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The Necessity Of The Holy Trinity

Posted by Job on October 26, 2011

Motivated at least in part by the current controvery over oneness heretic T.D. Jakes, (also here and here) please read two very good pieces on the importance of the Holy Trinity. Hopefully, this will help Christians understand that we are to separate with heretics, not dialogue with them.

On The Trinity: Part One – Hermeneutics

On the Trinity: Part Two – The Trinity, Central to Apologetics and Evangelism

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National Religious Broadcasters Using Oneness Modalist Heretic TD Jakes To Get Out The Vote

Posted by Job on May 12, 2008

Driving to work this morning viewing the effects of the terrible thunderstorms that spared my neighborhood but hard hit the one right next to mine, I was listening to Christian radio. Out of the blue comes TD Jakes’ booming voice. In it, he first speaks of how much he loves America and so forth. I immediately thought of Jakes doing this to exploit anger over Barack Hussein Obama, Michelle Obama, and Jeremiah Wright’s considerably less than jingoistic statements and actions. Then he went into his exhortation spiel for people to register and get out to vote. 

First, I see Lifeway Bookstores, owned by the Southern Baptist Convention, selling TD Jakes’ doctrinal error (oneness pentecostalism and the Word of Faith/prosperity doctrine are but a few of his MANY problems) and now the National Religious Broadcasters are using this guy. I had been using the NRB as a sort of a refuge from the blatant charismania that you will find on The Word Network, Trinity Broadcasting Network, Daystar, etc. So I just ignored the heavy Pat Robertson presence on the channel, as well as their “white Europeans are the descendants of the children of Israel … the Danube River is so named because of the tribe of Dan” show that comes on early in the morning. I also ignored their embrace of the Ellen White Seventh Day Adventist cult. So I suppose that I cannot cast NRB aside on Jakes’ account, since the ones that I just named are hardly better – if anything some might be worse – or else I would be reacting out of a personal dislike for Jakes rather than on principle. (On the other hand, Slice of Laodicea has criticized NRB, albeit for different reasons, such as this post stating that not one red cent of NRB’s $5 BILLION IN ASSETS is being used to defend the faith from Oprah Winfrey.)

Incidentally, speaking of TD Jakes and PR spots, he has another one out (I did not catch the sponsor!) promoting single sex education, saying that “boys need their own schools so that they will be able to, you know, romp and stuff (his choice of words not mine!) and that boys learn differently from girls and needed their own classrooms in order to be accommodated. So … it looks like Jakes is not that far removed from Jeremiah Wright’s separatist doctrines after all? 

I have to be honest, back when I was part of the religious right and allowing my worldview to be shaped by the Washington Times and the National Review, I was in full agreement. But now … I just recall reading about this inner city public school that went all male. Sure, the discipline problems decreased and the test scores went up. But when they interviewed the boys that attended the school, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WANTED THEM TO BRING THE GIRLS BACK! Why? Because, er … BOYS LIKE GIRLS! Or at least they are supposed to anyway. Perhaps now that T.D. Jakes is on board with the new world order’s gay rights agenda (and yes this is relevant … perhaps due to his son) he thinks it is OK. To me, the whole single sex education thing … who wants it? Certainly not the kids. Not the administrators or teachers. Parents go for it only because they are desperate for any hook or angle to improve the failing school systems that the government is ruining on purpose. Not even the old fashioned religious sorts – of which I am one – think that it is a good idea anymore, where you were supposed to keep boys and girls separate in their little boarding or finishing schools (where they were supposed to look OH SO CUTE in their little uniforms I guess) UNTIL GRADUATION DAY WHEN YOU MARRY THEM OFF.

Sorry people, but society has changed. Not all of the changes have been for the good, but methinks that one of the most important things for a boy to learn from school is how to treat a lady and how to behave yourself in their presence. For some of us guys, those things do not come naturally, and you only learn them through trial and error. Especially error. (If you don’t learn to handle competition and rejection in junior high and high school, how on earth are you supposed to handle being turned down for jobs, promotions, college choices, etc. later in life?) So … HOW ON EARTH ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO LEARN THOSE THINGS IF THERE ARE NO GIRLS AROUND TO LEARN THEM FROM? 

Like I said, TD Jakes may have his own reasons for wanting to turn your local public school into Morehouse College or similar, and whatever they are I oppose them 100%. All the more reason why the Southern Baptist Convention should not be selling this guy’s books and NRB shouldn’t be using him for their get out the vote campaign. But I suppose that this oneness anti – Trinitarian heretic is just too good at making money and moving public opinion for these people to pass up. That is, unless they are actually along with Jakes, on his side. After all, the Southern Baptists refuse to do anything about the likes of New Age heretic Erwin McManus and Council on Foreign Relations worker Rick Warren (and Richard Land too?), and as stated earlier, Al Sharpton Al Gore global warming propagandist partner Pat Robertson is a major partner with the NRB. 

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The Brain Of A Typical False Preacher!

Posted by Job on March 29, 2008

This may seem harsh, but it is utterly Biblical! I have “adapted” this from Spiritual Pathways Ministries, who used it to refer to a specific false preacher, but when you realize how the Bible describes the depravity of false preachers and their followers,  the shoe fits them all, so I am going to make them all wear it!

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The specific areas in mind are:

ATTENTION SPAN: If you will notice that cranial area is small. That is the attention they pay to what the Bible actually says, and also the attention that they pay to the words and example of Christians that are actually trying to understand and obey the Bible. Another more medical term for it is lip service and false preachers have plenty of lip.

AVOID PERSONAL QUESTIONS AT ALL COST AREA: This part of the false preacher’s brain functioning is on full alert as they avoids personal questions and accountability to the Bible like the plague. Plague albeit is a good term for their peaching style.

LAME EXCUSES GLAND: This gland is in full operation daily for false preachers (and their followers) as they attempts to justify all sorts of crazy things which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt as to perverted their brain really are and what low energy flow they have. How they (and their supporters) justifies their false doctrines and evil actions  and then peddles it to the world is beyond me.

DANGEROUS PURSUITS AREA: This area of false preacher and follower – or to some vernacular favored by some the pulpit pimp and the sheeple – provides evidence for crazy behavior. The reckless abandon of common sense is evident to all who know the Bible (and even those that have some general idea of morality and propriety by way of God’s common grace) and brain surgery may allow them to lessen their reign of terror upon people.

SEX, SEX: Modern day Christians that defile themselves with the doctrines of Baal, Belial, Jezebel, etc. by following false preachers are known for their shockingly carnal mindset and actions. Is there any wonder why rates of adultery, abortion, divorce, etc. are as high among churchgoers as they are among the regular population? Further, popular preachers and Chri$tian entertainer$ are now routinely selling sexuality for fame and profit: see our series sex sells especially in the church for only part of it! Another ministry as a Christian Erotica section that talks about it even more.

I am sure you will agree that the functioning of the false preacher and false preacher disciple brain explains a lot. Whatever it lacks I’m quite sure that the Lame Excuses Gland will make up for it in abundance. I suppose I could sum up by labeling all this Cranial Crapola. All this comes about by having a reprobate mind (Romans 1:28) to do all those things that are not fitting. It should also be noted that it was God who gave them over to this reprobate mind. For the longest time the brains of - again to use the common vernacular – pulpit pimps and their sheeple have “Become futile in his thoughts and his foolish heart was darkened” Romans 1:21.

Yes, I’m afraid that false preachers and their followers do need some brain surgery to remove many unnecessary functions. I pity the poor surgeon that has to do that task.

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Is God More Disgusted With Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, TD Jakes, Or Paula White?

Posted by Job on March 27, 2008

By Pastor Bill Keller. To sign up for his devotional click on link below.

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Romans 10:14

Who was God more disgusted with last September, Iranian President Mahmoud
Ahmadinejads, or well known minister TD Jakes? One of the things I have
tried to do these past 9 yrs is challenge those who know the Lord to become
more bold in sharing their faith with their family, with their neighbors, at
school or work, at the gym, as well as the people God allows to cross your
path on a daily basis. I remind you often that sharing our faith is not an
option, it is a commandment. It is not something we do when we feel like it,
it is something we are instructed in the Bible to do out of love for people
who are lost and will die and go to hell without a personal relationship
with Jesus Christ.

That is why nothing infuriates me more than what happened last September as
one of the most visible men of God in the nation goes on a popular
nationally syndicated TV program and if you didn’t know who he was, would
have never guessed in a million years he was a preacher! It was like Paula
White going on the Trya Banks program and calling herself a “life coach,”
never once mentioning she is a preacher, or talking about the Bible or
saying the name of Jesus!

This past September you had that evil little man from Iran, Mahmoud
Ahmadinejad spewing his delusional philosophy of life at Columbia
University, and a few hours later you had “Bishop” TD Jakes appearing on the
Dr. Phil program to counsel people. At the end of the day there is no doubt
in my mind God was more disgusted with Jakes, a man who claims to serve God,
than He was with Ahmadinejad, a man who has clearly chosen to serve satan!

There is nothing to really to say about Ahmadinejad. He is a thoroughly evil
man who follows that false religion of hate and death, Islam. As the
President of Iran, he has openly called for the total annihilation of
Israel, has made numerous threats against the United States, is shipping
arms to Iraqi insurgents helping to kill US troops who are serving there, is
harboring Osama Bin Laden’s son and other al-Qaeda leaders, and is pursuing
the development of nuclear weapons.

He preyed upon the weakness of this nation to come to our shores and spit in
our faces by his very presence. He no doubt has accomplished his chief goal
which was to appear credible on the world stage, while filling his coffers
with propaganda to take back to Iran and continue his terrorist activities.
Please remember in a few years that this man was here, on our soil, and
instead of arresting him like the common criminal he is, we treated him like
a head of state.

As disgusted as I was with Ahmadinejad making a mockery of our nation, I was
even more disgusted with the “Bishop” TD Jakes making a mockery of our Lord!
I was excited to hear he was going to be on with Oprah’s “creation” Dr. Phil
to give people counsel. I was excited that finally a bold man of God would
go on this nationally syndicated secular program with a chief merchant of
worldly advice and give people real counsel from the Word of God while
telling them Jesus is their only hope for this life and all eternity.

Finally, a powerful spokesman for Christ to tell the nation God’s Word is
the only Truth and Jesus is the only way to be saved. By the end of the hour
it took all the will power I could muster to not take a baseball bat and
smash my television into a million pieces.

I will give you an exact quote from my email to the “Bishop” TD Jakes. “That
was the most gutless and spineless performance by a supposed Gospel minister
I have ever witnessed. You should be ashamed to call yourself a minister of
the Gospel and God will hold you accountable for the souls who will burn in
hell because you were more worried about selling books than saving souls!”

I have warned you for years about Oprah’s puppet Dr. Phil. He clams to be a
Christian, and only God can judge his heart regarding his salvation. But I
have every right and responsibility to judge his WORDS and ACTIONS in
accordance with the Bible. They are the words and actions of a man who is
lost in his few minutes of fame and the money he is making. His counsel is
not from the Bible but from the world. Instead of giving people real hope,
he simply exploits their troubled lives for ratings.

I have warned you often about this merchant of false hope. Here is one of my
Devotionals from last year on why this man is so dangerous,
http://www.liveprayer.com/ddarchive3.cfm?id=2447 .

That is why I was so excited to see TD Jakes going on his program. As it
turned out, he was not there to give Biblical counsel or to tell the lost
how they can be saved, he was there to sell his new book! Just like that
cotton-candy preacher Joel Osteen who was on Larry King a few years ago and
refused all 6 of King’s attempts to get him to simply say that Jesus was the
ONLY way to be saved because he was not there to save souls, but to sell
books.

I learned later in the day Dr. Phil actually wrote the forward of Jakes’ new
book. So with the opportunity to tell millions of viewers who were no doubt
lost and hurting, looking for answers and hope, instead of the Gospel they
got a sales pitch to go to their local bookstore and buy his book!

In my disgust, I called a few people who are very connected to the Christian
TV world and I find out guess who TD Jakes’ guest will be on several of his
upcoming shows? You got it, Dr. Phil! Why? Dr. Phil also has a new book
coming out so he is trying to capitalize on his claim of being a Christian
to tap into the Christian market. So in essence what you had Monday and what
you will get when Dr. Phil appears on Jakes program, is a SCAM that has gone
on in the church for ages.

It is the pulpit exchange scam. Preacher Bob is invited to Preacher Joe’s
church to speak. He comes, preaches, and they take a big love offering for
him. A few months later, Preacher Bob invites Preacher Joe to come to his
church to speak. He comes, preaches, and they take a big love offering for
him.

Since I have blown the cover off of that long standing scam, here is another
one for you. Ever sit back amazed as you watch Christian TV and hear how God
told some minister to give the TV network $100,000, and they pull out a big
check? Did you know in the future they will receive special airings or runs
of their TV program on that network worth about, you got it, $100,000!

Ever sit back amazed as you saw one minister give another minister a jet
plane! WOW! What generosity you think! If only I had faith like that you
think! Little do you know there was already some sort of business deal
between the two for the jet plane.

This is how these high visibility preachers con people into having the
“faith” to send them tons of money. It is all part of the manipulating
process that enables these ministries to own tens of millions of dollars of
real estate, fly around in private jets, and live like the rulers of small
nations! OF COURSE THEY STILL COME BACK AND BEG YOU TO GIVE THEM MORE!!!

I love you and care about you so much. This is why I left and vowed to never
return to the Christian TV world 10 yrs ago. This is why non-Christians
NEVER watch Christian TV and have zero trust or respect for preachers. They
smell these scams from a mile away. The Bible actually says the children of
the world are more street smart than the children of light.

I have to be honest. It almost makes me want to get out of the ministry all
together at times. I have to spend more time than you will ever know in
dealing with people in the marketplace, letting them know that “I am not one
of those guys” so they will at least listen to my message.

I have had numerous people over the years “counsel” me how Liveprayer could
be a $50 million a year ministry overnight, instead of struggling to raise
the $1 million we do each year to operate. All I have to do is what everyone
else does. Leave secular TV and go to Christian TV. Forget reaching the lost
in the world on the internet and focus on reaching people who already are
Christians while using the website to sell products.

Quit wasting all of our time and resources to reach the lost and refocus our
efforts on how to cash in on the Gospel. They tell me I have spent 9 years
of laboring to build up Liveprayer, now it is time to take it easy and reap
tens of millions of dollars a year from what we have built. I quietly tell
these people to please leave before I get in the flesh and literally throw
them out of my office!

I HAVE TOO MUCH FEAR (AWE) OF GOD TO TURN LIVEPRAYER INTO MY PERSONAL
FIEFDOM. I DON’T LOOK FORWARD TO THE LAST WEEK OF EVERY MONTH WHEN I HAVE TO
PLEAD WITH PEOPLE TO HELP ME SIMPLY COVER OUR BASIC OPERATIONAL NEEDS, BUT
IT KEEPS ME HUMBLE AND NEVER LETS ME FORGET VERY LONG WHOSE MINISTRY THIS IS
AND THAT I WILL ONLY BE HERE AS LONG AS I REMAIN FAITHFUL TO MY CALLING. GOD
HAS ME ON A 30 DAY LEASH EACH MONTH SO I NEVER FORGET, EVEN FOR A DAY, WHY I
AM HERE AND WHAT HE HAS CALLED ME TO DO!!!

I had one person send me an email that said, “PASTOR KELLER, WITH ALL DUE
RESPECT, PLEASE TELL ME WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE, TD JAKES BEING ON DR. PHIL
SHOW AND BILL KELLER BEING ON HOWARD STERN SHOW.” My answer, “The difference
is he was on there for one reason, to sell books. He never once mentioned
the name Jesus, quoted any scripture, or told people how to be saved. He was
on there to make money and for no other reason. I go on with Stern and got
nothing, except tons of grief. I have no agenda other than the opportunity
to share Christ and Biblical Truth with Stern’s listeners.

After my recent appearances on many of the top secular programs on the cable
news networks and many national radio programs, I can already tell you that
while they like my boldness to state my case about the issue I am on to
discuss, they have already figured out I am there to declare the Bible is
the only Truth and faith in Jesus is the ONLY way to be saved. I am already
being blackballed from some of these programs because they don’t want their
program being used as a pulpit by some evangelist.

My friend, I invest money each month into a professional PR firm and seize
those media opportunities for one reason and one reason only, TO HAVE A
SECULAR FORUM TO TELL PEOPLE ABOUT JESUS! I HAVE NO OTHER MESSAGE BUT THE
GOSPEL! YOU HAVE NO OTHER MESSAGE FOR YOUR FAMILY, FRIENDS, THOSE YOU MEET
ALONG YOUR JOURNEY BUT THE GOSPEL!

My word of admonition to you today is to pray NOT to be like TD Jakes, Joel
Osteen, Paula White, or any of these other “Christian stars” who get the
opportunity to talk to a secular audience and use that opportunity to build
their kingdom and not God’s. Trust me, they WILL answer to God one day, just
like I will and you will!

Make the most of your opportunities to share the Truth of the Bible with
those you meet each day and what Jesus has done in your life. People are
dying and going to hell every second. People you know! If they choose to
reject the hope of Christ, that is their choice. Our job is not to force
anyone to believe, we can’t do that. Our job is to share with them the Good
News and pray for them!

“How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can
they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear
without someone preaching to them?” Romans 10:14

In His love and service,
Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller bkeller@liveprayer.com

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PAULA WHITE SAYS JESUS CHRIST NOT THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON AND WE ARE NOT TO PRAY TO JESUS CHRIST!

Posted by Job on March 19, 2008

All right you fans of this Word of Faith prosperity heathen blaspheming witch, where are you? Are you going to defend her now? What more is it going to take?

Original post here Paula White’s Outrageous Heresies!

Please compare what you saw and heard on this video to these passages of scripture.

Jesus Christ Is Clearly Called the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.

John 1:14   And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

John 1:18 No man has seen God at any time; the only begotten God, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.

John 3:16   “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life.

John 3:18 “He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Prayer to Jesus

John 14:14 [Jesus said] If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it.

1Cor. 1:2   To the church of God that is in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints together with all those who in every place call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, both their Lord and ours:

Acts 8:22 Repent, therefore, of this wickedness of yours, and pray to the Lord that, if possible, the intent of your heart may be forgiven you.

2 Cor 12:7 So to keep me from becoming conceited because of the surpassing greatness of the revelations,a thorn was given me in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to harass me, to keep me from becoming conceited. 8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord about this, that it should leave me. 9 But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.”

Acts 7:54   Now when they heard these things they were enraged, and they ground their teeth at him. 55 But he, full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. 56 And he said, “Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.” 57 But they cried out with a loud voice and stopped their ears and rushed together at him. 58 Then they cast him out of the city and stoned him. And the witnesses laid down their garments at the feet of a young man named Saul. 59 And as they were stoning Stephen, he called out, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” 60 And falling to his knees he cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

Acts 8:24 And Simon answered, “Pray for me to the Lord, that nothing of what you have said may come upon me.”

Acts 1:24 And they prayed and said, “You, Lord, who know the hearts of all, show which one of these two you have chosen

1 John 5:11 And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. 13   I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God that you may know that you have eternal life. 14 And this is the confidence that we have toward him, that if we ask anything according to his will he hears us. 15 And if we know that he hears us in whatever we ask, we know that we have the requests that we have asked of him.

Heb. 7:25 Consequently, he is able to save to the uttermost those who draw near to God through him, since he always lives to make intercession for them.

Independent Conservative’s take here: Will Paula White be the Biggest Apostate Heretic of 2008? She’s Made Her Self Nomination Known!

I was really flabbergasted (and that’s not a word in my regular vocabulary) at all the heresy I saw from Paula White and her partner in heresy Larry Huck. Honestly, it’s so bad I’m not even comfortable posting the video here. Just check out the post at A Little Leaven titled Paula White’s Outrageous Heresies!

And for the record, I don’t feel either Paula White or Larry Huck are saved or ever were saved. It’s apparent they wanted money and they got it. Yea it’s OK to pray for them, but lets not play games here, what they’ve done is all of 2 Peter 2.

I mean seriously, I’ve heard much heresy from these people, but this one is really shocking, even to me.

Also, our brother on YouTube bezel333 has a video all about Paula and Larry titled The unbiblical musings of Paula White and friends.

Listen, I know that it offends the sensibilities of so many Christians today, especially the church of judge not. But listen folks, some people are just going to the lake of fire and burn for an eternity! That is the truth. Some people are going to go to HELL! If you are a liar, apostate, blasphemer, diviner, cheat, fornicator, or thief sitting in a pulpit, you are going to HELL! If you are sitting in a “church” following these wicked people, you are going to go to HELL too right behind them! What? I don’t have the right or authority to say this about people? Excuse me, but yes I do! Where do I get this authority from? THE BIBLE! IT IS IN THE BIBLE! Are any of you people that are following and defending these evil wicked people reading your Bibles?

Listen, the prosperity/Word of Faith doctrines are what is behind all this. You have all of these people going back scouring the Old Testament and thereby rejecting the new covenant built on better promises looking for their material blessings. Well, once you start pushing away Jesus Christ and eternal life to the backburner, He starts figuring less prominently in your mind. That is what the prosperity doctrine does. And the Word of Faith doctrine? By convincing yourself that you can metaphysically cause your own blessings to come upon you by speaking, naming and claiming, etc. you convince yourself that “you can be like the Most High.” You start elevating yourself higher and higher and bringing God lower and lower.

Listen, I know this topic makes a lot of people uneasy and for that reason they don’t want to talk about it. But it is time for Christians to face facts: people are going to go the lake of fire to burn for an eternity. Once we acknowledge that fact within ourselves, we have to start considering precisely who the people are that are going to meet with this awful fate, and the sole determinant should be what the Bible says. Not what the preacher says, not what you feel is good and right, not what the denomination says, but what the Bible says. After you have done that, then you need to look at yourself. Yes, church of judge not, you have to judge yourself. Examine yourself to see whether you be in the faith (2 Corinthians 13:5)! As yourself “Am I going to go to the lake of fire? If so, why? If not, why not?” Pray and ask God this question. Most of all, READ YOUR BIBLE AND JUDGE YOURSELF AGAINST SCRIPTURE. JUDGE YOURSELF AGAINST THE REALLY HARD TOUGH THINGS. Like when Jesus Christ says “And they shall be cast into outer darkness and there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” Read the people that Jesus Christ is talking about and ask yourself “DOES THAT APPLY TO ME?!” Go to the warnings in Revelation 2 and Revelation 3. As yourself “Am I in one of these types of churches? Am I one of the Jezebels, Balaams, Nicolataines, etc. type of people in these churches?” Go to the lists of sins and sinners all over the New Testament, and see if any of those things apply to you! Revelation 21:8 Revelation 22:15 2 Timothy 3:1-5 Romans 1:29-31 and many more! If the shoe fits, you don’t have to sit around and wear it! You can fall on your knees and beg God to take it off! But that is never going to happen so long as you are following false preachers that fit this description and sending them money!

As I have said many a time, there is no reason to follow these people. There are plenty of good pastors and preachers out there. The problem is that people have no interest in them. They want to be lied to and they want to be exploited and misled because the liars and exploiters ENTERTAIN them. They make them feel good and happy! That is what it is all about these days! Being entertained! Well are any of you aware of how Christians are being imprisoned, raped, tortured, and murdered all over the world right now? Do you realize that more Christians died for the faith in the 20th century than in all the previous centuries combined? So did any of you go up to one of those Christian woman in Sudan while she being raped, chopped with machetes, and whatever was left of her was then doused with gasoline and set on fire (I am not making this stuff up!) if she was having a good time? If she was having any fun? If the principles of prosperity that you learned out of some book that you bought at some conference were moving in her life? If she was speaking life into her situation and creating with the power of the tongue?

Somehow, I doubt it. I will tell you why … because you are following a form of false Christianity that is completely irrelevant to how the majority of Christians in the world are living today. Did you even know that there are more “third world” Christians now than western ones? The clear majority of Christians today are living in poverty, oppression, or both. And yet theirs is the kingdom of heaven, see Matthew 5:3!

To all of you people out there following this wickedness, I am warning you right now, come out of it, because otherwise your faith is a fraud, your religion is a lie, and that makes you both of those things plus many more.

Look, even if your pastor, your friends, your family, etc. are on the road to destruction, you don’t have to be a lemming like them and fall off the edge of the cliff. You can be saved. You can be redeemed. You can be spared the wrath of the Lamb! Don’t be like them! Be like Jesus Christ! Follow The Three Step Salvation Plan today!

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TD Jakes Protege Suze Orman Is Gay!

Posted by Job on February 19, 2008

Suze Orman was a frequent attraction at MegaFest to provide financial empowerment advice as this link demonstrates. Well as it turns out, Suze Orman is homosexual. Now in fairness to the apostate Jakes, he may not have known that Orman was homosexual (despite the fact that as a oneness pentecostal charismatic he is supposed to have spiritual discernment gifts … oh never mind!) as this Christian site states that Orman only recently came out of the closet. (Then again, that article professes not to care about Orman’s homosexuality because what truly matters is that she gives excellent financial advice so its Christian muster must be challenged. For example … suppose Orman were, say, RACIST as opposed to homosexual. Would that matter so long as she gave good financial advice? Somehow I think that it would matter very much, don’t you?)

Still, it does demonstrate the inherent flaw in preaching apostate prosperity Christianity, and also the mixing of sacred and secular whether by politics, entertainment, finance, etc. Orman was chosen to address the MegaFest audiences not because of her commitment to serving Jesus Christ as evidenced by her profession of faith verified by biblical living, but rather because of her celebrity. Yes, I said CELEBRITY, because though Orman is certainly a financial expert, so are a lot of people, including members of Jakes’ own church. Any number of bankers, accountants, stockbrokers, etc. are capable of giving out sound financial advice, especially to an audience that is supposed to be under a biblical mandate from the words of life spoken by Jesus Christ Himself not to be dedicated to the pursuit of filthy lucre. But none of the other people that Jakes could have easily gotten, including the many born – again Christians working in the financial industry pursuing their careers in Godly ways, have their own CNBC shows. So Jakes has no interest in them because they are useless in his agenda, which is not to honor Jesus Christ but rather honor himself by attracting huge crowds to make a name for himself, the same goal as the makers of the Tower of Babylon. Jakes was so intent to use MegaFest to establish himself as a major player in the fields that he has chosen for himself that he was actually willing to lose money by hosting the event. But once the crowds began to diminish and the media attention began to wane, Jakes pulled the plug.

So all TD Jakes using a celebrity financial adviser who turned out to be homosexual as a MegaFest draw helps prove is that MegaFest was never about Jesus Christ, the overwhelming majority of its attendees were not about Jesus Christ (if they were either their charismatic discernment gifts or their willingness to adhere to basic Bible teachings would have warned them to steer clear), and the people in T.D. Jakes circle are not about Jesus Christ. But then again, you knew that already, didn’t you?

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Christian Capitalism: Has The Southern Baptist Convention Crossed The Line?

Posted by Job on January 19, 2008

This may be a small indication, I know, but a real sign nonetheless. Lifeway Christian Stores is owned by the Southern Baptist Convention. This means that unlike the independent and corporate owned Christian bookstores, they should have a commitment to their own orthodoxy as well a responsibility to oppose the mammon in the Chri$tian book$tore indu$try, right? Well think again. Recently, when I walked into the local Lifeway Christian bookstore affiliate, I saw a devotional book by none other than lying oneness pentecostal Council on Foreign Relations heretic T.D. Jakes!

As if the Southern Baptist Church didn’t already have issues with emergent, antinomian, and Rick Warren Mike Huckabee purpose driven heretics. (By the way, like Paul Crouch said about his opponents, the Purpose Driven people say that we are going to the lake of fire.) This is just a small example of why some are trying to promote Al Mohler to take over the convention

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Mike Huckabee Is Down With Newt Gingrich (And Bill Clinton And Dick Morris)!

Posted by Job on January 9, 2008

Who knew that former Southern Baptist preachers got along so well with serial adulterers? This is more proof that Huckabee is not an actual Christian but rather just another Rick Warren T.D. Jakes Council on Foreign Relations worker.

Newt Gingrich: Mike Huckabee Is The Most Electable

Bill Clinton, Gingrich agree on Huckabee as GOP dark horse

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Hey Hey Hey TD Jakes Says It Is OK To Be Gay!

Posted by Job on December 30, 2007

From Melvin Jones’ website:

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17 Million Oneness Pentecostals! – The Jesus Only Bunch

Posted by Job on December 18, 2007

Source: Oneness Pentecostals- The Jesus Only Bunch

of http://spm100.wordpress.com
The only time that we have felt under a true Satanic attack was from a Jesus Only Pentecostal. This movement was started by a man who forgot the admonition of Matthew 15:9- “IN VAIN THEY WORSHIP ME, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men”. John Scheppe noted that during a night meditation that baptism must be done in the name of Jesus Christ only and not in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and several ministers began teaching this doctrine. What makes Scheppe any different than Joseph Smith who had several visions too that started Mormonism? The Oneness Pentecostals trace their roots back to the Azusa Street Revival where tongues got their start, and by a woman, no less.

17 million Oneness Pentecostals worldwide reject the Triune Godhead. The matter does not involve a slight deviation from the norm. What the Oneness group does is to make void the very essence of Christianity. They are under the mistaken notion of the Godhead consisting of three gods. Perhaps they’ve been listening to too many Joseph Smith lectures. When they baptize in the name of Jesus “only” they are applying heresy to the ritual. The Triune Godhead is One in essence and is wholly God. Jesus said that He and the Father are One (John 10:30). If you deny the Godhead, then you are following the commandments of men, that being John Scheppe based on one night’s meditation. If you accept that as biblical, then you ought also accept Joseph Smith’s visions as gospel. Are you up to that nonsense?

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Can We Do Anything To Speed The Return Of Jesus Christ? Why I Say NO!

Posted by Job on November 20, 2007

Up until very recently I sincerely felt that Christians could speed the return of Jesus Christ by doing works, such as spreading the gospel. But now I find out by reading “Messiah In The Old Testament” by the (rather liberal but still orthodox) Walter Kaiser out that the Pharisees had that same error. They were correct in presuming that their failure to keep the law resulted in their nation being sent into captivity and subjected to brutal subjugation. They were correct that the prophets who foretold their current fate also spoke of a coming Messiah. So then, what was their error? A perfectly understandable mistake: that if disobeying the law caused them to lose their nation, monarchy, and sovereignty, then keeping the law would cause these things to be restored by the Messiah that their prophets spoke of. Of course, the natural progression was that the Jews could speed the return of the Messiah by being VERY ZEALOUS, but that being “less than zealous” would hinder his coming. That is why their actions against Jesus Christ, who like John Hagee His being Messiah they rejected, were very understandable … they thought that His using His influence with the people to disobey their interpretation of the law was hindering the restoration of Israel and the Messianic age.

This belief did not die, incidentally. The reason why Jews went from tolerating Jesus Christ’s Jewish followers as a sect within Judaism (if an errant bothersome one … though they far from the only ones considered errant and bothersome) to expelling them from their synagogues as apostates and heretics was because they were ultimately scapegoated for the destruction of the temple in 70 AD and Jerusalem in 117 AD. Why? Because they were following the Man who taught them to disobey the law, causing God to punish us as He did in 586 BC. (Of course, this is not said directly, instead they say that the reason why the second temple was destroyed was “the lack of unity.”) And though this is similarly rarely spoken of, some Jewish leaders blamed the Holocaust on a number of Jews going after secularism and liberalism (Conservative and Reform Judaism) and a general failure to keep the Sabbath. And to this day, the goal of rabbinic Judaism is to cause God to grant the Jewish nation their Messiah.

Is it an oversimplification to say that the Pharisees were too preoccupied and self – assured in their doctrines that they could bring cause the Messiah to come through works that they did not recognize the Messiah when He came to them not by their works to do their Will but by God’s grace to do God’s Will? For it must be said: the Word of God says that if a man labors, he must reap the benefits thereof. If even the ox that treads the corn should not be muzzled, how much more so should a man that labors be? So the inevitable conclusion is that with anything that man produces with works, man can take some credit for it. Man can take some ownership of it. Man can have some control over it. As such, the Messiah produced by works would have been THEIR Messiah to do THEIR Will, even if only least in part. So when Jesus Christ came to do not their Will in any sense but God’s, and was so not owned by or beholden to man that He did no so much as have a human father, they rejected Him because He was not the creation of their own hands. Nay, He was not the creation of ANY, but rather the uncreated God, the Word of the Trinity.

That is why our own salvation cannot be the result of works. If we labored in any least sense, in any jot or tittle, then that would give us that much ownership rights and control over our souls. That would deprive God not only of His due glory, but His ownership rights as our sole creator and sole managers of our destiny. And since works produce works, it would give preachers and evangelists ownership rights over those converted by their efforts! Now imagine the effect of this … the great masses of the redeemed dwelling with God in heaven, not only with each having a claim on himself and many having claims on others, but the combined net worth effect of their collective claims! For eternity! (Believe in interest perhaps?) So I say “God forbid!” Such a thing cannot not be and will not be. What say you?

And that brings us to the Imminent return of our Lord and Savior Y’shua HaMashiach, better known as Jesus Christ. If it were possible to facilitate or speed His return by the gospel or any other works, we would have a claim on His Return and Him with it! Since all things were created by the Word (John 1:3) through Him we would have a claim on the entire creation. And since He is one with the Holy Spirit, we would through Him have a claim on the Holy Spirit. And since He is one with the Father, we would through Him have a claim on the Father. And because sinful man would have a valid legal claim on the Father, the Father would no longer be holy and no longer sovereign. The result? He would be a false god, no god at all! God forbid that such a thing should happen. So now, Christian, do you see the error of works based theology?

Yet works based theology is alive and well in Christendom, and it is not limited to the Roman Catholic Church. It is alive and well in the Protestant movement too. Let me give you three ways.

1. Tithing. The practice was for the Old Testament only and for a specific purpose: to support the priests who stood before God’s presence as man’s mediator. The Book of Hebrews tells us that Jesus Christ is our priest forever after the order of Melchisedec. From that, if you continue to tithe to your pastor or church, two things can reasonably be inferred. A. It is your pastor and your church and not Jesus Christ that is the mediator between you and the Father. Please realize that such is the position of the Roman Catholic Church. I cannot help but – after a somewhat whimsical fashion – wonder if Matthew 23:9And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven” is a prophetic polemic against the Roman Catholic practice to come. B. That Jesus Christ either never came, never died, or never resurrected. Those who continue this practice in ignorance of the truth do so in ignorance of the truth. But to those that have come into the knowledge of the truth, new covenant giving is to be directed by 2 Corinthians 9:7 which reads: “Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.”

2. The prosperity/Word of Faith movement, where we are taught that we receive things from God not according to grace, but by works. The prosperity doctrine the works are actually somewhat indirect through obedience (to quote Jesse DuPlantis, “the prosperity doctrine is an obedience doctrine”) and compulsory giving (John Hagee teaches that those who do not tithe will have their wages cursed by God, and that you will receive a greater blessing for giving to Jews and Israel than elsewhere). But the Word of Faith movement is more direct in telling people that you can bit a bridle and harness in the mouth of God, hop upon His back, and drive and command Him to use His Power to control nature and history as you see fit! It was from Albert Pendarvis of http://www.radiomissions.org – who ironically is located a few miles away from Jesse DuPlantis – whom I first heard warn Christians against those preachers that were “commanding God, not respecting Him, and misusing His Name” in the charismatic movement, especially the faith healers. Of course I was a full gospel Kenneth Hagin Word of Faith/prosperity adherent at the time so I rejected him at the time, but now I must acknowledge the truth in his preaching in this matter. These doctrines deny grace and try to co – opt, manipulate, and control God.

3. Christian Zionism. If you are a dispensational pre – tribulation rapture doctrine adherent, I shall not speak against you for believing in that doctrine. What I do speak against is how so many pastors who hold this view teach that we can speed or facilitate the return of Jesus Christ based on it! For instance, some Christians are helping finance the return of Jews to Israel. But the Bible says that it is the Messiah’s job to do this in Jeremiah 23:3-6. Some Christians are helping Jews breed red heifers so that the Jews can restart their sacrifices in the temple. Why are we facilitating that which we no there is no profit but instead is a snare, an act of rebellion against everything that Hebrews says? Are we helping the Muslims practice their religion? Why not? Are they not the children of Abraham too? Are we aiding the Hindus, Mormons, and Scientologists in their abominations? Did Jesus Christ come in the flesh, die on the cross for our sins, and rise again on the third day or not? Did He do such a thing for the Jew first and then the Gentile or did He not? Are we ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ in the Jews’ presence? For the Jews’ sake? Well what John Hagee is now preaching is merely the fruition, the logical conclusion of that mindset!

And speaking of John Hagee, it is not enough to speak of his dual covenant theology, though it is bad. Hagee, Robertson, and their fellow travelers use “defending Israel” as an license to justify whatever level of atrocity and militarization of the Middle East they desire. With Hagee, his running a “Christian AIPAC” gives a third tier televangelist from San Antonio great wealth and power. And as for Robertson, who does own oil interests, how much is his personal wealth increased by oil being over $100 a barrel? And how much higher will the price of oil go if our government assassinates Hugo Chavez as Pat Robertson suggested? How much higher will it go if we invade Iran as Hagee demands? Now Hagee prophesied (back when I was a fan of his show) that we would be at war with Iran by now and that Jesus Christ would come back a few months later. Put all the details in his best – selling books. A false prophet that no one has held accountable? Of course!

But consider what would happen if Hagee was RIGHT. That would mean that it would be possible for even crooks, liars, thieves, and false prophets to have a claim on God if works doctrines be true. Though they are false preachers, the gospel is preached through these fellows, and people are saved by it. But you can see the effects of people perceiving works doctrines to be true? These pastors have tens, possibly hundreds, of millions of people at their command, onward Christian soldiers marching to war! Blood, violence, disease, starvation, death, and poverty for the many. All for the profit of a few. Is that the gospel of Jesus Christ? Maybe a false Jesus Christ that you can own through works, but not the true Jesus Christ obtained only by grace. We are to show love to God’s people and His holy city, certainly, but the way that the Bible tells us to. Pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Support the legitimate needs of Jews out of love and obedience to God, not expecting blessings in return or in support of a political agenda. And to also give aid to the Palestinians so as to not show partiality.

So in the final analysis we must come to the conclusion that man can do nothing to speed the return of Jesus Christ. No one knows the day or the hour. Jesus Christ is returning when the Father sees fit. The sovereign God will determine when Christ will return. God is not hindered by man, He is not frustrated by man, He is not dependent upon man. God is sovereign. 2 Peter 3:9 declares that it is by the grace of God and not the works of man that has hindered the coming of Jesus Christ to this day, and it will be by that same grace that Jesus Christ comes to rescue the church from this life and punish all else for its uncleanness. Yes, it is said that Christ will not return until the gospel is preached throughout the world, and that does mean that evangelism and missionary work should be done in Jerusalem, in Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth from the least to the greatest, the youngest to the oldest. But even that will not be our doing lest any man should boast, but rather God’s doing. I am going to co – opt the words that so offended the renowned missionary William Carey and say that when it pleases God to evangelize the world He will do it without your help or mine. He will do it without the ecumenical movements. He will do it without the TBN satellites that Paul Crouch asserted in one of his mass mailings was the angel flying around the world proclaiming the gospel in Revelation 14:6.

The sovereign God will do this by His grace! And when history comes to a close, all creation will see that God does not need us. Instead, it is we that need Him. The only question is whether people realize this in due time or in past time. Those who do so in due time will receive eternal life as a reward. Those who fail? Eternal wrath and destruction. Will you do so know? Will you bow before the Great King of creation, acknowledge that you need Him, and submit yourself to Him? I urge you to do so now, for tomorrow is not promised. There are many people that were here yesterday that presumed that they would be here today that are not. Are you better than they are? If so, how? I say this not to frighten or manipulate you but rather because I am concerned about you, and also because it is undeniably true. If you have not acknowledged the sovereignty of God, please do so. Follow The Three Step Salvation Plan right now.

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TD JAKES HAS A GAY SON!

Posted by Job on October 23, 2007

Update: please see Does Running A Biblical Church Require Five Point Calvinism? and comment.

Gay Christian Movement Watch has it!

TD Jakes repositioning with Dr. Phil?

Some believe this is because one of his twin sons is gay. The young man was spotted at a black gay club in Atlanta during the popular 2006 MegaFest. One of the more recurrent search questions bringing people to GCM Watch is “TD Jakes’ gay son”, so there is considerable talk already out there. Reportedly, the young man has already told his father he is gay.”

What does this have to do with Jakes? After all, he is NOT responsible for the behavior of his son. I would NEVER claim this to be the case OR use this as something to attack Jakes. We ALL have to stand before God in judgment OURSELVES AS INDIVIDUALS, and the very fact that I have to answer to God one day for everything that I say and do is precisely why I would NEVER resort to such a cheap trick, let alone to spreading rumors or gossip which the Bible also explicitly calls sin. But where this DOES condemn Jakes is the shift in his ministry towards acceptance of homosexuality, and that includes interviewing the protege’ of the New Age witch Dr. Phil, who teaches that homosexuality is inherited, on his show and, according to Gay Christian Movement Watch, endorsing Dr. Phil’s opinions on TD Jakes own weblog: see his weblog entry. This direction has “earned” Jakes his own section on gay Christian movement watch: gcmwatch.wordpress.com/category/bishop-t-d-jakes. Now I first read about Jakes’ moving to the pro – homosexual side from the now regrettably banned Youtube user Ephesians511, but his increasing refusal to condemn homosexuality, his claiming that “God did not tell us how to deal with AIDS” on Nightline, and now his alignment with the “sodomy is biology” gay rights crowd confirms it!

Listen folks, this is no game. Jesus Christ is coming back, and this world is going to be judged and destroyed by fire. You folks that continue to defend these apostates (again, both Jakes and Robert Schuller have had heretic Dr. Phil on AT MINIMUM) are going to be counted like unto them and be destroyed in the lake of fire right along with them!

Update: Brother IndependentConservative goes even further than I do! So this makes me feel better about my thoughts that I MIGHT be doing something wrong by making this post.

  1. IndependentConservative Says:
    October 23rd, 2007 at 11:48 pm eHealtheland – Jakes son being a homosexual DOES have to do with Jakes directly and it DOES impact Jakes position in the church directly. Consider Gods guidelines given to man for church leaders, in particular:
    Titus 1:5-6 (King James Version)

    5 For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:

    6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.

    This matters because TD Jakes has assumed a position of church leadership. This DISQUALIFIES HIM! His children are not faithful believers, one has been accused of unruly behavior. Homosexuality is an abomination and all the abominations noted in Leviticus 18 are still very much abominations before God. Sure all sin is sin, but not all sins are abominations.

    He has failed to rule his house well as noted in:
    1 Timothy 3:4-5 (King James Version)

    4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;

    5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

    And God gave these instructions for obvious reasons. Put up a man who has gay children and you’ll never get a leader who stands firm against behavior that is an abomination.

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  3. IndependentConservative Says:
    October 24th, 2007 at 9:35 am eHealtheland said:

    IndependentConservative: What of Samuel’s sons who turned against the faith? That was not held against Samuel. Please recall that God did not judge Eli because his sons were evil, but rather because “Eli restrained them not.”

    I’m not saying Jakes will go to hell because of the sins of his children, certainly not. Jakes will go the hell for his on sins. TD Jakes has taken the heresy noted in Acts 8:20 to levels beyond even what Simon attempted.

    Let’s keep in mind, my assertion is about QUALIFICATIONS FOR CHURCH LEADERSHIP. Not Old Covenant prophet status. 1 Timothy 3 was written for the church, not for Hosea. God told Hosea to marry a harlot because of the sins of Israel and even then that was not the standard. God told THE CHURCH to pick men who are blameless, of one wife, with children who are believers, not found engaging in unruly behavior. And certainly our yolk is easier and the burden lighter than the Mosaic law of the old covenant, although in many ways the law of grace and liberty is of a higher standard than Mosaic law, because we now must adhere to the highest order of love through Christ. We are not given an exception in 1 Timothy 3 for men who fail to rule their own house well and fail to have a family in subjection, because the man decided to marry a harlot or because the children are homosexual. And holding to this is far easier than what others had to hold to before Christ. If the man’s house is out of order because his wife is slutting around or his children are gay, HE’S DISQUALIFIED TO LEAD SAINTS TODAY. Jakes is viewed as a church leader on the NON-BIBLICAL standard of man, which is, “but he sounds good and look at all the people he draws in”

    The bottom line is this, either we uphold the standard God proclaimed through Christ via the Holy Spirit, as written by the hand of Paul or we don’t. If we uphold the standard, this alone disqualifies Jakes for church leadership, but we know there’s so much more.

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TD Jakes And Andrew Merritt Linked To Homosexual Church Movement!

Posted by Job on October 3, 2007

TD Jakes, Andrew Merritt linked to gay church movement

Since a lot of you appear to be looking at this post without clicking on the link, I will give you the excerpt that ties TD Jakes to the organized sodomite movement.

“We want to first take note of Bishop Robert M. Taylor, a member of The Fellowship’s Ecclesiastical Board and partially responsible for the organization’s ”spiritual direction and formation.” Taylor had founded and pastored Fellowship Tabernacle in Philadelphia, a “gay-friendly” church since 1979. But in 2004, Taylor exited Fellowship Tabernacle abruptly and preceded to set up the International Covenant Ministries Fellowship (ICMF), a small conglomerate of churches sprinkled across the country with headquarters in Statesville, NC. He attributed the sudden change to divine instruction from God to turn over the church to his “spiritual sons and daughters” because God said to establish churches abroad. But three years after leaving Philadelphia, Taylor presides only over a few churches mainly on the US east coast. We were told that Taylor allegedly left due to some type of criminal sexual activity which occured under his watch.

Taylor triples as a bishop in the Higher Ground Always Abounding Assemblies, headquartered in Columbus, OH. That’s the same denomination where Dallas luminary Bishop T.D. Jakes and Detroit pastor Andrew Merritt of Straight Gate Church preside as two of the top three church bishops. Taylor is a member of the “National Executive Board of Senior Bishops.” Watch Taylor and Jakes in this video of the HGAAA 2006 convention.”

So, you TD Jakes defenders, where are you now? Come defend THIS! The article above clearly states that these homosexuals are connected to Jakes’ oneness denomination. Claiming that Jakes – and his denomination – does not know about the background and views of one of the leading bishops is not credible. Neither is denying that TBN and the many other Christian broadcasting concerns do not know, or that a great many of the other pastors and Christian leaders that have worked with this fellow in the past do not know. Then again, it has been common knowledge that Jakes denies Trinity ever since at least 1998, so if they don’t care about the Holy Trinity (meaning that they don’t care about God) then why should they care about the mere sin of homosexuality?

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