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Is The Rider On The White Horse Of Revelation 6:2 Christ Or Anti-Christ?

Posted by Job on March 9, 2011

Revelation 6:1-2 reads “And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.”

The predominant view in modern western fundamentalist and evangelical Christianity is that the rider of the white horse is the anti-Christ. This was my view until very recently, when I read the John Bunyan allegory “Holy War“, which altered, or should I say enhanced, my view of Jesus Christ (more on that later), just as did reading “Pilgrim’s Progress Part 1” changed my view of Christian living and Part II changed my view of the pastorate and of the church.

Allow me to say that this article provides a good reason why the rider on the white horse cannot be the anti-Christ, which is that the four horsemen are released this eschatological figure is not released until the fifth trumpet. The trumpets do not occur until the seventh seal, and the white horse is released by the first seal. So, the white horse comes at or near the beginning of the events of Revelation (presuming a linear timeline with a literal interpretation) while the anti-Christ comes well into those events. Some interpretations deal with this by claiming that the reference in Revelation 6:2 is the anti-Christ’s laying the groundwork, placing everything in order, for his full unveiling to the earth that is described later.

Well, further arguments against the rider being the anti-Christ are given in this article. It deals with how those who propose that the rider is the anti-Christ deal with the fact that white is always used to represent Godly virtue by making the statement that the anti-Christ comes in this manner to deceive people into thinking that he is Jesus Christ. However, this interpretation requires starting with the idea that the rider on the white horse is the anti-Christ, and then making everything else fit, something often called thesis-driven analysis and also called eisegesis. If your starting point was neutral concerning the identity of this character, then his being on a white horse would immediately disqualify your  associating him with the anti-Christ. But if your starting point was his being the anti-Christ, that is when you have to contrive an explanation for the horse being white, one that seems to violate all rules and standards for hermeneutics used for other passages. The question is: “Why is this done?”

It goes back to one’s view of Jesus Christ. The rider of the white horse is given a bow and he went forth to conquer, and conquer he did! Modern, humanistic, enlightenment thinking does not permit viewing Jesus Christ as the Conqueror. That is, at least not until the last day when Jesus Christ comes to judge the nations for their wickedness. That is the one time that the modern church with its man-centered mindset allows Jesus Christ, who as God is the Creator, Owner and Sustainer of the Universe, to be viewed as a conquering ruler. (And for those who believe in the rapture, this happens when the church is already off the scene, and is spared having to deal with Jesus Christ in this role.) In the modern mindset, Jesus Christ can be viewed as the sacrificial lamb, advisor, “co-pilot”, best friend, psychiatrist/psychologist, enabler, helper, moneychanger (prosperity doctrine), mystic/shaman, errand boy, and even romantic lover, but NOT as a conquerer. This stark, authoritarian, militaristic view runs counter to the modernistic Jeffersonian view that exalts such ideas as civil rights, human rights, democracy etc. above all, and needs a Jesus Christ that will bow and be conformed to it. Thus, Jesus Christ as conquerer cannot exist in the mind of the modernist/postmodernist Christian except for a single day when He is forced to execute that role with respect to the wicked. With the exception of that day, Jesus Christ remains in a construct that the modern mind finds acceptable. And according to that construct, where conquest to set up authoritarian rule is undemocratic is evil, this HAS to be the anti-Christ!

It cannot be Jesus Christ according to this mindset, because this mindset makes Jesus Christ a democrat. This Jesus Christ does not conquer. No, this Jesus Christ is standing outside the human heart like a lovesick teenage loverboy knocking on the door waiting, longing, begging for His sweetheart to come in. And it is only when the person that Jesus Christ’s target makes the free will decision to open the door to his or her heart and invite Jesus Christ in that salvation occurs.

For this to happen any other way, uninvited, unasked, and without consent, is tyranny. For Jesus Christ is not a sovereign king who rules by way of His undisputed dominion over the creation that is the work of His own hands for Him to do as He pleases. No, that is tyranny. Such rule is illegitimate, based on the threat of force rather than the consent of the governed! A true, enlightened philosopher king governs not by power or divine right, but by mutual consent! So, the one who stands at the door and knocks and will not come in without the consent of the “pilot” (for Jesus Christ is merely the co-pilot, not the actual pilot who is running the show and is the true master of eternal destiny, which is man’s free will) is Jesus Christ, the genuine article. The conquerer who does not ask permission, who does not gladly (though under submission) come when asked and does not meekly leave when rejected? Now that has to be the anti-Christ! So says the modern Christian mindset.

Thankfully, John Bunyan did not live in modern Enlightenment times! Therefore, Bunyan presents a different Jesus Christ, one that is actually present on the pages of the Bible before all the modern humanist filters and constructs are placed on it. Bunyan’s rather rough allegory presents a kingdom ruled by Shaddai (God the Father), whose most prominent and prized possession is the city Mansoul, which was built by the King Himself. While the modern mindset reared on democracy would revile the idea that a city is the possession of any king, A) this was in fact the custom of monarchs in times past – the kingdom and all in it were their possessions, and in the east the subjects of the “lord-kings” were considered slaves to the lord-king, and remember the Bible is an oriental book, not a western book and B) the Bible was fully written in the mindset of this custom. Mansoul rebelled against King Shaddai due to the provocation and trickery of Diabolus (Satan) and made Satan its king instead, under the false pretense that they could exchange status as slaves under King Shaddai’s rule to free men under his rule. Of course, Diabolus immediately made the residents of Mansoul his slaves, but so thoroughly corrupted and tricked them that they mistook the slavery of Diabolus and sin for liberation. Their delusion was so strong that when King Shaddai sent His captains (difficult to tell in the allegory, my guess is that they are angels) to liberate Mansoul from Diabolus, they resisted with all their might. The story was explicit: when Mansoul was given a multitude of opportunities to make a free will choice for King Shaddai, they rejected King Shaddai each time due to the depths of their depravity.

So, King Shaddai sent His Son, Prince Emmanuel, to recapture Mansoul. In this allegory, Emmanuel did not conquer Mansoul by standing at the door knocking and being invited in. Quite the contrary, He came with an army of soldiers and overcame the recalcitrant Mansoul, who resisted Him with all the force that it could muster – as it was still dedicated and devoted to Diabolus and its own sinful passions – with mighty force. Make no mistake, in this allegory, “and he went forth conquering, and to conquer” Mansoul! After the conquering of Mansoul was done, Prince Emmanuel had the entire town confess that He took the town for Himself as His prize by force; that when the town had the chance – indeed several chances – to yield itself up to the government of the Prince and His Father by choice, they refused each time. So, Mansoul chose the rule of Diabolus, and Prince Emmanuel gained the rule of Mansoul only by overtaking Diabolus, binding him, driving him out, and “spoiling the goods of the strongman” by declaring and setting up His own rule and domain – and through it re-establishing the same of King Shaddai – by force. Mansoul had no say in the matter, because Mansoul, by decree, election and will of God the Father its Owner and Creator – had declared it to be so. Mansoul did not choose Prince Emmanuel, but Emmanuel chose Mansoul (John 15:16).

Now, Jesus Christ as He is commonly depicted in most modern gospel music is not the rider on the white horse. But Jesus Christ as depicted in Holy War and in the Bible may well be. If nothing else, it is something to consider. Another thing to consider: why would the anti-Christ have to go about conquering the world to begin with? According to the words of Jesus Christ, Satan is already the prince of this world (John 14:30)! 2 Corinthians 4:4 declares Satan to be the god of this world, Ephesians 2:2 declares him to be the prince of the powers of the air. So, the anti-Christ does not need to conquer the world. All he needs is to have Satan’s authority transferred to him. Revelation 13:2 says exactly that: “And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as [the feet] of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.” Further, Revelation 17 says that the rulers of the earth GIVE their power to the beast, NOT that he conquers them and takes it from them by force.

This may seem like idle speculation, or an excessive emphasis on “last things” when other issues concerning orthodoxy and orthopraxy are more pressing: “minoring in the majors.” However, one’s view of last things often casts a shadow on one’s belief. Many theological liberals and “moderates” de-emphasize predictive prophecy because of an anti-supernatural bias. Others use apocalyptic texts to promote the political and social causes that are near and dear to them. And many Christians are attracted to the rapture doctrines because of their desire not to suffer persecution and rejection by the world as Christ suffered the same.

In a similar fashion, the idea that the anti-Christ is the conquerer on the white horse reveals the mindset of a great many Christian theologians, preachers, and laymen concerning the doctrine of original sin. So many Christians SAY that they believe in original sin, or even total depravity, but by adhering to such interpretations as this, it really does imply otherwise. If original sin is true, if total depravity is true, then why is it that Jesus Christ comes only by willing invitation, and the anti-Christ only by force? Is that not backwards? If the anti-Christ, the beast is “the man of sin”, then the fallen, wicked world, if it is not his already, will freely, gladly accept him as one of their own, a kindred spirit! Again, why would a sinful world oppose and resist a man of sin? Why would they not accept him and instead need to be conquered by him? Only if there is some inherent virtue, inherent goodness in him that would cause him to resist the evil rather than accept it.

The idea that the anti-Christ would have to conquer is based on the notion that man is basically good; that the nations are basically good. And is that not what so many seem to adhere to because of their political, cultural and social beliefs? That the nations – especially the pro-western capitalist democracies – are good, and only the exceptions – the anti-democratic, anti-western, authoritarian regimes – are bad.

Isn’t it curious how most of the theories about where the anti-Christ will come is from the “bad” nations? First it was from the “bad” communist regimes. Then it was from the “bad” secular humanist socialist United Nations or European Union. Now speculation centers on the “bad” Islamic regimes. The idea that the anti-Christ could come from – gasp! – America, the shining city on a hill, the nation founded on Christianity and is a beacon of freedom and goodness? Well, MAYBE, but only if he is not really one of us like Obama!

Again, it is based on the idea that there is some inherent virtue in man, and some inherent virtue in what man builds. It is based on a rejection of original sin, a rejection of total depravity. Even the very idea that Satan takes over the earth and installs the anti-Christ only when the church departs after the rapture is based on the notion that Satan is not the god of this world at present! Ironically, people who adhere to this belief are de facto amillennalists believing that rather than being the god of this world in this present age, Satan is currently bound by the church’s presence.

So many Christians who profess to be evangelical or fundamentalist and profess a belief in original sin based on the actions of Adam only apply that doctrine to soteriology. They only apply mankind’s fallen nature to the individual human soul! But when it comes time to apply it to a larger scale, they shrink back! Why? Because of their love of this present world and the things in it! To those people, James 4:4’s “Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God” applies to liking MTV and the New York Times editorial page and not the entire fallen worldly system! The parts of the world they like, they consider it good, moral, even Christian. It is only the part that they are alienated from, usually because of political or cultural considerations, that they consider to be “worldly.”

But go back to the text and view it in context. Yes, Revelation concerns the last days. But the letter to the Hebrews – and elsewhere in the New Testament – declares that the last days began after the work of Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ was the fulfillment of God’s plan and the high point of the history of creation. So, the last days – the time period that Revelation concerns itself with – is not merely the last seven years, the “great tribulation.” Instead, it concerns itself with the entire endtimes, which is now, and has been since Pentecost. That is why the letters to the churches are the first part of the Revelation. They are not introductory material to set the stage for the eschatology. Instead, they are part and parcel of the eschatology!

In that context, note that the white horse and its rider come first. It is the first seal! So, after the heavenly visions in Revelation 4-5, the white horse and its rider are the first thing that we encounter when the events shift back earthward in Revelation 6. So, why not strongly associate the white horse and rider with Jesus Christ speaking to and walking amongst the churches in Revelation 2-3? Were the material in Revelation to be arranged topically (i.e. with the things happening in heaven all together and the things happening on earth all together), that is exactly how it would appear … Revelation 6:1-2 would immediately follow the challenge to the Laodicean church!

So then, why not consider the possibility that the rider on the white horse given the bow and the crown and goes about conquering (and as this article states he does not obtain or use these things illegitimately in a manner that is against God’s will … such ideas are missing from the text) is going about to foreign lands conquering souls of sinners for God the Father? Did not Jesus Christ say in the Olivet discourse (i.e. Matthew 24:14) that the end will not come until His gospel is preached in all the world for a witness to all nations? Well, in Revelation 6, though it is certainly the last days, the end is not yet come! So, me must consider that the rider on the white horse is none other than Prince Emmanuel enlarging the domain of King Shaddai through the conquest of souls in every tribe and nation that are hardened with the total depravity of original sin.

Granted, this article does state that the rider is the Holy Spirit, not Jesus Christ. I disagree, but for my purposes the distinction is not a great one, as Jesus Christ sent the Holy Spirit in His Name to complete His Work through the church which is Jesus Christ’s Body, and the Holy Spirit is the One who performs regeneration. Instead, the main point is to consider the strong possibility that man-centered, humanistic thinking is the reason why the rider on the white horse was ever called the anti-Christ to begin with, especially when one has to be very inconsistent in one’s interpretation of Revelation and the Bible in general to arrive at that viewpoint.

Of course, the main point is that Jesus Christ is returning to judge the world and all its people for their wickedness. The only way to escape this judgment that is certainly to come at a time in the future that has been predetermined by God the Father is to be saved through Jesus Christ. If you have not been, I urge and entreat you that you would be so; that you too would be a conquest of Jesus Christ as was I.

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A Website Promoting The Partial Rapture Theory

Posted by Job on July 13, 2007

Watchman Nee (http://watchmannee.org) believed in this doctrine as well. secretsofsurvival.com/survival/2007_rapture.html. I will not vouch for their theology or exegesis, but at least they are onto that Council on Foreign Relations worker Rick Warren.

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Another View On The Strong Delusion Prophecy

Posted by Job on June 21, 2007

I personally once believed that “strong delusion” was what God was going to send into the world as part of the pre – tribulation secret rapture so that the people Left Behind would not know that we were gone. Why? Because what the rest of the world will make of our disappearances is a major “issue” in dispensationalism and other pre – tribulation rapture doctrines that has not been dealt with in any serious way in anything that I have heard or read (and no, “Left Behind” does not qualify for dealing with it in a serious way). But as I recently re – read the passages of II Thessalonians 2, I saw that the strong delusion will be sent to the church, not to the world.

As stated in a previous weblog post, Mike Ratliff asserts that pre – tribulation rapture doctrines themselves are the strong delusion in What is the Great Delusion?. A hole in his theory in my opinion: believing in a rapture of any sort is a decidedly minority – and much despised – view in Christendom, even among Protestants. He also states that it is because pre – tribulationists reject truth out of the hardness of their hearts (I say “their” because I am now post – tribulationist; see Correlating Don Imus, Christians, Blacks, Women, And The Rapture) … how can that be when the rapture issue is not clearly stated in understandable language? It is not as if these are people claiming that murder isn’t a sin or that godliness is gain (at least not in this instance anyway). But for another perspective on the strong delusion prophecy, please see this Soldier Servant post Strong Delusion – The Apostate Christian Church Has Received The Curse Of The Strong Delusion Sent By God

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More “Left Behind” False Doctrine Exposed

Posted by Job on June 21, 2007

Mike Ratliff, whose weblog I find fascinating despite (or perhaps because of) disagreeing with everything on it, makes the bold case that dispensationalism and other pre – tribulation rapture doctrines make up the strong delusion prophesied by Paul in his What is the Great Delusion? article. I disagree, but it is not hard to see why he feels this way. I have detailed how John Hagee is using his dispensational beliefs to justify not attempting to convert Jews and to get us to attack Iran. And Soldier Servant has a couple of posts on the false doctrine is in the “Left Behind” books, and how dangerous it can be! Should Christians Commit Murder For “The Cause”? and False Doctrine In “Left Behind”: The Remnant Teaches Against the Doctrine of the God-Sent Strong Delusion articles. Both webloggers have very strong statements about the matter. I am looking for an article or research paper that contains an unbiased view of the various endtimes doctrines, especially from a historical point of view, so that I can provide it to you. But in general, please be very suspicious of anything that is embraced by the masses and is popular in favor of things that are simple, common, detested, and rejected even by the vast majority of professing Christians.

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Man’s Genetical Hardwiring Toward Religious Belief

Posted by Job on June 7, 2007

From BornToWin.Net, a most excellent teaching ministry.

Is it true that man is “genetically hardwired” towards religion? According to Tony Blankley, some neuro – scientists think so. One thing is clear. Man is hardwired with a system of logic. I didn’t understand years ago that computers are hardwired with a logical system that included a language. If you didn’t know know the language, you couldn’t do much with the computer. Some friends gave me my first computer. I suspect because they hadn’t been able to make it work any better than I could at first. I turned it on and started pressing keys, but nothing of interest happened. I could make letters appear on the screen, but the letters didn’t do anything.

I sort of felt like the proverbial monkey at a typewriter, banging out random symbols. And them someone told me the magic word: DOS. But what was DOS? Ah well, there was the rub. DOS means “Disk Operating System.” The computer had slots for two disks, so I bought one that said “DOS” and put it in. I still couldn’t do any work, I had to get another disk that had a program. But neither disk would work in just any computer. The computer had to be hardwired with a language so that it would understand what was on the disks.

So the term hardwired entered into the language of psychology and neuro – science as a description of that part of the human mind we are all born with. Every child born into the world arrives with a built – in system of logic. We don’t have to be taught it, because it is hardwired into us. The brain itself is “wired” according to a logical system, and the mind operates on that system. We start life witih an untrained logical system with an enormous potential for development.

What makes this interesting is that, in the absence of true religion and faith in God, man will inevitably make up his onw. In primitive societies, they create wooden gods. In intellectual societies, a little more ingenuity is required. Blankley: Some neuro – scientists see evidence that man is genetically hardwired to be disposed to religious conviction. If this is so, it might explain why even among the French – the most secular culture on earth – only 25 percent claim to be atheists and a full 60 percent believe in a spiritual component to life. It might also explain why the environmental movement tends to veer towards a religious, rather than a scientific, sensibility.

There are two things I found of special interest. One is that you cannot eradicate religion from the human being by education. If you could, the French would have done it long ago. Maybe this accounts for the persistence of religious faith in this country despite of an educational system that is legally hardwired to eradicate it. I also notice the suggestion of religious sensibility in the environmental movement (*my note: the Gaia religion). The idea of a religious instinct is important. Geese are hardwired to migrate. Man is hardwired to make sense out of his world – what Viktor Frankl called a “drive to meaning.” And making sense out of the world involves some sense of direction, thus prediction. Or, in biblical terms, prophecy. Now, I pause to reflect on an obvious truth. Man didn’t wire himself. Nor did his system of logic evolve from neurons, any more than than the logic of my computer evolved from a collection of wires. Both are the works of a designer/creator. Any suggestion that man is hardwired to do anything is a suggestion of design and object.

Yours in the service of true religion, Ronald L. Dart

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The Anti – Christ Strategy On Display In New York Times Gun Control Article

Posted by Job on May 7, 2007

This link (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/us/06firearms.html?_r=1&oref=slogin) on how our increasingly Vatican – run judiciary was willing to co – opt liberal language to give the right a gun control victory is no big news. The Supreme Court used the civil rights “disparate impact” nonsense to decide Bush versus Gore.  Anthony Kennedy referenced international law to decide that we should not be giving the death penalty to kids. And Sandra Day O’Connor used liberal precedents to justify the school voucher rulings. Now with the exception of the death penalty ruling, Bible believing conservatives generally jumped for joy when our court system gave them one of their precious but ultimately meaningless victories on one of their little “political issues” (for instance, the school voucher ruling has resulted in virtually no increase in children receiving a Bible – based education, and we have to realize that any school that actually gives a Bible – based education would not be allowed to receive federal funds from Ted Kennedy’s Department of Education; the school voucher political issue actually distracted Christians from what they should have been doing, which is raising private funds to send poor children to Christian schools). But what Christians who celebrate these court “victories” on “conservative” issues is that whenever the Supreme Court gives them what they think they want based on a liberal anti – Christ precedent, what they are actually doing is further establishing the liberal anti – Christ precedent in our system of laws, making them almost impossible to overturn, and allowing them to be used against Christians in the future. So, all of you GOP Christians who were so happy when Clarence Thomas, Antonin Scalia, Anthony Kennedy, and William Rehnquist (who used to keep blacks from voting) all of a sudden discovered merit in the “disparate impact” sham legal principle to get Bush into office are going to be quite upset in the very near future when that same Bush versus Gore decision is going to be cited in order to, say, uphold laws that deny Christians access to public areas to preach against homosexuality. It is a stretch, you say? Well, the Supreme Court accepting Thurgood Marshall’s SOCIOLOGY PRESENTATION  (something about how some Swedish researcher “proved” that black kids who played with white dolls had lower self – esteem than black kids who played with black dolls) to decide Brown versus Board of Education of Topeka, Kansas shows just how far these things can “stretch.” And it was absolutely chilling to read how the Heritage Foundation bragged about using “the NAACP strategy” in this gun case.

Instead of cheering this abomination, Bible – believers of all political stripes should be absolutely aghast. Check out the mindset of one of the main people whose writings were used in this “decision”, : “In an interview, Professor Levinson described himself as “an A.C.L.U.-type who has not ever even thought of owning a gun.” Amazing that this fellow speaks of “I have never even thought of owning a gun” as if feeling this way is some sort of moral virtue or sign of spiritual purity. He speaks of it in the same manner that you would hope a Christian would be able to (truthfully) say “I have never even thought of committing adultery” or “I have never even thought of practicing occult.” If this isn’t a clear example that secular humanism is nothing more than not only a mindset and value system but a whole other RELIGION in direct competition with and opposition to Christianity, what is?

And I have news for you Christians who are celebrating this ruling built upon the corrupt rotten foundation of such subversives as Levinson and , especially you conservative/libertarian types doing your ritualistic dances around the bonfire of “individual rights”, “private property”, and whatever: Levinson and Tribe (or rather the evil spirits working in and through them) know what they are doing. Experienced spiritual deliverance ministers say that sometimes during services when they are casting demons out of a person that has multiple demons in him, the most powerful controlling (or “root”) demon will offer up another demon to be cast out in place of him, hoping to thereby trick the deliverance ministers into leaving the trail of the real problem and allowing the root demon to remain in (and of course allow the demon that was offered up as a distraction back in later). Well, Christians, what Tribe and Levinson are all about is ABORTION and GAY RIGHTS.  That is what “INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS” means these days. Tribe and Levinson are willing to “sacrifice” (temporarily anyway) something that is politically unattainable in the current environment – banning private ownership of firearms – in order to get the Supreme Court to adopt legal thinking that can be used to protect, defend, and advance homosexuality, abortion, bestiality, euthanasia, drug legalization, prostitution, the NAMBLA agenda, and so many other anti – Christ things that you can think of. And this is the best part: after a generation or two will have been so thoroughly corrupted by the court decisions and laws built upon the Tribe/Levinson “individual rights” foundation, the political climate will be one that will support banning private ownership of firearms. People, this isn’t even the “lose a battle to win a war” strategy, because nothing is truly lost! They get the abortion/gay rights/euthanasia/whatever rulings TODAY and the gun control rulings TOMORROW! And guess who they have to thank for it? CHRISTIANS that have been duped into supporting the anti – Christ agenda through right wing (and left wing) politics. Aren’t you proud of yourselves? Stuff like this makes me so glad that I wasn’t one of those who ran out and threw up a post attacking gun control after the Virginia Tech nightmare (another one here).

Do not get me wrong, I generally oppose  (not only did Hitler use it to his advantage, but American blacks were once prevented from owning guns as well), and furthermore where a perfectly Biblically based argument can be made for defending oneself, arguments the other way almost always take the Bible out of context in some of the most grotesque ways possible. Rather, the point of this exercise was to demonstrate that just like in so many other ways, we must be elect. Study to show ourselves approved. Have discernment. For mindlessly running after the “” political mob (or anything else for that matter, including organized Christianity) can easily result in your running with the forces of anti – Christ.

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Correlating Don Imus, Christians, Blacks, Women, And The Rapture

Posted by Job on April 13, 2007

In the past I have declared that while I do believe in the rapture, I could not decide between the pre – tribulationist, mid – tribulationist, or post – tribulationist camp, and decided that it really doesn’t matter. At the suggestion of Independent Conservative, I read Matthew 24, and am now 100% in the POST – TRIBULATION rapture camp (and have a lot more tolerance for the rapture – deniers), and have decided that it DOES MATTER. Why? BECAUSE WHEN THE GREAT TRIBULATION COMES, WE WILL STILL BE HERE. “When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:), Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:, Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.” That is Matthew 24:15-22, and those warnings apply to US when we will have to HEAD FOR THE HILLS (to the place of refuge) AFTER THE BEAST (the anti – Christ) defiles the soon – to – be reconstructed third temple! And that is why it is important. Those scriptures refer to US! Now, the pre – tribulationists deal with this scripture by claiming that it referred to the destruction of the second temple and the end of the Jewish dispensation in 70 AD, when millions of Jews who refused to abandon Jerusalem fell to the Romans (non – Messianic Jews after the Simcha Jacobovici strand claim that Jesus Christ’s “true radical Pharisee teachings perished” with His followers, a ridiculous claim easily disproved by the historical fact that though some of Yeshua HaMashiach’s followers did die defending Rome, others had previously left Jerusalem and Israel to spread the gospel). Even if that is true, it is merely a prophetic type, a foreshadowing of the real event during the REAL tribulation, just as the first destruction of the temple and scattering of the Jewish people was a foreshadowing of 70 AD. And why is it important? Because if we don’t KNOW that we are going to STILL BE AROUND for the great tribulation, WE WON’T BE PREPARING FOR IT! We won’t heed Yeshua HaMashiach’s Words and head for the place of refuge when the beast defiles the second temple! (The best current theory is that the place of refuge will be Bozrah). Those who are currently being misled by the pre – tribulationists (Tim LaHaye, Left Behind, John Hagee Christian Zionists, and pretty much the vast majority of the fundamentalists and evangelicals) and the mid – tribulationists will have to endure the second half of the tribulation. WE WILL ALL HAVE TO ENDURE THE FIRST HALF, AND ONLY A FEW WILL MISS THE SECOND.

What does this have to do with Don Imus? Well, it appears that all of these Christians that contributed to and are so gleefully cheering the demise of his radio show are not considering that the SUDDEN CRACKDOWN ON CERTAIN BIGOTS NOW WHEN THERE HAVE BEEN BIGOTS ON THE AIRWAVES AND IN THE PRESS FOR DECADES is serving a larger agenda. Which is? Setting the stage for true Christianity to be illegal. Denying us education and employment. Making it a crime to preach the gospel. And so forth. Now, all of this is going to happen anyway, of course. BUT SHOULD WE CHRISTIANS BE TRYING TO HELP IT ALONG? I suppose the “John Hagee Christian Zionist push the US into attacking Iran so Jesus Christ will come back” crowd would say so. (Of course, if they weren’t PRETRIBULATIONISTS they would PROBABLY SEE THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, WOULDN’T THEY? Everyone wants the rapture to hurry up and come NOW, but tell them that they will have to go through tribulation first, and the vast majority will quickly change to RAPTURE HURRY UP AND WAIT.)  Now do not get me wrong, evil is evil. Imus’ little act was evil, and Christians were right to oppose it. But shouldn’t there be a way to do this without furthering the agenda of the anti – Christ?

So, Christians who are jumping up and down cheering at how Don Imus’ bloody scalp is now pinned to the wall of the speech code mob (I mean come on, if it was really about respecting black women, wouldn’t they have gone after RAPPERS by now? even WHITE ones, like Eminem? And Quentin Tarantino is not a rapper, but where is the mob over HIS racist work?) please try to understand rather than accusing me of being insensitive to blacks and women and their emotions over the evil words of one Don Imus. Instead, let me see if I can explain this in the “multiculturalism diversity tolerance” language that I learned all those times that I was sent to human resources for “training seminars” every time that I offended someone at work. The anti – Christ will persecute Christians during the great tribulation. Black people are disproportionately Christian. Women are disproportionately Christian. Black women are disproportionately Christian. So, the anti – Christ’s persecution of the church will have a disparate negative impact against blacks, women, and ESPECIALLY black women like Rutgers basketball coach Vivian Stringer, a Christian. Therefore, the anti – Christ’s persecution of the church will be RACIST and SEXIST. So please, Christians of all sexes and races, do not contribute to the anti – Christ’s racism and sexism (or anything else for that matter). As Christians we must zealously oppose all sin with the gospel, but when it comes to sin (Imus’ remarks) versus sin (the political correctness agenda) either oppose them both without being used by either, or just sit on the sidelines and let God take care of it.

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Robots Gaining Rights While Abortion Culture Kills Babies!

Posted by Job on March 8, 2007

Even as the uncontested right to kill babies is becoming more and more entrenched, robots are gaining rights! And no, this is not the antiabortion lingo that calls fetuses babies; they are actually killing babies out there (see link, another link, and another)! See what happens when you discard the notion that humans are made in the image of God? You start to value machines (and animals!) over people. You know, in India, some people starve to death in no small part because they refuse to eat cows, which they worship and regard as sacred. And in many cultures, they have long worshipped inanimate objects like rocks and trees (and this speaks nothing of the environmentalist New Age and naturalist earth worshippers in ours), so worshipping a moving talking robot is no big deal. People, can we deny the state of depravity which mankind is now falling into? Are you still going to deny that the thoughts of man are becoming only evil continually as the days of Noah? Or that a spirit of strong delusion causing men to believe a lie is not moving across the globe? Those are both key endtimes prophecies in the New Testament folks, one by Saul who became Paul and another by Yeshua HaMashiach. Father YHVH, in the Name of Yeshua HaMashiach and by Ruach Hakadosh, may people be aware of and warned concerning the wickedness of the times, and may it cause the saved to seek a place of refuge within Your Word and Your Righteousness, and the unsaved to come to repentance so that both may be spared the wrath that is soon to come. In the Name of Yeshua HaMashiach, so let it be.

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Gold Sales Hit Record: Revelation 6:6 People!

Posted by Job on February 16, 2007

Why is everyone buying up gold? Because they are hoarding up for the coming economic collapse! As well they should be. These are incontrovertibly the last days, and there is a specific prophecy in Revelation 6:6 that was referenced earlier in Ezekiel (how many of you knew that Ezekiel is a preview of Revelation? and to think there was an attempt to remove Ezekiel from the canon in the days of the early church) regarding the future global economic dearth. “A measure of wheat for a penny, three measures of barley for a penny” means that a day’s wage will only be enough to earn enough food for himself, and that will be the lot for the poor and middle and even upper class, but “see that thou not hurt the oil and the wine” means that the rich will be insulated from the dearth, and indeed may actually be the cause of it (as was depicted in “Left Behind”)! There are tons of commercials and informercials on TV and radio exhorting people to go out and buy gold. People are going for it because they are certain that the sham international finance system controlled by the IMF and the World Bank and similar is going to soon collapse. The United States is hugely in debt (to China) and it is only going to get worse as the baby boomers age, get on Social Security and Medicare, and there are not nearly enough young workers to pay into the system to sustain it. And that is just America. The EU has huge chronic unemployment and lack of innovation and productivity. And then there is the energy situation; oil reserves are depleting and we have not yet come up with any viable alternatives, and the leading nations are really not even trying; the U.S. political and industrial leaders strongly prefer oil, and despite their pointing the finger of moral superiority over their support of Kyoto and other green initiatives, the EU bends over backward for OPEC, even regimes like Iran, to keep the cheap oil flowing. But the day will soon come when either the oil reserves deplete, or the Shi’ite Muslims decide to shut it off in order to economically cripple the west. Declining birthrates across the west, thanks to our oh so socially progressive policies and attitudes force America and many other nations to rely on foreign immigration to replace the labor pool, which leads to volatile economic and social conditions. The world is again lapsing into the internecine warfare thing as well, especially in the Middle East, Asia, and Africa, which destroys governments, economies, families, infrastructure, and workers. There also seems to be a curious little economic bloc lining up of several Latin American nations (led by Venezuela), North Korea, China, Iran, and Russia. Turkey is threatening to join them if the EU does not let them in (which they will not because Turkey refuses to comply with their standards). And the global AIDS pandemic is wiping out the working class in Africa and is threatening to do the same in Asia. And the bird flu thing? It has fizzled out so far, but global warming will facilitate the spread of that and many other nasty bugs, in addition to causing global weather havoc that will decimate the economy.

So in response to all this bad economic news, especially for the west, people are buying gold. But there is no security in gold, or an any of the world’s riches, my friend. Do not lay up your treasures on earth where thieves can steal and moth corrupt, but in Heaven where they are safe with Father YHVH, Yeshua Hamashiach said! Father God in the Name of Jesus Christ, please may the message be preached by Christians to Christians in all else that in the hard economic times soon to come, that people should not put their trust in gold, silver, land, guns, or armies, but rather in salvation from the world and their sins through Yeshua Hamashiach. May your people go forth and bring the gospel message of overcoming the world and their sins, and eternal life through salvation in Jesus Christ. May people not succumb to fear, panic, exploitation, and greed, but may they be strong in the Lord so that they can stand against evil times and the evil one. In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen. technorati tag:

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