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National Religious Broadcasters Using Oneness Modalist Heretic TD Jakes To Get Out The Vote

Posted by Job on May 12, 2008

Driving to work this morning viewing the effects of the terrible thunderstorms that spared my neighborhood but hard hit the one right next to mine, I was listening to Christian radio. Out of the blue comes TD Jakes’ booming voice. In it, he first speaks of how much he loves America and so forth. I immediately thought of Jakes doing this to exploit anger over Barack Hussein Obama, Michelle Obama, and Jeremiah Wright’s considerably less than jingoistic statements and actions. Then he went into his exhortation spiel for people to register and get out to vote. 

First, I see Lifeway Bookstores, owned by the Southern Baptist Convention, selling TD Jakes’ doctrinal error (oneness pentecostalism and the Word of Faith/prosperity doctrine are but a few of his MANY problems) and now the National Religious Broadcasters are using this guy. I had been using the NRB as a sort of a refuge from the blatant charismania that you will find on The Word Network, Trinity Broadcasting Network, Daystar, etc. So I just ignored the heavy Pat Robertson presence on the channel, as well as their “white Europeans are the descendants of the children of Israel … the Danube River is so named because of the tribe of Dan” show that comes on early in the morning. I also ignored their embrace of the Ellen White Seventh Day Adventist cult. So I suppose that I cannot cast NRB aside on Jakes’ account, since the ones that I just named are hardly better – if anything some might be worse – or else I would be reacting out of a personal dislike for Jakes rather than on principle. (On the other hand, Slice of Laodicea has criticized NRB, albeit for different reasons, such as this post stating that not one red cent of NRB’s $5 BILLION IN ASSETS is being used to defend the faith from Oprah Winfrey.)

Incidentally, speaking of TD Jakes and PR spots, he has another one out (I did not catch the sponsor!) promoting single sex education, saying that “boys need their own schools so that they will be able to, you know, romp and stuff (his choice of words not mine!) and that boys learn differently from girls and needed their own classrooms in order to be accommodated. So … it looks like Jakes is not that far removed from Jeremiah Wright’s separatist doctrines after all? 

I have to be honest, back when I was part of the religious right and allowing my worldview to be shaped by the Washington Times and the National Review, I was in full agreement. But now … I just recall reading about this inner city public school that went all male. Sure, the discipline problems decreased and the test scores went up. But when they interviewed the boys that attended the school, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WANTED THEM TO BRING THE GIRLS BACK! Why? Because, er … BOYS LIKE GIRLS! Or at least they are supposed to anyway. Perhaps now that T.D. Jakes is on board with the new world order’s gay rights agenda (and yes this is relevant … perhaps due to his son) he thinks it is OK. To me, the whole single sex education thing … who wants it? Certainly not the kids. Not the administrators or teachers. Parents go for it only because they are desperate for any hook or angle to improve the failing school systems that the government is ruining on purpose. Not even the old fashioned religious sorts – of which I am one – think that it is a good idea anymore, where you were supposed to keep boys and girls separate in their little boarding or finishing schools (where they were supposed to look OH SO CUTE in their little uniforms I guess) UNTIL GRADUATION DAY WHEN YOU MARRY THEM OFF.

Sorry people, but society has changed. Not all of the changes have been for the good, but methinks that one of the most important things for a boy to learn from school is how to treat a lady and how to behave yourself in their presence. For some of us guys, those things do not come naturally, and you only learn them through trial and error. Especially error. (If you don’t learn to handle competition and rejection in junior high and high school, how on earth are you supposed to handle being turned down for jobs, promotions, college choices, etc. later in life?) So … HOW ON EARTH ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO LEARN THOSE THINGS IF THERE ARE NO GIRLS AROUND TO LEARN THEM FROM? 

Like I said, TD Jakes may have his own reasons for wanting to turn your local public school into Morehouse College or similar, and whatever they are I oppose them 100%. All the more reason why the Southern Baptist Convention should not be selling this guy’s books and NRB shouldn’t be using him for their get out the vote campaign. But I suppose that this oneness anti – Trinitarian heretic is just too good at making money and moving public opinion for these people to pass up. That is, unless they are actually along with Jakes, on his side. After all, the Southern Baptists refuse to do anything about the likes of New Age heretic Erwin McManus and Council on Foreign Relations worker Rick Warren (and Richard Land too?), and as stated earlier, Al Sharpton Al Gore global warming propagandist partner Pat Robertson is a major partner with the NRB. 


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The Main Problem With Many Of The Theories On Who The Anti – Christ Is Supposed To Be

Posted by Job on July 5, 2007

Catholics say that it will be a rogue pope. More extreme Protestants say that it is the Roman Catholic Church. Evangelicals say that it will be the European Union or the United Nations. During the Cold War, many were certain that the communists were going to play a huge role in it. Now during the “global war on terror” (which a lot of people seem to forget that the Christian west pretty much started and is DEFINITELY responsible for funding and arming “our enemies” in the first place), Islam has replaced the communists. And it is interesting: thanks to the “ecumenism” movement, a lot of Protestants that would have put the blame on Catholics are trying to cast blame elsewhere, especially to the Muslims or the EU. By the same token, a lot of Catholics that would have figured that the best sign that the pope had turned apostate would have been his making overtures to Protestants are now looking elsewhere. After all, Tim LaHaye had to have the pope raptured in his “Left Behind” novels, or that would have seriously harmed his ability to associate with politically conservative Catholics on the religious right through the Center For National Policy and similar. (Since the Center For National Policy is an arm of the Council on Foreign Relations and similar groups, it is interesting that “Left Behind” kept the focus trained solely on the EU, and not on any of the various groups, some secret and some not so secret, that are either aligned with the Council on Foreign Relations or allied with it … no mention of the Skulls and Crossbones, the Bilderbergs, the Masons, etc. Gee, I wonder why! Almost makes you wonder if a lot of these pretribulationists are being used to run interference for certain people.) It is also curious that where many Christians once accused Jews of playing a key role in the anti – Christ coming to power, the neo – dual covenant theologians of the dispensational evangelical movement have taken precisely the opposite view (motivated by their belief that pursuing self – interested, self – motivated, self – pleasing, and self – serving “relationships” with our friends in the Jewish community is the quickest way to get them to all return to Israel and rebuild the temple so the rapture can happen; of course those same Jews that would speed the departing of the Christians to heaven would be left behind to endure the great tribulation … oh well too bad hey it sucks to be you, you should have accepted Christ while you had the chance … ooops I forgot we listened to John Hagee when he said not to target Jews for conversion because doing that will slow down the process of getting you back into Israel so we can leave you behind there to face the anti-Christ. If that is what “loving your neighbor as yourself” means, I really don’t blame Jews for not wishing to be “loved” in that fashion.)

The main issue is that this “man of sin” is supposed to cause all the people of the world to worship one religion. Claiming that it will be Roman Catholicism will mean that Muslims and Jews will have to become Catholic. (Keep on holding your breath waiting for that to happen.) Similar problems exist with the beast being a Muslim, a communist, a mason, a Mormon, a UN/EU secular humanist, or some leading political figure that you don’t like. While all of these may knowingly or unknowingly (I am believing that it is mostly the latter, though you had better believe that the former exists) play a role in bringing the anti – Christ and his system into reality and power, the beast himself will command universal support: be all things to all people. Meanwhile, any person from the groups listed above (or pretty much any other group) will by definition provoke opposition from a substantial percentage of the population. Of course, global economic, political, medical, environmental, etc. catastrophes could change a lot of that and force a lot of people that would ordinarily be enemies to set aside their differences and work together for survival. Some of that is actually happening already, and one could make the case that the Bible does prophecy such a thing happening. Further, the massive horrors that are supposed to precede the rise of the anti – Christ could wipe out a good percentage of the population, thereby wholesale removing a lot of the people that potentially would have reason to oppose the anti – Christ. You only have to look at how AIDS has dramatically reduced the population of Africa and is now spreading in Asia to see how that could possibly happen. Still, that would leave a lot of huge barriers, the primary one being the one world religion.

So, perhaps what will happen is NOT the anti – Christ causing everyone to cast aside their current religion (including atheists who have no religion at all), but rather create a way for everyone to incorporate his religion into their own beliefs? A way for a person to simultaneously participate in the one world religion while remaining a Catholic, Muslim, Jew, atheist, or Christian (including the many strands of conservative evangelical and fundamentalist)? It is very possible … especially if the said people do such a thing without knowing it, or knowing that they are practicing another religion. They may not even have to bring the world religion “into the church”, that is, incorporate it into their religious practice. Quite the opposite, it may even be expedient if they do not, because a lot of Christians would be loathe to imitate or share in what Muslims are doing, and vice versa, and the same goes for a lot of other groups. The new religion whereby the beast is worshipped COULD be something done outside of the context of that which is generally regarded as religious worship, but nonetheless be something that even the very religiously devout of all religions would not only have no problem doing, but would even desire to do, even if only occasionally. Indeed, all but the very elect, as the Bible says.

Now how elect does one have to be not to follow after some of these things? One does not have to be an elect Catholic to generally avoid Protestantism, or an elect Muslim to stay away from masonry. (That was not a universalistic or ecumenical statement on my part, since I steadfastly reject both; I am just making a general point.) And no, observing the sabbath on Saturday instead of Sunday (when actually according to Jewish tradition it is sundown Friday until sundown Saturday anyway) and refusing to partake in the “Christmas”, “Easter”, or other traditional Christian holidays (in the western or orthodox tradition anyways) does not make you an elect Protestant Christian either (because if it would, it would imply that God would hold such a thing against a Christian on judgment day even if the Christian erred out of ignorance).

Instead, we might have to look in another direction; something whereby everyone in the world can worship Satan while not knowing that they are doing so; something that everyone from a person living in a “remote illiterate primitive tribal culture” to a refined Middle Eastern oil aristocrat to a middle America fundamentalist would theoretically be able to share in. One “easy out”: causing “the whole world” to worship the anti – Christ may not be a reference to each individual, but rather to the leadership of each nation. Keep in mind: it is a pretty consistent biblical principle that the actions of the leaders of a nation were counted to the nation, and that God would punish a whole nation on account of wicked actions by its leaders. (Before you claim that God is unfair in doing this, please realize that holding an entire nation accountable for the evil actions of its rulers in this life is a way of sparing them individual accountability on the day of judgment; destroying the nation on account of its leaders prevents the spiritual evil that is coming from the leaders of the culture from infecting each individual member of it. Therefore, it is actually an action of God’s mercy and saving grace to destroy a nation whose leaders want to turn it into Sodom and Gomorrah before it actually BECOMES Sodom and Gomorrah, because when a nation becomes Sodom and Gomorrah everyone in it is wicked, everyone is individually accountable on the day of judgment for their evil, and none will be saved.) That was why God warned Israel not to pray for a king, and why the results of their getting a king was the nation dividing and ultimately going into captivity because of the wickedness of their kings. Also, since one would have to be a “nation” to actually qualify, remote cultures that have not politically organized themselves into a nation – state or kingdom might for these purposes be excluded, and not be part of “the world”, so to speak, in this respect (another example of God’s saving grace, and also why we should not be so quick to look down upon “third world, primitive, tribal, savage, heathen” peoples and presume ourselves to be better than them because of our wealth, culture, and technology … they might actually be the ones that wind up with the better deal of it!

Another thing to consider: the gospel. The end cannot come until the gospel is preached to all nations, so said Jesus Christ in the gospels. Since we are talking about the “anti – Christ” here … is it possible that the gospel must be preached in a nation before people can choose the anti – Christ by virtue of either A) rejecting the gospel outright or B) accepting it initially only for a great many of them to turn away to a false Christianity? It would be the greatest of ironies if one of the consequences of our spreading the gospel to an unreached land would be the people of that land ultimately falling under the control of the anti – Christ. Or perhaps it would be better to think of it this way: what if the very reason why God wants to use His preachers of the gospel in a certain area is so the people there can hear it and reject it so that God can judge them? Please realize that God used Moses in a similar fashion before pharoah for the purposes of God judging the entire nation of Egypt, thereby glorifying Himself.

In the end, God’s Will alone shall be done, and the result will be God alone being glorified. Remember: it is ultimately not Christianity or even the church that will be glorified and whose righteousness will be vindicated, but Jesus Christ Himself, so that through Jesus Christ the Father alone will be vindicated. Think not that Jesus Christ saving you is in any way evidence of your righteousness or the correctness of your church or movement or of the church itself, but is instead merely proof that God alone is able to do the impossible, which is to save one individually (and the church collectively) from sin and the punishment of sin in the time, place, manner, and reason of His choosing. That, perhaps is the main thing that Christians should keep in mind when considering these endtimes scenarios lest they forget that it is God alone who will save them and as a consequence of their failure to remember God they will also fail to be elect and in that way be led astray, not so much by the man of sin but rather by their own pride of life.

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One Thing That The Hollywood Liberals Are Right About: Fascism

Posted by Job on March 4, 2007

Not long ago – less than a couple of years ago in fact – when I was living my prior existence as a far right wing ultraconservative hyperpartisan Republican, one of the things that so irritated me about the left – liberal types in Hollywood, academia, media, etc. was their attempts to – in my opinion – plunge the nation into fearmongering over fascism. This coincided with the election of George W. Bush, of course, and everything that Bush and his supporters purported to stand for – from capitalism to entitlement cuts to deregulation to (of course) Christianity – represented some pillar of the fascist regime that Bush and company were going to bring in. It was trotted out in virtually every oped column, scholarly paper, talk show, political speech, etc. and got so pervasive that even kids’ cartoons began to indulge in “fascism” fearmongering. Of course, what the left was doing was trying to recreate the same type of “McCarthyism” and “red scare” anticommunist environment that they believe that the right cooked up to wrest power from the Roosevelt – Truman – Kennedy Democrats. The left to this day feels that communism was never a threat – and indeed had a great many positive points – and that the right knew it, and pretended otherwise to A) scare and divide the electorate in order to steal political power that rightfully belonged to the left that the right would have never gained by legitimate means and B) to “discredit” and prevent the universal adoption of “communism’s good parts.” So, they felt it very appropriate to do the same regarding “the Christian right” that Bush supposedly represents (but as I conjecture REALLY does not), especially since unlike the peace – loving harmless communists, the Christian right IS a threat! So I regret to admit that my zeal to defend right wing GOP conservative causes and candidates at the time caused me to hatefully resent their “fascism bashing”, all of their bleating and scaremongering about “coming fascism”, etc. and ultimately became, well, SOFT ON FASCISM!

Now that I have abandoned GOP religious right politics and my eyes have cleared as a result, I must admit something: the liberals were right! After a fashion only and not in the way that they believe, of course, but they were right: fascism is coming. Whose fascism? Why the beast’s (or the anti – Christ’s!) of course! Again, turn your Bible to the book of Revelation and read its description of the reign of the beast and the false prophet, and remember that this evil person’s reign was mentioned in the book of Daniel as well. Allow your analytical mind to show you how the picture of how the prophetic apocalyptic language description of the reign of the beast on earth given in Daniel and Revelation would be implemented in practical terms in the real world, and you would quickly come to the realization that the beast’s regime IS INDEED FASCISTIC. It will be A) extremely imperialistic, B) built on authoritarian control enforced by brutal violence and the threat and fear of such violence, C) the beast will have not only total military and political control but ECONOMIC control as well (i.e. you will not be able to buy or sell without “the mark”) and D) the unifying force will be A STATE RELIGION (the false prophet will cause everyone to worship the beast and the image of the beast).

This is even better: study Nazi Germany! No, not the version given in Hollywood movies and the leftist “history books” that teach you that Hitler and his regime were just “religious right” types who hated Jews, homosexuals, immigrants, minorities, and (of course) communists. (And do not buy the “Hitler was a liberal” right wing revisionism that I myself used to peddle either; the truth is both the left and the right, both Republicans and Democrats, hold views that were espoused by Hitler. As a matter of fact, these “Left Behind” folks like Tim LaHaye who portray the anti – Christ as some liberal UN or EU type because the UN and the EU are their opponents in worldly politics is doing a great disservice … in fact it furthers the anti – Christ agenda. Do these people honestly think that if you are a right – wing conservative Republican you will be less likely to follow the anti – Christ and more likely to be taken in the rapture? Well, let me just say that Satan is more than pleased with that type of worldly self – righteousness where people believe that they are justified by their views, culture, and lifestyle rather than by grace and faith. Believe me, the right wingers will be eating out of the beast’s hand – and taking his mark on their own hand or forehead – just as will be the left wingers, Marxists, libertarians, anarchists, etc.) Just as the destruction of the first temple by Nebuchadnezzar was a foreshadowing of the destruction of the second temple and the end of the Jewish Age in 70 AD, and the desecration of the second temple by Antiochus Epiphanes in 168 BC was a foreshadowing of the desecration of the third temple that the beast will do (and as stated earlier, some Jews have begun speaking of restarting the animal sacrifices that the beast will halt), I am convinced that Nazi Germany was a foreshadowing of the reign of the beast. 

And yes, Nazi Germany did have a STRONG RELIGIOUS ELEMENT. This fact is currently obscured by the dishonest political debates of the day, with the left calling Hitler a Christian, hoping to thereby discredit Bible – believing Christians and drive them from politics and the public square. Rather than fighting their lies by standing for the truth, the “religious right” responds in kind, after a wordly manner, by claiming that because Hitler supported abortion, evolution, social programs, gun control, government ownership/control of private property and enterprise, wage and price controls, and unions that he and Democrats – especially the Clintons! – are one and the same. Instead, we have to talk about WHAT HITLER REALLY DID WITH RELIGION IN HIS EMPIRE: a very strong element of the Nazi regime was HITLER CREATING A PERVERTED FORM OF CHRISTIANITY THAT REPLACED THE WORSHIP OF GOD WITH THE WORSHIP OF THE STATE AND OF “THE HUMAN IDEAL OR THE SUPERIOR/PERFECT HUMAN” AND HAVING GERMANY ADOPT IT AS ITS STATE RELIGION! (Now even though this weblog does not shy away with the many problems regarding Roman Catholicism and Orthodox Christian Church, we are not among those who call the Catholic Church “the beast”, especially since the ones most famous for going around proclaiming that are the very same Seventh Day Adventists who claim that Jesus Christ and the archangel Michael are one and the same because they have to defend Ellen White’s “special revelations”, although it is curious to note that Catholic dogma itself) teaches that the beast will be an invalidly elected pope.) And part of parcel of Hitler doing so was conducting a reign of terror against the legitimate churches of the time – and rumor has it that there were not that many, and such was part of the problem that facilitated Hitler’s rise, and by the way such is the same climate today! – by having pastors who opposed Hitler’s idolatry imprisoned or murdered, their congregants terrorized, and churches burned. One fascinating – and terrifying – part of Hitler’s program was compelling churches to replace images of Yeshua HaMashiach and the saints with those of “gods” from Nordic mythology (and other things that represented Hitler’s notion of idealized humanity) and HAVING PATRIOTIC SONGS SUNG IN CHURCH in place of hymns honoring God. Again, I should point out that the state of Christianity in Germany at the time was in such a state of disrepair with a great many people practicing religion through traditions, rituals, and doctrines rather than actually attempting to honor or know God that (save the few instances where resistance was attempted) the changes went virtually unnoticed; people could not tell that the icons that they were praying to had been changed from Christ, “Virgin” Mary, the angels, and the saints to Thor, Odin, and whoever, and did not mind much the hymnal and liturgical changes. Yet, the spiritual consequences of this behavior plunged the whole nation into a state of darkness that made all of the Nazi crimes, including the Holocaust, happen.

Again, lots of professed Protestant Christians have tried to use Hitler’s crimes to indict Roman Catholicism, but in doing so they conveniently forget that the largest percentage of German Christians were actually LUTHERAN; that indeed Lutheranism and not Catholicism was the prior state or “official” (meaning tax – supported) form of Christianity. This is fitting, because Martin Luther himself was German, and the REFORMATION BEGAN IN GERMANY! So, instead of pointing the finger at one group of Christians that abandons the Bible and blaming the coming fascism of the beast and false prophet on THEM, instead what needs to be done is to hold up a MIRROR, and thereby examine our own beliefs and lifestyles that fail to conform to the teachings and example of Christ. How many churches have become social clubs, welfare centers, and political action committees? How many churches have abandoned the gospel of grace and mercy and redemption for legalism and works; the “holiness or hell” nonsense that was originated by the anti – Trinitarian Pentecostals but is now popular throughout Christendom because it encourages people to put their trust in works and outward signs rather than in faith (“whew, I spoke in tongues last night, so that means that I am really saved!”). What about the social gospel, the empowerment gospel, liberation theology, the prosperity gospel, and all of these other doctrines that teach men to seek and store up their treasure on earth rather than in Heaven? And what about this “purpose driven your best life now seeker power of positive thinking megachurch” religion that is nothing more than a New Age self – help motivational speaking movement with Christian windowdressing? (These folks are actually inviting the leading “self – help gurus” to come participate in their conferences and address their congregations.) What about the “many paths to heaven” universalism that has gripped most of our mainline denominations (and that speaks nothing of the ones who have up and decided that the Bible is just a bunch of stories and metaphors). And what about all of these “prosperity Word of Faith” people with their special revelations, claiming that Jesus Christ was made perfect when He received the Holy Spirit, or that He was born again in hell AFTER He died on the cross (if so, how did He resist Satan’s temptation during His fast? with the power of His own sinful flesh? And if His flesh was sinful BEFORE He went to the cross, what did His death on the cross accomplish that the death of Barabbas would not have? And since He was born not of Adam but of God, then does not that make God the original sinner who Himself is evil and depraved and needs a Saviour? See how this stuff negates the Bible?) So, you can just imagine how a charismatic (after the original sense, not the Christian, Holy Spirit sense) leader could get all of these church folk to worship HIM in place of God. How? Because they aren’t worshipping God NOW, that’s how. And as for all of the other religions: well they aren’t worshipping God either, remember? Either you worship God through Yeshua HaMashiach exclusively or you worship Satan every way else. There is no middle ground!

The Bible says: “where there are two or three gathered together in My Name there am I also in the midst of them.” Well, the converse of this statement is: “whenever a group of people get together around a common purpose whose goal is anything else BUT worshipping God only, then Satan just walks right in and takes over.” That was the lesson of the tower of Babel, that was the lesson in Nazi Germany, and that is what will come to fruition once again during the reign of the beast and the false prophet. The only question in my mind that remains: which side are you on? Let me give you a hint: if you are unsure, then you are on Satan’s side! I urgently entreat you to get on the right side: the winning team, which is God’s, right now! And if you already are on the right side, to start respresenting God in every facet of your life.  technorati tag:

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The Mormons Come To Defend Themselves! (Part II)

Posted by Job on February 22, 2007

FederalistPublishing says: Well Mr. self ordained prophet can you explain these biblical verses for me … I’m not a prophet like you claim to be …

Of course you are not a prophet like me. Why? Because you are a MORMON. Otherwise, you would pay attention to (or know the meaning of) Revelation 19:10 – “And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” Know what that means, my Mormon friend? That everyone who A) has and B) preaches the gospel of Yeshua HaMashiach, that the Word portion of the Triune God became flesh, died for our sins on the cross, fulfilled the law and Commandments given to Moses for us so that we would not be condemned to death by transgressing it (as all men but Yeshua HaMashiach did) rose again on the third day, and ascended back into Heaven retake His place in Heaven on and as the Right Hand of Father YHVH, and that He is coming back again IS A PROPHET. Why? Because we have the Holy Spirit, Ruach Hakadosh, in us and speaking through us. Because you have rejected the gospel though you read the very book that the gospel is within and thereby have BLASPHEMED that Holy Spirit, it is not within you, and therefore you are not a prophet like I am and as is everyone who has a personal relationship with Yeshua HaMashiach. If Yeshua HaMashiach were your TRUE savior instead of someone you FALSELY claim to be one, then you would understand and fulfill Revelation 19:10. But since you do not, you cannot.

“When the Indian’s even said that a white god had appeared to them, could that of possible been jesus?” Oh, that is rich! Oh wow, this Queztelcoatl myth! That can be explained so easily with II Corinthians 11:13-15!For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. Translation: QUETZELCOATL WAS A DEMON! JUST LIKE THE “ANGEL GABRIEL” THAT CAME TO MOHAMMED FOUNDER OF ISLAM WAS A DEMON! JUST LIKE THE ANGEL WHO CAME TO JOSEPH SMITH FOUNDER OF MORMONISM AND COMMANDED HIM TO BREAK THE TEN COMMANDMENTS BY SECRETLY MARRYING OTHER MEN’S WIVES WAS A DEMON! And this is so easy. You know why? BECAUSE YESHUA HAMASHIACH WAS NOT WHITE! ONLY EUROCENTRIC EUROPEANS – OF WHICH THE VERY RACIST JOSEPH SMITH INCONTROVERTIBLY WAS – CONSIDER YESHUA HAMASHIACH TO BE WHITE! When Yeshua HaMashiach walked the earth, He was the same color as the people that we bombed in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the people that we are profiling on airplanes! If Yeshua HaMashiach had appeared to the Native Americans, he would have appeared to them as one of them, not as the same race as that of the of people that would later BRUTALLY SUBJUGATE them!

“15: The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,
16: Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:
17: And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.”

Three sticks? You know what that is a prophetic picture of? TRINITY! THE FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY GHOST! Now, you do not believe in Trinity. You believe that Jesus Christ is a created being, THAT JESUS CHRIST AND SATAN ARE BROTHERS! You believe that Satan, the accuser of the brethren and the one who comes to kill, steal, and destroy, offered God a salvation plan along with Jesus Christ, and that God chose the plan of Jesus over the plan of Satan! You believe that Jesus Christ is merely a “super angel”, and that an angel came to the earth to pay the price for our sins! Well, an angel cannot do that. How, when man is a little higher than the angels (the correct translation of Psalm 8:5)? How, when ALL PEOPLE SAVED THROUGH CHRIST ARE GODS, CHILDREN OF THE MOST HIGH (Psalm 82:6, John 10:34)? (No, we are not going to become gods, upon accepting Christ we are gods already!) How, when I will JUDGE ANGELS (1 Corinthians 6:3)? The only acceptable sacrifice for our sins was GOD HIMSELF, not some other man, and not some angel, and according to YOUR RELIGION, SATAN’S PLAN FOR THE REDEMPTION OF MANKIND WOULD HAVE BEEN JUST FINE HAD GOD ACCEPTED IT! Oh yes, do the Mormons still believe that God is an alien, a man on another planet? Because if that is the case, then it would explain evolution, wouldn’t it? It wouldn’t explain pre – existence, however (as in who or what created the planet with the man that became God on it), but hey, you do what you can. I see that you have backed away from the notion that God had sexual relations with Mary to create Jesus Christ as Brigham Young taught, at least some of you have anyway; never mind what the BIBLE actually says, right? And oh, there are many gods, there is a mother god whom YHVH, and they have spirit children, right? And is Jesus Christ REALLY your savior? Are you sure? BECAUSE MORMONS BELIEVE IN PARTIAL ATONEMENT!

And this is the best part. Mormons preach that the “true gospel was lost from the earth, and the Book of Mormons are its restoration.” So that makes Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, and Paul a bunch of liars, doesn’t it? I am familiar with the cults who call only Paul the liar, but you all say EVERYONE in the New Testament is a liar. Well let me tell you this: even HAD the true gospel been lost, it would not have been revealed to Joseph Smith. Why? BECAUSE JOSEPH SMITH WAS NOT A JEW! Let me give you probably the most important verse of the Bible when it comes to being able to discern true doctrine from false “special revelation” such as those given to Mohammed, Joseph Smith, Charles Taze Russell, Mary Baker Eddy, Ellen White (the Seventh Day Adventist founder who claims that Jesus Christ and Michael the Archangel are one and the same), ex cathedra Catholics, gnostics, “Christian” liberals, universalists, Jesus Only Unitarian Oneness Pentecostal anti – Trinitarians, and everyone else for whom the Bible is not good enough for: John 4:22, which states SALVATION IS OF THE JEWS! That’s right, of the 66 books of the Reformed Christian Bible, 63 was written by Jews. The only exceptions are the Book of Job, which was pre – Semitic, the gospel of Luke, and Acts (both written by Luke, who was the scribe of the Jew Saul who became Paul). So if ANY of these extrabiblical or postbiblical revelations were valid, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO THE JEWS FIRST! WHY? BECAUSE THEY ARE GOD’S CHOSEN PEOPLE! ABRAHAM IS THE FATHER OF THE FAITH, AND THE REVELATION WOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO THE PEOPLE OF FAITH!

Now I am not going to even bother with the political stuff that you wrote on your comment ( is your website, very nice … now does that include your fellow Mormon Harry Reid?), because where I used to be addicted to politics big time (a very partisan and conservative Republican), I now work for someone whose kingdom is not of this world. And it is a shame that so many Christians are going to support Romney simply because he supports their little political issues. Those people are choosing the easy way of trying to impose their legalism on people using the government rather than the hard way of trying to change hearts with the gospel. I mean, who wants to leave their nice suburban gated communities in Kansas, go to some grimy inner city housing project in Washington D.C., Harlem, New York, or Miami, Florida, and minister to some 12 year old girl who is sexually active because she was molested by several of her mother’s “boyfriends”, to pray with her, get her accept the gospel, and cast demons of rejection, bitterness, hate, rape, murder, and suicide out of her? No, not us. We are proud red white and blue conservative mom and apple pie religious right conservatives, and that is not our way. No, we are going to deal with that problem by passing laws making it illegal to kill her child. That way, we do not have to deal with that messy little black girl or her messy little problems. And oh, we are going to cut her food stamps, WIC, and public housing so she and her baby will be out on the streets and she will have to prostitute herself (and her child when the child is old enough, and trust me it does not matter whether the child is male or female, clients will come regardless) to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table. Why? Because we are religious right conservatives. We believe in “personal responsibility.” Of course, God did not hold us personally responsible for OUR SINS, if He did, we would be headed for an eternity in the lake of fire! But even though God sent us His Son so that thanks to the true gospel we would NOT have to be personally responsible for our sins, we are going to adhere to some political doctrine belched out by Satan himself so we don’t have to have the compassion for anyone else that God had for us, and what is more we are going to stand up in church on Sunday and preach it as if it is in the Bible or something!

Well, I have to admit something to you Mormons, you guys aren’t the only ones that decided that the Bible isn’t good enough for you; plenty of Christians made that same decision. But I am not one of those Christians! If it isn’t in the Bible, then I have no regard for it, period, and that is one of the reasons why I am on here, to praise whatever is actually in the Bible and denounce all the religion, ritual, and heresy that isn’t.

Now again, Mormons, I do not hate you. I love you. I want you to come to know the true Jesus Christ. To worship a God whose Word never changes, and not some religion that has been evolving ever since Joseph Smith encountered a demon sent to turn this young nation away from Christ (just as the demon who visited Mohammed was sent to destroy the fast growing church in the Middle East in the 700s). I extend to you right now the opportunity for Jesus Christ to be your TRUE SAVIOR. Do not turn aside, have faith and only believe not the special revelations and words of demons and men but the Holy Spirit inspired totally consistent and completely unassailable word of the one true God. It is easy. Just follow The Three Step Salvation Plan, and by virtue of it be ready to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven and be with the True God, not some alien who lives near the star Kolob who himself would need a creator AND a savior were Mormonism true, for eternity.

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