING anyway. Instead, what we need anyway is “a word from the Lord.” Yet, she claims that Paul’s words are useful to her. Why? Because according to her exegesis of the Pauline scriptures, GOD WANTS HER TO BE RICH! That is right, she used (selective, out of context, and outright inaccurate) quotations from the writings of Paul to support her prosperity doctrine. And then she claims that Romans 1:8 means that no one has the right to call her a lying blaspheming heretic that is going to bust the lake of fire wide open unless she repents. See below:

Well, I can understand her desire to belittle Paul because lest we forget it is Paul that told us that women are not supposed to be pastors – especially not head pastors – in the first place. Paul also says that you cannot spouse – swap and be a pastor. And Paul also says that Christian women should have modest appearance for various reasons, which is inconvenient to Paula, Inc. as represented in the video below.

Paul was talking about PEOPLE LIKE HER in 2 Timothy 3. Oh yes, despite his being lacking in the art of homiletics, Paul manages to totally destroy her prosperity doctrine AND tell people what to do regarding those who preach it in a single verse: 1 Timothy 6:5.

Paula White loves to say that she is not ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Well neither am I, and that is why I make a priority of speaking against people like her that pervert it. Speaking of which, do you know that Juanita Bynum is being featured in an upcoming issue of Essence Magazine, which has long been promoting homosexuality, capitalist consumerism, elitism, and New Age? What will her message to the readers of this publication be? Why victimization, of course!

Oh yes, and this is the best part: PAULA WHITE IS TOTALLY WRONG! Lest we forget, Paul was a Jewish scholar. Jews had been studying hermeneutics and homiletics for hundreds of years – possibly longer – in Paul’s day. Hermeneutics means analyzing and applying texts. When Paul analyzed the Old Testament scriptures and applied them to New Testament doctrine in a way that used the long – established Old Testament scriptures to explain and develop the New Testament doctrine WHILE AT THE SAME TIME using New Testament doctrine to give a greater and more fulfilled meaning to the long established Old Testament scriptures, he was doing hermeneutics par excellence.

Homiletics? Using rhetoric in preaching. Not only did Paul use the diatribe, polemic, hyperbole, etc. but he used multiple rhetorical forms in the same epistle. Some scholars say that Paul invented new styles of rhetoric in his epistles because the literary forms are so complex that they can’t figure them out or classify them. Oh yes, and Paul did produced his hermeneutic and homiletic writings things in plain language that was understandable to everyone from the wealthy intellectual to the penniless illiterate in his day. Though he was a very well educated man, he never once spoke over the heads of – or talked down to – his audience, nor did he pander to the arrogance of the elites. As such, Paul’s homiletics have been emulated by preachers ever since. That is … until the rise of the church of judge not that Paula White is an apostle of apostasy in.

So in short, Paula White is a liar, and an incontrovertible grotesque one at that. And if you didn’t know that already, well it is my job to tell you. Now I leave it to Paula White’s many defenders to come up with an explanation of why Paula White’s standing up and saying things that cannot possibly be true in any context to the roaring approval of her congregation has anything to do with Christianity. Why a woman that stands up and willfully lies to her congregation in order to glorify and elevate herself should not be judged, but loved and prayed for until she is restored. Why you would advocate a liar remaining in the pulpit so that she can lead people astray with more lies.

It just so happens that I have a few Bible commentary books in my possession and know what homiletics and hermeneutics mean. I also have a DVD on hermeneutics from Ray Comfort’s ministry (it is called Herman Who, please buy it, it is only $20, the cost of one of Paula White’s DVDs, and I know this because I used to buy those too before, well, I started buying Bible commentaries and DVDs on hermeneutics). So I was immediately able to spot the lie. The vast majority of Paula White’s members and supporters do not, White knows this, and cravenly willfully took advantage of them to serve no purpose other than to glorify herself.

This is not about me worshiping Paul, by the way. Paul is not even my favorite New Testament writer, and I actually prefer the Old Testament to the New Testament anyway. This is about a woman who chooses to be a liar in the pulpit. If you want to defend and follow a liar and accuse me of worshiping Paul to justify it, that is your business. But the bottom line is that you cannot read this without being confronted with the fact that Paula White lies to glorify herself. What you choose to do with that information is between you and God.

Update: Please see IndependentConservative’s superior treatment of this video

Paula White Trashes the Words of Paul and Empowers Greed.

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Is It JUDGING To Say That Homosexuality Endorsing Tammy Faye Bakker Is In The Lake Of Fire? And TBN Has (Implicitly) Endorsed Homosexuality!

Posted by Job on October 30, 2007

SoldierServant has a powerful spiritual argument for Christians “judging” with scripture to back it up! See his link below:

Christians ARE Supposed To Judge

So “the church of not judge” is teetering on apostasy and heresy! Inspired by his post, I will deal with Tammy Faye Bakker Messner. I admit, I was deceived by this woman. I sincerely believed that she had recommitted her life to Yeshua HaMashiach after her fall in the PTL scandal and her marital and health problems. I actually received emotional inspiration by watching her faithfully read her Bible while on “The Surreal Life” reality show (which I had to stop watching after an episode because of some of the other participants on it) and her frequent testimonies on Larry King Live and TBN.

But now the truth is out. On one of her TBN appearances, she vigorously defended the “ministry” of her son, and did so to the roaring approval of the audience and interviewer. Regrettably, I do not have that clip, but I have two clips below of her TBN interview by Matt Crouch at the bottom. What is the big deal? Well Jay Bakker supports homosexuality. He says that God spoke to Him and gave him a revelation that He was changing the Bible: that where homosexuality was considered a sin in the past, it was now permissible. Now this is actually worse than the gay rights advocates that claim that the scriptures condemning homosexuality are not authoritative, have been misinterpreted, or need to be brought into the modern context. Instead, Jay Bakker claims the Word of God to be eternal, inerrant, inspired, and the final authority, but that God merely changed His Mind! Now this is apostasy, blasphemy, and heresy of the highest degree!

Of course, claiming that TBN does not know that Jay Bakker is in the streets of Atlanta telling homosexuals that their abomination is just fine (and Bakker also endorses other sins incidentally) is ridiculous: not only do these preachers get ALL the information (especially on someone so prominent as the Bakkers, who helped found TBN along with the Crouches let us not forget!) but it has made national news on CNN and other outlets. So by allowing this woman to defend her son’s false ministry on her airwaves, they are giving consent to the sin of homosexuality just as surely as TD Jakes is by promoting the pro – homosexual views of Dr. Phil McGraw. Oh yes, and that means that Robert Schuller is too, for he had Dr. Phil on his show this year as well, with Dr. Phil defending his false Christianity right about the time that Pastor Bill Keller was denouncing him and his boss new age witch Oprah Winfrey!

Alas, the Atlanta Journal – Constitution, the worst newspaper in the country, printed two articles (here and here) about Bakker’s memorial service. This is the basis that I use for my proposition that Bakker is in the lake of fire, which appears in both. “A woman so nonjudgmental that she loved everybody. That that didn’t always win her unanimous approval was driven home by the presence of a handful of protesters outside the memorial service. Brandishing signs reading “Tammy’s in Hell” and several more unprintable things, they were there to signal their disapproval of Messner’s public embrace of gay people.” Also: The love she has received from so many people within the gay community, I’m eternally grateful for,” Bakker said to a huge burst of applause in the cathedral.

You know, I was completely taken in by Jay Bakker’s act. Why? Because of the vigorous endorsement of his “Revolution Church” by Harry Potter – loving Christianity Today! So let’s see, Christianity Today endorsed homosexual sin endorsing Jay Bakker and homosexual sin endorsing J.K. Rowling and the homosexuality commercials aimed at our small children Spongebob Squarepants and Shark Tale … hmmm do you see a trend in the making? Now I am not ready to make the leap and say that Christianity Today supports homosexuality (though Paul Crouch’s TBN is another matter, and to the tune of $425,000!) but it goes to show that if you swim through enough trash by endorsing it on order to stay “culturally relevant (and see this as well)” you are going to get some stink on you.

Now look, it is VERY POSSIBLE that Tammy Faye Bakker Messner repented with her dying breath or sometime before. Absent that, we Christians should not be lily – livered in declaring her eternal fate, or that of anyone else that rejects the true gospel of Yeshua HaMashiach for apostasy. And no, this is not about Tammy Faye Bakker Messner, who is dead. I am not Roman Catholic, so I hold that there is nothing can be done about those that are dead and gone. This is about the LIVING: the false preachers that are still out there and the people that follow them.

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TD JAKES HAS A GAY SON!

Posted by Job on October 23, 2007

Update: please see Does Running A Biblical Church Require Five Point Calvinism? and comment.

Gay Christian Movement Watch has it!

TD Jakes repositioning with Dr. Phil?

Some believe this is because one of his twin sons is gay. The young man was spotted at a black gay club in Atlanta during the popular 2006 MegaFest. One of the more recurrent search questions bringing people to GCM Watch is “TD Jakes’ gay son”, so there is considerable talk already out there. Reportedly, the young man has already told his father he is gay.”

What does this have to do with Jakes? After all, he is NOT responsible for the behavior of his son. I would NEVER claim this to be the case OR use this as something to attack Jakes. We ALL have to stand before God in judgment OURSELVES AS INDIVIDUALS, and the very fact that I have to answer to God one day for everything that I say and do is precisely why I would NEVER resort to such a cheap trick, let alone to spreading rumors or gossip which the Bible also explicitly calls sin. But where this DOES condemn Jakes is the shift in his ministry towards acceptance of homosexuality, and that includes interviewing the protege’ of the New Age witch Dr. Phil, who teaches that homosexuality is inherited, on his show and, according to Gay Christian Movement Watch, endorsing Dr. Phil’s opinions on TD Jakes own weblog: see his weblog entry. This direction has “earned” Jakes his own section on gay Christian movement watch: gcmwatch.wordpress.com/category/bishop-t-d-jakes. Now I first read about Jakes’ moving to the pro – homosexual side from the now regrettably banned Youtube user Ephesians511, but his increasing refusal to condemn homosexuality, his claiming that “God did not tell us how to deal with AIDS” on Nightline, and now his alignment with the “sodomy is biology” gay rights crowd confirms it!

Listen folks, this is no game. Jesus Christ is coming back, and this world is going to be judged and destroyed by fire. You folks that continue to defend these apostates (again, both Jakes and Robert Schuller have had heretic Dr. Phil on AT MINIMUM) are going to be counted like unto them and be destroyed in the lake of fire right along with them!

Update: Brother IndependentConservative goes even further than I do! So this makes me feel better about my thoughts that I MIGHT be doing something wrong by making this post.

  1. IndependentConservative Says:
    October 23rd, 2007 at 11:48 pm eHealtheland – Jakes son being a homosexual DOES have to do with Jakes directly and it DOES impact Jakes position in the church directly. Consider Gods guidelines given to man for church leaders, in particular:
    Titus 1:5-6 (King James Version)

    5 For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:

    6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.

    This matters because TD Jakes has assumed a position of church leadership. This DISQUALIFIES HIM! His children are not faithful believers, one has been accused of unruly behavior. Homosexuality is an abomination and all the abominations noted in Leviticus 18 are still very much abominations before God. Sure all sin is sin, but not all sins are abominations.

    He has failed to rule his house well as noted in:
    1 Timothy 3:4-5 (King James Version)

    4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;

    5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

    And God gave these instructions for obvious reasons. Put up a man who has gay children and you’ll never get a leader who stands firm against behavior that is an abomination.

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  3. IndependentConservative Says:
    October 24th, 2007 at 9:35 am eHealtheland said:

    IndependentConservative: What of Samuel’s sons who turned against the faith? That was not held against Samuel. Please recall that God did not judge Eli because his sons were evil, but rather because “Eli restrained them not.”

    I’m not saying Jakes will go to hell because of the sins of his children, certainly not. Jakes will go the hell for his on sins. TD Jakes has taken the heresy noted in Acts 8:20 to levels beyond even what Simon attempted.

    Let’s keep in mind, my assertion is about QUALIFICATIONS FOR CHURCH LEADERSHIP. Not Old Covenant prophet status. 1 Timothy 3 was written for the church, not for Hosea. God told Hosea to marry a harlot because of the sins of Israel and even then that was not the standard. God told THE CHURCH to pick men who are blameless, of one wife, with children who are believers, not found engaging in unruly behavior. And certainly our yolk is easier and the burden lighter than the Mosaic law of the old covenant, although in many ways the law of grace and liberty is of a higher standard than Mosaic law, because we now must adhere to the highest order of love through Christ. We are not given an exception in 1 Timothy 3 for men who fail to rule their own house well and fail to have a family in subjection, because the man decided to marry a harlot or because the children are homosexual. And holding to this is far easier than what others had to hold to before Christ. If the man’s house is out of order because his wife is slutting around or his children are gay, HE’S DISQUALIFIED TO LEAD SAINTS TODAY. Jakes is viewed as a church leader on the NON-BIBLICAL standard of man, which is, “but he sounds good and look at all the people he draws in”

    The bottom line is this, either we uphold the standard God proclaimed through Christ via the Holy Spirit, as written by the hand of Paul or we don’t. If we uphold the standard, this alone disqualifies Jakes for church leadership, but we know there’s so much more.

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Paula White’s Atonement Scam Is Spreading. Do They Get Together And Plan This?

Posted by Job on September 22, 2007

When I was in Tallahassee attending college, there was this running joke that the local gas station owners would meet every Saturday night at the Waffle House by the airport to collectively determine what the gas prices would be for the next week. Since so many of these false preachers use the same scams to fleece money from the flock and sap money, prayers, and energy away from the legitimate works of the gospel, I wonder if they collaborate behind the scenes to come up with new scams. “Do you think that they will go for this one? Nah, not enough people will be able to afford that offering. What about this one? Nah, a lot will give, but the offering size will be too small. Why don’t we bring this one back? Well, we made a lot of money on that in the late 70s and early 80s, but the church is into different stuff now, the fall of the Berlin wall ruined our best scams making people think that communists were the anti – Christ. We were going to re-work it by scaring everyone with the Muslim threat, but now Jeremiah Cummings has taught us how to get the money coming in from the Muslim countries (see The Religious Industry and Muslims United, Oh My!). So now we have to appeal to the modern fashionable church mindset. Like what? You know, everyone is interested in learning about the early church and re – examining the Old Testament. I know, we can come up with a whole bunch of scams based on Old Testament festivals and holidays!” So first they trot out Paula White with it because you know she is a woman and we do not believe in holding women accountable or responsible, which makes them very useful as “pastors”: Paula White Claims That Jesus Christ Died In Vain! And after she opens the door, now other snakes are slithering through: see IndependentConservative’s The Jewish Day of Atonement is OBSOLETE. The Lord Jesus Christ Reigns!

This follows the “firstfruits” scam that Paula White and Eddie Long were pushing a few months back: Eddie Long and Paula White, Selling Supposed Favor With God.

Folks, you had better stop playing with God by following these people. Instead, follow Jesus Christ and those who preach and seek true doctrine. Are you saved, born again through Christ Jesus? If not follow The Three Step Salvation Plan!

Oh yes, for the religious industry courting Muslims video:

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