The Necessity Of The Holy Trinity

Motivated at least in part by the current controvery over oneness heretic T.D. Jakes, (also here and here) please read two very good pieces on the importance of the Holy Trinity. Hopefully, this will help Christians understand that we are to separate with heretics, not dialogue with them.

On The Trinity: Part One – Hermeneutics

On the Trinity: Part Two – The Trinity, Central to Apologetics and Evangelism

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Why Does The Media Focus Only On Harold Camping?

Yes, Harold Camping has been exposed as a false prophet, deceiving many as concerning the timing of the second coming of Jesus Christ. Again. Yes, his deception has caused lots of problems and unnecessary harm, especially for his followers. Again. The question is this: what is the big deal? Why has Camping been the subject of such media attention for months when there are so many pressing stories to cover i.e. wars, famines, diseases, natural disasters, economic failures, political intrigues etc. on a global scale? Clearly the media has an agenda, but what is it?

First off, for the sake of sound doctrine, let it be known that the return of Jesus Christ will not occur until A) the gospel has been taken to all nations and B) a great apostasy, a great falling away from the true faith, occurs. As the great commission is a primary duty of the church, it logical to conclude that the falling away will occur shortly after the great commission is fulfilled, or when the great commission’s fulfillment and with it the time of the Gentiles draws to a close. Anyone who extricates themselves from rapture watching and religious right (or religious left) politics long enough to pay attention to the global missions movements knows that barring a fantastic miracle we are at least 100 years from fulfilling the great commission (the 10/40 window alone is an amazing challenge) and – despite the claims of Camping otherwise – far from there being a great falling away, there are more Christians – or definitely appreciable numbers of Christians in more places – today than at any time in history. So, if we can learn anything from this Camping episode, it is that we should heed the words given by angels and recorded by the physician Luke at the direction of God the Holy Spirit “why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.” That was an exhortation to cease waiting for eternity and to get on with the business of living for eternity by loving Jesus Christ and walking in His ways.

With that out of the way, let it further be said that the error of Camping does not undermine the authority of the Bible, Jesus Christ or His church but rather confirms it. How? Because the Bible repeatedly warns against false teachers, including those who would lead people into error concerning His second coming. Jesus Christ said that “false prophets shall deceive many” in Matthew 24:5, and that many will be offended by the true faith in Matthew 24:10. Such false teachings were present even while the New Testament was being written, as the apostle Peter referenced them in 2 Peter 3:4, the apostle John did the same in 1 John 2:18, and the apostle Paul did the same in 2 Thessalonians 2.  Further, Jesus Christ predicted such specifically in Matthew 24:4-5! The New Testament makes it clear that we identify false teachers when they teach things that are in contradiction to the Bible. This truth is what drove William Tyndale to martyrdom, when he stated “I defy the Pope and all his laws. If God spare my life ere many years, I will cause the boy that drives the plow to know more of the scriptures than you!” in response to being told that common people didn’t need to be knowledgeable concerning the Bible’s contents, because it was better to obey the pope than the Bible anyway. So, in rejecting Jesus Christ when He stated that none knows the timing of His return save God the Father (Matthew 24:36), and in rejecting Jesus Christ when He stated that the great commission will be fulfilled before He returns (Matthew 24:14) and in rejecting the Holy Spirit’s inspiration of Paul concerning the falling away first in 2 Thessalonians 2:3, this Camping teaches against things concerning God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, and by his doing so and attracting so many followers he verifies the pages of the New Testament when it said that such a thing would happen. So, Camping did not harm the authenticity or integrity of the Bible by being wrong, but rather verified the Bible’s truth! Instead, Camping’s being RIGHT would have been an occasion to challenge the veracity of the Bible, for were Jesus Christ to return before we reach the many tribes in the 10/40 window or while there are tens of millions of believers risking persecution to worship in Africa and Asia, what would be said of those Bible texts?

So, make no mistake, there is nothing special about Camping. Was not just over ten years ago when there were tons of false prophets claiming based on Bible codes and numerology that Jesus Christ was going to return in 2000? (Never mind that the Bible doesn’t follow our modern calendars, and that Bede almost certainly incorrectly calculated the date of the birth of Jesus Christ that we use for “B.C.” and “A.D.” anyway). Or about 25 years ago Jesus Christ was going to return because it was 40 years after of the establishment of the modern state of Israel? (Never mind that Jesus Christ spoke “this generation” to the Jews of His own time concerning the destruction of the temple in 70 A.D., and if the Bible actually does speak of the restoration of the political nation of Israel, it does not link this event to any timetable concerning Christ’s return.) So why all the fuss and the furor? It has to serve some sort of media agenda.

Consider this: how come when the subject in view is Usama bin Laden or some other Muslim terrorist, the media is quick to say “he isn’t a real Muslim” or “he doesn’t represent mainstream Islam that is practiced by hundreds of millions of peaceful followers”, but the media is quick to depict Camping as being in or near the mainstream of evangelical and fundamental Christians? In truth, as Camping rejects the Holy Trinity, he shouldn’t be classified as Christian at all. Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Muslims and Jews all reject the Holy Trinity, a core foundational doctrine of Christianity that sets it apart from other religions that are either polytheistic or present a false teaching on God’s Unity. But while the media does its best to present Islam and increasingly Mormonism as moderate and mainstream, it uses Camping to create a wild eyed, dangerous fanatical face for Bible-believing Christianity.

Another thing: it isn’t as if Camping is the only false prophet or source of wrong information. Far from it. It is just that when so many others get things wrong and are exposed for their false, anti-Biblical thinking, nothing is ever said about it. Instead, the media, the academy, the elites simply move on. (Or they carry on as if the error was never made.) Consider liberal Christianity, such as the critical “scholars.” Barely a year goes by when an archaeological find of a Biblical site or a scientific breakthrough that confirms Biblical truth or discovery of early manuscripts verifying the existence of historical persons, places and the integrity of Biblical texts that the critical scholars challenged, yet the critical scholars are still accepted as scholars, and their methods – which would never be used in any other field because of their ascientific nature – accepted as reliable.

But that is just the Bible, right? Wrong. Take psychology. The theories of giants in that field like Sigmund Freud and Alfred Kinsey have long been discredited. Yet they are still revered as having made great contributions to science, modern thought and human progress, and furthermore their discredited theories are still being taught as fact in our schools and universities. But psychology, save when it is based on experimentation and observation and does not deal with brain’s biology and chemistry, is a “soft science”, right? Sure, except that the theories in the hard sciences like physics and biology turn up erroneous also. Our schools still teach the long-discredited false leads in evolution theory, i.e. the “evolutionary timeline tree chart” that has long been abandoned as unworkable, and fossils allegedly showing primates evolving into humans that were actually either diseased humans or other animals as fact. You would be surprised to know how many of the things that were taught in science class has been quietly abandoned, how much more needs to be pushed from the classroom, and would be if the media held that community to the same scrutiny that it does evangelical and fundamental Christianity.

But that is just arcane science that has little relevance to our daily lives, so what harm does it do? Fine, except that the realm of false prophets also exists in government and policy. Many fantastic, dire predictions have been made and influenced the direction of governments and leaders to who knows what ends. Example? Global warming. Except that they couldn’t call it “global warming” anymore when many places in the world started experiencing prolonged unseasonably cold weather! So, the cause of the cold weather was attributed to greenhouse gas emissions also and “global warming” became “climate change.” I remember a specific prediction from the global warming prophets that had a lot of people frightened: after Hurricane Katrina and other large, powerful destructive hurricanes in 2005, the global warming community (the “climate change” moniker had not yet been instituted) claimed that the increase in the power and severity of the storms were caused by global warming, and that we could expect worse storms – and more of them – thereafter. They predicted that the hurricane season of 2006 was going to be one of the worst in history! All their models said so! What happened? We haven’t had anything approaching Katrina since.

Another example: peak oil. The experts a few decades back claimed that we had maxed out our oil production, that we had exploited the main reserves, that oil production was heading for an inevitable decline, and that we needed to alter our lifestyles and change our way of life to conserve what oil was left or face a global energy crisis. A few years after those dire predictions, some of the largest oil reserves in history were discovered, as well as technological breakthroughs for accessing oil, and possible new sources of oil, such as from shale and sand. (Do not mistake me for an oil company and fossil fuels advocate, quite the contrary I am fully supportive of alternative energy, and believe that a lot of great technology in that area is not being exploited.) And there was also the “overpopulation crisis.” It was promoted by folks who believed that if the world’s population reached 4 billion, it would become unsustainable, and the result would be mass famines and starvation, diseases, wars and environmental degradation. The only solution was immediate global population control programs! Well, now the world population is 6.75 billion and counting.

There is more. Remember when mad cow disease was going to ravage our food supply? Oprah Winfrey said “I’ll never eat a hamburger again!” (Of course, these folks OPPOSE abstinence from fornication as a defense against sexually transmitted disease as the Bible commands, but constantly promotes abstinence from eating the animals that God gave us dominion over and called lawful to eat.) Remember when bird flu was going to kill thousands, or tens of thousands? What about swine flu? Brought to you by the same false prophets who told you to run out and buy cellophane and masking tape to protect yourself from a nuclear terrorist attack after September 11th.

The prophets told us in the 1980s that AIDS was going to wipe out a significant portion of the U.S. population with little or no regard for lifestyle, and needless to say they were wrong, as AIDS rates only increased among homosexuals, the promiscuous and drug users while declining for everyone else. The lead false prophet was surgeon general C. Everett Koop, who used this false information to promote sex education and condom giveaways in schools starting in 3rd grade. Speaking of sex education, the false prophets told us that it would drastically reduce the venereal disease and teen/out of wedlock pregnancy rates, and it did neither. Instead, both shot through the roof, and further there are now new venereal diseases that even condom manufacturers acknowledge their products are useless against (not that you will ever hear that in any public school sex education program).

But wait, there’s more. The prophets told us that abandoning classical education for new education reforms (often based on Freudian or Marxist theories) would lead to markedly improved results and a transformation of society. They were totally wrong, American academic achievement has fallen off the map, and no one talks about it. The prophets told us that divorce and illegitimacy were GOOD for women, children and even most men, but education, poverty, drug use and incarceration rates say otherwise. The prophets claimed that we could eliminate racism through education. How is that working out? They claimed that we could eliminate poverty through government action, and now not only is poverty still a reality (as Jesus Christ said it would in Mark 14:7, not a favorite text among liberal theologians!) but unprecedented numbers of people in America and worldwide are reliant on government assistance of some kind. The false prophets also claimed that the triumph of Soviet communism was inevitable, and the best course of action was resignation, acceptance and learning from and becoming more like them, only to have the Soviet Union collapse and many remaining Marxist regimes like China and Viet Nam adopt more capitalistic economies. Those who predicted that the war on drugs and the war on terror (especially Afghanistan and Iraq) could be effectively and quickly won? Whatever happened to them?

The sociologists who said that eliminating censorship laws and allowing the free trafficking of pornography would make us more progressive and improve relations between the sexes? They have been nowhere to be found as rapists, child molesters and other sex criminals have proliferated, multiplying like rats. The social theorists who claimed that putting criminals in jail wouldn’t lower crime rates because the root causes were economic? Wrong, and verified when crime rates still remained lower despite two severe recessions and deep cuts in social services. (Well, street crime is lower anyway. White collar crime, the rich in their vain attempt to sate their lust for greed, remains through the roof. But the Bible said that this would happen concerning the wealthy also … see the book of James, which is not a favorite among political conservatives or those who teach the false prosperity gospel.) And another example: remember Barack HUSSEIN Obama’s claim that we had to immediately adopt a stimulus package to keep unemployment from hitting 8%? Unemployment has been at or near 10% for over two years! Anti-Christ? Probably not. False prophet? Definitely.

So, on one hand you have ONE Harold Camping, who again due to his rejection of the Holy Trinity and of many Bible texts (he forbids his followers from fellowshipping in local churches in violation of Hebrews 10:25) should not be considered a Christian is a false prophet. On the other hand, you have MANY worldly prophets who due to their embrace of ungodly, anti-Biblical ideas, doctrines, philosophies and imaginations that exalt themselves against God (2 Corinthians 10:5) that are utterly, totally and completely wrong all the time. Now both groups of false prophets are wrong for the same reason: their rejection of Biblical revelation as true, infallible, inerrant, and the final authority in all matters, and not merely things necessary for salvation. But the media and the elites shine the light on Camping to defame and discredit Christians who actually do adhere to the Bible while doing their best to cover up the fact that they so wrong so often on so many issues to the great harm of so many is appalling. It is hypocrisy at best, and a conspiratorial cover-up at worst. If anything, talking about Camping gives them an excuse to keep from having to address the huge mess that these folks have made of the economies, governments and societies of the world. Further, it allows them to transfer the blame from their failed policies – and the rejection of Jesus Christ and the Bible which reveals Him ideology that motivate them – to Christians, as if Christians are undermining their efforts.

Christians, for instance, are blamed for illegitimacy by opposing sex education. Christians are blamed for AIDS by opposing homosexuality. Christians are blamed for poor educational performance for opposing evolution. Christians are blamed for global warming for opposing climate change legislation. Christians are blamed for the wars and tension in the Middle East for supporting Israel and not a Palestinian state (by the way, I reject Zionism, and “Christian” Zionism is especially repugnant to what the Bible actually says, and John Hagee and not a few other false prophets follow this flawed school of interpretation). Christians are called misogynist for adhering to what the Bible says about the roles concerning men and women in the church, in marriages and homes and in society, and for opposing the murder of abortion. Christians are blamed for “Islamophobia” and “anti-Semitism” and “anti-Mormonism” for refusing to deny that Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven, and accused of undermining cultures with our missionary work. And the list goes on and on.

And it is only going to increase. As more and more ideas based on a rejection of the Bible and even of general revelation (see Romans 1:18-32) causes still more decline and failure, anger will increase against Christians. As the world continues to reap the fruit of the sin and wickedness that it sows, it will increasingly see Christians as scapegoats. Instead of repenting of their sins and acknowledging those as the true source of the misery and calamity, the blame will be on Christians for failing to get with the program.

This will climax in first sporadic but then general and organized attempts to silence Christians and remove us from their midst, in the hopes of keeping us from hindering their “progress.” This is far-fetched, you say? Not in the least, because it has already happened. An example is not merely the brutal repression and murder of Christians on a massive scale in the Soviet Union, China, Germany, Sudan and other totalitarian (whether Marxist, Muslim or fascist) regimes in the last century, but the experience of the church in the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire’s wealth, power and culture were declining due to the decadence and incompetence of its ruling classes, and from Nero to Decius, they saw Christians as a scapegoat.

The legitimate Christians refused to join in their state religion (an odd mix of paganism and patriotism not dissimilar from what goes on in our country today, including in not a few churches) so the Roman “gods” were angry. The Christians refused to join in their public activities (regrettably this is not a mark of contemporary Christianity!) so they were called “divisive” and were accused of undermining the common culture (in addition to not being patriotic!) that was allegedly needed to have a cohesive, strong empire. And Christians preached and taught against the immorality, wickedness and depravity of the people, the rulers and the times. They preached against the rampant adultery, homosexuality, violence and child molestation. They preached against the wanton excesses of the upper classes (again, not a mark of contemporary evangelical Christianity, unless the upper classes in view are Hollywood, government bureaucrats and other liberal elites). And they preached against paganism, not only by the people but the official state religion (again, the evangelical Christian preacher who even speaks of the freemasonry and occult that was vital to this nation’s founding and has been influential in it ever since is rare).

Then, the persecution began as sporadic and localized, but climaxed in a brutal, sustained attempt to completely rid the Roman Empire of Christianity. And despite the estimated ten million Christians that were killed by the Roman Empire (something that you will never see mentioned in history books or depicted in movies, as they are more wont to depict Christians as murderous crusaders and the like) and the carnage of the past hundred years, that is only a shadow of the real bloodbath to come. You see, unlike Harold Camping, I do not adhere to a rapture belief. Instead, I believe the Bible when it says that when the anti-Christ comes, it will be given to him to make war against the saints, and to overcome them. I believe the Bible when it says that the time of tribulation, of great sorrows, will be of such severity that it will be cut short so that the saints, the elect, will survive it. And I believe that the saints that were mentioned in Revelation and Matthew 24 that will see that horrible time are not Jews, or those converted by Jews during the great tribulation, but Christians.

And that is what it is all about. That is why turning an obscure preacher with questionable doctrine into an international news story lasting several cycles was done. It is why Westboro Baptist Church, a cult that has existed for decades, is only now becoming international news. It is why Terry Jones, an obscure leader of a small congregation, became an international pariah for burning a Koran when not only Muslims but the United States military routinely burns Bibles!

It is why terrorists attacks committed by atheists like Timothy McVeigh and Eric Rudolph are attributed to Christians. It is why violence against abortion clinics and doctors is an issue oft raised against Christians despite the fact that less than 5 such incidents have occurred in over 20 years, and only 1 in the past 10. The Hutaree militia drew headlines and a massive sting operation from the federal government as a Christian terrorism threat to rival that posed by Al Qaeda, and it turned out to be just a bunch of guys spinning yarns over the Internet.  Yet, the Marxist “liberation theology” types, not a few of whom were trained Soviet infiltrators, fanned the flames for any number of bloody murderous third world Marxist coups with their organizing and “preaching”, and the truth about their activities – and the level of support that they received from their ideological and religious fellow travelers in the U.S. – has never been documented by the media, Hollywood or our schools. Neither has the true history of our own “civil rights movement” – how it duped the black church and many well meaning white Americans into supporting Marxist subversive tactics, and how that movement was also organized by and rife with Soviet agents and sympathizers – been told, and nor can you expect them to spill the beans on their own false prophets.

The agitation propaganda against Christians will continue in the future just as it did in the Roman Empire. Christians should be heedful of the times, which means that we must be aware of what is going on, aware of where it is headed, and aware of whose agenda it is serving. That is why Christians should end these “battles” over “being represented in Hollywood” and the “culture wars” and “religious right politics” (and religious left politics) in favor of opening our eyes to the true state of affairs. Instead, we should study our Bibles, study about the early church during its time of persecution before Christianity was co-opted by the Roman Empire so that by learning about the church’s past, we can learn about the future – our future. Of course, the Bible tells us that Jesus Christ will win in the end and vindicate and save His church. But make no mistake: just as Jesus Christ suffered Gethsemane and His passion before His resurrection and glorification, the church, being less than its Master Jesus Christ, must also suffer many things. Christians must be prepared so that we might stand during the time to come, and endure to the end. This is a battle that will be won not by guns, money or governments but by faith in the God who is fighting on our side and prevail.

It must be asked: which side are you on? The side of God, or of the wicked? Though Camping was wrong, his error only proved the Bible to be correct. The Bible makes it clear that the wicked perish and that Jesus Christ and those who believe in Him will triumph. If you do not believe in Jesus Christ, make no mistake, you will be counted among the wicked, because no matter how good you perceive yourself to be, before a holy and perfect God you are a sinner. I urge you, repent of your sins, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved.

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A Question For Jesus Only Oneness Pentecostal Trinity Deniers

Oneness Pentecostals, as well as Christians who support and fellowship with oneness Pentecostals, here is a question of you.

The Bible declares God the Father, called the Ancient of Days (see Daniel 7, especially verses 9, 13, and 22) to be King in various places. The Bible declares God the Son, called the Angel of the Lord in His preincarnate form (see Joshua 5:14-15, also Exodus 3:4-6 cross referenced with Exodus 3:2, Acts 7:30, Acts 7:35 ) and the Word of God (John 1:1-18, Proverb 8 especially verse 30) and Jesus Christ to be King.

However, the Holy Spirit, called the Spirit of God the Father (Matthew 10:20, Isaiah 61:1, Luke 4:18) and the Spirit of God the Son (Galatians 4:6, Romans 8:9, Isaiah 61:1, Luke 4:18) is never declared to be King by scripture at any time. Also, where both God the Father and God the Son are both spoken of as being glorified and exalted, to my knowledge God the Holy Spirit is never spoken of by scripture as being glorified or exalted at any time.

How is this possible? I welcome your replies. Thank you.

National Religious Broadcasters Using Oneness Modalist Heretic TD Jakes To Get Out The Vote

Driving to work this morning viewing the effects of the terrible thunderstorms that spared my neighborhood but hard hit the one right next to mine, I was listening to Christian radio. Out of the blue comes TD Jakes’ booming voice. In it, he first speaks of how much he loves America and so forth. I immediately thought of Jakes doing this to exploit anger over Barack Hussein Obama, Michelle Obama, and Jeremiah Wright’s considerably less than jingoistic statements and actions. Then he went into his exhortation spiel for people to register and get out to vote. 

First, I see Lifeway Bookstores, owned by the Southern Baptist Convention, selling TD Jakes’ doctrinal error (oneness pentecostalism and the Word of Faith/prosperity doctrine are but a few of his MANY problems) and now the National Religious Broadcasters are using this guy. I had been using the NRB as a sort of a refuge from the blatant charismania that you will find on The Word Network, Trinity Broadcasting Network, Daystar, etc. So I just ignored the heavy Pat Robertson presence on the channel, as well as their “white Europeans are the descendants of the children of Israel … the Danube River is so named because of the tribe of Dan” show that comes on early in the morning. I also ignored their embrace of the Ellen White Seventh Day Adventist cult. So I suppose that I cannot cast NRB aside on Jakes’ account, since the ones that I just named are hardly better – if anything some might be worse – or else I would be reacting out of a personal dislike for Jakes rather than on principle. (On the other hand, Slice of Laodicea has criticized NRB, albeit for different reasons, such as this post stating that not one red cent of NRB’s $5 BILLION IN ASSETS is being used to defend the faith from Oprah Winfrey.)

Incidentally, speaking of TD Jakes and PR spots, he has another one out (I did not catch the sponsor!) promoting single sex education, saying that “boys need their own schools so that they will be able to, you know, romp and stuff (his choice of words not mine!) and that boys learn differently from girls and needed their own classrooms in order to be accommodated. So … it looks like Jakes is not that far removed from Jeremiah Wright’s separatist doctrines after all? 

I have to be honest, back when I was part of the religious right and allowing my worldview to be shaped by the Washington Times and the National Review, I was in full agreement. But now … I just recall reading about this inner city public school that went all male. Sure, the discipline problems decreased and the test scores went up. But when they interviewed the boys that attended the school, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WANTED THEM TO BRING THE GIRLS BACK! Why? Because, er … BOYS LIKE GIRLS! Or at least they are supposed to anyway. Perhaps now that T.D. Jakes is on board with the new world order’s gay rights agenda (and yes this is relevant … perhaps due to his son) he thinks it is OK. To me, the whole single sex education thing … who wants it? Certainly not the kids. Not the administrators or teachers. Parents go for it only because they are desperate for any hook or angle to improve the failing school systems that the government is ruining on purpose. Not even the old fashioned religious sorts – of which I am one – think that it is a good idea anymore, where you were supposed to keep boys and girls separate in their little boarding or finishing schools (where they were supposed to look OH SO CUTE in their little uniforms I guess) UNTIL GRADUATION DAY WHEN YOU MARRY THEM OFF.

Sorry people, but society has changed. Not all of the changes have been for the good, but methinks that one of the most important things for a boy to learn from school is how to treat a lady and how to behave yourself in their presence. For some of us guys, those things do not come naturally, and you only learn them through trial and error. Especially error. (If you don’t learn to handle competition and rejection in junior high and high school, how on earth are you supposed to handle being turned down for jobs, promotions, college choices, etc. later in life?) So … HOW ON EARTH ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO LEARN THOSE THINGS IF THERE ARE NO GIRLS AROUND TO LEARN THEM FROM? 

Like I said, TD Jakes may have his own reasons for wanting to turn your local public school into Morehouse College or similar, and whatever they are I oppose them 100%. All the more reason why the Southern Baptist Convention should not be selling this guy’s books and NRB shouldn’t be using him for their get out the vote campaign. But I suppose that this oneness anti – Trinitarian heretic is just too good at making money and moving public opinion for these people to pass up. That is, unless they are actually along with Jakes, on his side. After all, the Southern Baptists refuse to do anything about the likes of New Age heretic Erwin McManus and Council on Foreign Relations worker Rick Warren (and Richard Land too?), and as stated earlier, Al Sharpton Al Gore global warming propagandist partner Pat Robertson is a major partner with the NRB. 

TD Jakes Protege Suze Orman Is Gay!

Suze Orman was a frequent attraction at MegaFest to provide financial empowerment advice as this link demonstrates. Well as it turns out, Suze Orman is homosexual. Now in fairness to the apostate Jakes, he may not have known that Orman was homosexual (despite the fact that as a oneness pentecostal charismatic he is supposed to have spiritual discernment gifts … oh never mind!) as this Christian site states that Orman only recently came out of the closet. (Then again, that article professes not to care about Orman’s homosexuality because what truly matters is that she gives excellent financial advice so its Christian muster must be challenged. For example … suppose Orman were, say, RACIST as opposed to homosexual. Would that matter so long as she gave good financial advice? Somehow I think that it would matter very much, don’t you?)

Still, it does demonstrate the inherent flaw in preaching apostate prosperity Christianity, and also the mixing of sacred and secular whether by politics, entertainment, finance, etc. Orman was chosen to address the MegaFest audiences not because of her commitment to serving Jesus Christ as evidenced by her profession of faith verified by biblical living, but rather because of her celebrity. Yes, I said CELEBRITY, because though Orman is certainly a financial expert, so are a lot of people, including members of Jakes’ own church. Any number of bankers, accountants, stockbrokers, etc. are capable of giving out sound financial advice, especially to an audience that is supposed to be under a biblical mandate from the words of life spoken by Jesus Christ Himself not to be dedicated to the pursuit of filthy lucre. But none of the other people that Jakes could have easily gotten, including the many born – again Christians working in the financial industry pursuing their careers in Godly ways, have their own CNBC shows. So Jakes has no interest in them because they are useless in his agenda, which is not to honor Jesus Christ but rather honor himself by attracting huge crowds to make a name for himself, the same goal as the makers of the Tower of Babylon. Jakes was so intent to use MegaFest to establish himself as a major player in the fields that he has chosen for himself that he was actually willing to lose money by hosting the event. But once the crowds began to diminish and the media attention began to wane, Jakes pulled the plug.

So all TD Jakes using a celebrity financial adviser who turned out to be homosexual as a MegaFest draw helps prove is that MegaFest was never about Jesus Christ, the overwhelming majority of its attendees were not about Jesus Christ (if they were either their charismatic discernment gifts or their willingness to adhere to basic Bible teachings would have warned them to steer clear), and the people in T.D. Jakes circle are not about Jesus Christ. But then again, you knew that already, didn’t you?

Christian Capitalism: Has The Southern Baptist Convention Crossed The Line?

This may be a small indication, I know, but a real sign nonetheless. Lifeway Christian Stores is owned by the Southern Baptist Convention. This means that unlike the independent and corporate owned Christian bookstores, they should have a commitment to their own orthodoxy as well a responsibility to oppose the mammon in the Chri$tian book$tore indu$try, right? Well think again. Recently, when I walked into the local Lifeway Christian bookstore affiliate, I saw a devotional book by none other than lying oneness pentecostal Council on Foreign Relations heretic T.D. Jakes!

As if the Southern Baptist Church didn’t already have issues with emergent, antinomian, and Rick Warren Mike Huckabee purpose driven heretics. (By the way, like Paul Crouch said about his opponents, the Purpose Driven people say that we are going to the lake of fire.) This is just a small example of why some are trying to promote Al Mohler to take over the convention. 

Paula White Declares Herself To Be A Trinity

Actually, according to this IndependentConservative post, the term that she uses was “synergistic triune being”.

Now I am going to be fair to Paula White in this matter: it has long been a common teaching in Christianity that people have a body, soul, and spirit. Some further use that triadic division of our unity as a way of explaining the Holy Trinity doctrine and are made in the image of God, and they go quite a ways in speculating on the matter. I myself held and was promoting this doctrine until a few short months ago; I know that anyone who happens upon my old websites will definitely see my own frequent mentions of it, and I have almost certainly mentioned it on this one as well.

But this is a reason why, despite her assertions otherwise, that Paula White is not a better preacher than the apostle Paul as she claims in the video below. According to two evangelical Christian books on New Testament era Jewish – and Jewish Christian – thought on the doctrine of man, The New Testament: Its Background And Message (by Thomas Lea and David Black) and Jewish Backgrounds Of The New Testament (by Julius Scott) Jewish doctrine about the time of Paul – and remember that Paul was a trained Pharisee and onetime Sanhedrin member – man consists of two parts: the natural and the supernatural, the body and the spirit.

Well what of the soul? Traditional evangelical doctrine, as represented by Erickson’s modern classic Christian Theology, holds that the soul is the mind, will, and emotions, with the heart being the center of rational thinking. There is nothing supernatural or spiritual at all about your mind, will, and emotions. It is 100% natural, part of the body. As a matter of fact, it is what the apostle Paul calls “the flesh.” Mind, will, and emotions are not tangibly physical per se, but they are centered in and produced by the tangibly physical HUMAN BRAIN. Therefore, they are part of the body.

Proof of this: the sin of gluttony. A person is hungry, that is his tangibly physical body needs food to produce nutrients to sustain itself. Gluttony, though, is committed when the person eats far in excess of what his body demands. Maybe the person likes the taste of the food. Maybe the person is depressed or sad and is eating to to make himself happy or to cope. Maybe the person has been socialized or conditioned to eat until he can eat no more. In any event, the person’s eating is not driven by physical hunger, but his heart: his mental and emotional desire for food to meet his UNNATURAL soul hunger. Please note that for the glutton, while it is certainly possible to satisfy the physical hunger, it is impossible to satisfy the emotional and mental desire for food, and such a person will continue eating even after he ceases to gain pleasure or any other emotional or physical benefit from the act.

Now this is very important for the doctrine of salvation in my opinion. The Bible bears witness that even after the person is saved, he continues to sin in body (through acts) and soul (by desiring to sin, such as a man committing adultery by lusting after a woman not his wife). Now were the soul spirit, then how could one’s salvation be preserved? How could the saints persevere? Simple: the soul is not spirit. The soul is part of the body, so there is a separation between the sin in the body of the individual and the person’s saved redeemed spirit man. Now this may sound like the “P” portion of Calvinism’s “TULIP”, but the first person that I heard explain this doctrine of salvation was the free will (Arminian) charismatic preacher Andrew Wommack.

It is also an important part of Christology, the doctrine of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ incarnated is man – god, fully man and fully God! So, were man a trinity, then Jesus Christ incarnate would have been Trinity within Himself. That is a modalist (or oneness pentecostal) doctrine of God. While a oneness pentecostal would certainly say that this is an example of how Colossians 2:9 “For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily” is fulfilled in Jesus Christ according to their doctrines. That is disproven by the fact that incarnated Jesus Christ, being fully man, consists of a single body that is limited by the laws of physics – meaning that His physical body could only exist in one place at one time – just like any other natural man. This is why the doctrine that Jesus Christ was fully man and not kinda sorta man as the Docetists and some of the other Neoplatonist – inspired heretics of times past is so important: since incarnated Jesus Christ was 100% natural human, it was impossible for His body to be in heaven and on earth simultaneously. While Jesus Christ’s body that bore our sins was being broken for us on the cross, God the Father was turning His face away from that same body because He could not look upon the sin being borne by it, and was presumably weeping. So no, incarnated Jesus Christ is not Trinity or a Trinity. Incarnated Jesus Christ consists of a human body and a spirit man, just like us and all other humans (and yes, Christians who were trying to mix the Bible with Platonist and other pagan doctrines disputed that for centuries as well). The difference is that where our spirit men were created by God, the spirit man in the incarnated Jesus Christ is Logos of John 1:1, the Word Person of the Holy Trinity.

So while Paula White’s teaching in this area is exceedingly common and possibly even dominant – though I do not claim that it rises to the level of heresy that leads to apostasy, and those seeking to declare Paula White as apostate must do so on other grounds – it is still wrong. An example of this is how Benny Hinn takes this false doctrine to its logical conclusion: his “Trinity of Trinities” doctrine (also mentioned here) that IS a heretical proof of his apostasy (and but one at that). Simple: since each human person is a trinity in the image of God consisting of a body, soul, and spirit, then each Person of the Trinity also has three parts. (One wonders why Hinn stops the division there and does not keep dividing each person into infinity. I am almost certain that there is a pantheistic doctrine that offers a similar concept.)

Part of the confusion is that what is commonly referred to as “the soul” in Christianity is actually the spirit man, or the spirit of man (see Ecclesiastes 3:21). A similar mixing of terms is how “hell”, meaning Hades or sheol, is used in place of or interchangeably with “lake of fire.” I do agree that the Bible itself does not appear consistent on these two matters, but those might be translation issues. But the soul which is your thoughts, will, and emotions, while not physically part of the body, is part of the natural you that will die and return to dust. Your spirit man is the part that will exist forever either with God in glory or in the lake of fire in the second death! Jesus Christ determines where your eternal spirit of man will spend that eternity. If you have not done so already, please follow The Three Step Salvation Plan and give your spirit man to God today.

O Magnum Mysterium 3: Word of the Father Now in Flesh Appearing

From Sharper Iron. Read Part 1 and Part 2.

If Jesus Christ were not truly and perfectly God, He could not be our mediator. If Jesus Christ were not truly and perfectly human, He could not be our mediator. This much, Scripture makes clear. Our problem is that we have absolutely no experience with divine-human beings other than Jesus Christ. He is absolutely unique, the only one of His kind. For that reason, Christians have struggled to find words to express just who Jesus is.

With the Athanasian Creed we affirm that, as to their deity, the Father and Son are equally glorious, eternal, uncreated, incomprehensible, and almighty. Yet they are not two Gods, but one. So we confess. Nevertheless, we also confess that we do not comprehend what we affirm. While the relationship of the Father to the Son involves no logical contradiction, it is inexplicable and impenetrable to the human mind. It rises above reason. We do not understand how such a thing can be.

Already bewildered, we then encounter the full humanity of the Son. Here we discover a person who, as to His deity, is coequal, coeternal, and consubstantial with God the Father, but who, without ceasing to be fully God, also becomes fully human. We are asked to believe that a person who is equal with God is also one of us.

Not everyone agrees. Often, people reject what they cannot explain. Worse yet, they modify the truth to fit some human explanation. So they have done with the person of Christ. Some have denied His full deity. Ebionites saw Jesus as a good man, a teacher, and a prophet who kept the law. Arians explained Jesus as God’s first creation, so highly exalted above others that He could be called “a god,” but who was still not properly “God.” Adoptionists (Dynamic Monarchians) understood Jesus as a human who was elevated to divine status by some act of God.

Some have denied the distinction of the Son from the Father. The Sabellians (Modalistic Monarchians) affirmed that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were simply three modes in which God presented Himself and not actual personal distinctions. As the same man might appear as husband to his wife, as teacher to his students, and as peer to his fellows, God presented Himself at one time as Father, at another as Son, and at another as Holy Spirit. Ultimately, however, the Trinity is a mask, and God is one and only one person.

Others have denied Jesus’ complete humanity. Docetists believed that the human body of Jesus was a mere phantom projected by the divine Christ. Apollinarians taught that Jesus possessed a human body and soul, but that the place of the rational, human spirit was taken by the divine Logos (in other words, Christ was 3/3 divine but only 2/3 human). Eutychians affirmed complete divine and human natures but saw the human nature as so recessive as to be almost completely overwhelmed by the divine—rather like a drop of honey in an ocean of water. Still others have rejected the integrity of the person of Jesus Christ. Cerinthians believed that the divine Christ descended upon the human Jesus, only to abandon Him before the cross. Nestorians affirmed the full deity and full humanity of Christ but divided those two natures into two distinct persons, joined rather like Siamese twins.

The equal and opposite reaction was for others to affirm the unity of the person by denying the distinctiveness of the natures. Monophysites collapsed the divinity and humanity of Christ into a single nature. In principle this nature was supposed to be both divine and human, but in practice the divine so overwhelmed the human that Monophysitism became a reaffirmation of Eutychianism. A more subtle form of denying the distinction between the natures is Monothelitism, which denies that Jesus had a human will. De facto, this belief is a denial of the completeness of the human nature of Jesus.

These are not merely ancient heresies. They have had a tendency to reappear throughout church history. The Jehovah’s Witnesses are unreconstructed Arians. Mormonism applies Adoptionist principles, not only to Christ, but to all humanity. Many liberals have regarded Jesus simply as a human teacher or prophet, and contemporary biblical scholarship is witnessing a resurgence of interest in Gnostic understandings of Christ. Modalistic Monarchianism shows up in the teachings both of Witness Lee and of the so-called “Jesus Only Movement,” represented by the United Pentecostal Church. The Coptic Orthodox Church still defends Monophysitism and condemns the Council of Chalcedon as “divisive.”

Our understanding of the person of Christ has been hammered out in opposition to these heresies. Each new heretical theory forced Christians to return to the Scriptures in order to test the theory against the text. At each new controversy, Christians erected a new barrier against heresy. They were forced to say, “Scripture teaches this but not that. We may say it this way but not that way.” This process resulted in the adoption of several public summary statements, each of which was more specific than the one that preceded it.

At the end of the day, here is what we must affirm. If Jesus Christ were not true God, He could not be our savior. If Jesus Christ were not true human, He could not be our savior. If Jesus Christ were not one person, he could not be our savior. If the person of Christ were divided, then He could not be our savior. If the natures were combined or transmuted, then He could not be our savior. All of this belief is summarized and elaborated in the formula of Chalcedon.

Nothing is more important to Christianity than the incarnation of Jesus Christ. A false step here can lead us to deny the gospel and plunge us into apostasy. We learn about the old heresies so that we may confront the new ones. We confront the new ones so that we may keep the gospel pure. We aim for precision in our understanding of Jesus Christ so that we may trust Him and worship Him as He is, rather than worshiping a false Jesus whom we have manufactured in our own idolatrous hearts.

In one sense, we are indebted to the heretics. Everything that we need to know about Jesus Christ is in the text of Scripture. If we had not been challenged by the heretics, however, we never would have studied the Scriptures as they deserved to be studied. We never would have noticed the depth and texture and richness of the biblical teaching concerning the incarnation. The heretics have forced us to discover exactly what Scripture says and what it forbids us to say.

We cannot explain the incarnation. We cannot fully comprehend the notion of a theanthropic person. But we can learn to be precise in saying who He is and who He is not. We can know Him. We can trust Him. We can love Him. We can worship Him. Word of the Father, now in flesh appearing: O come, let us adore Him, Christ the Lord.

Christmas Carols Christina Rossetti (1830-1894)

Lo! Newborn Jesus
Soft and weak and small,
Wrapped in baby’s bands
By His Mother’s hands,
Lord God of all.

Lord God of Mary,
Whom His Lips caress
While He rocks to rest
On her milky breast
In helplessness.

Lord God of shepherds
Flocking through the cold.
Flocking through the dark
To the only Ark,
The only Fold.

Lord God of all things
Be they near or far,
Be they high or low;
Lord of storm and snow,
Angel and star.

Lord God of all men,—
My Lord and my God!
Thou who lovest me,
Keep me close to Thee
By staff and rod.

Lo! newborn Jesus
Loving great and small,
Love’s free Sacrifice,
Opening Arms and Eyes
To one and all.

^{This essay is by Dr. Kevin T. Bauder, president of Central Baptist Theological Seminary (Plymouth, MN).}

17 Million Oneness Pentecostals! – The Jesus Only Bunch

Source: Oneness Pentecostals- The Jesus Only Bunch

of http://spm100.wordpress.com
The only time that we have felt under a true Satanic attack was from a Jesus Only Pentecostal. This movement was started by a man who forgot the admonition of Matthew 15:9- “IN VAIN THEY WORSHIP ME, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men”. John Scheppe noted that during a night meditation that baptism must be done in the name of Jesus Christ only and not in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and several ministers began teaching this doctrine. What makes Scheppe any different than Joseph Smith who had several visions too that started Mormonism? The Oneness Pentecostals trace their roots back to the Azusa Street Revival where tongues got their start, and by a woman, no less.

17 million Oneness Pentecostals worldwide reject the Triune Godhead. The matter does not involve a slight deviation from the norm. What the Oneness group does is to make void the very essence of Christianity. They are under the mistaken notion of the Godhead consisting of three gods. Perhaps they’ve been listening to too many Joseph Smith lectures. When they baptize in the name of Jesus “only” they are applying heresy to the ritual. The Triune Godhead is One in essence and is wholly God. Jesus said that He and the Father are One (John 10:30). If you deny the Godhead, then you are following the commandments of men, that being John Scheppe based on one night’s meditation. If you accept that as biblical, then you ought also accept Joseph Smith’s visions as gospel. Are you up to that nonsense?

O Magnum Mysterium Part 2: O Come Let Us Adore Him!

O Magnum Mysterium, Part 2  Read Part 1. by Kevin T. Bauder

A mediator attempts to bring about reconciliation between two parties. In order to perform this task, mediators must possess one crucial qualification. They must have sympathies for both parties. A mediator whose sympathies are entirely on one side is not a mediator, but an accomplice and conspirator.

A priest is a kind of mediator. Priests represent humans before God, seeking to reconcile the wayward who have violated God’s justice. The writer to the Hebrews teaches that compassion for sinning people is one of the qualifications of a priest, particularly a high priest (Heb. 5:2-3). In order to gain this compassion, the Levitical high priest had to be one who “wore weakness.” Indeed, before he could offer a sacrifice for the sins of the people, he first had to offer a sacrifice for his own sins.

Although such a priest would have obvious sympathy for sinful people, he would lack adequate sympathy for God’s holiness. Because the priest was a sinner himself, he could offer no sacrifice that would truly propitiate God and expiate sin. His inadequacy did not consist in the fact that he experienced weakness. The failure was that, in his weakness, the priest himself had sinned. Therefore, he could represent only one side in the dispute. The efficacy of his sacrifice was necessarily limited.

The writer to the Hebrews affirms that Jesus Christ has become the final mediator who represents humans before God. He is our great High Priest. His work was to reconcile humans to God, propitiate God’s justice, expiate sins, and redeem sinners through the blood of His cross. There He offered Himself as a once-for-all sacrifice for sins.

The sacrifice of Jesus is wholly efficacious for all believers because He was both like and unlike earthly priests. He was unlike them in that He was the eternal Second Person of the Godhead. Of course He sympathized and identified with God. He was God! He understood the importance of justice, and He determined from eternity past that justice had to be fulfilled. He had no propensity merely to excuse or to overlook sins.

Furthermore, because of His divine nature, He did not and could not commit sins. The sacrifice that He offered was the only sacrifice ever offered that was utterly pure in itself, offered by a priest who was utterly pure in Himself. Because His sacrifice was backed by the infinite purity of His deity, it was the only sacrifice that could truly remove the infinite guilt of human sin and satisfy the infinite justice of a holy God. If Jesus were not truly God, then He could not be our savior.

On the other hand, Jesus was also like human priests in that He shared their nature and even their weakness. He did not take the nature of angels, but He entered the world as a true human being. The genuine humanness of Jesus is essential to His work as mediator. He could not represent us before God if He did not sympathize with us. For this reason, He necessarily had to be made like us in every way (apart from sin) in order that He might become a merciful and faithful High Priest. Therefore, He made the choice to “wear weakness” (see Heb. 5:2-3) like the Old Testament priests. What does this mean?

It means that, to His deity, the Second Person added a complete human nature. It also means that during the time of His humiliation He “emptied Himself” (Phil. 2:7, NASB) by receiving the form of a slave and coming to be in the likeness of humans. In His weakness, He experienced temptation and grief, manifested human piety, and learned obedience through suffering (Heb. 5:7-8).

In order to save us, Jesus had to be one of us. He had to experience the full force of human limitation, frailty, and weakness. He had to be tested, and He had to face testing with the same resources that are available to any human.

We fail to appreciate the utter humanity of Jesus Christ. True, during His humiliation Jesus never ceased to be God and never surrendered any divine attribute. The limitation that He accepted, however, was that He would not use His own divine power unless directed to do so by the Father. His faithfulness, therefore, was the faithfulness of a man, His labor was the labor of a man, and His weakness was the weakness of a man.

What about Jesus’ miracles? They were the deeds of the human Messiah, upon whom rested the Spirit of God without measure (John 3:34). This Spirit that gave power to Jesus was the Spirit of the Lord, the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and the fear of the Lord (Isa. 11:2). This immeasurable, seven-fold Spirit of God (Rev. 5:6) imparted such knowledge and ability as Jesus needed in order to perform His Messianic wonders. With rare exceptions, these wonders were not the direct manifestation of His own deity, but rather the demonstration of His complete dependence upon His Father through the Spirit.

The Lord Jesus was utterly human, fragile and weak, completely dependent upon His God and Father. In other words, He was exactly what any one of us should have been. Of all humans, Jesus Christ alone has lived a life of genuine, human righteousness, a life of perfect obedience. This active, human obedience constitutes the righteousness of Christ that is imputed to us when we believe.

Jesus no longer experiences humiliation. Since His resurrection and ascension, He has been exalted above the heavens. Our Brother now governs the universe. He once again receives the adoration of seraphim and cherubim. To the glory of His eternal deity, however, has been added the excellence of a perfect humanity. We worship Him as God, and we also revere Him as the Anointed One.

Though He is now exalted, Jesus has never forgotten what it means to be weak. He never will forget. Precisely because He walked this earth as a fragile human being, experienced testing, passed through suffering, and learned obedience, He is now qualified to be our merciful and faithful High Priest. He is the one mediator between God and humans. He is able to help us when we are tempted. He is able to save us to the uttermost. And for our part, we can come boldly to the throne of grace, knowing that we shall obtain mercy and find help in time of need.

Jesus Christ loves to embrace sinners. He delights to forgive. Before the demands of divine justice, He pleads the merit of His own blood and righteousness. He is our God, our Brother, and our Savior.

O come, let us adore Him: Christ the Lord!

Lord Jesus Christ, All Praise to Thee

Latin, XI cent., tr. Charles Kinchin (1711 – 1742)

Lord Jesus Christ, all praise to Thee,
That Thou wast pleased a man to be;
Our low estate Thou didst not scorn;
And angels sang to see Thee born.

The heavenly Father’s only Son,
He left His rightful glorious throne;
The Lord through Whom the worlds were made
Is in the humble manger laid.

The brightness of the Light divine
Doth now into our darkness shine;
It breaks upon sin’s gloomy night
And makes us children of the light.

The Father’s Son, for ever blest,
Becomes in His own world a Guest,
To lead us from this vale of strife
Into the everlasting life.

For us these wonders has He wrought
In love beyond our human thought.
Let Christians all now join to sing
Praise to our newborn Saviour King.

This essay is by Dr. Kevin T. Bauder, president of Central Baptist Theological Seminary (Plymouth, MN). Not every professor, student, or alumnus of Central Seminary necessarily agrees with every opinion that it expresses.

O Magnum Mysterium Part 1: O Come Let Us Adore Him!

http://www.sharperiron.org/2007/12/11/o-magnum-mysterium-part-1 by Kevin T. Bauder

All Christians at all times and in all places have one thing in common: we worship Jesus Christ. In His presence we feel compelled to bend the knee and bow the head. We cannot escape the feeling that He is worthy, not merely of esteem, respect, and admiration (as if He were simply the greatest of teachers and humanitarians), but rather of adoration, exaltation, and glorification. We worship Jesus Christ, and we long for the day when every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord (Phil. 2:10-11).

When we worship Jesus, we are tacitly acknowledging that He is God. None but God is worthy of worship. Apostles refused worship (Acts 14:14-15). Angels rejected it (Rev. 22:8-9). Herod was struck down with worms for accepting worship rather than giving glory to God (Acts 12:22-23). God alone is worthy of worship. He alone merits adoration.

Yet Jesus Christ freely accepted worship. He received worship from the man born blind (John 9:38). He accepted the worship of the disciples who were in the ship when He walked on the water (Matt. 14:33). He welcomed adoration from Thomas, who cried out, “My Lord and my God!” (John 20:28, KJV). The risen Lord Jesus offered no rebuke to the disciples when they clasped His feet and worshiped Him (Matt. 28:9).

In the Revelation, John shows the Lamb being adored along with the Father: “Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever” (Rev. 5:13). This is the very worship that every Christian yearns to offer. We long for the day when, finally in the presence of our Lord, we cast ourselves at His feet and wash them with the tears of our joy. We ache to cry out with redeemed hearts and minds and tongues, “Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing!” (Rev. 5:12).
Sometimes people express concern that the over-exaltation of the Son might somehow detract from the glory of the Father. They need not worry. Jesus Himself made it clear that the Father has committed all judgment to the Son, specifically in order that all people would honor the Son just as they honor the Father (John 5:22-23). That is, the Father delights in the honor and glory of the Son. The Father is most glorified when the Son is most magnified. Every bit of worship that is offered to Christ redounds to the glory of the Father. In fact, no one can worship the Father without worshiping the Son. Son-worship is the mode that the Father has given us to worship Himself.

In other words, the way that we worship the Father is by worshiping the Son. This is the case because of the kind of relationship that the Father and Son enjoy with each other. That relationship has no human analogy.

On the one hand, the Father and the Son are distinct persons. The Father blessed the Son at His baptism. The Son prayed to the Father repeatedly. In Gethsemane, the Son clearly distinguished His will from the will of the Father: “not my will, but thine, be done” (Luke 22:42). Any attempt to erase the distinction of persons (such as the Modalists try) reduces these exchanges to a grotesque form of shadowboxing. Scripture everywhere teaches that the Son is not the Father. They are distinct persons.

On the other hand, the Father and the Son are one God, for there is only one God. They are one and the same being, co-equal, co-eternal, and consubstantial. The Son is of one nature (homoousios) with the Father. He is not ontologically subordinate to the Father, though He did choose to subordinate Himself administratively during His humiliation.

This is the point at which language begins to fail us. We know that Father and Son are one and the same God, and we know that they are not the same person. Yet we have no experience whatever with distinct persons who are the same being. Our finite lives provide no analogue for the relationship of Father to Son. Almost every attempt to reason about this relationship is freighted with the risk of heresy. One tiny misstep in either direction, and we can end up denying something that is essential to the Faith. Whatever we say, we must be careful to maintain both fundamental insights: the Father and Son are not distinct beings, but they are not the same person.

One thing is certain, however. Because the Father and Son are one and the same God, the relationship between them must be far closer and more intimate than the relationship between any two created persons. From all eternity, they share each other’s being. In their infinite wisdom they know each other’s minds with precision. And their relationship is one of infinite, eternal, unsurpassable love.

Scripture describes this relationship by saying that the Father loves the Son. Because of this love, the Father has given all things into the hand of the Son (John 3:35). Because He loves the Son, the Father has completely disclosed His plan to the Son (John 5:20). He publicly declares the Son to be His beloved (Matt. 3:17; 17:5). Therefore, the Son declares the Father, displaying the love of the invisible God and making it accessible to human minds (John 1:18; 17:26).

So close is the connection between Father and Son that whoever has seen the Son has also seen the Father (John 14:9). The Father is like a bright light, and the Son is like the rays that come from the light; the Father is like the image on a die, and the Son is like the image on the coin that is struck by the die (Heb. 1:3). That is why every act of worship toward the Son is also an act of worship toward the Father. The Father desires nothing more than that Christ should have the preeminence because the entire fullness of Deity dwells in the Son in bodily form (Col. 1:18-19; 2:9).

With what words shall we confess this truth? No one has ever improved upon this expression: “[We believe] in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds; God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God; begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father, by whom all things were made.” Every lover of Jesus Christ thrills to these words. Every pious heart resonates. When we repeat the Nicene Creed, it is no vain repetition. Rather, we find ourselves exclaiming, “Yes! This is my Lord Jesus Christ!”

So let us bend our knees and bow our heads before Him. Let our hearts rejoice in Him even as our mouths confess Him. Let us glorify Him and magnify His name. O come, let us adore Him!

Is Jesus Only Oneness Pentecostalism Mormonism?

Go to the main website of Mormonism http://lds.org to their “basic beliefs” section, and EVENTUALLY you will get to http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/basic-beliefs/the-restoration-of-truth/god-is-your-loving-heavenly-father

which says “God has a body that looks like yours, though His body is immortal, perfected, and has a glory beyond description“. Which is heresy, right? Well how do we know it is heresy? Because Jesus Christ said so in John 4:24: “God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” The Mormons deny it in their Doctrines and Covenants: D&C 93: 33. For man is ^aspirit. The elements are ^beternal, and ^cspirit and element, inseparably connected, receive a fulness of joy D&C 130: 22. The ^aFather has a ^bbody of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of ^cSpirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not ^ddwell in us. (Now you see why presidential candidate Mitt Romney refuses to expound on his beliefs.)

So what does this have to do with oneness pentecostals? Well, read this from The Resurrection Body of Christ the Lord Part I by John C. Whitcomb, Th.D. That is right, BODY. When the Word, Jesus Christ, became flesh, HE TOOK ON A BODY. And according to Dr. Whitcomb, HE STILL HAS IT! Says Dr. Whitcomb: When He ascended to heaven, He did not leave His human nature behind, for “in Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily” (Col. 2:9). He will be God and man (two distinct natures) in one Person—forever!

So oneness people, what are your options? This does not harm the Trinitarians, for when Jesus Christ told the Samaritan woman that God is a spirit, He was speaking of the Holy Spirit and Father portions. You can, I suppose, claim that Jesus Christ was speaking of a mode of existence or a relationship. The problem is that it breaks down when Jesus Christ returned to His Father in Heaven to sit on the Father in Heaven’s right hand. When that happened, unless you have Three In One and Three Are One, then it means that the Incarnate Jesus Christ is the same false god as the Mormon god of flesh and bone. (Incidentally, please realize that Mormons themselves say no different: see here Theology: LDS god is in harmony with the Bible!)

You can say that the problem is solved because Jesus Christ returned to spirit form after ascending into Heaven. But there are problems with that.

1. The Bible does not say that He does. That one is dedicated to all the oneness people who say “the word Trinity is never used in the Bible.” I will go further, where Trinity is not mentioned but clearly depicted in the Bible, at no point does the Bible depict that Jesus Christ left His earthly body behind.

2. Paul seeing Jesus Christ on the road to Damascus. Now Paul did not see a vision. Nor did he see a theophany (what those who saw God in the Old Testament saw). No, Paul saw the resurrected Jesus Christ in bodily form.

3. All the references to Jesus Christ being seated on the right hand of the Father. You can say that it is anthropomorphic, such as the reference to God walking in the Garden of Eden (another one that the Mormons love to use to deny God being spirit). Problem: Stephen the martyr saw Jesus Christ in heaven standing before He was stoned to death!

4. Revelation, which speaks of the return of Jesus Christ. Well, when Jesus Christ returns, He will return PHYSICALLY. Acts 1:9-11 “And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen Him go into heaven.” And then we go to Revelation 19:11-13 which says how this return will occur: “And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.” Excuse me, but that does not describe the return of a spirit, a vision, or a theophany WHEN HEAVEN OPENS, but OF A BODY. How is this going to happen? Is Christ going to become incarnate again? Reincarnation? Well, you can believe that if you choose. But the Bible does not say so!

Please read the entire “Resurrection Body of Jesus Christ” series below.

Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6, Part 7, Part 8, Part 9, and Part 10.

Equal time: the case has been made by a Trinitarian whose views I greatly respect that John 17:5 and Revelation 1:14-15 denies Jesus Christ having His resurrected body. I say that Zechariah 12:10 deals with Revelation 1:14-15 by virtue of being a prophecy of Jesus Christ’s return: “And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.”

Again, yet another reason why Trinity matters: it separates Christianity from the false religions.

Jesus Only Oneness Pentecostalism: Did Jesus Christ Deny His Own Divinity?

A lot of people accuse me of causing unnecessary strife and division with my contending against oneness pentecostalism, saying that one way or another it is just a doctrine that no one understands with good arguments one way or the other, so that the only thing that matters is believing in the deity and resurrection of Jesus Christ and being holy. The problem with this, however, is that the actual contents of the Bible say otherwise. First, we have this fascinating statement from Jesus Christ that appears in all three of the synoptic gospels:

Matthew 19:17: And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Mark 10:18: And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

Luke 18:19: And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

So from reading these scriptures, what conclusion should you come to? That Jesus Christ was not God, but only a messenger of God: a prophet, a special man, or perhaps an angel. Right? Realize that many who deny the deity of Jesus Christ use those scriptures and similar to claim just that! But instead, let us examine these scriptures more closely.

You might recognize this as the incident of the rich young ruler. Realize that at no time did Jesus Christ openly declare His divinity. He came the closest to the Samaritan woman (when He acknowledged being the Messiah, and neither the Jews nor the Samaritans were expecting the Messiah to be deity), when He said “before Abraham was, ‘I AM'”, and at His trial when He spoke of Himself as the Son of Man (which Judaism did not take to be a term referring to deity but rather an angel or prophet) who would sit next to the Father. Jesus Christ rather waited for others to declare His deity (as with Simon Peter, Thomas, and the woman taken in adultery). With Simon Peter, Jesus Christ asserted that knowledge and acceptance of His deity came not from man, but rather from the Holy Ghost. We can presume that to be the case in general.

Based on the behavior of the rich young ruler, who chose NOT to follow Jesus Christ but turned aside, we can presume that this fellow was not aware of Jesus Christ being deity, but rather considered Him to be a great prophet or teacher. Jesus Christ, of course, knew this. There are various examples in scripture of Jesus Christ being willing to suffer such people for a time and meet them where they were, but driving them off when He became weary of them, such as His telling the throng “you must eat my flesh and drink my blood to have eternal life”, and they replied that the teaching was too hard and all but a few left, and even those few He asked “Will ye go also?”

So when Jesus Christ told this man not to call Him good but that there was none good but God, he was speaking to a JEW that did not know HIM as God but only knew of the FATHER, the Father in Heaven whom Christ said that A) He came from, B) whose Will He was doing, C) was His own Father, D) that He would return to. The Father who spoke from Heaven when He was being baptized. The Father who forsook Him when He was on the cross bearing our sins. Deuteronomy 6:4 says “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD.” And Jesus Christ said no different. He said “I and the Father are One.” But He never said “I and the Father are THE SAME.”

Realize that according to Jewish law, worshiping any but the Father was blasphemy. When Christ forbad the rich young ruler from calling Him good, He was telling the young ruler to either recognize and worship Him as God or worship the Father only!

And here is one even more problematic. John 14:7-10 reads “If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.”

This is actually oft used in support of oneness, despite A) Jesus Christ saying that there was none good but the Father to the rich young ruler and B) Jesus Christ saying that He was IN the Father and the Father IN Him (which actually opposes manifestations, modes of existence, relationships, “God is like an egg with the Father being the yolk, the Son being the white, and the Spirit being the shell”, and all other oneness doctrines).

But that is not the point. The point is here: John 1:18 “No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared Him.” So reconcile that with John 14:7-10 i.e. he that hath seen me hath seen the Father why don’t you? Claiming that John the beloved disciple rejected the deity of Jesus Christ is ridiculous. Claiming that Jesus Christ did not recognize His own deity or that He lied is also unacceptable, as is claiming that John 1:18 is wrong. The only explanation: the God that was referring to John 1:18 is Adonai, the Ancient of Days, God the Father. You can claim that John 1:18 refers to no one ever having seen the Father manifestation, relationship, mode of existence, egg yolk, etc. at any time, but at no point does the Bible say that. Just as (and again, to borrow from the oneness people themselves) the Bible never uses the term “Trinity.”

So as you see, Trinity either denies the deity of Jesus Christ or makes the New Testament plainly ridiculous. So Christians, it is not just some doctrine that can be accepted or discarded as a whim. Quite the contrary, the integrity of the Bible (for it is easy to see Trinity in the Old Testament as well once accepts it) and Christianity with it is at stake. As such, any Trinitarian Christian that chooses to support the oneness preachers, fellowship with oneness pentecostals, etc. then you are joining hands with those that are divided against scripture.

What did Jesus Christ say about divided houses? They shall not stand. Christians that play games with the Bible in this fashion are double minded. What does James 1:8 say about double – minded? “A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.” Pay special attention to the verse before it. “Let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.” Lest I be accused of playing games, James 1:2-8 is about the double – minded. You say that double – minded refers to those that lack faith? Well so do I. Oneness pentecostals deny that the Bible’s many references to Trinity are true, and use excuses that they themselves do not live by in other context (i.e. trinity not being mentioned in the Bible … neither is the term incarnation, the term that refers to the Word becoming flesh, by the way) and with their lack of faith that Deuteronomy 6:4 denies that God can exist eternally in three Persons without being three gods.

If you are a oneness pentecostal or other denier of Trinity and this presentation has not convinced you, well we shall have to agree to disagree. The purpose of this is Trinitarians that see nothing wrong with following, supporting, and fellowshipping and worshiping with those that deny this doctrine, claiming that it does not matter. I say that claiming that Jesus Christ denied His divinity in one place only to affirm it in another, or that John contradicted himself in his own gospel are very serious matters indeed that go to the heart of scripture and the foundation of our faith! It is more than about the pastor with great preaching skills, the speaking and tongues and shouting, or the outstanding choir and praise and worship, or seeing these famous preachers on TV (during which time many of whom do not speak of their opposition to the true nature of God) with their huge churches. Without sound doctrine, it is all in vain, like chaff consumed in a fire.

And no, this is not a “let the wheat and tare grow together” instance. Otherwise, that would contradict the warning to the church in Revelation 18:4: “And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” Since Jesus Christ cannot and does not disagree with scripture, Matthew 13:24-40 clearly says that the field that the tares are sowed into is THE WORLD, not the church. That would make oneness tares, part of the world that we are told to come out of in Revelation 18:4. And see what James 4:4 has to say about friendship with the world. Christianity is 100% serious, which means that Christians must stop playing games and start taking the scriptures seriously!