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Paul Washer: Regeneration Versus Decisionism

Posted by Job on October 26, 2011

In this sermon Paul talks about the misuse of Scripture in the understanding of salvation.
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=1021081230111
Regeneration vs Decisionism – DEEPER Conference 2008 Breakout Session (Living Waters & Way of the Master)

4 Responses to “Paul Washer: Regeneration Versus Decisionism”

  1. AMG said

    Calvinists claim sola scriptura, but there is nothing in the Bible that says humans cannot believe in God after learning of Jesus. Calvinism is man-made beliefs. If it is not in the Bible, then do not believe it, for it is not the word of God. It is that simple.

    • Job said

      “Calvinism is man-made beliefs. If it is not in the Bible, then do not believe it, for it is not the word of God. It is that simple.”

      I really wish that non-Calvinists would stop saying this. Non-Calvinists constantly repeat this to each other and it gets to be an echo chamber. The truth is that every single position in Calvinism (though technically I am not a Calvinist, but a Particular Baptist, as is Paul Washer) is 100% based on the Bible. Every Particular Baptist belief is supported by multiple scripture texts that are interpreted literally and in context. People who claim otherwise are either ill-informed or dishonest. Now please note: I DID NOT SAY that non-Calvinism isn’t Bible-based, that non-Calvinism is man-made. I am only saying that Particular Baptist beliefs are not man-made. In other words, the same false railing accusation that you make against me, I do not make against you.

      “but there is nothing in the Bible that says humans cannot believe in God after learning of Jesus”

      There is a difference between mere belief on one hand and saving faith on the other. Lots of people believed in Jesus Christ. Judas Iscariot believed in Jesus Christ. The Jewish leaders who sent Him to the cross and knew of His resurrection believed in Jesus Christ. Simon Magus believed in Jesus Christ. So did those that Paul wrote of that fell away from the faith i.e. Alexander and Demas. But faith, saving faith, is another matter. The Bible says that without faith, it is impossible to please God. The children of Israel at the time of the Exodus, the generation that wandered in the wilderness, knew of God. They witnessed His mighty works first hand. They believed in God; as they saw God’s presence and God dwelled with them. But they did not please God. Why? Because they did not have faith. That is why they perished in the wilderness and did not enter the promised land: despite their knowledge and belief they did not have faith, and therefore they could not please God. And most certainly, the person who does not please God is the person that is by definition unsaved.

      And the faith that pleases God comes only from the Holy Spirit. I repeat, the Bible makes it clear that faith is not something that humans generate themselves as the product of their own reason, decision, strength or will. The Bible makes it clear that faith is a gift of the Holy Spirit. Faith comes only from God, and without faith no one can be saved. A person can come to a rational, logical conclusion concerning the gospel. That is not salvation. A person can become overwhelmed with emotion when confronted with his sinfulness and the threat of eternity in the lake of fire and embrace the gospel as a result. That is not salvation either. The reason is that salvation is not the product of human reason or human emotion. Human reason and human logic does not result in regeneration, new birth, becoming a new creation. Instead, becoming a new creation is a work of the Holy Spirit. And a precondition for the work of regeneration by the Holy Spirit is faith given to the person that becomes a new creation by that same Holy Spirit. This is not some man-made philosophy but 100% scripture that is foreshadowed with foundations, prophecies and types in the Old Testament and plainly given in the New Testament.

      Thank you.

      • AMG said

        You said:“Calvinism is man-made beliefs. If it is not in the Bible, then do not believe it, for it is not the word of God. It is that simple.” I really wish that non-Calvinists would stop saying this. Non-Calvinists constantly repeat this to each other and it gets to be an echo chamber.

        My reply: I do not talk much with other non-Calvinists about Calvinism.

        You said: The truth is that every single position in Calvinism (though technically I am not a Calvinist, but a Particular Baptist, as is Paul Washer) is 100% based on the Bible. Every Particular Baptist belief is supported by multiple scripture texts that are interpreted literally and in context. People who claim otherwise are either ill-informed or dishonest.

        My reply: People who believe we are not capable of believing in God after learning of Jesus, they misinterpret the scriptures they use to support their false belief.

        You said: Now please note: I DID NOT SAY that non-Calvinism isn’t Bible-based, that non-Calvinism is man-made. I am only saying that Particular Baptist beliefs are not man-made. In other words, the same false railing accusation that you make against me, I do not make against you.

        My reply: I can prove from the scriptures that you are mistaken.

        You said: “but there is nothing in the Bible that says humans cannot believe in God after learning of Jesus” There is a difference between mere belief on one hand and saving faith on the other.

        My reply: What you said there, that is not in the Bible.

        You said: Lots of people believed in Jesus Christ. Judas Iscariot believed in Jesus Christ. The Jewish leaders who sent Him to the cross and knew of His resurrection believed in Jesus Christ. Simon Magus believed in Jesus Christ. So did those that Paul wrote of that fell away from the faith i.e. Alexander and Demas. But faith, saving faith, is another matter. The Bible says that without faith, it is impossible to please God. The children of Israel at the time of the Exodus, the generation that wandered in the wilderness, knew of God. They witnessed His mighty works first hand. They believed in God; as they saw God’s presence and God dwelled with them. But they did not please God. Why? Because they did not have faith. That is why they perished in the wilderness and did not enter the promised land: despite their knowledge and belief they did not have faith, and therefore they could not please God. And most certainly, the person who does not please God is the person that is by definition unsaved.

        My reply: The Bible says that God saves all who believe in His Son. Believing in Jesus and knowing OF Jesus is not the same. You are making an argument where no argument is unwarranted. We do not receive the Holy Spirit until we obey, see John 14:23; Acts 2:38; and Acts 5:32. We have to obey Jesus! In addition, God will judge His people. It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God, see Hebrews 10:30-39.

        You said: And the faith that pleases God comes only from the Holy Spirit. I repeat, the Bible makes it clear that faith is not something that humans generate themselves as the product of their own reason, decision, strength or will. The Bible makes it clear that faith is a gift of the Holy Spirit. Faith comes only from God, and without faith no one can be saved. A person can come to a rational, logical conclusion concerning the gospel. That is not salvation.

        My reply: We have to believe. We have to believe all the way through obeying Jesus’ teachings. We would not know what faith is if Jesus had not come to show us the Way. However, the Bible does not say we receive the Holy Spirit before we believe to make us believe. The Bible does not say we receive the Holy Spirit before we obey to make us obey! The Bible says, “God exalted him to his own right hand as Prince and Savior that he might give repentance and forgiveness of sins to Israel. We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him.” Did you see that? “…whom God has given to those who obey him.” See Acts 5:30-32. Show me one scripture that says we receive the Holy Spirit to make us believe. You cannot show me that, because it is NOT the Word of God.

        You said: A person can become overwhelmed with emotion when confronted with his sinfulness and the threat of eternity in the lake of fire and embrace the gospel as a result. That is not salvation either. The reason is that salvation is not the product of human reason or human emotion.

        My reply: Again, we have to obey. God will judge His people who believe in His Son but do not obey.

        You said: Human reason and human logic does not result in regeneration, new birth, becoming a new creation. Instead, becoming a new creation is a work of the Holy Spirit. And a precondition for the work of regeneration by the Holy Spirit is faith given to the person that becomes a new creation by that same Holy Spirit. This is not some man-made philosophy but 100% scripture that is foreshadowed with foundations, prophecies and types in the Old Testament and plainly given in the New Testament.

        My reply: The Holy Spirit sanctifies us. We have renewal by the Holy Spirit; we are washed, sanctified, and justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. God saves us through the sanctifying work of the Spirit and through belief in the truth. .However, it is not in the Bible where you say “And a precondition for the work of regeneration by the Holy Spirit is faith given to the person…” Where does it say that in the Bible? It does not. Thank you for allowing me to post on your site.

  2. Todd Reeder said

    I agree with what is said here. But how can someone love a God who allows people to be born and go to hell because he did not choose to save them? They did not choose to be born and totaly depraved. But yet they go to hell because they were not ordained to salvation.

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