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More Than We Can Ask or Think Ephesians 3:20

Posted by Job on March 27, 2008

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BIBLE MEDITATION: “Now unto Him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us.” Ephesians 3:20

DEVOTIONAL THOUGHT: To be found in Jesus, Paul says, is worth more than all of his religion, race, and ritual. It is a relationship with the Almighty God. It is Jesus. Paul says, “I’m tired of trying. I’m going to start trusting.” Basically, Paul lived a life of working his way to heaven before he met the Lord on the road to Damascus (see Acts 9). Legalism is a terrible thing. It is a harsh task master under which no one can succeed. Liberty, not legalism, is what the Lord Jesus Christ offers — freedom, not bondage; relationship, not religion. We give up nothing for which Jesus will not abundantly offer more than we could ever hope or dream.

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Declaring A Moratorium On Moralism, Which Takes Christ Out Of Christianity!

Posted by Job on January 18, 2008

A Moratorium on Moralism, Part 1

A Moratorium on Moralism, Part 2

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Are Kenneth Copeland And Several Other Leading Televangelists MASONS?

Posted by Job on September 18, 2007

These links say so. And they are not the only ones that I found.

http://newsletters.cephasministry.com/copelandmason1.99.html

http://newsletters.cephasministry.com/1_00_tbn_gold.html

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/kennethcopeland33rddegreefreemason.htm

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/wolves_in_sheep’s_clothing.htm

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More Proof That Word of Faith Is Mormonism From Kenneth Copeland!

Posted by Job on September 18, 2007

Kenneth Copeland: the Joseph Smith of our time.

Jesus was infected/injected with satan’s sin nature in order for redemption to work

“He [Jesus] is suffering all that there is to suffer. There is no suffering left apart from Him. His emaciated, poured out, little, wormy spirit is down in the bottom of that thing [hell]. And the Devil thinks he’s got Him destroyed.”

Kenneth Copeland (Believer’s Voice of Victory program, April 21, 1991)

“The righteousness of God was made to be sin. He accepted the sin nature of Satan in His own spirit. And at the moment that He did so, He cried, ‘My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken Me?’ You don’t know what happened at the cross. Why do you think Moses, upon instruction of God, raised the serpent upon that pole instead of a lamb? That used to bug me. I said, ‘Why in the world would you want to put a snake up there — the sign of Satan? Why didn’t you put a lamb on that pole?’ And the Lord said, ‘Because it was a sign of Satan that was hanging on the cross.’ He said, ‘I accepted, in My own spirit, spiritual death; and the light was turned off.”

Kenneth Copeland (What Happened from the Cross to the Throne, 1990, audiotape #02-0017, side 2)

Jesus “put Himself into the hands of Satan when He went to that cross, and took that same nature that Adam did [when he sinned].”?

Kenneth Copeland (The Incarnation, 1985, audiotape #01-0402, side 1)

Jesus is said to have remarked, “It was a sign of Satan that was hanging on the cross….I accepted, in my own spirit, spiritual death; and the light was turned off.”?

Kenneth Copeland (What Happened from the Cross to the Throne, 1990, audiotape #02-0017, side 2)

[Jesus] “had to give up His righteousness”?

Kenneth Copeland (The Incarnation, 1985, audiotape #01-0402, side 2)

“How did Jesus then on the cross say, ‘My God.’ Because God was not His Father any more. He took upon Himself the nature of Satan. And I’m telling you Jesus is in the middle of that pit. He’s suffering all that there is to suffer, there is no suffering left . . . apart from Him. His emaciated, little wormy spirit is down in the bottom of that thing and the devil thinks He’s got Him destroyed. But, all of a sudden God started talking.”
Kenneth Copeland (Believer’s Voice of Victory, TBN, April 21, 1991)

Jesus was the first born again man

“He allowed the devil to drag Him into the depths of hell as if He were the most wicked sinner who ever lived … Every demon in hell came down on Him to annihilate Him … [They] tortured Him beyond anything that anybody has ever conceived … In a thunder of spiritual force, the voice of God spoke to the death-whipped, broken, punished spirit of Jesus … [in] the pit of destruction, and charged the spirit of Jesus with resurrection power! Suddenly His twisted, death-wracked spirit began to fill out and come back to life … He was literally being reborn before the devil’s very eyes. He began to flex His spiritual muscles … Jesus Christ dragged Satan up and down the halls of hell … Jesus … was raised up a born-again man … The day I realized that a born-again man had defeated Satan, hell, and death, I got so excited … !”

Kenneth Copeland (“The Price of it All,” Believer’s Voice of Victory, September 1991, p. 4)

“In hell He [Jesus] suffered for you and for me. The Bible says hell was made for Satan and his angels. It was not made for men. Satan was holding the Son of God there illegally … The trap was set for Satan and Jesus was the bait.”

Kenneth Copeland (Walking in the Realm of the Miraculous, 1979, p. 77)

“The Spirit of God spoke to me and He said, “Son, realize this. Now follow me in this and don’t let your tradition trip you up.” He said, “Think this way — a twice-born man whipped Satan in his own domain.” And I threw my Bible down… like that. I said, “What?” He said, “A born-again man defeated Satan, the firstborn of many brethren defeated him.” He said, “You are the very image, the very copy of that one.” I said, “Goodness, gracious sakes alive!” And I began to see what had gone on in there, and I said, “Well now you don’t mean, you couldn’t dare mean, that I could have done the same thing?” He said, “Oh yeah, if you’d had the knowledge of the Word of God that He did, you could have done the same thing, ’cause you’re a reborn man too.”
Kenneth Copeland (Substitution and Identification, tape #00-0202, side 2)

” …that Word of the Living God went down into that pit of destruction and charges the spirit of Jesus with resurrection power! Suddenly, His twisted, death-wracked spirit began to fill out and come back to life. He began to look like something the devil has never seen before. He was literally being reborn before the devil’s very eyes. He began to flex his spiritual muscles… Jesus was born again — the firstborn from the dead.”
Kenneth Copeland (The Price of it All, Believer’s Voice in Victory, vol 19 September 1991, p.9)

“He [Jesus] was down in that pit and there he suffered the punishment for three horrible days and nights for Adam’s treason… There is a new birth takes place in the very depths of the earth, when the command of God says ‘That’s enough, loose him and let him go’.”

Kenneth Copeland (What Happened from the Cross to the Throne, 1990, audiotape #02-0017, side 2)

The church is in control, not God

“As a believer, you have a right to make commands in the name of Jesus. Each time you stand on the Word, you are commanding God to a certain extent because it is His Word.”

Kenneth Copeland (Our Covenant with God, 1987, p. 32)

These men think they’re Gods!

“Jesus is no longer the only begotten Son of God.”

Kenneth Copeland (Now We Are In Christ Jesus, 1980, p. 24)

“You are not a spiritual schizophrenic — half-God and half-Satan — you are all-God”?

Kenneth Copeland (Now We Are in Christ Jesus, 1980, p.16-17)

“You don’t have a god in you, you are one”

Kenneth Copeland (The Force of Love, 1987, audiotape #02-0028, side 1)

“I say this with all respect so that it don’t upset you too bad, but I say it anyway. When I read in the Bible where he [Jesus] says, ‘I Am,’ I just smile and say, ‘Yes, I Am, too!’”

Kenneth Copeland (Believer’s Voice of Victory, TBN July 9, 1987)

“Now Peter said by exceeding great and precious promises you become partakers of the divine class. All right, are we gods? We are a class of gods!”?

Kenneth Copeland (Praise The Lord, TBN February 5, 1986)

“Adam was created in God’s own image and likeness, a spirit-being…[and] takes on the nature of his spiritual father or lord.”?

Kenneth Copeland (Our Covenant with God, 1987, p.7-8)

“Gods reason for creating Adam was his desire to reproduce himself. I mean a reproduction of Himself. And in the Garden of Eden He did just that. He was not a little like God, He was not almost like God, He was not subordinate to God even … Adam was as much like God as you can get, just the same as Jesus. Adam in the Garden of Eden was God manifested in the flesh”
Kenneth Copeland (Following the faith of Abraham Audio, #01-3001 side 1)

4th Dimension of non-carnal attainment

“Pray to yourself, because I’m in your self and you’re in My self. We are one Spirit, saith the Lord.”

Kenneth Copeland (“Believer’s Voice of Victory”, Feb. 1987, p.9)

The faith force

“Faith is a power force,” he claims. “It is a tangible force. It is a conductive force.”?

Kenneth Copeland (The Force of Faith, 1989, 10)

“Faith is a spiritual force….It is substance. Faith has the ability to effect natural substance.”?

Kenneth Copeland (Forces of the Recreated Human Spirit, 1982, 8)

“The force of gravity…makes the law of gravity work…this force of faith…makes the laws of the spirit world function.”?

Kenneth Copeland (The Laws of Prosperity, 1974, 18-19)

“Faith is God’s source of power”?

Kenneth Copeland (Forces of the Recreated Human Spirit, 1982, 8)

“Faith was the raw material substance that the Spirit of God used to form the universe.”?

Kenneth Copeland (Authority of the Believer II, 1987, audiotape #01-0302, side 1)

“The force of faith was controlling His (Jesus’) ministry.”?

Kenneth Copeland (The Force of Faith, 9)

“Man was created to know that great life force and he longs for it in his dreams. Adam had that life force in him before he committed high treason”?

Kenneth Copeland (What Happened from the Cross to the Throne, side 2)

“God did not create the world out of nothing, He used the Force of His Faith.”

Kenneth Copeland (pirit, Soul, & Body, #01-0601, Tape #1)

“Faith is God’s source of power”?

Kenneth Copeland (Freedom From Fear, 1983. p. 12)

Words are spiritual containers

“Words are spiritual containers,”?

Kenneth Copeland (Forces of the Recreated Human Spirit, 15; cf. 14)

The “force of faith is released by words.”?

Kenneth Copeland (Authority of the Believer II, 1987, audiotape #01-0302, side 1)

“God used words when He created the heaven and the earth….Each time God spoke, He released His faith — the creative power to bring His words to pass.”?

Kenneth Copeland (The Power of the Tongue, 1980, 4)

“As a born-again believer, you are equipped with the Word. You have the power of God at your disposal. By getting the Word deep into your spirit and speaking it boldly out your mouth, you release spiritual power to change things in the natural circumstances.”?

Kenneth Copeland (The Power of the Tongue, 1980, 15)

“Words create pictures, and pictures in your mind create words. And then the words come back out your mouth….And when that spiritual force comes out it is going to give substance to the image that’s on the inside of you. Aw, that’s that visualization stuff! Aw, that’s that New Age! No, New Age is trying to do this; and they’d get somewhat results out of it because this is spiritual law, brother.”

Kenneth Copeland (Believer’s Voice of Victory, TBN, March 28, 1991)

“Words are the most sacred things….This is a word planet…governed by words…created by words….Words cause it to function…cause life…cause death….Words go on forever….Words are holy.”?

Kenneth Copeland (The Abrahamic Covenant, side 1)

Sensual manifestations

“Everything that you’re able to see or touch, anything that you can feel, anything that’s perceptive to the five physical senses, was originally the faith of God, and was born in the substance of God’s faith.”

Kenneth Copeland (Spirit, Soul, & Body Part 1, 1985, audiotape #01-0601, side 1)

God is the biggest failure in the bible

“I was shocked when I found out who the biggest failure in the Bible actually is…The biggest one in the whole Bible is God…I mean, He lost His top-ranking, most anointed angel; the first man He ever created; the first woman He ever created; the whole earth and all the fullness therein; a third of the angels, at least – that’s a big loss, man….Now, the reason you don’t think of God as a failure is He never said He’s a failure. And you’re not a failure till you say you’re one.”?

Kenneth Copeland (Praise-a-thon on Praise The Lord, April 1988)

God’s physical description

“God spoke Adam into existence in authority with words. These words struck Adam’s body in the face. His body and God’s were exactly the same size.”

Kenneth Copeland (Holy Bible, Kenneth Copeland Reference Edition 1991, p. 45)

“If you stood Adam upside God, they look just exactly alike….If you stood Jesus and Adam side-by-side, they would look and act and sound exactly alike….The image is that they look just alike, but the likeness is that they act alike and they are alike….All of God’s attributes, all of God’s authority, all of God’s faith, all of God’s ability was invested in that man.”?

Kenneth Copeland (Authority of the Believer IV? 1987, audiotape #01-0304), side 1)

“The Bible said He measured the heavens with a 9 inch span. Now the span is the difference, distance between the end of the thumb and the end of the little Finger. And, and that Bible said, in fact the amplified translation translates the Hebrew text that way. That He measured out the heavens with a 9 inch span. Well, I got a ruler and measured mine, and my span’s 8 3/4 inches long. So now God’s span is a quarter of an inch, a quarter inch longer than mine. So you see, that faith didn’t come billowing out of some giant monster somewhere. It came out of the heart of a being that is very uncanny the way He’s very much like you and me. A being that stands somewhere around 6′ 2 “, 6′ 3″, that weighs somewhere in the neighbourhood of a couple of hundred pounds, little better, has a span of 8 and, I mean nine inches across – stood up and said “Light be [Let it be?]“, and this universe situated itself and went into motion. Glory to God.”

Kenneth Copeland (“pirit, Soul, & Body Part 1″ 1985, audio tape #01-0601, side 1)

God is a “spirit-being with a body, complete with eyes, and eyelids, ears, nostrils, a mouth, hands and fingers, and feet.”

Kenneth Copeland (Kenneth Copeland ministry letter, 21 July 1977)

The Womb-Man

“Adam was made in the image of God. He was as much female as he was male. He was exactly like God. Then God separated him and removed the female part. Woman means ‘man with the womb.’ Eve had as much authority as Adam did as long as they stayed together.”

Kenneth Copeland (Sensitivity of Heart, KCP Publications, 1984, p. 23)

“Then, he created Eve out of Adam. Now, actually God didn’t name her Eve, Adam named her Eve later. That wasn’t her name, her name was Adam … Adam. When God said Adam, they both came. Their authority was one and the same together. They did everything together. They had always been together. Even when she was still part of him, he was as much female as he was male, LIKE GOD IS. And God separated the female part of him and then put them back together. And she was Adam, they were Adam. He was the man, she was the woman. She was the man with the womb.”
Kenneth Copeland ((Transcribed From A Message Given By Kenneth Copeland, Paw Creek Ministries) )

God lives on the mother planet

“Heaven has a north and a south and an east and a west. Consequently, it must be a planet.”?

Kenneth Copeland (Following the Faith of Abraham I, 1989 audiotape, #01-3001, side 1)

“You don’t think earth was first, do you? Huh? Well, you don’t think that God made man in His image, and then made earth in some other image? There is not anything under this whole sun that’s new. Are you hearing what I’m saying? This is all a copy. It’s a copy of home. It’s a copy of the Mother Planet. Where God lives, He made a little one just like His and put us on it.”

Kenneth Copeland (Following the Faith of Abraham I, 1989 audiotape, #01-3001, side 1)

I have met and/or spoken to Jesus

(Relating Jesus speaking) “Don’t be disturbed when people put you down and speak harshly and roughly of you. They spoke that way of Me, should they not speak that way of you? The more you get to be like Me, the more they’re going to think that way of you. They crucified Me for claiming that I was God. But I didn’t claim I was God; I just claimed I walked with Him and that He was in Me. Hallelujah.”
Kenneth Copeland (“Take Time to Pray,” Believer’s Voice of Victory, February 1987, p. 9)

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Kenneth Copeland Says God Is Banned From The Earth Unless The Church Allows Him!

Posted by Job on September 18, 2007

“God’s on the outside looking in. He doesn’t have any legal entree into the earth. The thing don’t belong to Him. You see how sassy the Devil was in the presence of God in the book of Job? God said, “Where have you been?” Wasn’t any of God’s business. He [Satan] didn’t even have to answer if he didn’t want to … God didn’t argue with him a bit! You see, this is the position that God’s been in … Might say, “Well, if God’s running things He’s doing a lousy job of it.” He hadn’t been running ‘em, except when He’s just got, you know, a little bit of a chance.”
Kenneth Copeland (Image of God in You III, 1989, audiotape #01-1403, side 1)

“Here’s where we’re gonna depart from ordinary church: Now, you see, God is injecting His Word into the earth to produce this Jesus — these faith-filled words that framed the image that’s in Him … He can’t just walk onto the earth and say, “Let it be!” because He doesn’t have the right. He had to sneak it in here around the god of this world that was blockin’ every way that he possibly could.”

Kenneth Copeland (The Image of God in You III, 1989, audiotape #01-1403, side 2)

“The Bible says that God gave this earth to the sons of men … and when [Adam] turned and gave that dominion to Satan, look where it left God. If left Him on the outside looking in … He had no legal right to do anything about it, did He? … He had injected Himself illegally into the earth — what Satan had intended for Him to do was to fall for it — pull off an illegal act and turn the light off in God, and subordinate God to himself … He intended to get God into such a trap that He couldn’t get out.”
Kenneth Copeland (What Happened from the Cross to the Throne, 1990, audiotape #02-0017)

“Adam committed high treason, and at that point, all the dominion and authority God had given to him was handed over to Satan. Suddenly, God was on the outside looking in … After Adam’s fall, God found Himself in a peculiar position … God needed an avenue back into the earth … God laid out His proposition and Abram accepted it. It gave God access to the earth and gave man access to God … Technically, if God ever broke the Covenant, He would have to destroy Himself.”
Kenneth Copeland (Our Covenant with God, 1987, pp. 8-11)

“God had no avenue of lasting faith or moving in the earth. He had to have covenant with somebody. He had to be invited in, in other words, or He couldn’t come. God is on the outside looking in. In order to have any say so in the earth, He’s going to have to be in agreement with a man here.”

Kenneth Copeland (God’s Covenants With Man II, 1985, audiotape #01-4404, side 1)

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Want SOME Of Kenneth Copeland’s Best Heresies? Here They Go!

Posted by Job on September 18, 2007

http://www.bereanfaith.com/heresy.php?action=aquote&id=7

Jesus was infected/injected with satan’s sin nature in order for redemption to work

“He [Jesus] is suffering all that there is to suffer. There is no suffering left apart from Him. His emaciated, poured out, little, wormy spirit is down in the bottom of that thing [hell]. And the Devil thinks he’s got Him destroyed.”

Kenneth Copeland (Believer’s Voice of Victory program, April 21, 1991)

“The righteousness of God was made to be sin. He accepted the sin nature of Satan in His own spirit. And at the moment that He did so, He cried, ‘My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken Me?’ You don’t know what happened at the cross. Why do you think Moses, upon instruction of God, raised the serpent upon that pole instead of a lamb? That used to bug me. I said, ‘Why in the world would you want to put a snake up there — the sign of Satan? Why didn’t you put a lamb on that pole?’ And the Lord said, ‘Because it was a sign of Satan that was hanging on the cross.’ He said, ‘I accepted, in My own spirit, spiritual death; and the light was turned off.”

Kenneth Copeland (What Happened from the Cross to the Throne, 1990, audiotape #02-0017, side 2)

Jesus “put Himself into the hands of Satan when He went to that cross, and took that same nature that Adam did [when he sinned].”?

Kenneth Copeland (The Incarnation, 1985, audiotape #01-0402, side 1)

Jesus is said to have remarked, “It was a sign of Satan that was hanging on the cross….I accepted, in my own spirit, spiritual death; and the light was turned off.”?

Kenneth Copeland (What Happened from the Cross to the Throne, 1990, audiotape #02-0017, side 2)

[Jesus] “had to give up His righteousness”?

Kenneth Copeland (The Incarnation, 1985, audiotape #01-0402, side 2)

“How did Jesus then on the cross say, ‘My God.’ Because God was not His Father any more. He took upon Himself the nature of Satan. And I’m telling you Jesus is in the middle of that pit. He’s suffering all that there is to suffer, there is no suffering left . . . apart from Him. His emaciated, little wormy spirit is down in the bottom of that thing and the devil thinks He’s got Him destroyed. But, all of a sudden God started talking.”

Kenneth Copeland (Believer’s Voice of Victory, TBN, April 21, 1991)
The cross wasn’t enough, Jesus redeemed us in hell

“When Jesus cried, ‘It is finished!’ He was not speaking of the plan of redemption. There were still three days and nights to go through before He went to the throne…Jesus’ death on the cross was only the beginning of the complete work of redemption.”

Kenneth Copeland (Jesus — Our Lord of Glory, Believer’s Voice of Victory Magazine 10, 4; April 1982, p. 3)

“Satan conquered Jesus on the Cross and took His spirit to the dark regions of hell”?

Kenneth Copeland (Holy Bible: Kenneth Copeland Reference Edition, 1991, p.129)

“He [Jesus] allowed the devil to drag Him into the depths of hell….He allowed Himself to come under Satan’s control…every demon in hell came down on Him to annihilate Him….They tortured Him beyond anything anybody had ever conceived. For three days He suffered everything there is to suffer.”?

Kenneth Copeland (The Price of It All, 3)
Jesus died spiritually

“Jesus had to go through that same spiritual death in order to pay the price. Now it wasn’t the physical death on the cross that paid the price for sin, because if it had of been any prophet of God that had died for the last couple of thousand years before that could have paid that price. It wasn’t physical death anybody could do that.”?

Kenneth Copeland (What Satan Saw on the Day of Pentecost, audio tape #020022)
Jesus was the first born again man

“He allowed the devil to drag Him into the depths of hell as if He were the most wicked sinner who ever lived … Every demon in hell came down on Him to annihilate Him … [They] tortured Him beyond anything that anybody has ever conceived … In a thunder of spiritual force, the voice of God spoke to the death-whipped, broken, punished spirit of Jesus … [in] the pit of destruction, and charged the spirit of Jesus with resurrection power! Suddenly His twisted, death-wracked spirit began to fill out and come back to life … He was literally being reborn before the devil’s very eyes. He began to flex His spiritual muscles … Jesus Christ dragged Satan up and down the halls of hell … Jesus … was raised up a born-again man … The day I realized that a born-again man had defeated Satan, hell, and death, I got so excited … !”

Kenneth Copeland (“The Price of it All,” Believer’s Voice of Victory, September 1991, p. 4)

“In hell He [Jesus] suffered for you and for me. The Bible says hell was made for Satan and his angels. It was not made for men. Satan was holding the Son of God there illegally … The trap was set for Satan and Jesus was the bait.”

Kenneth Copeland (Walking in the Realm of the Miraculous, 1979, p. 77)

“The Spirit of God spoke to me and He said, “Son, realize this. Now follow me in this and don’t let your tradition trip you up.” He said, “Think this way — a twice-born man whipped Satan in his own domain.” And I threw my Bible down… like that. I said, “What?” He said, “A born-again man defeated Satan, the firstborn of many brethren defeated him.” He said, “You are the very image, the very copy of that one.” I said, “Goodness, gracious sakes alive!” And I began to see what had gone on in there, and I said, “Well now you don’t mean, you couldn’t dare mean, that I could have done the same thing?” He said, “Oh yeah, if you’d had the knowledge of the Word of God that He did, you could have done the same thing, ’cause you’re a reborn man too.”

Kenneth Copeland (Substitution and Identification, tape #00-0202, side 2)

” …that Word of the Living God went down into that pit of destruction and charges the spirit of Jesus with resurrection power! Suddenly, His twisted, death-wracked spirit began to fill out and come back to life. He began to look like something the devil has never seen before. He was literally being reborn before the devil’s very eyes. He began to flex his spiritual muscles… Jesus was born again — the firstborn from the dead.”

Kenneth Copeland (The Price of it All, Believer’s Voice in Victory, vol 19 September 1991, p.9)

“He [Jesus] was down in that pit and there he suffered the punishment for three horrible days and nights for Adam’s treason… There is a new birth takes place in the very depths of the earth, when the command of God says ‘That’s enough, loose him and let him go’.”

Kenneth Copeland (What Happened from the Cross to the Throne, 1990, audiotape #02-0017, side 2)
Anyone could have redeemed us

“It wasn’t a physical death on the cross that paid the price for sin…anybody can do that.”?

Kenneth Copeland (What Satan Saw on the Day of Pentecost, audiotape #BCC-19, side 1)

“Every prophet that walked the face of the earth under the Abrahamic covenant could have paid the price if it were a physical death only. When He said ‘It is finished’ on that cross, He was not speaking of the plan of redemption. The plan of redemption had just begun; there were still three days and three nights to be gone through.”

Kenneth Copeland (What Happened from the Cross to the Throne, 1990, audiotape #02-0017, side 2)

“The Spirit of God spoke to me and He said, “Son, realize this. Now follow me in this and don’t let your tradition trip you up.” He said, “Think this way — a twice-born man whipped Satan in his own domain.” And I threw my Bible down… like that. I said, “What?” He said, “A born-again man defeated Satan, the firstborn of many brethren defeated him.” He said, “You are the very image, the very copy of that one.” I said, “Goodness, gracious sakes alive!” And I began to see what had gone on in there, and I said, “Well now you don’t mean, you couldn’t dare mean, that I could have done the same thing?” He said, “Oh yeah, if you’d had the knowledge of the Word of God that He did, you could have done the same thing, ’cause you’re a reborn man too.”

Kenneth Copeland (Substitution and Identification, 1989, tape #00-0202, side 2)
The church is in control, not God

“As a believer, you have a right to make commands in the name of Jesus. Each time you stand on the Word, you are commanding God to a certain extent because it is His Word.”

Kenneth Copeland (Our Covenant with God, 1987, p. 32)
God is banned from the earth until the church unleashes him/allows him in

“God’s on the outside looking in. He doesn’t have any legal entree into the earth. The thing don’t belong to Him. You see how sassy the Devil was in the presence of God in the book of Job? God said, “Where have you been?” Wasn’t any of God’s business. He [Satan] didn’t even have to answer if he didn’t want to … God didn’t argue with him a bit! You see, this is the position that God’s been in … Might say, “Well, if God’s running things He’s doing a lousy job of it.” He hadn’t been running ‘em, except when He’s just got, you know, a little bit of a chance.”

Kenneth Copeland (Image of God in You III, 1989, audiotape #01-1403, side 1)

“Here’s where we’re gonna depart from ordinary church: Now, you see, God is injecting His Word into the earth to produce this Jesus — these faith-filled words that framed the image that’s in Him … He can’t just walk onto the earth and say, “Let it be!” because He doesn’t have the right. He had to sneak it in here around the god of this world that was blockin’ every way that he possibly could.”

Kenneth Copeland (The Image of God in You III, 1989, audiotape #01-1403, side 2)

“The Bible says that God gave this earth to the sons of men … and when [Adam] turned and gave that dominion to Satan, look where it left God. If left Him on the outside looking in … He had no legal right to do anything about it, did He? … He had injected Himself illegally into the earth — what Satan had intended for Him to do was to fall for it — pull off an illegal act and turn the light off in God, and subordinate God to himself … He intended to get God into such a trap that He couldn’t get out.”

Kenneth Copeland (What Happened from the Cross to the Throne, 1990, audiotape #02-0017)

“Adam committed high treason, and at that point, all the dominion and authority God had given to him was handed over to Satan. Suddenly, God was on the outside looking in … After Adam’s fall, God found Himself in a peculiar position … God needed an avenue back into the earth … God laid out His proposition and Abram accepted it. It gave God access to the earth and gave man access to God … Technically, if God ever broke the Covenant, He would have to destroy Himself.”

Kenneth Copeland (Our Covenant with God, 1987, pp. 8-11)

“God had no avenue of lasting faith or moving in the earth. He had to have covenant with somebody. He had to be invited in, in other words, or He couldn’t come. God is on the outside looking in. In order to have any say so in the earth, He’s going to have to be in agreement with a man here.”

Kenneth Copeland (God’s Covenants With Man II, 1985, audiotape #01-4404, side 1)
These men think they’re Gods!

“Jesus is no longer the only begotten Son of God.”

Kenneth Copeland (Now We Are In Christ Jesus, 1980, p. 24)

“You are not a spiritual schizophrenic — half-God and half-Satan — you are all-God”?

Kenneth Copeland (Now We Are in Christ Jesus, 1980, p.16-17)

“You don’t have a god in you, you are one”

Kenneth Copeland (The Force of Love, 1987, audiotape #02-0028, side 1)

“I say this with all respect so that it don’t upset you too bad, but I say it anyway. When I read in the Bible where he [Jesus] says, ‘I Am,’ I just smile and say, ‘Yes, I Am, too!’”

Kenneth Copeland (Believer’s Voice of Victory, TBN July 9, 1987)

“Now Peter said by exceeding great and precious promises you become partakers of the divine class. All right, are we gods? We are a class of gods!”?

Kenneth Copeland (Praise The Lord, TBN February 5, 1986)

“Adam was created in God’s own image and likeness, a spirit-being…[and] takes on the nature of his spiritual father or lord.”?

Kenneth Copeland (Our Covenant with God, 1987, p.7-8)

“Gods reason for creating Adam was his desire to reproduce himself. I mean a reproduction of Himself. And in the Garden of Eden He did just that. He was not a little like God, He was not almost like God, He was not subordinate to God even … Adam was as much like God as you can get, just the same as Jesus. Adam in the Garden of Eden was God manifested in the flesh”

Kenneth Copeland (Following the faith of Abraham Audio, #01-3001 side 1)
The Anointing

“Believers are not to be led by logic,” he writes. “We are not even to be led by good sense”?

Kenneth Copeland (The Force of Faith, 7)

“You have the same creative faith and ability on the inside of you that God used when he created the heavens and the earth.”?

Kenneth Copeland (Inner Image of the Covenant, side 2)
The 100 fold theory

“Do you want a hundredfold return on your money? Give and let God multiply it back to you. He urges his supporters, “Invest heavily in God; the returns are staggering, … “Every man who invests in the Gospel has a right to expect the staggering return of one hundredfold.”?

Kenneth Copeland (Laws of Prosperity , pg.67)
The importance of earthly riches

“The basic principle of the Christian life is to know that God put our sin, sickness, disease, sorrow, grief, and poverty on Jesus at Calvary,” he asserts. “For Him to put any of this on us now would be a miscarriage of justice.”?

Kenneth Copeland (The Troublemaker, 6)

“Well, they say, you need balance in this, get out there in that hyper faith, that name-it-and-claim-it, that blab-it-and-grab-it. YEAH! We named it and claimed it and got it. (crowd cheers) Blabbed it and grabbed it and still got it ! Hallelujah! And our bills are paid.”

Kenneth Copeland (speaking at John Hagee’s Church, August 18, 1999)
Health is yours for the claiming

“You began to meditate on those scriptures until you built an inner image of yourself healed. As that image grew more crisp and clear, you began to expect — or hope for — that image to become a reality. Eventually, faith rose up, put substance to that internal image and turned it into an external reality. That spiritual process always works the same way. Hope forms the image according to the Word, then faith rises up and gives substance to that image, making it a reality in the natural, physical realm. … Actually, what you did is activate the scriptural process described in Hebrews 11:1 “Faith is the substance of things hoped for … Boil it down to its simplest form, and you could write it like this: God’s Word+Hope+Faith=Manifestation! … You’ll be expecting the very presence of God to rise up in you so powerfully that instead of believing for healing every six weeks, you’ll walk in divine health every day!”

Kenneth Copeland (“Expect The Glory”, Believer’s Voice of Victory magazine, January 1998, p. 5)

“… It wasn’t Peter’s shadow that healed them. What was it? That field of Glory that surrounded him. That’s what [sic] God put hope in you to expect. The Glory! … It will flood the earth when we meditate upon the Glory of God so much that hope rises up and produces an image. Then faith will release the Glory of God from the inside of us where we can’t see it to the outside where we can see it! … Does this sound wild to you? Well, it’s not! If you’ll go back and read the Bible, you’ll see that’s what Christianity is all about. God intended for the Body of Christ to walk through this earth with such a manifestation of His presence in our lives that it would either scare people spitless … or draw them into the Kingdom of God!”

Kenneth Copeland (“Expect The Glory”, Believer’s Voice of Victory magazine, January 1998, p. 6)
Results of lack of faith

“God cannot do anything for you apart or separate from faith,”?

Kenneth Copeland (Freedom from Fear, 1983, 11)
4th Dimension of non-carnal attainment

“Pray to yourself, because I’m in your self and you’re in My self. We are one Spirit, saith the Lord.”

Kenneth Copeland (“Believer’s Voice of Victory”, Feb. 1987, p.9)
The faith force

“Faith is a power force,” he claims. “It is a tangible force. It is a conductive force.”?

Kenneth Copeland (The Force of Faith, 1989, 10)

“Faith is a spiritual force….It is substance. Faith has the ability to effect natural substance.”?

Kenneth Copeland (Forces of the Recreated Human Spirit, 1982, 8)

“The force of gravity…makes the law of gravity work…this force of faith…makes the laws of the spirit world function.”?

Kenneth Copeland (The Laws of Prosperity, 1974, 18-19)

“Faith is God’s source of power”?

Kenneth Copeland (Forces of the Recreated Human Spirit, 1982, 8)

“Faith was the raw material substance that the Spirit of God used to form the universe.”?

Kenneth Copeland (Authority of the Believer II, 1987, audiotape #01-0302, side 1)

“The force of faith was controlling His (Jesus’) ministry.”?

Kenneth Copeland (The Force of Faith, 9)

“Man was created to know that great life force and he longs for it in his dreams. Adam had that life force in him before he committed high treason”?

Kenneth Copeland (What Happened from the Cross to the Throne, side 2)

“God did not create the world out of nothing, He used the Force of His Faith.”

Kenneth Copeland (pirit, Soul, & Body, #01-0601, Tape #1)

“Faith is God’s source of power”?

Kenneth Copeland (Freedom From Fear, 1983. p. 12)
Words are spiritual containers

“Words are spiritual containers,”?

Kenneth Copeland (Forces of the Recreated Human Spirit, 15; cf. 14)

The “force of faith is released by words.”?

Kenneth Copeland (Authority of the Believer II, 1987, audiotape #01-0302, side 1)

“God used words when He created the heaven and the earth….Each time God spoke, He released His faith — the creative power to bring His words to pass.”?

Kenneth Copeland (The Power of the Tongue, 1980, 4)

“As a born-again believer, you are equipped with the Word. You have the power of God at your disposal. By getting the Word deep into your spirit and speaking it boldly out your mouth, you release spiritual power to change things in the natural circumstances.”?

Kenneth Copeland (The Power of the Tongue, 1980, 15)

“Words create pictures, and pictures in your mind create words. And then the words come back out your mouth….And when that spiritual force comes out it is going to give substance to the image that’s on the inside of you. Aw, that’s that visualization stuff! Aw, that’s that New Age! No, New Age is trying to do this; and they’d get somewhat results out of it because this is spiritual law, brother.”

Kenneth Copeland (Believer’s Voice of Victory, TBN, March 28, 1991)

“Words are the most sacred things….This is a word planet…governed by words…created by words….Words cause it to function…cause life…cause death….Words go on forever….Words are holy.”?

Kenneth Copeland (The Abrahamic Covenant, side 1)
Sensual manifestations

“Everything that you’re able to see or touch, anything that you can feel, anything that’s perceptive to the five physical senses, was originally the faith of God, and was born in the substance of God’s faith.”

Kenneth Copeland (Spirit, Soul, & Body Part 1, 1985, audiotape #01-0601, side 1)
Above Reproach – testing their spirits

[Copeland claims Jesus told him personally in a vision:] “Don’t be disturbed when people put you down and speak harshly and roughly of you. They spoke that way of Me, should they not speak that way of you? The more you get to be like Me, the more they’re going to think that way of you. They crucified Me for claiming that I was God. But I didn’t claim I was God; I just claimed I walked with Him and He was in Me. Hallelujah. That’s what you’re doing.”

Kenneth Copeland (“Take Time To Pray,” Believer’s Voice of Victory 15, February 1987, 9)
God is the biggest failure in the bible

“I was shocked when I found out who the biggest failure in the Bible actually is…The biggest one in the whole Bible is God…I mean, He lost His top-ranking, most anointed angel; the first man He ever created; the first woman He ever created; the whole earth and all the fullness therein; a third of the angels, at least – that’s a big loss, man….Now, the reason you don’t think of God as a failure is He never said He’s a failure. And you’re not a failure till you say you’re one.”?

Kenneth Copeland (Praise-a-thon on Praise The Lord, April 1988)
Jesus was raped by Roman soldiers

“Let me tell you something folks. Anybody in here that’s ever been sexually abused, listen to me right now. Listen to me very carefully. The Bible’s very careful about the way it says these things. But down there in that dungeon, Romans, ungodly men, ungodly men, put Him (Jesus) to every kind of abuse that you can think of. There is no sin that Jesus didn’t bare. There is no thing, there is no such thing as a sexual abuse on somebody that Jesus doesn’t know firsthand what it’s all about. He’s been where you are. I don’t care what you’ve been through, Jesus has been through it. And everythings done to him that we couldn’t even speak of.”

Kenneth Copeland (The Resurrection Truth)
God’s physical description

“God spoke Adam into existence in authority with words. These words struck Adam’s body in the face. His body and God’s were exactly the same size.”

Kenneth Copeland (Holy Bible, Kenneth Copeland Reference Edition 1991, p. 45)

“If you stood Adam upside God, they look just exactly alike….If you stood Jesus and Adam side-by-side, they would look and act and sound exactly alike….The image is that they look just alike, but the likeness is that they act alike and they are alike….All of God’s attributes, all of God’s authority, all of God’s faith, all of God’s ability was invested in that man.”?

Kenneth Copeland (Authority of the Believer IV? 1987, audiotape #01-0304), side 1)

“The Bible said He measured the heavens with a 9 inch span. Now the span is the difference, distance between the end of the thumb and the end of the little Finger. And, and that Bible said, in fact the amplified translation translates the Hebrew text that way. That He measured out the heavens with a 9 inch span. Well, I got a ruler and measured mine, and my span’s 8 3/4 inches long. So now God’s span is a quarter of an inch, a quarter inch longer than mine. So you see, that faith didn’t come billowing out of some giant monster somewhere. It came out of the heart of a being that is very uncanny the way He’s very much like you and me. A being that stands somewhere around 6′ 2 “, 6′ 3″, that weighs somewhere in the neighbourhood of a couple of hundred pounds, little better, has a span of 8 and, I mean nine inches across – stood up and said “Light be [Let it be?]“, and this universe situated itself and went into motion. Glory to God.”

Kenneth Copeland (“pirit, Soul, & Body Part 1″ 1985, audio tape #01-0601, side 1)

God is a “spirit-being with a body, complete with eyes, and eyelids, ears, nostrils, a mouth, hands and fingers, and feet.”

Kenneth Copeland (Kenneth Copeland ministry letter, 21 July 1977)
The Womb-Man

“Adam was made in the image of God. He was as much female as he was male. He was exactly like God. Then God separated him and removed the female part. Woman means ‘man with the womb.’ Eve had as much authority as Adam did as long as they stayed together.”

Kenneth Copeland (Sensitivity of Heart, KCP Publications, 1984, p. 23)

“Then, he created Eve out of Adam. Now, actually God didn’t name her Eve, Adam named her Eve later. That wasn’t her name, her name was Adam … Adam. When God said Adam, they both came. Their authority was one and the same together. They did everything together. They had always been together. Even when she was still part of him, he was as much female as he was male, LIKE GOD IS. And God separated the female part of him and then put them back together. And she was Adam, they were Adam. He was the man, she was the woman. She was the man with the womb.”

Kenneth Copeland ((Transcribed From A Message Given By Kenneth Copeland, Paw Creek Ministries) )
God lives on the mother planet

“Heaven has a north and a south and an east and a west. Consequently, it must be a planet.”?

Kenneth Copeland (Following the Faith of Abraham I, 1989 audiotape, #01-3001, side 1)

“You don’t think earth was first, do you? Huh? Well, you don’t think that God made man in His image, and then made earth in some other image? There is not anything under this whole sun that’s new. Are you hearing what I’m saying? This is all a copy. It’s a copy of home. It’s a copy of the Mother Planet. Where God lives, He made a little one just like His and put us on it.”

Kenneth Copeland (Following the Faith of Abraham I, 1989 audiotape, #01-3001, side 1)
I have met and/or spoken to Jesus

(Relating Jesus speaking) “Don’t be disturbed when people put you down and speak harshly and roughly of you. They spoke that way of Me, should they not speak that way of you? The more you get to be like Me, the more they’re going to think that way of you. They crucified Me for claiming that I was God. But I didn’t claim I was God; I just claimed I walked with Him and that He was in Me. Hallelujah.”

Kenneth Copeland (“Take Time to Pray,” Believer’s Voice of Victory, February 1987, p. 9)
Research Links

* http://www.gospelcom.net/apologeticsindex/c53.html
* http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/copeland/general.htm
* http://www.letusreason.org/Wf19.htm
* http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/kcopeland.html

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Kenneth Copeland Says That ANYONE Could Have Died For Our Sins!

Posted by Job on September 18, 2007

Anyone could have redeemed us

“It wasn’t a physical death on the cross that paid the price for sin…anybody can do that.”?

Kenneth Copeland (What Satan Saw on the Day of Pentecost, audiotape #BCC-19, side 1)

“Every prophet that walked the face of the earth under the Abrahamic covenant could have paid the price if it were a physical death only. When He said ‘It is finished’ on that cross, He was not speaking of the plan of redemption. The plan of redemption had just begun; there were still three days and three nights to be gone through.”

Kenneth Copeland (What Happened from the Cross to the Throne, 1990, audiotape #02-0017, side 2)

“The Spirit of God spoke to me and He said, “Son, realize this. Now follow me in this and don’t let your tradition trip you up.” He said, “Think this way — a twice-born man whipped Satan in his own domain.” And I threw my Bible down… like that. I said, “What?” He said, “A born-again man defeated Satan, the firstborn of many brethren defeated him.” He said, “You are the very image, the very copy of that one.” I said, “Goodness, gracious sakes alive!” And I began to see what had gone on in there, and I said, “Well now you don’t mean, you couldn’t dare mean, that I could have done the same thing?” He said, “Oh yeah, if you’d had the knowledge of the Word of God that He did, you could have done the same thing, ’cause you’re a reborn man too.”

Kenneth Copeland (Substitution and Identification, 1989, tape #00-0202, side 2)

http://www.bereanfaith.com/heresy.php?action=aquote&id=7 

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Kenneth Copeland Says That God Is A Failure!

Posted by Job on September 18, 2007

God is the biggest failure in the bible

“I was shocked when I found out who the biggest failure in the Bible actually is…The biggest one in the whole Bible is God…I mean, He lost His top-ranking, most anointed angel; the first man He ever created; the first woman He ever created; the whole earth and all the fullness therein; a third of the angels, at least – that’s a big loss, man….Now, the reason you don’t think of God as a failure is He never said He’s a failure. And you’re not a failure till you say you’re one.”?

Kenneth Copeland (Praise-a-thon on Praise The Lord, April 1988)

http://www.bereanfaith.com/heresy.php?action=aquote&id=7 

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Kenneth Copeland Teaches That Jesus Christ Was Raped!

Posted by Job on September 18, 2007

Jesus was raped by Roman soldiers

“Let me tell you something folks. Anybody in here that’s ever been sexually abused, listen to me right now. Listen to me very carefully. The Bible’s very careful about the way it says these things. But down there in that dungeon, Romans, ungodly men, ungodly men, put Him (Jesus) to every kind of abuse that you can think of. There is no sin that Jesus didn’t bare. There is no thing, there is no such thing as a sexual abuse on somebody that Jesus doesn’t know firsthand what it’s all about. He’s been where you are. I don’t care what you’ve been through, Jesus has been through it. And everythings done to him that we couldn’t even speak of.”
Kenneth Copeland (The Resurrection Truth)

See link: http://www.bereanfaith.com/heresy.php?action=aquote&id=7 

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Beware The “Cleansing Stream” Theophostic Movement

Posted by Job on September 17, 2007

Update: The good folks at Spiritual Pathways Ministries say that this series will run daily thru Friday of this week!

 Apparently another attempt to syncretize Christianity with practices and philosophies borrowed from eastern religions, similar to the “Yahweh yoga” and “contemplative prayer” scams. If you see the website dedicated to this movement, theophostic.com/content.asp?ID=2#section2, it becomes self evident. What they are promoting really does remind me of the Scientology practice of auditing, but they have replaced their language with some Christianity and that of the mainstream pop psychology and New Age that has been popularized by people like Oprah Winfrey. The most revealing part is their long “do not try this at home, this ministry can only be performed by people with the proper training!” disclaimer. Of course, the Bible does not come with such warnings, and I have even heard testimonies from people that have started Christian churches and used by God to produce such mighty works as healings and prophesying (yes, I am an anti – cessationist charismatic and always will be) after possessing only a few books of the Bible (not even an entire New Testament!) or hearing a view Christian sermons over the radio.

The series of articles below from Spiritual Pathways Ministries (spm100.wordpress.com) links Council On Foreign Relations worker Rick Warren – surprise surprise – to this new movement, and also give us a new organization to monitor: the Christian and Missionary Alliance (cmalliance.org). Also, it appears that the good people from the most excellent Let Us Reason Ministries (letusreason.org/curren21.htm) are onto this movement.

Christians, the way to avoid getting deceived by these false doctrines and movements is to come to the cold hard realization that Christianity has been around for 2000 years. Further, the vast majority of Christians that have ever lived have practiced their faiths in the absence of our great wealth and modern technology and conveniences, and a great many also have practiced their faiths in the face of the possibility of legitimate persecution. Think of all the people, brilliant people indeed with the powerful anointing of the Holy Spirit, that have dedicated their entire lives to study of the Bible and to prayer? Even people who outwardly appeared to have been preoccupied with other things were actually living their lives completely dedicated to God. One of the things that you will never hear about Sir Isaac Newton in any public classroom, for instance, was that his scientific and intellectual inquiry had a thoroughly religious motive and a highly spiritual one at that. So the notion that after all this time someone is going to come along with a new doctrine, revelation, or practice that for some reason God chose to withhold from the church for all this time is absurd. Further, the root of it all is vanity, self – pride. We are so convinced that of all the Christians that have ever lived we alone have been blessed by God to receive some new thing to do some special work that no one else has gotten the favor or grace of God to do. The popular claim given is that “well this knowledge was withheld from the church in the past BUT SINCE THESE ARE THE LAST DAYS AND THE RETURN OF JESUS CHRIST WILL OBVIOUSLY HAPPEN IN OUR LIFETIMES GOD IS CAUSING THESE THINGS TO COME TO PAST.” Fine, except that nowhere in THE BIBLE does it say that there will be a multiplication of new doctrines and works. The Bible DOES SAY, however, that in the time before the return of Christ there will be a multiplication of FALSE teachers, preachers, and doctrines that will deceive many; a strong delusion that will cause the great falling away. Now a lot of folks are highly critical of things like the Brownsville Revival, the Pensacola Revival, the Toronto Blessing, and a great many other things associated with the charismatic movement. Their concerns may be legitimate, but at least those things purport to be restorationist: a return to the doctrines and practices of the New Testament. So, with these it is the responsibility of more mainstream Christians to prove them wrong according by that same New Testament, and if we cannot to leave them be. But there is no justification to follow after any doctrine or practice that was NEVER given in the Bible, because doing so is a clear rejection of God by telling Him that His Word and the Jesus Christ that was the Word Incarnate in flesh are not good enough for you. And since you reject The Word by going after these lies, you also reject the Father and blaspheme the Holy Spirit. Even misguided Christians that are trying to live and receive blessings according to things pertaining to the old covenant are better off that such persons as those, because at least it can be said of them that they are trying to stay within the pages of the Bible. But there is no excuse for being so prideful and vain as to believe that you are so special that God would give you anything spiritual that has been withheld from the church all of this time. Christians today are no better than Christians that have lived in any other time, and taking time to humble ourselves before God and to realize that end a great deal of the nonsense proliferating through our churches today. Now as to why so many Christians allow this nonsense to go on without speaking out against it? That is another question altogether.

James Sundquist on Theophostic Prayer- Introduction
Theophostic Prayer and Counseling by James Sundquist- Part One
Theophostic Prayer by James Sundquist- Part Two
Theophostic Counseling by James Sundquist- Part Three

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Is Your Pastor A Freemason? Are You?

Posted by Job on September 17, 2007

From Spiritual Pathways Ministries spm100.wordpress.com

Is Your Pastor A Freemason? Are You?

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The Main Question: Did I Choose God Or Did God Choose Me?

Posted by Job on September 15, 2007

That is the fundamental question that all who call themselves Christians must confront and reconcile. Your answer to this question totally controls your view of God, your view of world events, your view of yourself, and the behavior that results. Election or conscious choice? Predestination or free will? That is what it is all about. Take for instance the vexing issues of holiness, sanctification, and purity to the Christian. If you believe one way, then those things are clearly legalism through human actions. But if you believe the other way, those things are functions of faith, grace, and love. So then, which mindset makes one more likely to believe that they can bring about God’s favor and blessings into their lives with their own actions?

Though it may appear that I am leaning towards the “God chose me” side, what of “Galatians 3:6-Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” I have noticed the passive nature of that statement with regards to Abraham, as it does not say that Abraham BECAME righteous, but rather that the status was GIVEN to him through no merit or action of his own. And consider not only that his “righteousness” was an undeserved gift, but that he was still not truly righteous. He was only declared so by God because in spite of Abraham’s UNRIGHTEOUSNESS, his original sin, his sin nature, and his past/present/future sin, God still wanted to save him.

Fine, so God chose Abraham, and Abraham did not choose God. Right? But that still leaves begging the issue that IT WAS COUNTED TO HIM FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS BECAUSE ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD. Can I draw that inference? Or is it wrong? If I can, or even if I am wrong but the point is still worth weighing and bandying about, what would have happened had Abraham not believed God?

It is true, God came to Abram of God’s own initiative and told him to leave Haran to become the man to whom the promise of salvation would be given. True, Abram did nothing to merit or deserve God’s election in that matter. Still, Abram did have to leave his father’s house, idolatry, and Haran behind, did he not? What would have happened had Abram said no? Of course, God still would have proceeded with His redemption plan, as despite Catholics who claim that Jesus Christ would have never been born had their Virgin Mary idol said no (their way out of that conundrum is to claim that God KNEW that Virgin Mary would say yes because God foreknew of her righteousness from the foundation of the world, but you still have to consider the implications of their doctrine in this area), God is not dependent on or a function of man or any part of His creation in any way. But that does not answer the question with regards to Abraham: what if he had said no? What would have happened to his individual soul?

And then you have Romans 1:20-32. Do you realize that after all my years of attending church and watching preachers on TV, I only heard a preacher address that passage for the first time last week? Even better, I only became aware of the existence of this passage a few weeks prior by way of this excellent Bible commentary that I acquired and have been perusing as time permits. Had I known about Romans 1:20-32 (I read it as I have read the Bible completely several times, but only now retained and understood it) I would have never constructed this exceedingly long rambling bit of false doctrine FAITH DOES NOT COME BY HEARING for my original website that thankfully virtually no one ever visited despite my many efforts to attract people to it. (As to why I have not deleted the old website materials yet, the reason is that it is still expedient for me at this present time in my spiritual development to remember how bizarre my thinking was back when I was in by Word of Faith/prosperity doctrine/TBN syncophant phase.)

In any event, the main idea of Romans 1:20-32 appears to be that God freely offered Himself to all mankind, and that mankind rejected Him in order to chase after their own sinful hearts. So the same question reappears in a different from: where prior what if Abraham had said no, now it is what if mankind had said YES? While that might appear to be a more vexing problem, the solution is actually simpler: Matthew 20:16 and Matthew 22:14 both say that many are called but few are chosen. While it is dangerous to apply those or any scripture for that matter out of their immediate context (that is the intended meaning of those words to the intended audience both when and where Jesus Christ said them and Matthew wrote them) it is clear that no matter what happens when God calls you, SAVE GOD CALLS A PERSON THAT PERSON CANNOT BE SAVED! And that answers both the Galatians 3:6 and Romans 1:20-32 manifestations of the same question. If you focus on the fact that Abraham said yes, then you are man – centered in your doctrine, and that inevitably leads to having a man – pleasing religion. The same is true if you focus on mankind’s rejection of God in the beginning.

But if you instead focus on the fact that God gave an opportunity to Abraham and to the human race that they did not earn or deserve and that God had no obligation to give, then you are God – centered in your outlook. Instead of having a man – centered religion, you will have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ through grace. That is what God is offering you right now in the time and place of His choosing and on His terms. I urgently entreat you to accept His offer right now. Please follow The Three Step Salvation Plan!

And for those who have already accepted Christ, please remember that God chose you. Keeping that in remembrance should prevent you from living your life to please people, including yourself. It should cause you to reject doctrines and ministries that are centering around uplifting and glorifying people, including preachers that are famous because they make people feel good, usually by way of offering them ways to avoid responsibility for their actions, i.e. the very popular “no one has the right to judge!” notion that is very popular among many who claim to be Christ’s today, as well as the humanistic psychoanalytical navel gazing trends that allows you to blame everything on “issues in your past” (especially if you are female, which is an explanation for why women so outnumber men in the church, a problem that can be corrected by preaching the real gospel and demanding that BOTH SEXES live according to it).

God chose you because He loves you. But it is not a one way street: you have to love Him back! And the only way to love God that is given in scripture is to keep His Commandments. John 14:15 is the most important verse in the Bible when it comes to practical Christian living, yet it and its implications are hardly spoken of in the church today. If there is any ministry that claims to offer some other way for you to love, serve, worship, or get to know God than through complete obedience and trust in Him at all times in every facet of your life, you are following false doctrine from a false preacher and should leave NOW without looking back.

Jesus Christ reminded His disciples that they did not choose Him, but rather He chose they. And yes, one of the chosen included Judas Iscariot! Did Judas Iscariot believe? If so, did he obey? Those questions are unknown to history, and it is better that way. But person who calls yourself a Christian, never forget this: your notion of whether you chose God or God chose you could be the very thing that determines whether you are one of Judas Iscariot’s brethren, and whether it would have been better for you had you never been born. Think about that and what John 14:15 means in your life, now and henceforth.

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Paula White Claims That Jesus Christ Died In Vain!

Posted by Job on September 2, 2007

Out of all the disgusting, revolting false doctrine scams to raise money there is out there, the Paula White scam below is the absolute worst. What is it? The “atonement offering.” What was the atonement offering? Payment for our sins under Judaism. But Jesus Christ died for our sins once and forever! There is NOTHING that we can do to add to what Jesus Christ did on the cross. But by promoting the notion of an “atonement offering” which will cause God to bless you because it will make you more holy and righteous and acceptable in the eyes of God, Paula White makes the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross, nay the entire life and resurrection of Jesus Christ, null and void. According to this abomination of White’s, there is no Christianity. We are still living under the Old Covenant, because according to this nonsense there is an atonement offering other than Jesus Christ. Despite the Bible saying: Romans 5:11: And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. The Bible makes it clear: Jesus Christ is our only acceptable sin offering. If Paula White actually cared about the Jewish roots of the Christian faith, she would be talking about how the sacrifices, the feasts, the statues and art in the tabernacle and temple, etc. pointed to Jesus Christ. She would be talking about how pagan “Easter” is actually the Jewish Passover and how Jesus Christ was more likely born on (guess what!) the Day of Atonement than December 25. But she is not going to do that, because she is not interested in Christ or His people (see It Is OK To Celebrate Christmas). All Paula White wants is your money! Can’t you people see that?

You do realize that there is no turning back after an abomination like this? A person who calls himself or herself a preacher who does things like this is an apostate, a blasphemer, a heretic because they are denying the very Name and Way by which we are saved; they are denying the very deity of Jesus Christ and righteousness of God! These people are REPROBATES! WHY ARE YOU FOLLOWING THEM? I will give you the answer … either because you are deceived or because you are reprobates like they are. Which is it? Well, if you are reading this, then you are no longer deceived. If you read this and still follow them, then you are a reprobate on your way to an eternity in the lake of fire. And that is your problem – and White’s problem – not mine. Please see the link below where I received this information.

Paula White’s Atonement Offering is Bull and Has Gotten My Goat

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My thanks to Brother Rod for his creation of this title as I am not as good with words. Yet my words about this abomination that Paula has put on her website has nearly left me speechless. The Atonement Offering is not made for believers! It is found in Leviticus 16 and was never meant for money. Is she asking her followers to send her live animals such as the bull, goat, sheep, and ram instead? What can she be thinking?

Christ made atonement for our sins once on the cross! This money business is really getting out of hand. Prayer cloths, holy water, and now an Atonement Offering? Don’t these people ever take God at His word? “You CANNOT serve God and mammon” Matthew 6:24. What part of “cannot” does Paula not comprehend? “Your money perish with you, because you thought that the gift of God could be purchased with money! You have neither part nor portion in this matter, for your heart is not right in the sight of God. Repent, therefore, of this WICKEDNESS, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of your heart may be forgiven you” Acts 8:20-22.

Paula White does appear beautiful on the outside but Jesus would not care for her insides very much. “You are like whitewashed tombs which indeed appear beautiful outwardly BUT INSIDE ARE FULL OF ALL MEN’S DEAD BONES AND ALL UNCLEANNESS. Even so, you outwardly appear righteous to men, BUT INSIDE YOU ARE FULL OF HYPOCRISY AND LAWLESSNESS” Matthew 23:27-28.

By the way, if you click onto that picture to send her money it will do nothing as our ministry does not support making merchandise out of you!

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