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Why Does The Media Focus Only On Harold Camping?

Posted by Job on May 26, 2011

Yes, Harold Camping has been exposed as a false prophet, deceiving many as concerning the timing of the second coming of Jesus Christ. Again. Yes, his deception has caused lots of problems and unnecessary harm, especially for his followers. Again. The question is this: what is the big deal? Why has Camping been the subject of such media attention for months when there are so many pressing stories to cover i.e. wars, famines, diseases, natural disasters, economic failures, political intrigues etc. on a global scale? Clearly the media has an agenda, but what is it?

First off, for the sake of sound doctrine, let it be known that the return of Jesus Christ will not occur until A) the gospel has been taken to all nations and B) a great apostasy, a great falling away from the true faith, occurs. As the great commission is a primary duty of the church, it logical to conclude that the falling away will occur shortly after the great commission is fulfilled, or when the great commission’s fulfillment and with it the time of the Gentiles draws to a close. Anyone who extricates themselves from rapture watching and religious right (or religious left) politics long enough to pay attention to the global missions movements knows that barring a fantastic miracle we are at least 100 years from fulfilling the great commission (the 10/40 window alone is an amazing challenge) and – despite the claims of Camping otherwise – far from there being a great falling away, there are more Christians – or definitely appreciable numbers of Christians in more places – today than at any time in history. So, if we can learn anything from this Camping episode, it is that we should heed the words given by angels and recorded by the physician Luke at the direction of God the Holy Spirit “why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.” That was an exhortation to cease waiting for eternity and to get on with the business of living for eternity by loving Jesus Christ and walking in His ways.

With that out of the way, let it further be said that the error of Camping does not undermine the authority of the Bible, Jesus Christ or His church but rather confirms it. How? Because the Bible repeatedly warns against false teachers, including those who would lead people into error concerning His second coming. Jesus Christ said that “false prophets shall deceive many” in Matthew 24:5, and that many will be offended by the true faith in Matthew 24:10. Such false teachings were present even while the New Testament was being written, as the apostle Peter referenced them in 2 Peter 3:4, the apostle John did the same in 1 John 2:18, and the apostle Paul did the same in 2 Thessalonians 2.  Further, Jesus Christ predicted such specifically in Matthew 24:4-5! The New Testament makes it clear that we identify false teachers when they teach things that are in contradiction to the Bible. This truth is what drove William Tyndale to martyrdom, when he stated “I defy the Pope and all his laws. If God spare my life ere many years, I will cause the boy that drives the plow to know more of the scriptures than you!” in response to being told that common people didn’t need to be knowledgeable concerning the Bible’s contents, because it was better to obey the pope than the Bible anyway. So, in rejecting Jesus Christ when He stated that none knows the timing of His return save God the Father (Matthew 24:36), and in rejecting Jesus Christ when He stated that the great commission will be fulfilled before He returns (Matthew 24:14) and in rejecting the Holy Spirit’s inspiration of Paul concerning the falling away first in 2 Thessalonians 2:3, this Camping teaches against things concerning God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, and by his doing so and attracting so many followers he verifies the pages of the New Testament when it said that such a thing would happen. So, Camping did not harm the authenticity or integrity of the Bible by being wrong, but rather verified the Bible’s truth! Instead, Camping’s being RIGHT would have been an occasion to challenge the veracity of the Bible, for were Jesus Christ to return before we reach the many tribes in the 10/40 window or while there are tens of millions of believers risking persecution to worship in Africa and Asia, what would be said of those Bible texts?

So, make no mistake, there is nothing special about Camping. Was not just over ten years ago when there were tons of false prophets claiming based on Bible codes and numerology that Jesus Christ was going to return in 2000? (Never mind that the Bible doesn’t follow our modern calendars, and that Bede almost certainly incorrectly calculated the date of the birth of Jesus Christ that we use for “B.C.” and “A.D.” anyway). Or about 25 years ago Jesus Christ was going to return because it was 40 years after of the establishment of the modern state of Israel? (Never mind that Jesus Christ spoke “this generation” to the Jews of His own time concerning the destruction of the temple in 70 A.D., and if the Bible actually does speak of the restoration of the political nation of Israel, it does not link this event to any timetable concerning Christ’s return.) So why all the fuss and the furor? It has to serve some sort of media agenda.

Consider this: how come when the subject in view is Usama bin Laden or some other Muslim terrorist, the media is quick to say “he isn’t a real Muslim” or “he doesn’t represent mainstream Islam that is practiced by hundreds of millions of peaceful followers”, but the media is quick to depict Camping as being in or near the mainstream of evangelical and fundamental Christians? In truth, as Camping rejects the Holy Trinity, he shouldn’t be classified as Christian at all. Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Muslims and Jews all reject the Holy Trinity, a core foundational doctrine of Christianity that sets it apart from other religions that are either polytheistic or present a false teaching on God’s Unity. But while the media does its best to present Islam and increasingly Mormonism as moderate and mainstream, it uses Camping to create a wild eyed, dangerous fanatical face for Bible-believing Christianity.

Another thing: it isn’t as if Camping is the only false prophet or source of wrong information. Far from it. It is just that when so many others get things wrong and are exposed for their false, anti-Biblical thinking, nothing is ever said about it. Instead, the media, the academy, the elites simply move on. (Or they carry on as if the error was never made.) Consider liberal Christianity, such as the critical “scholars.” Barely a year goes by when an archaeological find of a Biblical site or a scientific breakthrough that confirms Biblical truth or discovery of early manuscripts verifying the existence of historical persons, places and the integrity of Biblical texts that the critical scholars challenged, yet the critical scholars are still accepted as scholars, and their methods – which would never be used in any other field because of their ascientific nature – accepted as reliable.

But that is just the Bible, right? Wrong. Take psychology. The theories of giants in that field like Sigmund Freud and Alfred Kinsey have long been discredited. Yet they are still revered as having made great contributions to science, modern thought and human progress, and furthermore their discredited theories are still being taught as fact in our schools and universities. But psychology, save when it is based on experimentation and observation and does not deal with brain’s biology and chemistry, is a “soft science”, right? Sure, except that the theories in the hard sciences like physics and biology turn up erroneous also. Our schools still teach the long-discredited false leads in evolution theory, i.e. the “evolutionary timeline tree chart” that has long been abandoned as unworkable, and fossils allegedly showing primates evolving into humans that were actually either diseased humans or other animals as fact. You would be surprised to know how many of the things that were taught in science class has been quietly abandoned, how much more needs to be pushed from the classroom, and would be if the media held that community to the same scrutiny that it does evangelical and fundamental Christianity.

But that is just arcane science that has little relevance to our daily lives, so what harm does it do? Fine, except that the realm of false prophets also exists in government and policy. Many fantastic, dire predictions have been made and influenced the direction of governments and leaders to who knows what ends. Example? Global warming. Except that they couldn’t call it “global warming” anymore when many places in the world started experiencing prolonged unseasonably cold weather! So, the cause of the cold weather was attributed to greenhouse gas emissions also and “global warming” became “climate change.” I remember a specific prediction from the global warming prophets that had a lot of people frightened: after Hurricane Katrina and other large, powerful destructive hurricanes in 2005, the global warming community (the “climate change” moniker had not yet been instituted) claimed that the increase in the power and severity of the storms were caused by global warming, and that we could expect worse storms – and more of them – thereafter. They predicted that the hurricane season of 2006 was going to be one of the worst in history! All their models said so! What happened? We haven’t had anything approaching Katrina since.

Another example: peak oil. The experts a few decades back claimed that we had maxed out our oil production, that we had exploited the main reserves, that oil production was heading for an inevitable decline, and that we needed to alter our lifestyles and change our way of life to conserve what oil was left or face a global energy crisis. A few years after those dire predictions, some of the largest oil reserves in history were discovered, as well as technological breakthroughs for accessing oil, and possible new sources of oil, such as from shale and sand. (Do not mistake me for an oil company and fossil fuels advocate, quite the contrary I am fully supportive of alternative energy, and believe that a lot of great technology in that area is not being exploited.) And there was also the “overpopulation crisis.” It was promoted by folks who believed that if the world’s population reached 4 billion, it would become unsustainable, and the result would be mass famines and starvation, diseases, wars and environmental degradation. The only solution was immediate global population control programs! Well, now the world population is 6.75 billion and counting.

There is more. Remember when mad cow disease was going to ravage our food supply? Oprah Winfrey said “I’ll never eat a hamburger again!” (Of course, these folks OPPOSE abstinence from fornication as a defense against sexually transmitted disease as the Bible commands, but constantly promotes abstinence from eating the animals that God gave us dominion over and called lawful to eat.) Remember when bird flu was going to kill thousands, or tens of thousands? What about swine flu? Brought to you by the same false prophets who told you to run out and buy cellophane and masking tape to protect yourself from a nuclear terrorist attack after September 11th.

The prophets told us in the 1980s that AIDS was going to wipe out a significant portion of the U.S. population with little or no regard for lifestyle, and needless to say they were wrong, as AIDS rates only increased among homosexuals, the promiscuous and drug users while declining for everyone else. The lead false prophet was surgeon general C. Everett Koop, who used this false information to promote sex education and condom giveaways in schools starting in 3rd grade. Speaking of sex education, the false prophets told us that it would drastically reduce the venereal disease and teen/out of wedlock pregnancy rates, and it did neither. Instead, both shot through the roof, and further there are now new venereal diseases that even condom manufacturers acknowledge their products are useless against (not that you will ever hear that in any public school sex education program).

But wait, there’s more. The prophets told us that abandoning classical education for new education reforms (often based on Freudian or Marxist theories) would lead to markedly improved results and a transformation of society. They were totally wrong, American academic achievement has fallen off the map, and no one talks about it. The prophets told us that divorce and illegitimacy were GOOD for women, children and even most men, but education, poverty, drug use and incarceration rates say otherwise. The prophets claimed that we could eliminate racism through education. How is that working out? They claimed that we could eliminate poverty through government action, and now not only is poverty still a reality (as Jesus Christ said it would in Mark 14:7, not a favorite text among liberal theologians!) but unprecedented numbers of people in America and worldwide are reliant on government assistance of some kind. The false prophets also claimed that the triumph of Soviet communism was inevitable, and the best course of action was resignation, acceptance and learning from and becoming more like them, only to have the Soviet Union collapse and many remaining Marxist regimes like China and Viet Nam adopt more capitalistic economies. Those who predicted that the war on drugs and the war on terror (especially Afghanistan and Iraq) could be effectively and quickly won? Whatever happened to them?

The sociologists who said that eliminating censorship laws and allowing the free trafficking of pornography would make us more progressive and improve relations between the sexes? They have been nowhere to be found as rapists, child molesters and other sex criminals have proliferated, multiplying like rats. The social theorists who claimed that putting criminals in jail wouldn’t lower crime rates because the root causes were economic? Wrong, and verified when crime rates still remained lower despite two severe recessions and deep cuts in social services. (Well, street crime is lower anyway. White collar crime, the rich in their vain attempt to sate their lust for greed, remains through the roof. But the Bible said that this would happen concerning the wealthy also … see the book of James, which is not a favorite among political conservatives or those who teach the false prosperity gospel.) And another example: remember Barack HUSSEIN Obama’s claim that we had to immediately adopt a stimulus package to keep unemployment from hitting 8%? Unemployment has been at or near 10% for over two years! Anti-Christ? Probably not. False prophet? Definitely.

So, on one hand you have ONE Harold Camping, who again due to his rejection of the Holy Trinity and of many Bible texts (he forbids his followers from fellowshipping in local churches in violation of Hebrews 10:25) should not be considered a Christian is a false prophet. On the other hand, you have MANY worldly prophets who due to their embrace of ungodly, anti-Biblical ideas, doctrines, philosophies and imaginations that exalt themselves against God (2 Corinthians 10:5) that are utterly, totally and completely wrong all the time. Now both groups of false prophets are wrong for the same reason: their rejection of Biblical revelation as true, infallible, inerrant, and the final authority in all matters, and not merely things necessary for salvation. But the media and the elites shine the light on Camping to defame and discredit Christians who actually do adhere to the Bible while doing their best to cover up the fact that they so wrong so often on so many issues to the great harm of so many is appalling. It is hypocrisy at best, and a conspiratorial cover-up at worst. If anything, talking about Camping gives them an excuse to keep from having to address the huge mess that these folks have made of the economies, governments and societies of the world. Further, it allows them to transfer the blame from their failed policies – and the rejection of Jesus Christ and the Bible which reveals Him ideology that motivate them – to Christians, as if Christians are undermining their efforts.

Christians, for instance, are blamed for illegitimacy by opposing sex education. Christians are blamed for AIDS by opposing homosexuality. Christians are blamed for poor educational performance for opposing evolution. Christians are blamed for global warming for opposing climate change legislation. Christians are blamed for the wars and tension in the Middle East for supporting Israel and not a Palestinian state (by the way, I reject Zionism, and “Christian” Zionism is especially repugnant to what the Bible actually says, and John Hagee and not a few other false prophets follow this flawed school of interpretation). Christians are called misogynist for adhering to what the Bible says about the roles concerning men and women in the church, in marriages and homes and in society, and for opposing the murder of abortion. Christians are blamed for “Islamophobia” and “anti-Semitism” and “anti-Mormonism” for refusing to deny that Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven, and accused of undermining cultures with our missionary work. And the list goes on and on.

And it is only going to increase. As more and more ideas based on a rejection of the Bible and even of general revelation (see Romans 1:18-32) causes still more decline and failure, anger will increase against Christians. As the world continues to reap the fruit of the sin and wickedness that it sows, it will increasingly see Christians as scapegoats. Instead of repenting of their sins and acknowledging those as the true source of the misery and calamity, the blame will be on Christians for failing to get with the program.

This will climax in first sporadic but then general and organized attempts to silence Christians and remove us from their midst, in the hopes of keeping us from hindering their “progress.” This is far-fetched, you say? Not in the least, because it has already happened. An example is not merely the brutal repression and murder of Christians on a massive scale in the Soviet Union, China, Germany, Sudan and other totalitarian (whether Marxist, Muslim or fascist) regimes in the last century, but the experience of the church in the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire’s wealth, power and culture were declining due to the decadence and incompetence of its ruling classes, and from Nero to Decius, they saw Christians as a scapegoat.

The legitimate Christians refused to join in their state religion (an odd mix of paganism and patriotism not dissimilar from what goes on in our country today, including in not a few churches) so the Roman “gods” were angry. The Christians refused to join in their public activities (regrettably this is not a mark of contemporary Christianity!) so they were called “divisive” and were accused of undermining the common culture (in addition to not being patriotic!) that was allegedly needed to have a cohesive, strong empire. And Christians preached and taught against the immorality, wickedness and depravity of the people, the rulers and the times. They preached against the rampant adultery, homosexuality, violence and child molestation. They preached against the wanton excesses of the upper classes (again, not a mark of contemporary evangelical Christianity, unless the upper classes in view are Hollywood, government bureaucrats and other liberal elites). And they preached against paganism, not only by the people but the official state religion (again, the evangelical Christian preacher who even speaks of the freemasonry and occult that was vital to this nation’s founding and has been influential in it ever since is rare).

Then, the persecution began as sporadic and localized, but climaxed in a brutal, sustained attempt to completely rid the Roman Empire of Christianity. And despite the estimated ten million Christians that were killed by the Roman Empire (something that you will never see mentioned in history books or depicted in movies, as they are more wont to depict Christians as murderous crusaders and the like) and the carnage of the past hundred years, that is only a shadow of the real bloodbath to come. You see, unlike Harold Camping, I do not adhere to a rapture belief. Instead, I believe the Bible when it says that when the anti-Christ comes, it will be given to him to make war against the saints, and to overcome them. I believe the Bible when it says that the time of tribulation, of great sorrows, will be of such severity that it will be cut short so that the saints, the elect, will survive it. And I believe that the saints that were mentioned in Revelation and Matthew 24 that will see that horrible time are not Jews, or those converted by Jews during the great tribulation, but Christians.

And that is what it is all about. That is why turning an obscure preacher with questionable doctrine into an international news story lasting several cycles was done. It is why Westboro Baptist Church, a cult that has existed for decades, is only now becoming international news. It is why Terry Jones, an obscure leader of a small congregation, became an international pariah for burning a Koran when not only Muslims but the United States military routinely burns Bibles!

It is why terrorists attacks committed by atheists like Timothy McVeigh and Eric Rudolph are attributed to Christians. It is why violence against abortion clinics and doctors is an issue oft raised against Christians despite the fact that less than 5 such incidents have occurred in over 20 years, and only 1 in the past 10. The Hutaree militia drew headlines and a massive sting operation from the federal government as a Christian terrorism threat to rival that posed by Al Qaeda, and it turned out to be just a bunch of guys spinning yarns over the Internet.  Yet, the Marxist “liberation theology” types, not a few of whom were trained Soviet infiltrators, fanned the flames for any number of bloody murderous third world Marxist coups with their organizing and “preaching”, and the truth about their activities – and the level of support that they received from their ideological and religious fellow travelers in the U.S. – has never been documented by the media, Hollywood or our schools. Neither has the true history of our own “civil rights movement” – how it duped the black church and many well meaning white Americans into supporting Marxist subversive tactics, and how that movement was also organized by and rife with Soviet agents and sympathizers – been told, and nor can you expect them to spill the beans on their own false prophets.

The agitation propaganda against Christians will continue in the future just as it did in the Roman Empire. Christians should be heedful of the times, which means that we must be aware of what is going on, aware of where it is headed, and aware of whose agenda it is serving. That is why Christians should end these “battles” over “being represented in Hollywood” and the “culture wars” and “religious right politics” (and religious left politics) in favor of opening our eyes to the true state of affairs. Instead, we should study our Bibles, study about the early church during its time of persecution before Christianity was co-opted by the Roman Empire so that by learning about the church’s past, we can learn about the future – our future. Of course, the Bible tells us that Jesus Christ will win in the end and vindicate and save His church. But make no mistake: just as Jesus Christ suffered Gethsemane and His passion before His resurrection and glorification, the church, being less than its Master Jesus Christ, must also suffer many things. Christians must be prepared so that we might stand during the time to come, and endure to the end. This is a battle that will be won not by guns, money or governments but by faith in the God who is fighting on our side and prevail.

It must be asked: which side are you on? The side of God, or of the wicked? Though Camping was wrong, his error only proved the Bible to be correct. The Bible makes it clear that the wicked perish and that Jesus Christ and those who believe in Him will triumph. If you do not believe in Jesus Christ, make no mistake, you will be counted among the wicked, because no matter how good you perceive yourself to be, before a holy and perfect God you are a sinner. I urge you, repent of your sins, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved.

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The Original Name Of The Muslim Moon God: NOT ALLAH!

Posted by Job on October 19, 2007

I am a huge supporter of Messianic (meaning COMPLETED) Jewish rabbi Moshe Laurie and his show, but I must admit that I have not been as motivated to watch it recently because Laurie has been devoting a lot of time to exploring the possibility that the 12th imam of Shi’ite Islam will be the anti-Christ. I really cannot get into that because of my belief that the anti-Christ will have to be an “all things to all people” sort in order to get the world to follow him, and as such his false prophet would likely be a New Age universalist sort.

But I came across something the other day that will make me give rabbi Laurie’s efforts more thought. The book Readings of the Ancient Near East (by Bill Arnold and Bryan Beyer, published by Baker Books) has starting on page 137 the war chronicles of king Tiglath-pileser I of Assyria. Of course, it begins with the usual statements of devotion to this pagan’s gods. Now this fellow’s primary god was Ashur, but I noticed one of the other false deities that he credited for his successful military exploits. Tiglath-pileser I referred to the deity as the wise one, saying that he was the lord of the lunar disk (the moon god) and his symbol was “the divine crescent.” Of course, Islam’s “Allah” has long been known to be the moon god worshiped by the Arab peoples of that region, and as such the crescent moon is their symbol. So, what name did Tiglath-pileser I call this deity, the same false deity as Mohammed’s Allah, in his royal inscriptions? SIN. I kid you not, page 137 of Readings of the Ancient Near East clearly identifies the name of the god of Islam as SIN.

Some background here. When Moses led the children of Israel out of Egypt, God told them not to follow after the worship or practices of the people in the area. Such practices were, of course, pagan. Israel began referring to the pagan practices that God commanded them against as SIN because it was shorthand for the moon worship that was dominant in the area. (Please recall, for instance, that Abraham’s family, from Haran, were moon – worshipers.) That was why the wilderness that the children of Israel spent 40 years wandering in was called the wilderness of Sin Exodus 16:1 (though wilderness of Zin was an alternate spelling)! And the mountain where the law was given? Mount Sinai! Note that there was no reference to God or Moses naming them as such. The wilderness and the mountain already had those names because the local moon worshipers, SIN worshipers, gave it that name, just as places where Baal worship took place were given such names by the pagans as Baalzephon, Baalpeor, Baalmeon, etc. So as one of the first commandments of God regarding their conduct was to refrain Israel from taking on the worship of the Sin cult, sin became shorthand for all evil behavior. (Some folks that are familiar with the scriptures in their original languages claim that the translators often used “sin” where “lawlessness” or similar would have been more appropriate.)

So going back to Moshe Laurie’s teachings that the anti – Christ will be the eschatological figure that the modern moon god worshipers of Shi’ite Islam are awaiting, we cannot ignore that one of the titles given for the anti – Christ in the Bible just happens to be “man of sin“(2 Thessalonians 2:3)! But wait, it does not end at Islam. Lots of other folks do too: wicca and other pagan movements, New Age, some strands of kabbalah, etc. But you know what else? MASONRY, especially the SHRINERS branch. (Hint: Mormonism was founded by the MASON Joseph Smith). Oh yes, did you know that masonry, while claiming to be a Christian fraternal organization, is actually universalistic, teaching that all religions are equal, see (Sort of sounds like Skulls and Bones George W. Bush proclaiming that all religions worship the same god recently, doesn’t it? Fascinating that he made that pronouncement while traveling in Muslim countries. It is also fascinating how many of our presidents have been Masons or members of its affiliated societies.)

So it looks like Moshe Laurie may be onto something. If he is, then this “something” is actually way broader and deeper than he realizes!

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Martin Luther King’s MORMON DOCTRINE!

Posted by Job on August 15, 2007

Motivated by this story, I already addressed evidence from King’s own writings that he was a Christian in Proof From His Own Writings That Martin Luther King Jr. Was NOT A Christian, but the weblog post Between Two Worlds: Martin Luther King where I found the online links to his papers this interesting nugget: “MLK accepted the deity of Jesus Christ, and the fact that Jesus Christ was divine, only in the sense that He was one with God in purpose.” That is EXACTLY what Mormons teach! See, Mormons deny Trinity, because they deny that Jesus Christ is deity. Rather than teaching that Jesus Christ is an uncreated pre – existing spirit, they teach that Jesus Christ was a being created by God, no different from angels or people, and that Jesus Christ earned His exceptional position through works (they also teach that Christ’s works surpassed those of God the Father, and when they say Father they mean LITERAL FATHER, because they teach that Jesus Christ, Satan, the angels, and all humans are the result of sexual activity between their god and his MULTIPLE wives in heaven, one of the reasons why murdering pedophile Joseph Smith needed 34 of them himself, despite the fact that a number of them were still married to other men; Mormons also agree with Dan Brown of “The Da Vinci Code” in teaching that Jesus Christ was married; according to their theology he would have had to have been in order to achieve his exalted position). So, since Mormons reject the notion of God in Three Persons, how, then can they claim to believe in Trinity? Simple: BY CLAIMING THAT JESUS CHRIST WAS ONE WITH THE FATHER IN PURPOSE!

And folks say that evil spirits aren’t real? These lying spirits and their false doctrines, well they do get around don’t they? And they all pretty much agree in their lies … getting people to deny God’s Tri – Unity and the deity and resurrection of Jesus Christ. They even use the same parsing, dissembling, dishonest arguments, and justifications for their lies. This heresy of King (who rejected the true Christianity of his father) after that of Ebionitism. You can look up that heresy plus some others here: When you realize the number of ancient heresies and false religions that went into Mormonism, it is staggering, evidence that a multitude of evil spirits went into Joseph Smith and all who follow after him. But what is even more staggering is why so few people are willing to publicly discuss that Martin Luther King, Jr. was a heretic and an apostate, yet he managed to found the Southern CHRISTIAN Leadership Conference and pastor a church. The people who knew about this fellow’s belief but allowed him to rise through the ranks of the Christian field without opposing him, do not think that they will not be held accountable. It would be interesting to interview the people who spent a great deal of time with King professionally as well as was in his church and heard him preach if THEY knew that King did not believe in the resurrection. If he did not, then what did this fellow preach about at church? What did his Christmas, Easter, and Pentecost sermons consist of? It is astounding that hard questions like these are never asked of our religious leaders, or even of their laypeople.  

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Proof From His Own Writings That Martin Luther King Jr. Was NOT A Christian

Posted by Job on August 15, 2007

Update: Apparently there has not been a total media blackout on this issue.

Some people are angry that the Martin Luther King Jr. statue that will be placed on our mall in Washington DC is going to be made by a Chinese artist. What should be a bigger concern is the fact that King, Jr. is considered the most prominent Christian figure in American history despite not believing in the virgin birth, deity, or resurrection of Jesus Christ, and that the people responsible for exposing this fact: the media, our schools and churches, etc. are hiding it from you! And you folks on the Christian right: Reagan gave this man a federal holiday why? And more and more Christian preachers are celebrating this man, his beliefs, and his legacy why? It isn’t as if there weren’t PLENTY of black civil rights leaders that were actually Christian to identify and honor. It is no wonder that the media and the international community rejected black Christian leaders and instead embraced both this fellow and the Muslim Malcolm X. To the people wondering why no movie on Dr. King’s life has been made: well anyone who does so would HAVE to deal with the fact that KING WAS NOT A CHRISTIAN. The links below say it all. contains King’s own papers on the subject: and and and in an interview with NBC:

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Jericho Presidents’ Meeting Signals Hope for Palestine-Israel Deal

Posted by Job on August 13, 2007

My note: hope for everyone that has completely rejected Bible prophecy, that is. And please note that this “article”, produced by British Anglicans’ “news” site, places all of the onus for this peace that will never come until Jesus Christ comes back on Israel and none on the Palestinian government. See the original link.

Amid tight security, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert today met Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas on Palestinian soil – in a joint move which offers fresh hope to a peace process long submerged in division and violence (my note: make that ALWAYS submerged in division and violence … but then again that would be admitting that there never has been a peace process, which removes their opportunity to blame the Israeli government for all of the carnage). Olmert told Abbas that he hopes that negotiations can be launched “soon” on establishing a Palestinian state, his clearest promise yet to tackle a final peace deal. Observers noted that the style and architecture of the three-hour session was at least as important as the content.

Half of the time was devoted to private face-to-face conversation in the absence of advisers. This would have been unthinkable even a few months ago. Olmert became the first Israeli leader to visit a Palestinian town after seven years of bloody fighting. Israeli and Palestinian security forces worked together to protect him, blocking all access to the five-star hotel in Jericho.

President Mahmoud Abbas’s own authority will have been enhanced by hosting Olmert, symbolically levelling the uneven relationship of occupier and occupied. But his relations with the Israeli leader will also arouse suspicion and opposition in large sections of the Palestinian community. And in spite of the good will evidenced by the meeting, the two sides have very different ideas about what should happen next. (Of course, they will not state that the “different ideas” are the Palestinians’ wanting to destroy Israel – whether now or later – and the Israelies KINDA SORTA wanting to retain their land, nation, culture, religion, etc.)

The Palestinians say that after years of delay, it is now time to start talking about the terms of Palestinian statehood, including final borders, the removal of Israeli settlements and how to achieve a fair sharing of Jerusalem. Israel wants to move ahead more slowly, in part because previous talks in 2000 collapsed over the so-called core issues and because Olmert may not be strong enough politically to make far-reaching concessions.

The United States, traditionally pro-Israeli, has been urging both sides to make progress, ahead of a Middle East peace conference in the US due in November 2007. Both Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and President George W. Bush have invested their reputations on achieving a deal, particularly in the light of the disastrous impact of the Iraq invasion and occupation in the region and worldwide.

President Olmert is in theory committed eager to backing the moderate President Abbas against the militant Hamas movement which seized Gaza by force in June 2007 and inflicted great damage on Abbas’s Fateh party. But there is also a sense in which hardliners on both sides need each other to avoid what they will regard as unacceptable compromises, and Olmert gave out a decidedly mixed message today – saying that core issues will be addressed, but not yet.

“I came here in order to discuss with you the fundamental issues outstanding between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, hoping that this will lead us soon into negotiations about the creation of a Palestinian state,” Olmert declared, framed by the Israeli and Palestinian flags in Jericho. Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said the two leaders agreed to hold more talks until the fall, but made no major announcement. Abbas “did not come to the meeting with a magic wand, and neither did Mr Olmert,” he commented. In Gaza, Hamas dismissed the meeting as useless. Ismail Haniyeh, fired by Abbas as prime minister after the Gaza takeover, said experience has shown that peace talks bring no benefits. The weakness of the US strategy is that it appears committed to moving ahead without any Hamas involvement, in spite of the verdict of democratic elections that put it into power in the Palestinian Authority.

President Abbas and Olmert also talked about improving the dismal daily life of Palestinians in the West Bank. This includes removing some of the Israeli checkpoints that were set up after the outbreak of the second Palestinian uprising in 2000. The checkpoints are the main tool of Israeli control in the West Bank, disrupting trade and often causing long delays for Palestinian motorists. Erekat said Israel’s Defence Ministry is to present a plan next week on easing travel restrictions. An attempt will be made to restore the situation to what it was before the outbreak of the uprising (my note: not terrorism, violence, or rioting, but “uprising”, which indicates JUSTIFIED political resistance), including renewing Palestinian control over West Bank towns and cities. However, Israel’s military has been slow to remove checkpoints, citing concerns that President Abbas’ forces are still too weak to rein in militants and keep them from attacking Israel (my note: so why should Israel negotiate peace with a government that cannot – or will not – honor the terms of the agreement? It is obvious that the Christian left and other such people are not interested in peace or the security of Israel; they are only interested in getting a peace deal signed and creating a Palestinian state to suit their own ideological purposes. Once the peace deal is signed, Palestinian statehood is achieved, the Palestinians attack Israel, and full scale war breaks out, these same people will merely invent another way to blame Israel for the violence and demand that they refrain from defending themselves.)

Significantly, the famous walls of Jericho remained firmly in place after the historic meeting (my note: see the sarcastic Israel bashing, as well as bashing fundamentalists who say that it is sinful for Israel to give their land away), and all sides admitted that it is too early to blow and trumpets. Technorati:        

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Once Saved Always Saved: Is This How The Holy Spirit Works?

Posted by Job on July 19, 2007

Well, for this I have to credit (or blame) the most excellent brother Laz, even if he didn’t do it on purpose! Motivated by a post asserting the opposite by Independent Conservative, I posted by beliefs Christians: Once Saved Always Saved? I Say Not So! to which Laz made this reply during which he referenced the argument of a oneness pentecostal. Perhaps unknown to Laz, the three issues that I am extremely emotional about in no particular order are 1) abortion, 2) anti – Trinitarians, and 3) those who mislead Christians into thinking that they are old covenant Israel (which is done not only explicitly with false Christian teaching but also implicitly through religious right politics). I also somehow totally misunderstood Laz’s post (though I read it several times!) into thinking that he was, while debating the opposite point, citing views that were similar to mine expressed by an anti – Trinitarian in the course of making his argument. Result: I made this comment to the effect of “I will become a five point Calvinist before I ever side with a oneness heretic over a brother in Christ.” Laz quickly corrected my error, but it was too late: I had already said (or written) it, and could not take it back! (Which is precisely why the Bible calls speaking in haste or out of emotion a sin.) So, I was stuck thinking about the issue all day long, and the excellent replies that I received from Steven, Marge, Marcus, Laz, Independent Conservative, etc. weren’t helping.

Now lately I have been giving into the temptation of listening to talk radio even though it is not good for a person with a temperament such as mine, and as it happens they are talking about the Michael Vick case ad nauseum. I stopped being a fan of Michael Vick when he gave a woman herpes, I was so frustrated with the pro – abortion PETA crowd who love dogs more than people on the radio (including this ESPN radio host who claims that “we should have EVOLVED to the point where we no longer enjoy dogfighting”) that I wasn’t exactly the peacemaker at work that God called me to be the rest of my workday! So later when I again turned on talk radio while driving home and heard more Michael Vick news, a little whisper tells me “Now you know that you caused all sorts of trouble that your coworkers didn’t need today because you let something that you shouldn’t have been listening to anyway get you angry. The Bob George Show is on right now on 1010 AM, turn to that.” (Bob George is great Christian teacher, his website is

I do so, and this sweet old lady who has been ATTENDING CHURCH ALL OF HER LONG LIFE called in because she was vexed by the whole salvation thing. The churches that she had been attending, apparently, had neglected to tell her the meaning of what Jesus Christ did for her on the cross, and as a result she had spent her entire life trying to work her way out of the lake of fire. Apparently, she had made several such calls in a short period of time on this topic, because the hosts of this nationwide live show knew her and put her right on. So the host explained (and I could tell that it wasn’t the first time) how once you accept Christ, God forgives all of your past, present, and future sins. I do not remember all of her questions or his responses, but he broke it down for her. I do think I remember this exchange when the woman, filled with emotion, “But what if I sin and can’t stop sinning? How I handle that, and what does God do or feel about that?” If I recall, something to the effect was “Well you can either go out and find yourself a calf or lamb to go sacrifice, or you can start trusting God for your salvation.”

The notion of a sweet little old lady that had been attending church all of her life wracked with fear and guilt over sin was extremely disturbing to me. And yes, I was also mindful of my own sin just a few short hours earlier of causing strife and confusion on my job. And on top of all that, I was still thinking of my hasty reply to Laz earlier, what it meant in general intellectual terms, what it meant to my own recent sin, and what it meant to this terrified old lady in emotional turmoil on the phone. So while I had always given agreement by virtue of “intellectual assent” to “God forgives all of your past, present, and future sins upon salvation”, I had never stopped to think what that ACTUALLY MEANS. That is, until now.

Well, the good news is that the sweet little old lady FINALLY understood and believed and began to trust Jesus Christ and not dead works of religion or her church, pastor, or doctrine for her salvation that day. Now I fully expect this woman to be attacked by Satan, so I must remember to pray for her though I know not her name or anything else about her. But I now had something to think about regarding my “you can’t lose your salvation but you can throw it away” personal doctrine. If all of your past, present, and FUTURE sins are forgiven when God saves you, then the present or future sin that would cause you to allegedly “throw your salvation away” is already forgiven! And if your sin is already forgiven even before you commit it? How can it possibly throw your salvation away? The answer is simple: it cannot. It is forever dealt with, done, cast away, removed, forgotten, as far from you as the east is from the west. You cannot undo what God has done. What God does is not dependent on man. God’s operation is not a function of man. And it cannot be that God has forgiven your past and present sins but not your future ones, because that does not fit my own personal concept of God: an eternal spirit that exists outside of time. Since God exists outside of time, He does not have to wait for you to commit some future sin to forgive it. He does not need one procedure for your past sin, this thing for your present sin, and a separate process for your future sin: existing timelessly in eternity has its advantages! Thus, I repeat, you cannot “throw away your salvation” with an action or even a series of actions that God has already forgiven you for!

So then, it is true. I can no longer deny it. Once saved always saved. This is going to permanently alter how I view Christianity and in a very significant fashion, including totally changing my approach to reading scripture.

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Does Jeremiah 32:38-40 Speak Of Free Will? I Say Not

Posted by Job on July 16, 2007

Was elated when in this book I happened to be reading I saw them assert Jeremiah 32:38-40 as evidence of free will in some fashion. But after reading the scripture, it is actually the opposite. It was a prophecy that under the new covenant, the Holy Spirit would seal one who is saved. Jeremiah 32:38-40 states “And they shall be my people, and I will be their God: And I will give them one heart, and one way, that they may fear me for ever, for the good of them, and of their children after them: And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me.

“And I will give them one heart” = indwelling Holy Spirit. “that they may fear me for ever” and “but I will put my fear in their hearts” = law written in your heart, Holy Spirit will grieve and vex you and not allow you to continue in sin. “that they shall not depart from me” = the Holy Spirit will seal you, not allow you to fall or any man or spirit to take you out of God’s Hand.

Now the context that the theologian gave this scripture vis a vis free will was that perhaps God allowed free will to exist PRIOR to this, but now it has been taken away. I disagree. It speaks not of allowing people to choose or reject God at any point, but rather giving people under the new covenant supernatural assistance to prevent them from falling into sin and from continually sinning. So, my search for scriptures that bear evidence of free will continues.

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Christians: Once Saved Always Saved? I Say Not So!

Posted by Job on July 16, 2007

They say that if you can lose your salvation then Jesus Christ died in vain. God forbid that Christ’s death would be in vain. However, it is my contention that while you cannot lose your salvation, you can throw it away. Otherwise, why would the terms “heretic”, “backslider”, and “apostate” exist? Those do not apply to unbelievers, including pretend Christians that were never truly saved, but instead to those that have abandoned the faith. For scriptural evidence of this, first reference the warnings of Jesus Christ to the churches in Revelation 2 and 3. Second, consider Paul’s warnings in Galatians for the church not to be deceived by false doctrines that cause them to deny that they were saved by faith. Third, and most explicitly, consider I Corinthians 5:1 – 5, where Paul speaks of one that they delivered unto Satan for the destruction of his flesh so that his soul would be spared on the day of judgment, meaning that his life would be prematurely ended before he became reprobate due to his sin. “It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father’s wife. And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.”

Speaking of reprobation, consider the popularity of the prosperity/Word of Faith doctrines that are drawing so many Christians from other denominations and movements with their promises and claims of mighty miracles and works. While a lot of that is Christians leaving dead and liberal Christianity seeking some sort of fundamentalism, those that are merely seeking things for themselves or who with their fascination with the minors give up the majors should heed what 1 Timothy 6:1-10 says of those who preach that godliness is gain (meaning that the gospel can be used to gain wealth, or that wealth is a sign of one’s righteousness and standing with God): they will be delivered unto reprobation. One can presume that the Christian who follows the reprobate preacher will find himself also reprobate in short order. Further, consider what Revelation 22:19 says about false prophets and preachers that deny the Truth of the Word of God: “And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” That false preachers and those who follow them are delivered unto such a state by God to me indicates that they were not in that state initially, but were allowed to become so because of their blaspheming against the true gospel and deceiving people with false doctrines.

Christians must endure and overcome to receive their reward. Matthew 10:22 – “And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.” It is a consistent theme in scripture that the Kingdom of Heaven is for those believers that overcome and endure to the end. That instruction is given to all seven churches in Revelation 2 and 3. Consider the stark contrast of the Smyrna church of which Jesus Christ stated no fault and the Laodicean church of which He stated no good. Now I can see where one might try to claim that the Laodiceans were not really saved and the overcoming and enduring to the end is in reference to getting actually saved, but how can that possibly be directed towards the Smyrna church? Yet Jesus Christ had to tell the Smyrna church to be faithful unto death to get their crown of life (Revelation 2:10). The most explicit example: Revelation 2:26, the words of Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior Himself: “And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations.

So, fellow believer, it is my contention that the concept that one can fall from the grace of God is given explicitly and implicitly throughout scripture. I would propose that King Saul was the first example of one who rejected the grace of God with his own persistent disobedience with Demas who forsook Paul (2 Timothy 4:10) perhaps being the last (it also appears that Hymenaeus and Alexander were delivered unto Satan (1 Timothy 1:20) by Paul to prevent them from going as far as Demas did).

Perhaps my main reason for believing that one can renounce the gift of salvation with persistent sin: my conviction that God is not mocked (Galatians 6:7). And what does Romans 6 mean after all? I know that it contains these passages: Romans 6:1-2aWhat shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid” and Romans 6:23: “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” I know that there are many verses in Romans 6 that says that the person that continues in sin was never saved to begin with. Fine, but what of 1 John 1:8-10? “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and His Word is not in us.” I say to the Christian that 1 John 1:8-10 should give you reassurance, but Romans 6:23 should keep you vigilant. In other words, the perfect balance to be found in God’s Word.

Now I realize that: “Once saved always saved” is classic Protestant doctrine, so I welcome all comments from those with opposing viewpoints. I particularly wish to hear alternate interpretations of the “deliver one unto Satan” references. Another thing: please thoughtfully consider this section on apostasy from Biblegateway:

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Excellent Post On Predestination From A Free Will Christian

Posted by Job on July 15, 2007

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Acts 13:48 – Free Will Versus Election And Predestination

Posted by Job on July 13, 2007

Acts 13:48 – And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. Well, that is rather explicit, especially when you consider its context, because this verse concludes a “salvation narrative”, the prior verses of which Paul was preaching the gospel, Acts 13:16-49Then Paul stood up, and beckoning with his hand said, Men of Israel, and ye that fear God, give audience. The God of this people of Israel chose our fathers, and exalted the people when they dwelt as strangers in the land of Egypt, and with an high arm brought he them out of it. And about the time of forty years suffered he their manners in the wilderness. And when he had destroyed seven nations in the land of Chanaan, he divided their land to them by lot. And after that he gave unto them judges about the space of four hundred and fifty years, until Samuel the prophet. And afterward they desired a king: and God gave unto them Saul the son of Cis, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, by the space of forty years. And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave their testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will. Of this man’s seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus: When John had first preached before his coming the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel. And as John fulfilled his course, he said, Whom think ye that I am? I am not he. But, behold, there cometh one after me, whose shoes of his feet I am not worthy to loose. Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent. For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.  And though they found no cause of death in him, yet desired they Pilate that he should be slain. And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre. But God raised him from the dead: And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people. And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers, God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee. And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David. Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption: But he, whom God raised again, saw no corruption. Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins: And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. Beware therefore, lest that come upon you, which is spoken of in the prophets; Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you. And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath. Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God. But when the Jews saw the multitudes, they were filled with envy, and spake against those things which were spoken by Paul, contradicting and blaspheming. Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles. For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth. And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. And the word of the Lord was published throughout all the region.”

Kind of hard for this free will Christian to get around that one, isn’t it? Oh well. I will try. The next time I can find a Bible verse to support it.

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Peace Prize Winner Bishop Desmond Tutu Advocates Media Censorship On Behalf Of Muslim Terrorists

Posted by Job on June 28, 2007

Jews frequently call Bishop Tutu a vehement foe of Israel. I ignore such talk, because in doing so they generally leave out the inconvenient fact that Israel supported the South Africa apartheid regime until the very end, even when the rest of the world had turned their backs on them, just might have something to do with it. Now while Tutu and Mandela rightfully opposed our president’s skull and crossbones adventure in Iraq, it was almost certainly for the wrong reason. Statements like this (see cut and paste below) make me more convinced that anyone that the “international community highly respects”  should have their comments and actions carefully weighed and measured against the Bible by Christians. Please recall, for instance, how the American equivalent of Desmond Tutu, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. popularized syncretism (mixing Christianity with other religions or belief systems) in American religious life by mixing Christianity with Mohandas (Mahatma) Ghandi’s jainism, and more still solidified the notion that Christianity can be (or should be) used to seek earthly ends rather than a heavenly reward. (Do I have a problem with “nonviolent social change”? Well, not so much with the idea of God calling us to be nonviolent, but rather our seeking change through subversive  and aggressive political pressure movements. Please recall that Jesus Christ and his disciples and apostles specifically abstained from political activism, which is a major problem with the “Bible prophecy as resistance literature” eschatological interpretations.)

And as a result, it is now more tolerable to criticize God in this country (and in most others) than King! So, if you don’t believe that “the international community” isn’t co – opting these preachers to suit their own agenda, then you need to look a little more clearly, not only at the preachers on the religious left, but right wing ones like T.D. Jakes and Rick Warren (both of whom have endorsed syncretism themselves: see HERETIC TD JAKES ENDORSES YOGA AND CONTEMPLATIVE PRAYER! and  

Archbishop Desmond Tutu recently called on the media to be more careful when choosing words for religious conflict reports. Archbishop Tutu, a South African who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1984, said on Wednesday that broad understanding of trouble spots was often complicated by the language used to describe the activities of people or religions involved in them. Speaking at a Reuters Newsmaker event in London, Tutu addressed journalists in the audience, calling for tolerance and understanding of religions. “I would hope that you in the media would be passionate about letting people judge for themselves, that you would be careful about some of the language that you do actually use,” he said. “‘Muslim terrorism’ – have you ever read anywhere ‘Christian terrorism’? – as if Islam propagates violence, but you have never spoken about what happened in Northern Ireland as Christian terrorism,” he said. “Fundamentally there is no faith that I know that propagates violence that says it’s a good thing to oppress anybody.” Tutu said he recognised the media could be a force for good but that it had responsibilities. “You have a very powerful media. I know because you helped us very much in our struggle to tell our story. You did it for us and we benefited enormously.”

However, Archbishop Tutu added that understanding different religions required peoples of all faiths to understand different perspectives. “We Christians ought to get off our high horse and learn to be a great deal more humble, when you look at our history, the bloody things that we did in the name of religion,” he said. The gathering also marked the launch of the Tutu Foundation UK, an organisation intended to bring the experience of truth and reconciliation in South Africa to inner city communities in Britain. The foundation will aim to give young people an increased understanding of people from other cultures, working in partnership with bodies such as the YMCA, the Prince’s Trust and Henley Management College. Its work is also intended to reach out to people who, through their work, find themselves in a responsible position where they can help others and affect their quality of life. Original link: here

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Christian Values Do Not Exist Part II: The Motivation For Believing A Lie

Posted by Job on June 27, 2007

Please see part I, Christian Values Do Not Exist, before you read this if you have not already.

The amazing part is that professed Christians condemn themselves with their own words concerning the “Christian values” lie. How? They freely admit that “one does not have to be a Christian in order to share, appreciate, respect, and uphold Christian values.” If so, how can it be of God, and God be in it? These people need to read the Gospel of John again; it tells us that things that come from God and will be respected by God on judgment day will be misunderstood, hated, rejected, and warred against by the world. God and the things of Him are the light, the world is darkness, and the darkness does not comprehend the light. So, people that regard “Christian values” are walking after darkness and not after light. Example: the Washington Post article linked to in this post The New Missionary Field: “State Church” Europe Where Christianity Is Practically Dead speaks of how Christians fought to preserve the position of a pastor that acknowledged being an atheist because “one does not have to believe in God to teach Christian values.” A more salient example: many people, including Christians, convert to Mormonism, Islam, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Buddhism, Hinduism, and Jesus Only oneness pentecostalism because of the strong piety and oustanding values emphasized by their systems of belief and culture. I know that I mention Mitt Romney more than I should in this weblog, but the media and political analysts speak of how well the fellow is doing very well in heavily Christian areas because he showcases his own history of hard work and achievement, personal integrity, and great family. Why? Because so many people have bought into the “Christian values” lie.

The true underlying motivation here is NATIONALISM. We want to love not only our country, but the notions of western culture on which our nation is based. Since we cannot go around kicking everyone that refuses to convert to Christianity out of our country (which is something that God did not even command the Jews to do; “strangers” were allowed to dwell in Israel under certain conditions), we have to create something else that we can all share for the purpose of having national unity along some set of lines that we can all feel good about. Since so many of these people are Christian, they believe the deception that this set of social, cultural, traditional, and political beliefs have anything to do with true Christianity. (I will grant you that some of these beliefs may well be religious, but none of them are spiritual).

Why? Because they want to. It makes them feel good about themselves. It is … man – pleasing! It is an easy way for man to become convinced of the notion that there is some instrinsic good within himself, and thereby divert to himself the praise and honor and glory that belongs only to God. And such people desire this so strongly, to receive the praise and declarations of being just and righteous that only God deserves, that they are willing to give people that hate and reject Jesus Christ a claim to it; to utterly defile it just so they can keep enough of it to glorify themselves! The very concept of “Christian values” is nothing more than the third thing that satan tempted Eve with in the Garden of Eden regarding the tree of knowledge of good and evil (possible only because satan used what was present in Eve already): the pride of life, the desire to be or to make ourselves into something that we are not. And it plays upon the lust of the eyes, which is coveting, a desire to have something that is not ours. Well, people who follow after the notion of Christian values desire to consider themselves inherently good (based on where they were born; being born in America or another western or “Christian” nation and “in a Christian home” makes you inherently better than being born elsewhere … you even have strands of hyper – Calvinism that claims that God places those that He has predestined and elected to salvation in Christian nations and homes for that purpose, and for that reason Christians should not bother with third world missionary activity; J. R. Ryland is reputed to have told the great missionary William Carey “young man sit down … when it pleases God to convert the heathen He will do it without your aid or mine”) and of course desire to be viewed as being virtuous and great – part of a great society of people – based on it.

Haven’t you wondered why certain Christians will get as angry – or angrier – at attacks on their country or their leaders as they would if you attacked their Jesus Christ? The reason is simple: if you attack Jesus Christ, you attack Jesus Christ. But if you attack their country or its leaders, you attack THEM, because you are denigrating their own image of virtue that comes from being associated with a “Christian nation and culture.” It is really  self – idolatry, self – worship. People who sell themselves out to and give themselves over to this sort of thing will do anything to preserve it! Case in point: the testimony of the South Africa Truth and Reconciliation Commission. When the leaders of the apartheid regime that committed such grotesque crimes against innocent people were asked what motivated their evil, their answer was “fear of communism.” While communism is certainly evil and should be in all cases opposed, what they really feared losing was their precious nation and self – concept of virtue and worth based on it! Indeed, cannot you see the anti – Christ, the beast of Revelation, the son of perdition, the man of sin, building an entire system based on these beliefs and exploiting it?

And I have to tell you: what really seems like a taste of this to me is this “Left Behind” false doctrine, especially that in the book “The Remnant” and in the video game “Left Behind: Eternal Forces.” You know, the “convert or kill” thing. “The enemy” are the typical bugbears of the right wing: the United Nations, urban criminals, and similar. SoldierServant does a great job of pointing this out in these three posts: Should Christians Commit Murder For “The Cause”?, How Can We Judge If Christianity Is Still True?, and False Doctrine In “Left Behind”: The Remnant Teaches Against the Doctrine of the God-Sent Strong Delusion. I will not go so far as some in saying that dispensationalism is the problem in and of itself, but clearly their “convert or kill” notion is not justified anywhere in scripture (which instead speaks of fleeing Matthew 24:15-21 or salvation through martyrdom Revelation 20:4). And this goes back to the Iraq venture. We probably will never know what Bush’s motivation for invading Iraq was. I say that it is for the same reason that he supports illegal immigration, supply side economics, corporate welfare, abortion, and homosexual rights (see SoldierServant‘s President Bush — Bad Fruits versus Good Fruits: merely to increase the amount of violence, fear, chaos, warfare, disease, and economic uncertainty in the world; a precondition for the anti – Christ to take power). But I am certain the reason why so many good Christians supported Bush in the Iraq War – and still do – is because (just like the South African whites) they have been deceived into thinking that Muslim terror threatens their “Christian nation”, and therefore their notions of being intrinsically good and being worthy of being worshipped and praised by virtue of their birthright and citizenship will go with it.

Consider this: Jerry Falwell said on CNN that he was willing to sacrifice biblical positions on abortion and gay marriage in order to support a President that was strong on national security because the key to defending our Christian values is defending America, and if America falls to Islam our Christian nation goes with it. For that reason, he stated that he would be willing to vote for an atheist if he was the best at defending our nation. What happened to just trusting God that He would defend our nation, or that no matter what happens God’s Will shall be done? There is no place in that in the heart of one who follows after Christian values, because the one who sells out to those wants not to glorify God, but rather to hold onto that which he uses to glorify himself.

And through religious right politics, many Christians are trying to use the power of the state to impose upon an unwilling public a system of beliefs that will not even save them because promoting such values, values which they themselves admit are not spiritual because non – Christians can have them, exalts themselves. Can you imagine what such people will do when their strong delusions of self – righteousness through their culture and national identity are taken away from them? Please recall, for a second, that Hitler used notions of goodness inherent in the Weimar Republic (Germany) by virtue of their birth, ethnicity, culture, state, etc. preached in the state churches to sell his Nazi program. Also realize that John Hagee is pushing George W. Bush to bomb Iran to speed up the great tribulation because he cannot bear to see Hillary Clinton get elected in 2008 (which would represent the final stake through the heart of the religious right movement), and millions of “Christian Zionists” are ignoring all of the Bible prophecies that have to be fulfilled (there is no temple in Israel, there are no sacrifices, the gospel has not been preached to all the Gentiles) before Jesus Christ can return according even to their own  dispensational doctrines!  This notion of worshipping man through worldly things like values rather than worshipping God in spirit and in truth is very dangerous. It has caused great evil throughout history, and will cause the greatest of sorrows in the time to come. I urgently entreat all of those who wish for heaven to be your reward to turn aside from this abomination immediately and begin instead to trust God alone for your deliverance and your salvation.

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Why God Is Not Unfair: I No Longer Regard Calvinism To Be False Doctrine

Posted by Job on June 22, 2007

Perhaps “errant theology” is better terminology than “false doctrine”, and I am specifically talking about partial atonement, election, predestination, and irresistible grace. Now I should point out that I never did regard Calvinism as apostasy or heresy, an outright rejection of clear Biblical truth that denies the nature of God and will condemn its adherents to an eternity to the lake of fire. I merely viewed Calvinists as “honestly mistaken” on a matter that had nothing to do with an individual’s salvation. I did not view it as particularly helpful, of course, for I attributed such attitudes as “Young man, sit down; when God pleases to convert the heathen, he will do it without your aid and mine” (as J. R. Ryland is alleged to have said to prominent missionary William Carey) to it. But after reading William Metzger’s book Tell The Truth: The Whole Gospel To The Whole Person by Whole People, I feel differently. In it, Metzger makes a case for predestination and election that I only cannot biblically oppose. I will not use his illustrative examples (which my Arminian mind found problematic) but instead use his principles to create my own (which probably is even more problematic, but it is mine which means I like it better, so there). Let us say that you decide to bake a batch of cookies; two dozen, three dozen, three thousand, it doesn’t matter. Say that for whatever reason and through no fault of your own, the cookies turn out bad. Maybe you were supplied with faulty ingredients, maybe the thermostat on your oven was broken, perhaps the recipe that you were given had errors, or perhaps that particular type of cookie was inherently problematic for whatever reason (i.e. the mixture of ingredients caused a chemical reaction that produced undesired effects). Now, as the sole person who acquired the ingredients for the cookies, the sole person that mixed the ingredients and prepared the dough, the sole owner of the materials used to prepare and cook the dough, the stove that the dough was cooked in, the electricity that powered the stove, and the utensils, dishes, etc. one can only come to one conclusion: THEY ARE YOUR COOKIES AND YOUR COOKIES ALONE! No one else has any claim to them. No one else has any right to tell you what to do with them. Any decision concerning their fate would not be a matter for anyone or thing to charge you with being immoral in any way. (Of course both socialists on the left and pharisee religionists on the right would disagree and try and bring charges and judgments against you in an attempt to try to usurp control over your property and behavior to suit their own ends, but they’d be wrong.) And you know what? The same would have been true even had all the cookies turned out perfectly fine! As sole creator and owner of the cookies, you would have the sole right to determine their fate, whatever that fate may be, and no one would have anything to say about it. It is true that as the One True God there actually IS no one capable of saying anything about it, but that isn’t the point. The point is that the very act of charging someone with immorality in their treatment of their own property is itself immoral! (Now you see why socialists so hate the concept of private property, and why pharisee religionists only like private property so long as they have the right to tell you what to do with it.)

But as it is, you, the baker, is in possession of all of these undesirable cookies. The logical, natural thing? Discard them all. Throw them out with the trash, the garbage that you burn every week. And why not? That is, after all, what they are: trash. Useless, unfit for any purpose, and suitable only for destruction. You can pretend otherwise if you like, but it is folly. Especially if you are someone who has ever tried his hand at baking! But let us say that for reasons that matter only to you and to suit a purpose that is yours alone, you decide to keep some of the cookies. Maybe you just want to taste them to see JUST HOW BAD they are. (Or maybe you think that if you had your Son scrape the burnt bottoms and edges off and put a little icing on them, eating a few of them wouldn’t be quite so bad after your Son obeyed you and REDEEMED a few of them.) How many? It is up to you. Which ones? It is up to you. According to what criteria? It is up to you. It could be the biggest cookies or the smallest, the ones on the edge of the pan or the ones in the center, the most burnt or the least, they could be numerically selected according to a Fourier series algorithm (that is the best that I could come up with for the role of the Holy Spirit in all this, I am not a theologian so give me a break, ok?), etc. Do the cookies have any say in who gets spared? Of course not. Do the cookies that are spared play any role in the process by which they are spared? A ridiculous notion! And does either batch of cookies, those spares and those not, have anything to say against the baker over the cookies that get discarded? The most absurd notion of all. What are a bunch of rotten spoiled cookies going to say? Even if they did say anything, so what? They’re GARBAGE! Who is going to listen to or pay heed to the opinions of GARBAGE? Sure, they can complain all they want … on their way to the incinerator, and while they are burning in it for that matter. But it isn’t going to do any good, and neither the baker (or the busboys that the baker tells to cast the marred cookies into the incinerator) are going to pay it any mind. As for the cookies that are spared despite their marred condition; saved despite having the exact same chemical composition using the exact same recipe and being mixed in the same bowl and cooked in the same bowl as the cookies that were destroyed? They will be too busy being glad that they are the ones not in the incinerator and thanking the baker for it! The point: God is sovereign. He makes the rules. He is the boss. He answers to no one. He does as He sees fit. And rather than being evil for destroying some or most of the bad cookies, He is actually GOOD for saving ANY of the bad cookies at all!

Now that, as I understand it, is atonement, election, predestination, and irresistible grace. And you know what? It is unassailable. It is completely Biblical, does not transgress any honest system of laws, morals, logic, reason, philosophy, etc. I just happen to disagree. Why? Because that is not the picture that I see when I read the Bible. But I now see how an honest, rigorous, complete, contextual reading of scripture alone (sola scriptura!) produced this doctrinal system. So, I will file Calvinism in the “honest disagreement among believers category” and not deal with the doctrinal system itself negative terms anymore.

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