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Gospel For Asia: Christian Charity Needed In Northwest India and Bangladesh

Posted by Job on January 9, 2008

Imagine having half
of your home collapse, your belongings washed away or your fields—your
only source of livelihood—completely destroyed. This is the situation
faced by thousands of people in Northwest India and Bangladesh right
now. In one area, Gospel for Asia missionaries are doing everything
they can to reach out to the people who suffered such devastation. They
recently gathered food for the needy and distributed it to 458 families
who lost their homes and belongings.

Click here to see a PhotoShow of the outreach

Your prayers and
gifts are making a difference, bringing food, comfort and hope to those
in total despair. I pray that you will be encouraged as you see all
that the Lord is doing because of your faithfulness.

Yours for the unreached,
K.P. Yohannan
K.P. Yohannan
Founder & President

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Gospel For Asia Asks For Help For Victims Of Bangladesh Cyclone!

Posted by Job on November 18, 2007

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The people of Bangladesh–including hundreds of our believers there–have been dealt another devastating blow and desperately need our prayers to sustain them.

Still recovering from the worst floods to hit their South Asian country in 30 years, Bangladesh was devastated by Cyclone Sidr on Thursday, leaving more than 2,000 people dead at last count. In some areas, 95 percent of the rice crop was destroyed. And for these simple farmers, that means they are literally penniless and without hope for the future.

That’s why our GFA native missionaries are already on the scene, ministering to the victims and bringing them the hope found only in Jesus.

But even as our missionaries, pastors and Compassion Services volunteers are moving to bring help to the victims, they have reported that in one district, more than 100 homes of GFA-related church families have been destroyed by the Category 4 storm–the most destructive to hit Bangladesh in a decade.

“Many people are thought to have been killed when trees fell on their houses,” reported one GFA observer.

I am asking that pastors around the world bring this situation to the attention of their church members on Sunday morning, and that all Christians will join me in praying that God’s grace will be poured out on those who have lost so much.

I also ask that you please pray with me about how God would use you to bring relief to the victims. Any gift you can send today will make a difference!

Please also remember our church members who are suffering as a result of this storm, and those who are working around the clock to bring relief in Christ’s name to the victims.

Thank you for standing with us as we minister to those whose lives have been so devastated. Click here to make a gift to help the victims of this storm.

Please pray with me that God will use this situation to bring many into His kingdom of grace and love. So that you can continue to pray with us, we will be bringing you updates on this situation in the coming days onwww.gfa.org

Yours for the lost of Asia,

K.P. Yohannan Founder & President

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Gospel For Asia Helping Flood Victims

Posted by Job on October 1, 2007

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Dozens of our Gospel for Asia native missionaries are reaching out to victims of India’s worst monsoon floods in more than 30 years.In one district in the Indian state of Assam alone, at least 50,000 people were impacted by the floods. Many of our friends like you have responded generously to bring the hope found in Jesus Christ to some of the millions who have lost everything in these floods. Yet until recently, it was impossible to even reach them because the rampaging waters had washed out roads and all avenues of communication.

As soon as it was possible, however, our missionaries who already work in Assam and other areas sprang into action. Working with GFA Compassion Services teams, they have already delivered relief supplies to three of the area’s hardest-hit villages. The missionaries and Compassion Services teams also took time to counsel with the people, hearing how they struggled to survive in the flood and its aftermath. The missionaries then shared the Gospel and prayed with the people.

Click here to see our first PhotoShow report about how our GFA Compassion Services relief teams are assisting the victims of the floods in Assam.

The people in these villages were deeply thankful that someone cared enough to come and help them. More than one told our team members that the relief supplies were a “real gift from God.”

Assam is just one of the states affected by the flooding rain that blanketed the region from late July to mid-August. There are thousands of families still in need of help, and we are committed to being there for the long haul. Just as in the wake of the tsunami and other disasters, GFA Compassion Services takes a phased approach to helping, with emergency relief the first step, then moving into longer-term ministry. Through all of the phases, the Good News of Jesus Christ is presented as the ultimate solution to the problems the people face.

And as in the past, God moves mightily among the people as they discover a hope they never thought possible.

GFA missionaries and local believers will continue reaching out to these victims. In many areas, outside groups are not allowed to come in and deliver aid to those who need it so badly. The missionaries, however, are free to work in these villages, because in most cases, they already have churches established nearby.

Thank you for standing with the people of Asia during this difficult time. Please continue to pray for them as they are facing many more months of rebuilding their villages and their lives.

Yours for the lost of Asia, K.P. Yohannan Founder & President gfa.org

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Pat Robertson FALSELY Calls Christian Persecution Our Greatest Threat!

Posted by Job on August 29, 2007

See this link: cbn.com/cbnnews/221156.aspx

As usual, Robertson has it all wrong. The Bible says for us to pay no heed to those that persecute us; indeed to pray for them that spitefully misuse us (see ccel.org/contrib/exec_outlines/fs/fs_09.htm). Also, Acts 5:40-41 shows us that the early church thanked God for their persecution! Jesus Christ said that if He was maltreated, should not we be so? Is the servant (us) greater than the master (Christ)? Facing persecution is evidence that we are actually serving God! The person who suffers persecution in God’s Name should thank God for it. The person who is suffering no persecution (or is suffering as a result not of God’s actions but his own) is the one that should seek God urgently, not for persecution, but so that such a person would have a relationship with God and learn how to obey Him, not for the persecution’s sake, but for God’s sake.

I talk about persecution on this weblog not for the “woe is us woe is us!” factor, but rather to show Christians what real Christianity is, and what real Christianity should be girding themselves up to expect both in this time and in the time of great sorrows to come. Now though I am a post – tribulationist and this is not to be taken as a direct criticism of pre – tribulationism itself, it is false teachers like Robertson in their pretending that Christian persecution is in any way exceptional – rather than something that is to be expected by the people of God living in a world that hates and has rejected God – that create the false image that Christians will be taken out of this world in the rapture before anything bad really happens to us.  So, in this respects, the notion of “God is going to come get us before anything really bad starts happening to us” is not the false doctrine of pre – tribulationism per se, because even the time leading up to and immediately preceding the seven official years of the great tribulation is supposed to be mighty terrible for Christians and everyone else, and Jesus Christ says this in Matthew 24 (which incidentally also makes it obvious that pre – tribulationism is false, see Correlating Don Imus, Christians, Blacks, Women, And The Rapture). But this notion that God has this obligation to save us before we Christians – especially the ones in the west that are used to freedom, wealth, and the pleasures and cares of the world – have to so much as get a hangnail is precisely the source of a lot of this false “Christian Zionism” doctrine preached by the likes of Robertson, John Hagee, and so many leading televangelists.

So unlike some people that take a much stronger view against pre – tribulation as in Mike Ratliff’s article What is the Great Delusion?, claiming that it is the problem itself, I take the view that it is people like Robertson that weave pre – tribulationism into the larger overall context of false doctrines that is the problem. And few are better at this than Robertson, who as usual, is playing on the fears and emotions of Christians.

So no, Christians, our greatest threat does NOT come from those that hate and persecute us, and that includes even the anti – Christ, the beast, the man of sin whom your tribulation doctrine denies that Christians will have to face. Instead, our greatest threat is INTERNAL, coming from those who traffic in false doctrines to serve the false god of mammon (money and power) like the billionaire Robertson (who has his malleable appointees all over the Bush administration Was Monica Goodling Taken Advantage Of By Pat Robertson and George Bush?) and Hagee, who is making a direct play for Robertson’s money and power (and see The Rapture Cult – Its Power, Influence and Secret agenda, though I do not endorse everything in it).

But do not let these false preachers scare you. If you have not accepted Jesus Christ as your personal savior follow the The Three Step Salvation Plan. If you have, then follow true Bible – based Christianity so that you will not be vulnerable to the deceptions of false preachers and teachers.

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To All Defenders Of Juanita Bynum, Benny Hinn, Joel Osteen, TD Jakes, And Other False Preachers: The Cult Of “Do Not Judge”

Posted by Job on August 23, 2007

Read: When They Pierced His Side: The Blood And Water Of Jesus Christ

This is courtesy of Brother Dennis Thompson. Brother Dennis Thompson and I do not agree on everything (see his comment and my response on spiritual warfare) but his comment on An Expose Of Just How Bad Juanita Bynum And Thomas Weeks Are to the many Juanita Bynum defenders on it called The Cult of”DO NOT JUDGE” was too outstanding to remain a mere response to a weblog post: it deserved the spotlight in its own right. Since an Internet search did not turn up the original document in a weblog or website, I will provide the text of Brother Thompson’s comments here. And if you are not saved through Jesus Christ, please follow The Three Step Salvation Plan so that you can be. Salvation can be yours today!

The cult of “Do not Judge”

This article is being written on behalf of all the ministries and people that defend the faith with the truth and are accused of judging because they test those who teach falsely with the Word of God.

The premise-Does God tell us not to judge?
The Bibles answer-No He does not.

John 7:24 Jesus says: “Do not judge according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment.” What Jesus does tell us is not to judge by our own opinions, but instead judge by the word of God, that is what it means to judge righteously. He always encouraged the people to judge. God told Israel to judge the prophets in the Old Testament. He had the true prophets judge the false but the people reacted saying the very same things people are saying today. Your being negative oh you never have anything good to say. In the New Testament we are told to judge prophecy, to discern, to test the spirits and we are told to test ALL things. We are told to do this because it helps keep us away from what is false and evil. The apostle Paul showed us how to judge so there would be no second guesswork. The apostle Paul said, “If anyone preaches another gospel let him be accursed” Would anyone say to Paul’s face “your judging.” In 2 Thess. 3:14-15 “And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.” Strong guidelines that many avoid to do today. These are done not to condemn but to bring repentance and restoration.

Lets let God decide whose right or wrong. Does this sound familiar? Except this particular statement was from a Muslim. But it can be anyone from any religion. Even Christians say we should not pursue a matter to find the truth. I realize that when one’s favorite teacher or leader is questioned the initial human response can be one of agitation and turn to over emotionalism. But when feelings do not subside and escalate into anger, rage, and maliciousness, it is not godly at all. Despite that they believe they have a cause to protect their teacher, it is not advantageous for anyone to have their emotions rule if they are trying to arrive at the truth.

There has been a trend going on for a number of years that has dulled the spiritual senses of the church and leavened the convictions of many a Christian. It has risen to new heights as of late where if anyone has anything to say about another they are told, “Don’t judge, “touch not my anointed” “do my prophets no harm” etc. Maybe if some of the people that quote these verses would look at what they actually say “in context,” they wouldn’t have such flawed arguments, they would not find themselves becoming entangled emotionally. Its not just finding a few words to prove a position, but what do they mean in the Scripture in its context and can they apply to us today.

What is ironic is that to tell people they are judgmental is to judge them. What people are doing is recommending for us not to judge by the word of God, but dispense with any discernment, just like they do it. Some even threaten and curse those who test because they cannot deal with the Scriptural proof presented to them. Christians are not to threaten or curse others because they disagree. Neither should they be warning that they are going to prayer, as though God will answer their prayer of vengeance and avenge the persons teaching that was examined and found false. The facts more often than not are; those who say not to judge are incredibly more judgmental then those they accuse of judging.

One person wrote, “Whether _______ is right or wrong is not up to you to discuss with anyone.” Lets look at this illogical statement. Now we can never discuss doctrine and peoples teachings. This means they too cannot discuss anything that they think, even if it is beneficial! But Heb.6:1-3 tells us we can discuss doctrine. “Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this we will do if God permits.” In other words many of these things should be settled, but there are many things that are not.

What I have found is very few challenge back quoting from the Bible to prove their position. Rarely do they say this person does not teach this or you misunderstood, he really means this. What they argue is just don’t test it, or don’t say this because I know such and such for years and they are doing great things for God. That’s judging isn’t it? And it is done by appearance. Then when this does not work they will respond by calling names and threatening people using Bible cliché’s as “don’t judge” “don’t touch God’s anointed,” “do my prophets no harm,” etc., all taken out of context. If they were to think biblically they would realize we are all anointed, not just some, and to come against another brother or sister that is trying to obey Scripture means they too are coming against God’s anointed. Everyone in the body of Christ is anointed; nonetheless what someone teaches is to be tested. How do we know this? Paul commended the Thessalonians for doing so, even when it was Paul himself that was being examined by Scripture (Acts 17:11).That is a right Spirit.

So many have been indoctrinated into the constraint of don’t say anything against another no matter how far off they are. Let God will deal with them. If this were true, then why are we given all the commands in Scripture to judge? Why all the warnings that deception and falsehood will permeate the Church in the end and we are to be on guard? We are told to deal with it and not allow it to continue. It’s not to say that we make mountains out of molehills, but some are already mountains that need to be moved. So lets speak to the mountain, speak to those who congregate at the foot of it and tell them.

We should take note, we all judge things all day: let me give some examples. When you sit down you make sure you’re comfortable, you’re judging whether or not you are comfortable. When you eat food at restaurant you judge whether it taste good or bad, and you judge the service you were given. When you bring your car to a mechanic you look for a good one and then you judge if he did a good job. When you buy a product you make sure it works as advertised. When you receive bills in the mail you judge whether they were recorded right. Even in conversations you judge whether someone is telling the truth. So we judge not only every day, but throughout the day. You can’t help but judge! All these things mentioned do not necessarily have an affect on your spiritual life. But the things that actually can affect your spiritual life people are saying, “don’t judge.” If ever a lie of the Devil was told this was it. When the Devil tempted Eve he hoped that she would not judge what he was saying with what God had already spoke. During the conversation (Gen.3) she began to challenge him by the word of God but he responded by bringing doubt on God’s word, saying “has God said?” By the time he was finished she believed the Devil over what God said. She didn’t judge, and instead she and Adam were judged!

What Has God said?
Jethro gave advice after seeing Moses was going to be burnt out on ruling. Moses responded in Deut. 1:15-18 “So I took the heads of your tribes, wise and knowledgeable men, and made them heads over you, leaders of thousands, leaders of hundreds, leaders of fifties, leaders of tens, and officers for your tribes. “Then I commanded your judges at that time, saying, ‘Hear the cases between your brethren, and judge righteously between a man and his brother or the stranger who is with him. ‘You shall not show partiality in judgment; you shall hear the small as well as the great; you shall not be afraid in any man’s presence, for the judgment is God’s. The case that is too hard for you, bring to me, and I will hear it.’ “And I commanded you at that time all the things which you should do.” This was the law to Israel and a principle of how they were to live. So they were to judge even the menial matters among themselves. This is made clearer in the New Testament about doctrine.

This is again repeated in Deut.16:18-19 “You shall appoint judges and officers in all your gates, which the LORD your God gives you, according to your tribes, and they shall judge the people with just judgment.” You shall not pervert justice; you shall not show partiality, nor take a bribe, for a bribe blinds the eyes of the wise and twists the words of the righteous.”

Why are some of the most drastic things said by famous people ignored, these scriptures show that it is because people are partial, loyal to the renowned, not caring if they are wrong or right. A bribe can be money or it can be other things such as promises or blessings that will be lost. The outcome is that it twists the words of the righteous when they are manipulated not to say the truth.

Judges 2:18-19 “And when the LORD raised up judges for them, the LORD was with the judge and delivered them out of the hand of their enemies all the days of the judge; for the LORD was moved to pity by their groaning because of those who oppressed them and harassed them. And it came to pass, when the judge was dead, that they reverted and behaved more corruptly than their fathers, by following other gods, to serve them and bow down to them. They did not cease from their own doings nor from their stubborn way.” The judges were to implement the commands from the word. Notice what happens when there is no judgment to decide what is right or wrong, the people do what they feel like and reap the consequences. The end of the book of judges it tells us what happened, every man did what was right in their own eyes (Judges 17:6, 21:25).

The judges were restored under Jehoshaphat king of Judah. 2 Chron.19:4-7 “So Jehoshaphat dwelt at Jerusalem; and he went out again among the people from Beersheba to the mountains of Ephraim, and brought them back to the LORD God of their fathers. Then he set judges in the land throughout all the fortified cities of Judah, city by city, and said to the judges, “Take heed to what you are doing, for you do not judge for man but for the LORD, who is with you in the judgment.” Now therefore, let the fear of the LORD be upon you; take care and do it, for there is no iniquity with the LORD our God, no partiality, nor taking of bribes.”

For even Asaph said in Ps. 82:1-4 “God stands in the congregation of the mighty; he judges among the gods. How long will you judge unjustly, and show partiality to the wicked? Selah “Defend the poor and fatherless; do justice to the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and needy; free them from the hand of the wicked.” People are defenseless from the wicked when they put aside judgment. Today there are many people that are abused by those who Lord it over them, by manipulation, by teachings and promises that never come true. If you have a heart of compassion you cannot just sit idly by while this takes place, even to those you may not know personally. It is being done to the body of Christ and the body of Christ needs to say something.

What did Jesus actually say on judging?
Protectors of false teachers will say Jesus said, “not to Judge,” quoting Matthew 7:1, therefore that we cannot “judge.” At first glance it appears that Jesus does forbid judging, but lets continue to read the passage. Matthew 7:1-5: “Judge not, that you be not judged.” For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.” And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?” Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye?” Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother’s eye.”

In other words you can judge as along as you are not doing the same thing. If you want to help another and have taken care of yourself in this area, then you are able to see and operate on your brother. Jesus does not say don’t operate under any circumstances, but allows us to remove the speck when we can see. But Jesus goes on and says in v:6: “Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.” What He is saying is that we need to make sure whom we are engaged with. When you try to correct someone with the Holy Word and they are haters of truth they will not receive the pearls and will turn on you. So we are to weigh out whom we give the Word of God out to.

Christ kept this theme throughout His ministry rebuking the people in Luke 12:55-57 “And when you see the south wind blow, you say, ‘There will be hot weather’; and there is.” Hypocrites! You can discern the face of the sky and of the earth, but how is it you do not discern this time? “Yes, and why, even of yourselves, do you not judge what is right?” This was said right after Jesus lectured on His coming, how it would bring division, not unity (Luke 12:56-57).

Jesus also said “Beware of false prophets!” (Matthew 7:15) this is a warning but comes as a command from our Lord. But how could we “beware” of “false prophets” unless we test what they say? Instead of obeying what Jesus said, some actually ignore this and support them. How? By saying, “don’t test it,” “don’t touch God’s anointed.” They do this because they have been taught “by them” not to question them. Loyalty and respect are good qualities but we cannot fall into the trap that because so and so was in ministry for 20-40 years or we know them personally that they can’t say something terribly wrong. True men of God are willing to be corrected from the Word, no matter who spoke a certain teaching or prophecy.

“Ye shall know them by their fruits,” Christ said (Matthew 7:16). In judging their “fruits,” we must judge by God’s Word. So what is fruit? Well to understand fruit we need to take a few steps backwards. The seed is the word of God, it is what gives us the new life. As it grows in us we mature until we become like a tree (Psalm 1), for a tree bears fruit. Christ is using a natural example of a spiritual principle– a mature tree bears fruit. If the seed is the word, than the tree and the roots of the tree must be of the word. So a good tree bears good fruit. The fruit can’t be good if it is not based on the word, in other words they need to have correct doctrine and teach right to have good fruit. This does not mean one is right on everything but they will hold to the core teachings and are consistent in these. They will not say one thing one time, and contradict themselves another time.

In the New Testament this statement sums up what Jesus meant on judging. In John 7:24 says: “Do not judge according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment.” Jesus is saying we can “judge” only do it correctly, not by what you see or hear but by the Word of truth. Just because you don’t want to judge does not mean you have the right to tell others not to. To accuse others of doing what the Bible tells us to do– is to judge without a righteous judgment.

Jesus said in John 5:30 “I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.” To seek God’s will in a matter is to go to Scripture to see what he says on something. Jesus had perfect judgment because he heard from the Father. He also delivered this word to us and says it is not only His Word but the Fathers (Jn.14:24). So if the Word of God is used correctly it is not you or I judging but God, therefore it becomes a righteous judgment.

Jesus again made it clear how to judge unrighteously “You judge according to the flesh; I judge no one. “And yet if I do judge, My judgment is true; for I am not alone, but I am with the Father who sent Me” (John 8:15-16). Jesus did not judge by appearances, He was able to know the heart. While we do not have the same ability, He has given us directions on how we can judge and be accurate in it. A crooked stick by itself may not show that it is bent, but it will always be seen as crooked when laid next to the straight stick of the word.

Paul wrote in Phil. 3:15-17 “Therefore let us, as many as are mature, have this mind; and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal even this to you. Nevertheless, to the degree that we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule let us be of the same mind. Brethren, join in following my example, and note those who so walk, as you have us for a pattern.” Paul used himself and the other apostles as our physical examples in everything. Paul could not deal individually with the many false teachers springing up like weeds in the different areas. Paul said to follow his example as he followed Christ. Christ openly showed what is false, so did Paul, and so did the other apostles. Much of the New Testament was written to publicly correct false teaching within the Church itself. Every second epistle written by an apostle is for correction or judging false doctrine. In 2 Timothy 4:10, Paul judges and warns about a man named Demas. Later in the same epistle (2:17) he warns of the heresies of two others naming them. Paul did a lot of judging and warning when it came to false teachers that could influence the church, because he cared. What if Paul didn’t judge and allowed Alexander to continue teaching, what if Peter let Simon Magus stay in the Church? Think it through!

We also have permission to judge false doctrine, and those who really care do so.

What about love?
John the Baptist called both the Pharisees and Sadducees “a generation of Vipers” (snakes) (Matt. 3:7), he rebuked Herod the king. Today, he would be accused of being unloving, unkind, no respect for leaders and most of all un-Christian. Jesus and Paul would also be accused of being judgmental if one would examine what they actually said. I believe God has been training the Church to recognize error and deception because the real deception that could deceive the elect may be just around the corner. If you can’t judge today’s falsehood you will certainly be unable to tomorrow when things escalate. Is it now unloving to stop someone from going over cliff when you already know where the road ends.

How else do you protect the sheep if you do not speak out? Let me give a simple example: If someone is selling a false product in your city and numerous people are buying it and becoming sick. What would you do? What if you tried to go to the manufacturer but he would not meet with you because he is an important man in the community and you are not? Do you keep silent and just let it go or is it your duty to let others know? James says not to do something you know is right is sin. So you are sinning if you have any idea it could be wrong. Here in lies the problem, the people who say don’t judge do this for protection of their teachers. But they will often admit that they know there are things wrong, but they have not come to the conclusion of how wrong it is.

The Apostle Paul also writes: “And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all discernment (judgment) that you may approve things that are excellent in God’s sight.” It is this same love that he applies to Eph. 4:14-15 “that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head-Christ” This truth would be the word that would challenge the words from deceivers who are deceived and affecting the body with “winds of doctrine.”

We are to identify certain people for the brethren’s own safety. We are to identify false teachers for the purpose of protecting the sheep in Christ’s Church, and we certainly don’t need to apologize for this. We are our brothers keeper. This love is a discriminating love, a love that cares enough for others and is not concerned with what people think of you, especially when you know that you are right from the Word.

Hanging with people who teach falsely will rub off on you, the cliché for self protection “touch not my anointed” becomes “let it be,” it is grinded into the followers and moaned by them toward those who have anything to say about their favorite teachers. One needs to hear both sides before they can make a just decision. Find the proof that what they teach is from the Bible and not from their own imagination of what they think the Bible says.

Lets look at what those who say not to judge are actually saying the Word of God states, next to what the Word of God actually says.

Those who say “Don’t judge- 1 Thess. 5:21-22 “Don’t Test all things; hold fast what is good. Abstain from every form of evil.”

The BIBLE-1Thess. 5:21-22 “Test all things; hold fast what is good. Abstain from every form of evil.”

Is it evil to test-NO it is not! We are told to test ALL things, not just pick and choose what and when to test. Now this does not mean we become the judge and jury or walk around with a critical eye on everything. It means we are to be sober and vigilant and not take for granted that everything said is the Gospel.

Those who say “Don’t judge- I John 4:1-3 “Beloved, do believe every spirit, don’t test the spirits, whether they are of God”

The BIBLE- I John 4:1-3 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.

“Do my prophets no harm.” Meant not to lay hands on them. False prophets were to be rejected and stoned in the Old Testament (Deut.18:20). Instead , Israel killed the true prophets (Mt.23:35-37). No one is laying hands on anyone today. The Bible tells us to judge prophets. 1 Cor. 14:29 “Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others judge.” It does not just say let only the other prophets judge, but the “others.” These others may have the gift of prophecy or those gifted in the word and Spirit. This would also relate to 1 Cor.12:10 which tells us one of the gifts of the Spirit is a discerning of spirits. (judging, determining what is from God or not). Exactly what John writes in I John 4:1-3 “Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God” Here again we are told to judge, and in this case it could mean the whole congregation. The “discerning of spirits” is probably the most needed gift in the end times where Jesus said many false prophets and teachers would be around us. When there is a need God raises up a standard. As Paul continues to write “the spirit of the prophets are subject to the prophets.” This does not mean we turn over a meeting to false prophets to validate the prior false prophets that spoke. Today we have a repetition of the error of the people in Jeremiah’s time “An astonishing and horrible thing has been committed in the land: The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests rule by their own power; and My people love to have it so. But what will you do in the end?” (Jer. 5:30-31) He asks a question that we need to answer today. What will you do?

No person is to be prevented from the right of investigating and comparing with the Bible what is said. Who would desire to prohibit the people from a full and free examination of what is said? Certainly it would not be God who tells us to judge in the Word. The guideline of testing and judging stresses the importance of truth being accepted and error being rejected. It gives accountability for what one says as a teacher to many people, this reduces the margin of error spread to the people.

Believers are not to avoid judging, just avoid judging with a final condemnation (the eternal destiny of someone). This word judge (Greek-krino) is used over 80 times in the New Testament and it means to call in question, discern, conclude, decree, and determine. The meaning does not mean to condemn in judgment; the context shows we are responsible to correctly evaluate a thing or an act. It does not mean to glean the truth and ignore the false because their good outweighs the bad. We cannot always judge someone’s motives, only God has this kind ability. We are commanded to judge what they spoke, their teachings. God is the ultimate judge on eternal life but we the church are to be keepers of the truth, to do this one must test what is said and reject falsehood.

Heb. 5:12-14 “For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food. For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe. But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.”

The author tells us that believers who are “mature,” are those who have trained themselves to exercise judgment, to discern between good and evil through the Word, not by feelings. That is judging; those who do not judge are babes in the word. One of the ways to show you are spiritually mature is to seek out a matter on its own without being persuaded by public opinions or the status of a person. People today often trust a person’s position or fame more than the Holy Spirits discernment given in the Word. Error can only be seen as error only when it is measured against the truth. This means judging. If you accept anything everyone says because of who they are you are just a sponge that will soak up both the good and the bad equally. Then the only way we can get rid of the bad is for God to wring it out of you. That is not always a pleasant experience.

When we ignore the false we are helping the devil’s cause because the truth becomes hidden. The Devil hates the truth because it exposes anything that is false: sometimes it is well hidden. Jesus warned us that false prophets and false disciples would arise and He told us how to know the difference. When somebody says that you are judging, they are wrong, we are inspecting the fruit that comes from the tree and we are told to do so. When we decide what someone is teaching is wrong by the Word that is not our judgment but God’s. But if we decide simply by loyalty and allegiance this does not prove it is true and it becomes what Jesus called judging by appearance.

Attacks without a biblical case– without the facts proves that one is relying on their feelings and having blind loyalty. One needs to make a case from the Bible or they become guilty of the very thing they accuse others of. Proverbs tells us to hear both sides of a matter before we make a decision.

When sheep follow sheep instead of the shepherd they will reap the consequences. It’s well known that sheep are some of the dumbest animals on God’s green earth, you and I both are not as smart as we think we are. Peter quotes Isa.53 “For you were like sheep going astray, but have now returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls (1 Pet. 2:25). Matt. 9:36 “But when he (Jesus) saw the multitudes, he was moved with compassion on them, because they fainted, and were scattered abroad, as sheep having no shepherd.” There are some Christians that confess Jesus as their Lord but instead of him being their shepherd they allow other men to lead them, they listen to their voice telling them what God has said. Certainly God has appointed teachers in the body of Christ, but no one is above scrutiny. Jesus said “But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you. “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me” (John 10:26-27). We see this in cults where what the leader of the group says becomes more important than what the Scriptures say. People listen to other men’s interpretation and what “they say God said” without ever going to Scripture to see if it is true. Lets make sure we are listening to the shepherds voice and not another’s.

What we are not to judge?
These are just a few things to think about. Col 2:16 “So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or Sabbaths.”

We are to avoid judgment on days of worship and food lest we stumble someone. Rom 14:10-15 “But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written: “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to Me, and every tongue shall confess to God.” So then each of us shall give account of himself to God. Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother’s way. I know and am convinced by the Lord Jesus that there is nothing unclean of itself; but to him who considers anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean. Yet if your brother is grieved because of your food, you are no longer walking in love. Do not destroy with your food the one for whom Christ died.” The point Paul is making is not to stumble a brother or sister by your freedom from the Old Testament law. But to allow false teaching to freely take place would be to stumble them.

Conclusion
Why do I call this movement of “do not judge” a cult? Because for the most part they follow there leaders advice and not the shepherd of their souls. They are not thinking, as the Bible tells us “to test ALL things.” Many are not being taught to think, instead they have been taught what to think. I know this may be harsh to some, but its telling it straight. When we willfully do what we are told, without our checking it out ourselves, we become like the cults. Those who do not judge teaching are actually disobeying what the Bible tells us to do. And they are telling others to do the same, sometimes by intimidation.

The early church was apologetic and polemic. They contended for the faith to those outside and had to do the same inside. If we do not take up this same attitude that is clearly presented in the Scriptures, we will be leavened beyond belief. Many of us see this as a very dangerous trend going on inside the Church. It needs to stop and we need to get back to what the Bible actually says.

2 John 10-11: “If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed. For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.” It may not say the word judge or test but its obvious one must do so to know there is a difference in doctrine. And it is in this “spirit of the text” many other Scriptures are written. Paul writes to Titus about the insubordinate, idle talkers and deceivers “Wherefore rebuke them sharply that they may be sound in the faith” (Titus 1:13).

Jesus commended those who judged to arrive at the truth, “I know that you cannot tolerate wicked men, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false” (Revelation 2:2). All the apostles approved judging those who claimed leadership positions.

Paul wrote Timothy who was new to the ministry “I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom: Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry” (2 Tim. 4:1-5).

What afflictions is he talking about? Those who came against Timothy in doing things that are required of God. What things? Convincing, rebuking, and exhorting those who have turned from the truth, God’s word.. If you are one who has learned to discern truth from error, continue to do so, don’t be intimidated. If you have been called to be a watchman and God has given you discernment, use it and don’t let anyone discourage or threaten you, fulfill your ministry.

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Flooding Kills 2000 In India, Bangladesh and Nepal: Please Help!

Posted by Job on August 17, 2007

From http://gfa.org This is one of the rare times that I am saying that Gospel for Asia desperately needs your financial help quickly. But I feel that I must, and ask that you pray seriously about helping. This truly is an emergency situation.

As I wrote to you yesterday, more than 2,000 people have died in the record monsoon floods across eastern India, Bangladesh and Nepal. Literally millions have been left without homes, and their subsistence farms are under water in the worst flooding in 30 years.

Now, just this morning, I received a report from one particular area that brings this terrible situation closer to home. Our senior leader in Assam called to tell me that 4,000 homes in his area have been washed away. When he told me that over the phone, I was just silent for a moment. I could not imagine four thousand homes destroyed by floods in one place.

Then he made it even more personal–he said that 35 of our believers’ homes among the Mising tribe have been been destroyed. Not only that, but 10 of our pastors and their families are also now homeless, and four of our churches have been washed away by the rampaging waters.

You can click this link to make an immediate gift.  gfa.org/flood-relief-donation

We know the numbers in this disaster are going to increase, because many other believers have had their homes damaged, and some of our other 92 churches among the 3.5 million Mising people have suffered damage as well. So there will be reconstruction needs in the future.

But our immediate concern is for those who have lost everything–not only among our believers, but among all who are suffering because of the floods.

So far, 15 people among the Mising have died from the flood waters, and another 50 have died from the diseases that are now spreading because of the unsanitary conditions. This is a “mini-tsunami” in terms of suffering.  And our response must be rapid.

That’s why, in the midst of all this suffering, our GFA missionaries, pastors and believers are already ministering to those around them in the name of Jesus–bringing them what physical and emotional relief they can, while sharing with them the only true hope that can be found in times like these–Christ. But obviously they need our help, because they have little left to share themselves.

My friend, today we–and they–need your immediate help. You can make a gift to bring relief and hope to those who have lost everything by clicking this link: gfa.org/flood-relief-donation

Please understand, this report I am sharing with you today is just the first of many we will be receiving as the scope of this disaster continues to grow.

So I ask you today to help our GFA missionaries, pastors and believers who are at this moment caring for the suffering all around them with your gift that says you, too, want to reach out with love in the name of Jesus.

And what an opportunity! While 98 percent of the Mising are not Christians, now we can reach out, relieve their suffering and let them know that while their old life has been washed away in a flood, God is offering them a new life that will last forever.

Again, this link will take you to our site where you can make a difference in the lives of those who are suffering so terribly, including our Christian brothers and sisters among the Mising tribe. gfa.org/flood -relief-donation

Thank you for your love and compassion.

For the suffering in Asia,

K.P. Yohannan Founder and President Gospel for Asia

P.S. Click this link to read more about the monsoon floods in Asia. gfa.org/gfa-flood-relief-2007

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Rick Warren And Other Emergent “Christians” Support Harry Potter

Posted by Job on August 14, 2007

Link To Dr. James Emery White’s Crosswalk.com’s Weblog Entry “Mad About Harry”

This shows how many so – called Christians are not, including J. K. Rowling herself, a member of the Church of Scotland. This fellow claims that Harry Potter has a “Christian worldview.” Sounds like these NONEXISTENT Christian values (see Christian Values Do Not Exist and Christian Values Do Not Exist Part II: The Motivation For Believing A Lie) to me, and yet another reason why true Christians should contend against this anti – Christ concept, because the more worldly the church gets the more heresies and abominations will be able to masquerade as “good Christian values” and “good Christian worldview.”

Then again, the “emergent” and “contemplative” Christians are supporting witchcraft already. See HERETIC TD JAKES ENDORSES YOGA AND CONTEMPLATIVE PRAYER! as well as my emergent church  and contemplative prayer categories. Now I do not do as good a job of documenting the wickedness of this movement as does people like Apprising Ministries (and this is a good link on his site as well), and Christian Research Network/Slice Of Laodicea (the people who first let me know that TD Jakes denied Trinity and LIED ABOUT IT).

There really does seem to be a huge movement out there dedicated to opposing, denying, and undermining what is left of Bible – based Christianity is from the inside: the oneness pentecostals on one side with the charismatic movement and the emergents on the other side with the Southern Baptists and other fundamentalists. You have Brian McLaren and similar denying that Christ died for our sins,  and a whole multitude of false charismatics who deny the very Trinity doctrine that allowed God the Son to bear our sins on earth while God the Father was able to remain separated from them and turn His face in Heaven. So, this proves that the wide embrace of Harry Potter and other wickedness by mainstream Christianity is proof that such things are only symptoms of much larger doctrinal issues.

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Pat Robertson Promoting The Chinese Government

Posted by Job on August 13, 2007

A few years back, Pat Robertson endorsed the Chinese policy of forced abortions. Just last year, Robertson spoke of how gracious the Chinese were for allowing CBN access to their airwaves, and actually claimed that God was dealing directly with the Chinese before He did so with the people of Abraham. Now, here is this article, where Robertson claims that revival is happening in China. Realize that China is doing all they can to keep the horrible crimes committed by their godless regime – including but not limited to its shameful persecution of Christians – out of the public eye while they use the Olympics as a Potemkin commercial for their godless statism. So, you had Rick Warren carrying water for Syria and North Korea, now Pat Robertson is doing the same for China. Further, Robertson supports the Bush administration DESPITE Bush’s dedicated support of China. Then again, since billionaire Pat Robertson has myriad business ventures overseas, it might be because of it. Please see this atrocious link.

Seven days a week, the machines at the Nanjing Amity Printing Company churn out copies of what some claim is one of China’s best-selling books – the Bible. Forty-three million Bibles have been printed legally in Communist China since 1987. Once a banned book, today some 3 million copies are printed and distributed each year across the country.

And this year, Chinese Christian leaders are hoping to print a special edition of the Bible to make available to the hundreds of thousands of athletes and visitors expected to attend next year’s Olympic Games. Dr. Cao Shengjie of China Christian council oversees the printing of Bibles in China. He said, “And so for this very important occasion, we hope we can print a special edition, maybe the four Gospels in English and Chinese, bilingual.”

Lui Bainian, a top leader of China’s officially sanctioned Catholic organization, wants to take it a step further and place these Bibles in some of the major hotels in Beijing. “I want our visitors to know that we have religious freedom here and this is a small step to meet their religious needs during the Olympic,” Bainian said. The Chinese capital has hundreds of hotels. One of the biggest in town, the Minzu hotel, is entertaining the idea of making the Bibles available to Olympic guests.

“We are doing our preparations and once we know where our guests are coming from, we will be ready to meet their spiritual needs,” Minzu Hotel General Manager Chen Guoyao said. The Beijing Olympic Committee is also getting religious. It plans to provide Buddhist, Christian, Hindu, Jewish, and Muslim services. “I think the needs of various religious groups will be taken into consideration and as a matter of fact, for example, inside the Olympic Village, we are going to set up a religious service center,” Sun Weide, deputy director of communications for the Beijing Olympic committee said.

Shengjie says it is important for people outside of China, especially Christians, to know the real situation of Christianity in China. “I think the Olympics is a good opportunity because so many people will come from all over the world. And so they can come and see with their own eyes,” he said. And what they will see is a China that’s experiencing unprecedented religious fervor. When athletes and visitors arrive in Beijing next year for the Olympic Games, they will find a city and a nation in the middle of what some are calling a spiritual awakening.

Despite the government’s official doctrine of atheism, millions of Chinese are turning to religion. (The reason why is because communist governments have acknowledged that if they prohibit faith, it will only make the people even more zealous and willing to agititate against the regime. So, rather than making the same mistake that the Soviet Union and other Marxist regimes did, statist regimes are now co – opting religion, knowing that doing so will actually increase their power. Vladimir Putin, for instance, is using the Russian Orthodox Church for his own ends, including keeping the Through The Bible radio ministry off Russian airwaves.)

And as Pat Robertson says, “It’s not China our enemy, it’s China our friend.”  Watch the video above for the complete report followed by Robertson’s prayer for China. (Please note, the bold and the italics appear in the original article: I DID NOT ADD IT!)

“People now feel more freer, more open to express their religious convictions,” said Tong Shijun, professor of philosophy at East China Normal University. (That is the ticket, make them THINK that they have more freedoms so that they will not oppose the regime, while the state is still in control through their regulation of religious life.)Tong Shijun teaches at a prominent university in Shanghai. He’s just completed the first major survey on religious beliefs in China. And according to his findings, 31.4 percent of those surveyed said they were religious – putting the number of believers in China at about 300 million.

“The increase of the number and the increase of the percentage was quiet large,” Shijun said. “Quite dramatic.” Christianity is also growing fast. Twelve percent, or 40 million people, described themselves in the poll as followers of Christianity, much higher than official figures given by the Chinese government. (The reason why is that attending any church outside of the churches regulated by the Chinese government is ILLEGAL. The Chinese government even appoints Catholic bishops to peddle their propaganda in their nation, similar to how the Roman government used to appoint Sadducees as high priests during the time of Jesus Christ.)

What is fueling these conversions? Chinese experts say that a growing number of people are turning to religion to better cope with the country’s rapid social and economic changes. (And like all satanic state churches, China is just fine with people becoming Christian for any reason OTHER than to accept and spread the gospel, because that is what Satan desires. Since Pat Robertson is obviously fine with this too, it is clear whose side on the war between Jesus Christ and Satan he is on.)

Molly Fung works in Beijing’s financial district. She recently started going to church. She said she wanted God to give her strength to deal with the pressures of life. “I think that when I am stronger, I can help others, my friends and my family and tell them how to deal with the pressures,” she said. (Helping people make Jesus Christ their personal savior so that they can be freed from sin and death and go to heaven? Apparently that is not part of the agenda.) He Hong is an economics student in Shanghai who recently spent an afternoon at a local Christian bookstore. “Today in our country, more and more people, especially the young people have a yearning for spirituality” Hong, a Shanghai university student, explained. “So many of my friends feel empty in their hearts. We feel so much pressure to get a job, have a better education.”According to Shengjie, so many of them are turning up at church looking for answers. (And the Chinese government says “If false Christianity motivates you to work harder for longer hours for less pay, then we’re fine with that. And since these same Chinese “Christians” would obviously use their money to support Pat Robertson’s financial empire, he is fine with it too. And have you noticed that where Robertson used to be fundamentalist his doctrine has been trending more and more towards prosperity lately?)

“People can easily think that to have a better living and to earn more money is the goal of life but the church, we will tell people that the man does not live by bread alone, we need the Word of God,” Shengjie said.

Buddhism, Taoism, and other religions are also experiencing growth. Shijun believes that the government is starting to recognize the role religion could play in society.

“In the last couple of decades the situation is that religious life is recognized to have a positive role in society, generally speaking, as long as these religious groups abide by the national and local laws,” he said.

Strict limitations on religion remain, however. For example, China only recognizes government registered churches and considers unregistered house churches illegal.  (The only reference to the actual situation in China, and they do their best to A) bury it and B) portray it in the best possible context, a far cry from how Robertson treats the issue of Christian persecution in nations where he does not have substantial business dealings with the governments.)

Still Chinese Christian leaders hope next year’s Olympic Games will be an opportunity to showcase China’s diverse and growing religious tapestry. (If by that you mean keep the U.N. and western financial interests from threatening boycotts and sanctions over their persecution of legitimate religious groups rather than state – controlled ones, sure that is what they want, and Pat Robertson is helping.) “Our expectation is to have more friendship and fellowship,” Shengjie said.

Pat Robertson’s CBN empire may produce some decent children’s entertainment now and then – yes Superbook and The Flying House are great, although their newer stuff, while having better production values, are very thin theologically – but now that his business and political interests are dictating his theological positions, it is time to put him in the false preacher category. I wonder if these Sun Myung Moon Council On Foreign Relations/Center For National Policy hooks that are into Robertson and so many of these other leading Christian evangelists are far deeper than we previously thought. And oh look … Ralph Reed lobbies for China also! Christians, we must stay true to the Bible, and that means opposing these false preachers and liars on the religious right as well as those in the religious left.

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James Dobson: Do Not Vote For McCain Or Giuliani But Romney Is Still On The List!

Posted by Job on July 18, 2007


Now I can see his problem with pro – homosexual pro – abortion Rudy Giuliani (though it is fair to point out that Mitt Romney had those same positions until, oh, yesterday). But what does he have against McCain? You know the answer to that, don’t you? GOP party politics. Dobson would rather have a Mormon with no record of social conservatism in his political or business or philanthropic career (no huge donations to Operation Save America from that private fortune of his) than a Christian (yes, McCain is a Christian, though not fundamentalist or evangelical) with a long socially conservative voting record (McCain did not vote for the gay marriage amendment, but in doing so his position was no different from that of George Bush or Dick Cheney … Bush only gave lukewarm transparent vocal support to the amendment when it was made clear to him that he would lose re – election in 2004 without it). Why? Because McCain ran against Bush and bucked the GOP party line. Even with McCain’s turn left in recent years and Romney’s turn right in the past few minutes, Romney’s record is still far to the left of McCain’s … remember that healthcare bill that he signed? This proves that Dobson when you get down to it is just another establishment GOP party hack. Oh yes, and let us not forget about the faith – based money: Romney doled out tons of taxpayer dollars to religious groups during his tenure. McCain, despite his brief strange association with the self – deluded and now disillusioned Gary Bauer (another religious right guy who accepted money from Syung Moon), opposes that sort of thing. Money: faith based programs, some of which would no doubt flow to Dobson’s many interests, and that was the also the same reason why Pat Robertson backed Bush and why he is also backing Romney, a person who believes in this (see link) and calls himself a Christian. Power: control over the GOP. That is what it is all about people: mammon.

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Mitt Romney Show Me Your Magic Mormon Underwear!

Posted by Job on June 22, 2007

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“Mr. Romney, show me your underwear!”  When asked about my recent statement
that ” a vote for Romney is a vote for satan,” Romney through his spokesman
replied, “”It shows that bigotry from time to time can still rear its ugly
head in society.”  The game in 2007 is to label anyone who has the audacity
to bring a Biblical worldview to the issues of the day as “hateful,”
“intolerant,” “a bigot,” or other names to try and discount what they say
and silence them.  Since Mr. Romney wants to try and dismiss me as simply a
“bigot,” I am publicly challenging him today to take off his jacket, open up
his shirt, and let the world see that as a “temple Mormon” and high priest
in this satanic cult he wears under his clothes literally 24/7 the sacred
undergarments of the priesthood given to him in the Temple ritual that bear
the emblems of SATAN’S POWER AND PRIESTHOODS!

(  I was actually able to get a pair of the “magical underwear” as they are
often referred to, and wore them on the Liveprayer TV program Thursday
night, June 21st!  To see that program, go to:
http://www.liveprayer.com/archives.cfm   )

For my new friend Barry Lynn of Americans United for Separation of Church
and State, like my previous message on how “a vote for Romney is a vote for
satan,” this message today has NOTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS, this is about
the eternal souls of men.  I have never told people who to or not to vote
for.  That is not what I do.  While your mission in life is to oppose the
work of God and watch people die and go to hell, my mission is to bring His
Truth to this dark world and lead people to everlasting life though faith in
Jesus Christ.

Mr. Romney, like all members of his satanic cult, is a LIAR!  He goes out on
the campaign trail and talks about his belief in God, Jesus, and the Bible,
and that he is just like any other Christian.  He has calculated that the
theologically ignorant and politically correct secular media will never have
the guts to challenge him on what he refers to as “his faith” or “his
church.”  Just moments before going on with Bill O’Reilly a few weeks ago,
in my earpiece came O’Reilly’s voice telling me that he did NOT want me to
get into the specific beliefs of Mormonism, that “he didn’t want to go
there.” The secular media on one hand really doesn’t care what their
theological beliefs are, and on the other hand, don’t want to be seen as
bashing someone’s “religion.”

Romney has been very clever and calculating in perpetuating the lie that he
is a “Christian” by attracting mainline evangelical figures like Jay Sekulow
and many others to support his candidacy. (My Note: Sekulow works for the organization founded, controlled, and funded by Pat Robertson). Sekulow and any other Christian leader that support Romney should be held accountable by the Christian
community for backing a member of a satanic cult that is leading the souls
of men to hell.  They have sold out the Truth of the Bible and Jesus Christ
just like Judas did for whatever short term political power they may receive
if Romney is elected.  There is NO justification for their endorsement and
support of a man whose influence will attract people to his cult, knowing
those who follow the lies of Mormonism will die and go to hell!

Here are just a few of the theological issues that makes the satanic Mormon
cult totally inconsistent with Biblical Christianity and why a Mormon is no
more a Christian than a Muslim is.  These are the things the lying Mr.
Romney won’t tell you, so I will.  The god of the Mormon cult is NOT the God
of the Bible.  Their “god” is named Elohim and was once a man like you and I
who came from another planet.  Mormon theology teaches that men can
eventually become a god and have their own planet.  Romney, as a member of
this cult, believes that he too will one day become a god.  When he talks
about “god,” he is talking about this fictitious god of Mormonism and NOT
the God of the Bible!

This holds true for Jesus.  The jesus of Mormon theology is not God
incarnate as the Bible teaches.  The Mormon jesus was not supernaturally
conceived by the Holy Ghost, but the natural offspring of their “god” Elohim
who had sex with Mary, meaning he is a created being no different than you
and I. Mormons also teach that their jesus had several wives and children,
again, in compete contradiction to what the Bible teaches.  The jesus of
Romney and the Mormon cult is also the brother of Lucifer and will return
not to the Mt. Of Olives as the Bible teaches, but to Independence, Missouri
to set up his earthly Kingdom.  When Romney talks about “jesus,” he is NOT
talking about the true Jesus of the Bible!

 *What Jesus you put your faith in is so critical, since this is why anyone
who puts their faith in the imaginary jesus of Joseph Smith and the satanic
Mormon cult will die in their sins and their souls burn forever in the
flames of hell!

What about the Bible and true Christian churches?  Mormons love to use the
Bible and quote from the Bible to support their deception that they are
Christians.  The trademark of all cults and false religions, even those who
use the Bible, is that it is NOT their final authority.  In the Mormon cult,
their authority does not come from the Bible which they view as incomplete
and not reliable, but the writings of Smith, the Book of Mormon, the Pearl
of Great Price, and the Doctrine and Covenants.  These are the writings that
form the false theology of this cult.  Romney and all Mormons believe that
non-Mormons are “abominations.”  While they don’t have the guts the Muslims
do to publicly call a non-Muslim an infidel who should be put to death, a
Mormon views a Biblical Christian as part of a “false religion” and void of
all authority.  Mitt Romney believes a Bible-believing Christian, the very
people he is courting so hard, are an abomination!

Like in all cults, the average member hasn’t got a clue what their cult
really believes. You only get to know everything after you have proven
yourself to be a loyal and worthy member of the cult.  That is true in the
Mormon cult as well.  Most Mormons go to their “church,” sing many of the
same hymns they sing at the Baptist church down the road, give their tithe,
read a few passages out of the Bible, hear a message about being a “good
person,” and go home.  It is only when you get to become a “temple Mormon”
that you really learn all of the deep, dark, beliefs of Mormonism.  The
Mormon temple rituals are actually little more than the temple rituals Smith
copied from another cult, Freemasonry!  Smith who was involved in the
Masonic cult, simply copied and incorporated their chants, handshakes, and
ceremonies when he started the Mormon cult.  These are the same chants,
handshakes, and ceremonies Romney participated in when he took his oath to
the Mormon cult above anything else, INCLUDING THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AND
CONSTITUTION!

The average person has no idea that the ultimate goal of the Mormon cult is
to establish a theocracy here in the United States.  Joseph Smith, the
cult’s founder actually ran for the Presidency.  So did Romney’s father.
This cult has the very real goal of establishing the “Kingdom of God,” which
means advancing the physical and earthly organization of the multi-billion
dollar Mormon cult.  There is a special room in the Mormon Temple located in
Washington, DC that has been prepared and in place for over 30 years, which
will be the seat of power for the Mormon-led government which will supplant
our current government.  This was the vision Smith laid out less than 200
years ago, and Mitt Romney and those in the hierarchy and leadership of the
Mormon cult see this as the time for that vision to become fulfilled!

I love you and care about you so much.  I have done my best in a limited
amount of time to give you a brief overview of the false and satanic beliefs
of the Mormon cult..  I have just barely scratched the surface, but just in
what I have shared with you today, NOBODY in their right mind could ever
believe that a Mormon is a Christian.  When you study Mormon theology and
understand the wild beliefs of Smith and this cult, you need faith greater
than I will ever hope to have to believe what they do.  There is no logic to
it and there is absolutely nothing they believe that has any basis in realty
or can be proven.  The mythical gold tablets Smith said he found .  Men who
become gods and have their own planet where they have many wives and create
“spirit babies.”  It all makes Star Trek look believable!

The Mormon cult shares some of the same scientific fantasies of the
Scientology cult dreamed up by that science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard.
It also has some elements of the false religion of Islam in that they
believe all non-Mormons are an abomination and they will one day rule the
earth.  As I shared earlier, they have also taken some of the dark, satanic
rituals of the Masonic cult and incorporated them into their temple
ceremonies.  Listen, Mitt Romney and those in this cult can believe whatever
they want.  God gave us free will, and men who live in rebellion to God
since the very beginning have dreamed up the wildest and most ridiculous
things, and sadly people who were spiritually void chose to believe their
lies and will be lost for all eternity because of it.  My main  point is
that they be honest and truthful about what they believe.  The danger of
Mormonism is that they are deceptive (just look at their name, the Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) and will lie without conscience  just
like the father of lies, satan (John 8:44), to get people to join their
cult.

The secular media has got to be responsible enough to tell people what the
Mormon cult really believes.  They can’t simply give Romney a pass when he
talks about “his faith” and “his church.”  They need to have the guts to
tell people what “his faith and church” really believe and challenge him
when he uses words like God, Jesus, and the Bible.  They don’t have to take
my word for it.  There is a wealth of information easily accessible out
there by thousands of people who were once part of this cult.  There is 100%
proof and documentation of all that this cult believes.  When you challenge
a Mormon on their beliefs, they will flat out lie to you.  In a recent
debate with Mormon apologist Scott Gordon on the Alan Colmes radio program,
I addressed many of the issues I have talked  about today, plus things like
their belief that you can pray for someone who is dead to be saved, their
belief Black people have been cursed, and each time he flat out LIED about
what they really believe.

So I am calling today for Mr. Romney to take off his jacket, unbutton his
shirt, and let the world see that he wears the sacred undergarments of the
priesthood  that bear the emblems of SATAN’S POWER AND PRIESTHOODS!  I am
calling on Mr. Romany to stop lying and deceiving people that he believes in
God, Jesus, and the Bible, and tell people the god he believes in used to be
a human being who evolved into his status as a god as he plans to one day,
that his jesus is not deity but a created being who can’t save your soul,
and the Bible is imperfect and his final authority are the writings of
Joseph Smith.  That is all I am asking Mr. Romney, TELL PEOPLE WHAT YOUR
“CHURCH” REALLY BELIEVES!

***Ed Decker and his wife Carol are very dear friends as well as being part
of the Liveprayer family for many years now.  Ed is one of the world’s
leading and most sought after authorities on the Mormon cult, having been a
member of that cult for 20 years and a “temple Mormon,” until he came to
know the real Jesus 32 years ago.  Over the past 3 decades, Ed co-authored
the bestselling book “The God Makers,” and has written many other books and
created resources to help educate people about the truth of the Mormon cult.
He has also put his very life on the line to travel the world and help lead
people out of that darkness of Mormonism and into the light of the Truth of
God’s Word alone.  If you want to know all there is to know about the
satanic Mormon cult, please visit Ed’s ministry site:
http://www.saintsalive.com/

In His love and service,
Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller

If I can help you in any way you can contact me through my personal email at:
bkeller@liveprayer.com

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Is Corporate Welfare Sinful According To Proverbs 22:6?

Posted by Job on June 20, 2007

Psalm 22:6 – He that oppresseth the poor to increase his riches, and he that giveth to the rich, shall surely come to want.  Now we can debate with the left all we want over “cutting social programs in order to give tax cuts to the rich” fulfills the “oppresseth the poor to increase his riches” part. You can defend tax shelters and wanting to do away with the inheritance tax if you want as well. But there is NO WAY that corporate welfare does not violate “and he that giveth to the rich.” So people who do this AND people who support this will have some explaining to do when they stand before God.

Now of you looking for another reason to vote for Ron Paul: he opposes corporate welfare. So what if he and libertarians like him oppose social welfare programs for the poor. The Bible never at any point says that governments should provide for the poor. That is the job of the church, and one of the reasons why the church isn’t doing it anymore is because the government IS. But the Bible DOES EXPLICITLY say that transferring wealth to the rich through corporate welfare (tax cuts and tax shelters do not qualify because it was their money to begin with) and similar policies is sinful. Have any of the other candidates, including former minister Mike Huckabee, taken a strong Biblical position against corporate welfare? Speaking of ministers, have ANY of the leading figures on the religious right come out against corporate welfare? Or is a fundamentalist literal interpretation of the Bible limited to, er, certain issues? If any of you can come up with a leading religious right figure coming out against the corporate welfare policies of the George W. Bush administration or this blatant violation of not only the letter but the spirit of the Bible, let me know.

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The Fallout From Taking On Mitt Romney, The Mormons, And Several Leading Evangelicals

Posted by Job on May 15, 2007

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2 Chronicles 15:6, Psalms 137:1

***WorldNetDaily Story!  Here is the link to the story WorldNetDaily.com did
from the Friday May 11th Daily Devotional on Mitt Romney and the evangelical
Christian leaders supporting him.  This story has caused a national
firestorm and I will be doing lots of national media this week regarding my
comments.  Please be praying as I am able to expose the lies of this cult
and point people to the Truth of God’s Word and the hope we have in the one
true Jesus of the Bible!

***IF YOU MISSED LAST FRIDAY’S DEVOTIONAL, A VOTE FOR ROMNEY IS A VOTE FOR SATAN, HERE IS THE LINK TO IT:
http://www.liveprayer.com/ddarchive3.cfm?id=2931 

See my personal view (NOT authored by Bill Keller, the author of this devotional)why opposing Romney for his Mormonism is NOT a religious test healtheland.wordpress.com/2007/05/13/christian-opposition-to-mormon-mitt-romney-is-not-a-religion-test/

The fallout from taking on Romney, the Mormons, and several leading evangelical leaders. Even though my life is very interesting every day, virtually non-stop in doing all I can to bring God’s Truth and the hope of Christ to the lost and hurting masses outside of the church, the past 72 hours have been interesting times 100.  What I have been dealing with since Friday’s Devotional on how a vote for Romney is a vote for satan and the growing number of leading evangelical Christian leaders who are supporting this satanic cult member’s bid to become our next President, can very instructive for your life.  It is the number one reason most people never take much of a stand for their faith, or even witness to the people in their life.  There is a price to pay for taking a stand for Christ in a world that rejects the Lord.  However, the one thing I want you to never forget is that it is not man you have to please, but God. One day you will die, and at that moment, it is not a man you will stand before….it is God!

The response to Friday’s Devotional was pretty much what I expected.  Alex Burgos, a spokesman for the Romney campaign said, “I guess what I can tell you is it shows that bigotry can still rear its ugly head in society.  It’s sad that anyone would target a fellow American on the issue of faith.”  Ah, the “b” word.  If I had a dime for every time I have been called a bigot in the past 72 hours Liveprayer would be funded for the next 5 years! I’ve told you for years now that the way those who oppose the cause of Christ try to silence those who have the audacity to shine the light of His Truth on their lies is to attack them.  If you speak out against the sin of homosexuality you are called a hate monger.  If you call abortion what it is, murder, you are called intolerant. If you speak out against the cults and false religions of the world you are called close minded. Nobody I know wants to be called any off these things and even worse, so it has proven to be a very effective tactic to verbally assault people of faith who do speak out, and try to intimidate them into silence. Sadly, most of the time it works!

*Be honest.  When was the last time you failed to speak up to defend your faith because you simply didn’t want to take the grief you knew would follow???

For the nearly 8 years I have been writing the Daily Devotional and the over 4 years of doing the TV program, some of the most viscous attacks on our technical infrastructure, on me personally, have come when I expose the lies of the satanic Mormon cult. This time was no different, except it was at an unprecedented level of ferociousness since I was taking on their greatest hope to capture the most powerful office in the world. We had our website and servers attacked relentlessly all weekend.  I’ve received 12 death threats so far in addition to the scores of emails telling me that “someone will visit me when I least expect it.” I refuse to live in fear and having dealt with these types of threats for the past 8 years, have learned how to use the common sense the Lord gave me and ultimately trust Him to watch over me as I serve Him each day.

Even though I expected it, what made me saddest of all were the brutal attacks by those who identified themselves as Christians.  People totally outraged that I would attack such a good man and brother in Christ (meaning Romney).  This is why I do my best each day to expose the lies of the world so you are not as ignorant as the vast majority of Believers. This devious and deceptive cult has done a masterful job of selling the lie that they are “just another Christian church.”  A Mormon is no more a Christian than a Muslim is.  The god and jesus born out of the rebellious mind of Joey Smith are NOT the God and Jesus of the Bible!  The false theology of Mormonism is in 100% contradiction to Biblical Christianity. There is only one Truth, and if Mormonism is true than Christianity is a lie. I was not shocked, only saddened by how many who claim to be Christians are so deceived, so gnorant, that they think a Mormon is a Christian.

It was also sad to see just how many people are influenced, have their houghts and views shaped by TELEVISION!  If there was ever a case for why God has given me this passion, this drive to get the TV program back on nationwide, this was a classic example.  I wish you could have read all of the emails over the past few days, the ones still pouring in, from people who parroted virtually word for word what they have heard from people like Sean Hannity and many who reach the masses on secular TV and radio and support Romney. Hannity is on record stating that anyone who attacks Romney for being a Mormon is a hate monger.  The emails poured in from people who have been brainwashed by those they listen to on TV and radio who make the case for Romney that it doesn’t matter that he is a Mormon, that he has great family values, that he is the best choice there is for a Republican to win the White House in ’08.

This is another perfect example of how critical it is to have a program that is on every day, reaching the nation with a Biblical worldview. So many people, even Christians, have their thoughts and views shaped by what they hear on TV, and there is NOBODY with a nationwide platform on secular television who is dealing with the issues of this world and in people’s lives from a Biblical worldview!

The legitimate question that this has also raised is who to vote for in ’08. As in the past, I refuse to tell you who to vote for, that is a choice YOU have to make.  However, let me give you this guidance.  No person who is serious about their faith can vote for a person who is going to support the killing of babies.  No person who is serious about their faith can vote for a person who is gong to support redefining God’s Holy Institution of Marriage.  No person who is serious about heir faith can vote for a person who is part of a satanic cult since that person will give mainstream credibly to that cult which will lead people to join and end up in hell for rejecting Jesus Christ.  That makes this upcoming presidential election a very difficult choice since it is almost a certainty that the nominee from both parties will support killing babies, possibly gay marriage, and be the member of a satanic cult if Romney wins the Republican nomination. So who to vote for?

As you know I am a huge advocate of Christians taking their stand in all areas of the marketplace, including politics. Most likely our only real option will be choosing a third party candidate who will take a stand to uphold Biblical values. I already know that in this two party system we have, a third party candidate has virtually ZERO chance of ever being elected. However, this election is going to be a test of conscience for Christians. Do they compromise and vote for the “lesser of two evils,” or as some will call it, throw away their vote by voting for a third party candidate who has no chance of winning?  As I said, this will be a real test of conscience for Christians unless a strong man who will take a stand for Biblical values comes out of nowhere to win the Republican nomination. (Sadly, the Democratic Party will never put forth a nominee who doesn’t support killing babies.)

Let me share this with you. Given that the next President is NOT going to be a friend of God and Biblical values, this will be a tremendous opportunity to see this nation come back to God and for many souls to be won to Christ. I have told you often that it will not be a politician but a preacher who will lead this nation back to God. With a President who will not lead this nation in any way spiritually, this is going to force true men and women God who can not be bought or influenced, who don’t care about money or the temporal power of this world, to rise up and lead this nation spiritually. This nation is going to suffer and will be looking for hope and answers, and the Bible and Jesus are the ONLY true hope and answer there is!!!

I love you and care about you so much.  Let me say a HUGE THANK YOU to so many in the Liveprayer family who have emailed me with your love and prayers. I can’t even begin to tell you how much your kind words of support have meant. The strength I received from knowing how many of you were praying for me helped me get through some very long days. In the midst of the death threats, the threats of physical harm, the nasty and vicious attacks on me personally, came the love and prayers of so many in the Liveprayer family. No matter how strong we think we are, we are still flesh and blood, week frail humans. I have such great confidence each day in this work God has called me to knowing that you are there with me, standing with me, taking the time out of your busy lives to pray for me. THANK YOU!

In announcing last week that I would be dealing with Romney this past Friday, I heard from one of the top 10 donors of Liveprayer who over the past few years has given between $70,000 and $100,000 each year. He and his family have been blessed by God and have made the sacrifice to support what Liveprayer is doing each day in millions of lives. He called me and told me his family was very active in Romney’s campaign and that if I spoke negatively about Romney he would not be able to support me any longer. I told him that I understood and took the time to explain my concerns with Romney being part of a satanic cult and why I felt he was such a danger to the eternal souls of people if he got elected. I told him that as much as I respected him, I could not withhold or water down this important message warning people of what  it will mean if Romney became President. I also reminded him that he is giving to God, not Bill Keller, thanked him for his
sacrifice for the Lord’s work here, prayed for him and his family and asked God’s blessings on them.

I heard from many more who said they would no longer give to Liveprayer as well as those who unsubscribed from the Daily Devotional. But that is OK, I deal with this all the time. God is the one who has raised up this last day’s work, God is the one who moves on people’s hearts to give, and God is the one who can replace what this one family and these others give each year with others in the Liveprayer family who will be burdened for a true work of God that is about saving souls. This ministry has literally operating month to month since we started 92 months ago.  There are no reserves, no real estate, no safety net of any kind. As I sit here this very moment, we still need $60,000 just to pay the rest of May’s expenses and I have no idea where that will come from. Actually I do. God will move on hearts to provide. Who, how, when, I can’t tell you. I just know that my job is to be faithful for today and God will handle those things outside of my control!

Here is the bottom line to this whole Romney issue. What too many people, especially the people who have been reading what I said in the press can’t comprehend is that this is not about politics, this is about SOULS! My frustration with the many evangelical leaders who are supporting Romney is that they have forgotten that God raised them up to lead people in the eternal things of God, not the temporal things of this world. Why men of God, great groups like the Southern Baptist Convention are willing to support a man who is part of a satanic cult is beyond my ability to comprehend. I realize he is running to be the commander-in-chief, not the theologian-in-chief. I realize that he has a great marriage, great kids, and says he will stand for family values. He actually might be one of the best men there is to be President and lead this nation. (My note: the guy was a one – term governor of a liberal state. What makes people think that he is so electable or qualified? That proves that it is spiritual deception going on.) 

Even if all of that was 100% true, it is still no excuse to support a man who is part of a satanic cult, whose election to the most powerful office on the planet will give worldwide credibility to that satanic cult, will cause millions of people to join their ranks, and ultimately cause them to die in their sins and spend eternity in hell! His candidacy alone has already been a non-stop infomercial for the Mormon cult! I am not saying to abandon the political arena, quite the opposite. We must have a presence and be heard in all areas of life. However, we must never forget that we go into everything we do in this life guided ultimately by eternal goals, not earthly goals.

I REFUSE TO TRADE IN A FEW YEARS OF POLITICAL POWER IN THIS WORLD THAT WILL ONE DAY SOON NO LONGER EXIST FOR THE ETERNAL SOULS OF THOSE WHO WILL END UP JOINING THE MORMON CULT AND BURN IN HELL!

In His love and service,
Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller

If I can help you in any way you can contact me through my personal email at:
bkeller@liveprayer.com

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Christian Opposition To Mormon Mitt Romney Is NOT A Religion Test!

Posted by Job on May 13, 2007

In this prior Romney post (click here), I made notice of the fact that most of the biggest religious right supporters of Romney (and especially the ones playing the “religious bigotry” card) are Catholic, and suggested that the reason was that Catholics believe that they could get more out of a Mormon than they could a Catholic or Protestant, especially in the area of Supreme Court nominations and the state financing of Catholicism. This CommonConservative.com article is a particularly egregious example of it. See, they are trying to sell you the LIE that opposing Romney because of his religion is “a religion test.” To do so, they oppose the TRUTH, which is that religion test only applies to a government law or political party rule that bars a person of a particular religion, by making the spectactular claim that private citizens should abide by the same rules that the government has to. “We know many people are saying “So what? This applies to the government, not us.” On the contrary, it does apply to us. We are told that this is unacceptable for the government to do, so why is it different for us? It is not.” Let us say we allow this inquisition to happen, and Mitt Romney is not elected because of his faith. Not only will we have denied a competent, capable person of achieving a federal office, denying him based only on his religious identity, but we will have also created a very slippery slope. We, the people, will have literally created a new form of political attack. No one would be safe from such an assault. Thomas and I would be just as disdained as Governor Romney for our beliefs about Communion, the Trinity, or the Assumption of the Virgin Mary. And so they lay it all on the line: if Protestants start resisting Mormonism for their blasphemies and heresies, THEY MIGHT COME AFTER OURS NEXT! And do you know what? I was watching this excellent TV show produced by the folks at AmazingFacts.TV, and it assuaged the guilt that I used to feel whenever I go after Catholics. How? 1) THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HOLDS THAT THE POPE TAKES THE PLACE OF THE SECOND PERSON OF THE TRINITY ON EARTH. 2) They gave the precise point in history when the Catholic Church crossed the line (when they started using STATE ARMIES to force conversions). So, rest assured, I will be adding Catholicism to Mormonism and unitarianism (Jesus Only Oneness Pentecostals and similar) to my list of cults whose heresies I will expose.

In any event, do not believe either conservative Catholics like Sean Hannity and Kathryn Jean Lopez or secular liberal lies like this nonsense from my hometown Pulitzer Prize winning “newspaper”(click here). Make no mistake: the ILLEGAL (as it should be) religion test ONLY applies to government and to entities that are of public accommodation and as such cannot discriminate (i.e. restaurants, places of employment, political parties, etc.). It DOES NOT apply to individuals. It DOES NOT apply to private groups or entities. And individuals and private groups SHOULD NOT feel beholden to emulate the government on this issue or on any other issue!

Let me give you an example of how foolish this is. Say someone was convicted of a brutal child rape and murder based on overwhelming evidence, but the conviction was overturned on appeal because the police and prosecutors made procedural errors gathering and handling the evidence, and they can’t try him again because the courts won’t allow the evidence to be submitted again, and without it there is no case. (Yes, people, it does happen.) In this instance, THE STATE HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO TREAT THE MAN AS IF HE IS COMPLETELY INNOCENT. Now, if you were to adhere to what the writers of this article say, then you – despite being fully aware of the facts and circumstances of the case – should have no problem with renting a room in your house to this fellow, ESPECIALLY if you have have children, right? Moreover, IF IT HAD BEEN YOUR DAUGHTER THAT HAD BEEN RAPED AND MURDERED, SINCE YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO ACT AFTER THE SAME MANNER AS THE STATE, YOU SHOULD HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THIS FELLOW WHATSOEVER. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT FORGIVING THIS FELLOW (as God requires as a condition of your own forgiveness), NO, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO PRETEND AS IF HE WERE NEVER ACCUSED, ARRESTED, CHARGED, TRIED, AND CONVICTED OF THE CRIME BASED ON OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE, WHICH IS PRECISELY THE SAME STATUS THIS FELLOW WOULD  HAVE IN THE EYES OF THE GOVERNMENT!

And for a more hypocritical example: the state cannot make distinctions in religious belief and sexual preference or behavior when hiring and firing, right? So, if we are supposed to use the same standard as the state, then in Massachusetts the Catholic Church ought to ordain married pagan lesbians as priests and allow them to adopt children from their adoption agencies, right? 

Listen, Christians. What these “no religion test” people are actually trying to get you to do is RENOUNCE YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. That is correct. An individual Christian or even a large well organized group of Christians making the decision to oppose Mitt Romney, the representative of the false cult religion that wants to fill you to the brim with demons and send you to the lake of fire for an eternity, because of his religion or any other person for their religion IS CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED FREEDOM OF RELIGIOUS (and political) BELIEF, PRACTICE, EXPRESSION, AND SPEECH! THESE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO EITHER CONVINCE YOU THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS IN THIS AREA, OR SHAME YOU INTO SURRENDERING THEM WITH ACCUSATIONS OF BIGOTRY!

Now I will admit, if you have been totally plugged into the media, entertainment, educational system, political discourse, or even attend many churches, you will have the CONVICTION that it is BIGOTRY to oppose someone SOLELY for their religious beliefs. (Which is all the more reason why Christians should strive to renew their minds from those things by full continuous immersion of them in the Word of God Romans 12:2.) I say so what? THE CONSTITUTION GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO BE A BIGOT IN THIS AREA JUST AS IT GIVES THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TO BAR WHOM THEY CHOOSE FROM THEIR OFFICES AND THE FAMILIES OF VICTIMS OF HORRENDOUS CRIMES THE RIGHT TO DENY REQUESTS FOR HOUSING TO THOSE WHO COMMITTED THEM AND ESCAPED PRISON ON TECHNICALITIES!

Christians, you must understand that there is a well – coordinated effort underway in this country to deprive Bible – believing Christians of their rights. The first avenue is always the political/legal realm, but when that fails, there is the “pressure tactic” strategy, and then the “shame/guilt/condemnation” strategy. And no, it isn’t about Mormons, really: it is about religious speech. Now it is impossible to make TRUE Bible – based speech illegal NOW, but after decades of getting Christians to stop saying that homosexuality is sin, abortion is murder, and the Yeshua HaMashiach of the Bible is the only way to heaven and all who reject Him will be cast into the lake of fire for eternity. They do this by telling us that our views are irrational, discriminatory, dangerous, divisive, hurtful, etc. and by taking all sorts of methods of reprisal against us (including but not limited to firing us from our jobs and ostracism). Christians that are in love with the world and themselves will fall in line, and that will make it politically feasible to pass laws that make Bible speech hate crimes. Anyone who gives up their rights today allows those same rights to be taken from someone else tomorrow, and it happens time and time again and again.

Now if an argument is to be made AGAINST an organized campaign by Bible – believing Christians to oppose Romney, it is NOT a legal, political, or moral one. Instead, it would and should be as everything else: 100% Biblical and spiritual. A person could posit that opposing Romney based on his Mormonism alone would be failing to “love thy neighbor as thyself” as Yeshua HaMashiach commanded us to. That is actually an argument worth considering. I deal with that with my statement advanced in my “Demon Of The Day: Racism” article (and I do need to get back to the “Demon Of The Day” feature): that does not mean that you should fail to oppose Romney because if YOU were the Mormon YOU would not want HIM to oppose YOU. It does not even mean that “well, we wouldn’t want Mormons to oppose Christians so we can’t oppose them.”

The easiest way to disprove that intellectual dishonesty is this: what is the greatest act of love that you can show someone? Simple: sharing them the gospel so that their spirits will be spared the lake of fire on the day of judgment and instead be with God for eternity should they accept and endure until the end. Of course, were you a Mormon, you would not want some Christian coming to you telling you that your religion is false and it will take you to the lake of fire for an eternity, right? And as a Christian, you certainly do not want Mormons (or Muslims or Jehovah’s Witnesses or Oneness Pentecostals or Catholics or secular humanists or homosexuals or abortionists or anyone else) proselytizing you, do you? I mean, you concede that they have the right to do it in a free country, but you do not WANT them to do it, do you? That teaching of Yeshua HaMashiach instead means that we should give the Love of Christ just as we desire to receive that same Love. And you know what that Love of Christ includes? Warning. Reproof. The Bible – including Christ’s very teachings – is consistent in it’s treatment of sin and sinners. It is explicitly clear in what will happen to all who do not reject sin: eternal destruction! And that gets back to “loving your neighbor as yourself.” If you were lost in sin and in danger of eternal damnation, would YOU want people to pat you on the back and say “You’re fine, you’re a good person, God is going to accept you just the way you are!” That is not loving someone, that is hating him. By the same token, a Christian failing to take into account Mitt Romney’s false religion is not loving Romney, it is hating him, and it is certainly hating the millions of people that would convert to Mormonism were he to gain the seat of power of the most powerful nation in the world. 

So, not only is it the duty of every Bible – believing Christian to refuse to support Romney, it is the duty of every Bible – believing Christian to oppose him. Are you a Christian or are you not? Do you believe in the Bible or do you not? Well, the Bible clearly says that A) false religions are evil and B) to resist evil. No case can be made otherwise, and the only reason for attempting to is your being such as one whose heart is filled with the words and “values” of this world and of men (and their demons) rather than the Word of God. We are to be upholding the Word of God, not worldly views and values. It is about being obedient to Christ, not keeping Hillary Clinton out of office. Yes, Christians are supposed to oppose Hillary Clinton, Rudy Giuliani, and everyone else that supports gay rights and abortion, but no Christians are not supposed to be trying to parse between “the lesser of two evils” like you are trying to choose between whether to let a demon of violence or a demon of hate to let into you or something. 

Now I have been saying from the beginning: this is not so much to do with Romney. Romney is one man with one eternal spirit who has to decide for himself whether he will submit himself to the Triune God of the Bible or not. This is about BIBLE BELIEVING CHRISTIANS. Support for (or failure to oppose) Romney and all of the other Christ opponents is a test of A) whether your mind is of Christ or after the world and B) whether you are willing to fight the Lord’s battles or not. Now there are some Christians who simply practice rarely or not voting as a general practice; this is not necessarily aimed at them. But as to Christians who plan to vote or do vote, do not fool yourselves into thinking that you can compartmentalize God. God should dominate your every word, thought, and action. Everything you do should be to serve, honor, and glorify God and to advance God’s righteousness. I did not say to advance the pro – life pro – family traditional values agenda. An atheist, pagan, Satanist, or witch can be pro – life and pro – family with traditional values. Do not think that your participating in putting a Mormon in the White House so that he can overturn Roe v. Wade will please or honor God. So he may stop abortion and gay marriage: what about everything else he does?

And if your failure to support Romney puts Hillary Clinton in office? Well, this is what it is about, Christians. Read Frank Peretti’s “The Visitation” about this “taking this town/city/nation for Christ”nonsense. God did not put you on this earth to save America and set it on the right path. If He did not send His Own Word who is also God as His Son to free Israel from captivity and compel the Jews to follow Him, what makes you think that it is your job to save America, or to participate in America’s saving? Read your Bible, Christian. No where in the New Testament does it say that we are supposed to transform nations politically. Why? Because nations and political systems ARE OF THE WORLD. THE WORLD REJECTED CHRIST. SATAN IS THE RULER OF THIS WORLD, AND SATAN AND THIS WORLD HAS NOTHING IN CHRIST. SINCE WE ARE CHRIST’S AND THE BODY OF CHRIST, WE ARE TO HAVE NOTHING IN THIS WORLD AND THIS WORLD IS TO HAVE NOTHING IN US! The only reason why this doctrine – which is explicitly given in crystal clear scripture – is not only not commonly known but is regularly contradicted in the words and actions of so many Christians is because we have been raised to believe that we should merge politics and culture with our relationship with Christ. (I actually heard this right – wing talk show once claim that our Constitution was divinely inspired by God!) And that is the main problem with this “religious right” movement, which is really the right wing version of the Marxist “liberation theology” movement. We are not supposed to be trying to save America: it is God who raises up, judges, and brings down nations and kings as HE sees fit. God gave us fall free will; free choice. We cannot bring, drag, or compel nations to righteousness. We cannot even bring, drag, or compel INDIVIDUALS to righteousness. Each individual and each NATION must make its own choice regarding whether to follow good or evil. Your job, Christian, is to A) work out your own salvation and B) preach the gospel so that God can use you to save others and to C) resist evil GOD’S WAY, not the world’s way, which is also evil. And how do you perform C)? By A) and B). It is a 3 point circle with definite distinct parts that are interdependent, point to the other parts, and with B) and C) dependent on (subject to) A, just like the Triune Godhead. We are, after all, made in God’s Image, and salvation through Christ gives us the power to act like it, and we are supposed to use it!

So if America elects Hillary (or Romney) that is America’s problem, not yours. You are supposed to have FAITH in YOUR GOD that HE will deliver YOU NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS TO AMERICA! These “religious right” types have forsaken the fact that we are supposed to be living for the next world and not this one; the next world is where we are supposed to have our treasure. And that is why so many Christians like the billionaire Pat Robertson (who has made his share of questionable business deals in his time) are even THINKING of supporting Romney: their treasure is in the wrong place. Barring some miracle, it is very likely that the next President of the United States will be someone that is OVERTLY AGAINST THE BIBLE IN A CLEAR SIGNIFICANT WAY. Christian, it is my duty to tell you that A) if that happens God is still on the throne and that event will be used as part of His Plan and B) it would be in your best interests if it happens without your help.

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