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Why Does The Media Focus Only On Harold Camping?

Posted by Job on May 26, 2011

Yes, Harold Camping has been exposed as a false prophet, deceiving many as concerning the timing of the second coming of Jesus Christ. Again. Yes, his deception has caused lots of problems and unnecessary harm, especially for his followers. Again. The question is this: what is the big deal? Why has Camping been the subject of such media attention for months when there are so many pressing stories to cover i.e. wars, famines, diseases, natural disasters, economic failures, political intrigues etc. on a global scale? Clearly the media has an agenda, but what is it?

First off, for the sake of sound doctrine, let it be known that the return of Jesus Christ will not occur until A) the gospel has been taken to all nations and B) a great apostasy, a great falling away from the true faith, occurs. As the great commission is a primary duty of the church, it logical to conclude that the falling away will occur shortly after the great commission is fulfilled, or when the great commission’s fulfillment and with it the time of the Gentiles draws to a close. Anyone who extricates themselves from rapture watching and religious right (or religious left) politics long enough to pay attention to the global missions movements knows that barring a fantastic miracle we are at least 100 years from fulfilling the great commission (the 10/40 window alone is an amazing challenge) and – despite the claims of Camping otherwise – far from there being a great falling away, there are more Christians – or definitely appreciable numbers of Christians in more places – today than at any time in history. So, if we can learn anything from this Camping episode, it is that we should heed the words given by angels and recorded by the physician Luke at the direction of God the Holy Spirit “why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.” That was an exhortation to cease waiting for eternity and to get on with the business of living for eternity by loving Jesus Christ and walking in His ways.

With that out of the way, let it further be said that the error of Camping does not undermine the authority of the Bible, Jesus Christ or His church but rather confirms it. How? Because the Bible repeatedly warns against false teachers, including those who would lead people into error concerning His second coming. Jesus Christ said that “false prophets shall deceive many” in Matthew 24:5, and that many will be offended by the true faith in Matthew 24:10. Such false teachings were present even while the New Testament was being written, as the apostle Peter referenced them in 2 Peter 3:4, the apostle John did the same in 1 John 2:18, and the apostle Paul did the same in 2 Thessalonians 2.  Further, Jesus Christ predicted such specifically in Matthew 24:4-5! The New Testament makes it clear that we identify false teachers when they teach things that are in contradiction to the Bible. This truth is what drove William Tyndale to martyrdom, when he stated “I defy the Pope and all his laws. If God spare my life ere many years, I will cause the boy that drives the plow to know more of the scriptures than you!” in response to being told that common people didn’t need to be knowledgeable concerning the Bible’s contents, because it was better to obey the pope than the Bible anyway. So, in rejecting Jesus Christ when He stated that none knows the timing of His return save God the Father (Matthew 24:36), and in rejecting Jesus Christ when He stated that the great commission will be fulfilled before He returns (Matthew 24:14) and in rejecting the Holy Spirit’s inspiration of Paul concerning the falling away first in 2 Thessalonians 2:3, this Camping teaches against things concerning God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, and by his doing so and attracting so many followers he verifies the pages of the New Testament when it said that such a thing would happen. So, Camping did not harm the authenticity or integrity of the Bible by being wrong, but rather verified the Bible’s truth! Instead, Camping’s being RIGHT would have been an occasion to challenge the veracity of the Bible, for were Jesus Christ to return before we reach the many tribes in the 10/40 window or while there are tens of millions of believers risking persecution to worship in Africa and Asia, what would be said of those Bible texts?

So, make no mistake, there is nothing special about Camping. Was not just over ten years ago when there were tons of false prophets claiming based on Bible codes and numerology that Jesus Christ was going to return in 2000? (Never mind that the Bible doesn’t follow our modern calendars, and that Bede almost certainly incorrectly calculated the date of the birth of Jesus Christ that we use for “B.C.” and “A.D.” anyway). Or about 25 years ago Jesus Christ was going to return because it was 40 years after of the establishment of the modern state of Israel? (Never mind that Jesus Christ spoke “this generation” to the Jews of His own time concerning the destruction of the temple in 70 A.D., and if the Bible actually does speak of the restoration of the political nation of Israel, it does not link this event to any timetable concerning Christ’s return.) So why all the fuss and the furor? It has to serve some sort of media agenda.

Consider this: how come when the subject in view is Usama bin Laden or some other Muslim terrorist, the media is quick to say “he isn’t a real Muslim” or “he doesn’t represent mainstream Islam that is practiced by hundreds of millions of peaceful followers”, but the media is quick to depict Camping as being in or near the mainstream of evangelical and fundamental Christians? In truth, as Camping rejects the Holy Trinity, he shouldn’t be classified as Christian at all. Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Muslims and Jews all reject the Holy Trinity, a core foundational doctrine of Christianity that sets it apart from other religions that are either polytheistic or present a false teaching on God’s Unity. But while the media does its best to present Islam and increasingly Mormonism as moderate and mainstream, it uses Camping to create a wild eyed, dangerous fanatical face for Bible-believing Christianity.

Another thing: it isn’t as if Camping is the only false prophet or source of wrong information. Far from it. It is just that when so many others get things wrong and are exposed for their false, anti-Biblical thinking, nothing is ever said about it. Instead, the media, the academy, the elites simply move on. (Or they carry on as if the error was never made.) Consider liberal Christianity, such as the critical “scholars.” Barely a year goes by when an archaeological find of a Biblical site or a scientific breakthrough that confirms Biblical truth or discovery of early manuscripts verifying the existence of historical persons, places and the integrity of Biblical texts that the critical scholars challenged, yet the critical scholars are still accepted as scholars, and their methods – which would never be used in any other field because of their ascientific nature – accepted as reliable.

But that is just the Bible, right? Wrong. Take psychology. The theories of giants in that field like Sigmund Freud and Alfred Kinsey have long been discredited. Yet they are still revered as having made great contributions to science, modern thought and human progress, and furthermore their discredited theories are still being taught as fact in our schools and universities. But psychology, save when it is based on experimentation and observation and does not deal with brain’s biology and chemistry, is a “soft science”, right? Sure, except that the theories in the hard sciences like physics and biology turn up erroneous also. Our schools still teach the long-discredited false leads in evolution theory, i.e. the “evolutionary timeline tree chart” that has long been abandoned as unworkable, and fossils allegedly showing primates evolving into humans that were actually either diseased humans or other animals as fact. You would be surprised to know how many of the things that were taught in science class has been quietly abandoned, how much more needs to be pushed from the classroom, and would be if the media held that community to the same scrutiny that it does evangelical and fundamental Christianity.

But that is just arcane science that has little relevance to our daily lives, so what harm does it do? Fine, except that the realm of false prophets also exists in government and policy. Many fantastic, dire predictions have been made and influenced the direction of governments and leaders to who knows what ends. Example? Global warming. Except that they couldn’t call it “global warming” anymore when many places in the world started experiencing prolonged unseasonably cold weather! So, the cause of the cold weather was attributed to greenhouse gas emissions also and “global warming” became “climate change.” I remember a specific prediction from the global warming prophets that had a lot of people frightened: after Hurricane Katrina and other large, powerful destructive hurricanes in 2005, the global warming community (the “climate change” moniker had not yet been instituted) claimed that the increase in the power and severity of the storms were caused by global warming, and that we could expect worse storms – and more of them – thereafter. They predicted that the hurricane season of 2006 was going to be one of the worst in history! All their models said so! What happened? We haven’t had anything approaching Katrina since.

Another example: peak oil. The experts a few decades back claimed that we had maxed out our oil production, that we had exploited the main reserves, that oil production was heading for an inevitable decline, and that we needed to alter our lifestyles and change our way of life to conserve what oil was left or face a global energy crisis. A few years after those dire predictions, some of the largest oil reserves in history were discovered, as well as technological breakthroughs for accessing oil, and possible new sources of oil, such as from shale and sand. (Do not mistake me for an oil company and fossil fuels advocate, quite the contrary I am fully supportive of alternative energy, and believe that a lot of great technology in that area is not being exploited.) And there was also the “overpopulation crisis.” It was promoted by folks who believed that if the world’s population reached 4 billion, it would become unsustainable, and the result would be mass famines and starvation, diseases, wars and environmental degradation. The only solution was immediate global population control programs! Well, now the world population is 6.75 billion and counting.

There is more. Remember when mad cow disease was going to ravage our food supply? Oprah Winfrey said “I’ll never eat a hamburger again!” (Of course, these folks OPPOSE abstinence from fornication as a defense against sexually transmitted disease as the Bible commands, but constantly promotes abstinence from eating the animals that God gave us dominion over and called lawful to eat.) Remember when bird flu was going to kill thousands, or tens of thousands? What about swine flu? Brought to you by the same false prophets who told you to run out and buy cellophane and masking tape to protect yourself from a nuclear terrorist attack after September 11th.

The prophets told us in the 1980s that AIDS was going to wipe out a significant portion of the U.S. population with little or no regard for lifestyle, and needless to say they were wrong, as AIDS rates only increased among homosexuals, the promiscuous and drug users while declining for everyone else. The lead false prophet was surgeon general C. Everett Koop, who used this false information to promote sex education and condom giveaways in schools starting in 3rd grade. Speaking of sex education, the false prophets told us that it would drastically reduce the venereal disease and teen/out of wedlock pregnancy rates, and it did neither. Instead, both shot through the roof, and further there are now new venereal diseases that even condom manufacturers acknowledge their products are useless against (not that you will ever hear that in any public school sex education program).

But wait, there’s more. The prophets told us that abandoning classical education for new education reforms (often based on Freudian or Marxist theories) would lead to markedly improved results and a transformation of society. They were totally wrong, American academic achievement has fallen off the map, and no one talks about it. The prophets told us that divorce and illegitimacy were GOOD for women, children and even most men, but education, poverty, drug use and incarceration rates say otherwise. The prophets claimed that we could eliminate racism through education. How is that working out? They claimed that we could eliminate poverty through government action, and now not only is poverty still a reality (as Jesus Christ said it would in Mark 14:7, not a favorite text among liberal theologians!) but unprecedented numbers of people in America and worldwide are reliant on government assistance of some kind. The false prophets also claimed that the triumph of Soviet communism was inevitable, and the best course of action was resignation, acceptance and learning from and becoming more like them, only to have the Soviet Union collapse and many remaining Marxist regimes like China and Viet Nam adopt more capitalistic economies. Those who predicted that the war on drugs and the war on terror (especially Afghanistan and Iraq) could be effectively and quickly won? Whatever happened to them?

The sociologists who said that eliminating censorship laws and allowing the free trafficking of pornography would make us more progressive and improve relations between the sexes? They have been nowhere to be found as rapists, child molesters and other sex criminals have proliferated, multiplying like rats. The social theorists who claimed that putting criminals in jail wouldn’t lower crime rates because the root causes were economic? Wrong, and verified when crime rates still remained lower despite two severe recessions and deep cuts in social services. (Well, street crime is lower anyway. White collar crime, the rich in their vain attempt to sate their lust for greed, remains through the roof. But the Bible said that this would happen concerning the wealthy also … see the book of James, which is not a favorite among political conservatives or those who teach the false prosperity gospel.) And another example: remember Barack HUSSEIN Obama’s claim that we had to immediately adopt a stimulus package to keep unemployment from hitting 8%? Unemployment has been at or near 10% for over two years! Anti-Christ? Probably not. False prophet? Definitely.

So, on one hand you have ONE Harold Camping, who again due to his rejection of the Holy Trinity and of many Bible texts (he forbids his followers from fellowshipping in local churches in violation of Hebrews 10:25) should not be considered a Christian is a false prophet. On the other hand, you have MANY worldly prophets who due to their embrace of ungodly, anti-Biblical ideas, doctrines, philosophies and imaginations that exalt themselves against God (2 Corinthians 10:5) that are utterly, totally and completely wrong all the time. Now both groups of false prophets are wrong for the same reason: their rejection of Biblical revelation as true, infallible, inerrant, and the final authority in all matters, and not merely things necessary for salvation. But the media and the elites shine the light on Camping to defame and discredit Christians who actually do adhere to the Bible while doing their best to cover up the fact that they so wrong so often on so many issues to the great harm of so many is appalling. It is hypocrisy at best, and a conspiratorial cover-up at worst. If anything, talking about Camping gives them an excuse to keep from having to address the huge mess that these folks have made of the economies, governments and societies of the world. Further, it allows them to transfer the blame from their failed policies – and the rejection of Jesus Christ and the Bible which reveals Him ideology that motivate them – to Christians, as if Christians are undermining their efforts.

Christians, for instance, are blamed for illegitimacy by opposing sex education. Christians are blamed for AIDS by opposing homosexuality. Christians are blamed for poor educational performance for opposing evolution. Christians are blamed for global warming for opposing climate change legislation. Christians are blamed for the wars and tension in the Middle East for supporting Israel and not a Palestinian state (by the way, I reject Zionism, and “Christian” Zionism is especially repugnant to what the Bible actually says, and John Hagee and not a few other false prophets follow this flawed school of interpretation). Christians are called misogynist for adhering to what the Bible says about the roles concerning men and women in the church, in marriages and homes and in society, and for opposing the murder of abortion. Christians are blamed for “Islamophobia” and “anti-Semitism” and “anti-Mormonism” for refusing to deny that Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven, and accused of undermining cultures with our missionary work. And the list goes on and on.

And it is only going to increase. As more and more ideas based on a rejection of the Bible and even of general revelation (see Romans 1:18-32) causes still more decline and failure, anger will increase against Christians. As the world continues to reap the fruit of the sin and wickedness that it sows, it will increasingly see Christians as scapegoats. Instead of repenting of their sins and acknowledging those as the true source of the misery and calamity, the blame will be on Christians for failing to get with the program.

This will climax in first sporadic but then general and organized attempts to silence Christians and remove us from their midst, in the hopes of keeping us from hindering their “progress.” This is far-fetched, you say? Not in the least, because it has already happened. An example is not merely the brutal repression and murder of Christians on a massive scale in the Soviet Union, China, Germany, Sudan and other totalitarian (whether Marxist, Muslim or fascist) regimes in the last century, but the experience of the church in the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire’s wealth, power and culture were declining due to the decadence and incompetence of its ruling classes, and from Nero to Decius, they saw Christians as a scapegoat.

The legitimate Christians refused to join in their state religion (an odd mix of paganism and patriotism not dissimilar from what goes on in our country today, including in not a few churches) so the Roman “gods” were angry. The Christians refused to join in their public activities (regrettably this is not a mark of contemporary Christianity!) so they were called “divisive” and were accused of undermining the common culture (in addition to not being patriotic!) that was allegedly needed to have a cohesive, strong empire. And Christians preached and taught against the immorality, wickedness and depravity of the people, the rulers and the times. They preached against the rampant adultery, homosexuality, violence and child molestation. They preached against the wanton excesses of the upper classes (again, not a mark of contemporary evangelical Christianity, unless the upper classes in view are Hollywood, government bureaucrats and other liberal elites). And they preached against paganism, not only by the people but the official state religion (again, the evangelical Christian preacher who even speaks of the freemasonry and occult that was vital to this nation’s founding and has been influential in it ever since is rare).

Then, the persecution began as sporadic and localized, but climaxed in a brutal, sustained attempt to completely rid the Roman Empire of Christianity. And despite the estimated ten million Christians that were killed by the Roman Empire (something that you will never see mentioned in history books or depicted in movies, as they are more wont to depict Christians as murderous crusaders and the like) and the carnage of the past hundred years, that is only a shadow of the real bloodbath to come. You see, unlike Harold Camping, I do not adhere to a rapture belief. Instead, I believe the Bible when it says that when the anti-Christ comes, it will be given to him to make war against the saints, and to overcome them. I believe the Bible when it says that the time of tribulation, of great sorrows, will be of such severity that it will be cut short so that the saints, the elect, will survive it. And I believe that the saints that were mentioned in Revelation and Matthew 24 that will see that horrible time are not Jews, or those converted by Jews during the great tribulation, but Christians.

And that is what it is all about. That is why turning an obscure preacher with questionable doctrine into an international news story lasting several cycles was done. It is why Westboro Baptist Church, a cult that has existed for decades, is only now becoming international news. It is why Terry Jones, an obscure leader of a small congregation, became an international pariah for burning a Koran when not only Muslims but the United States military routinely burns Bibles!

It is why terrorists attacks committed by atheists like Timothy McVeigh and Eric Rudolph are attributed to Christians. It is why violence against abortion clinics and doctors is an issue oft raised against Christians despite the fact that less than 5 such incidents have occurred in over 20 years, and only 1 in the past 10. The Hutaree militia drew headlines and a massive sting operation from the federal government as a Christian terrorism threat to rival that posed by Al Qaeda, and it turned out to be just a bunch of guys spinning yarns over the Internet.  Yet, the Marxist “liberation theology” types, not a few of whom were trained Soviet infiltrators, fanned the flames for any number of bloody murderous third world Marxist coups with their organizing and “preaching”, and the truth about their activities – and the level of support that they received from their ideological and religious fellow travelers in the U.S. – has never been documented by the media, Hollywood or our schools. Neither has the true history of our own “civil rights movement” – how it duped the black church and many well meaning white Americans into supporting Marxist subversive tactics, and how that movement was also organized by and rife with Soviet agents and sympathizers – been told, and nor can you expect them to spill the beans on their own false prophets.

The agitation propaganda against Christians will continue in the future just as it did in the Roman Empire. Christians should be heedful of the times, which means that we must be aware of what is going on, aware of where it is headed, and aware of whose agenda it is serving. That is why Christians should end these “battles” over “being represented in Hollywood” and the “culture wars” and “religious right politics” (and religious left politics) in favor of opening our eyes to the true state of affairs. Instead, we should study our Bibles, study about the early church during its time of persecution before Christianity was co-opted by the Roman Empire so that by learning about the church’s past, we can learn about the future – our future. Of course, the Bible tells us that Jesus Christ will win in the end and vindicate and save His church. But make no mistake: just as Jesus Christ suffered Gethsemane and His passion before His resurrection and glorification, the church, being less than its Master Jesus Christ, must also suffer many things. Christians must be prepared so that we might stand during the time to come, and endure to the end. This is a battle that will be won not by guns, money or governments but by faith in the God who is fighting on our side and prevail.

It must be asked: which side are you on? The side of God, or of the wicked? Though Camping was wrong, his error only proved the Bible to be correct. The Bible makes it clear that the wicked perish and that Jesus Christ and those who believe in Him will triumph. If you do not believe in Jesus Christ, make no mistake, you will be counted among the wicked, because no matter how good you perceive yourself to be, before a holy and perfect God you are a sinner. I urge you, repent of your sins, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved.

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7 Responses to “Why Does The Media Focus Only On Harold Camping?”

  1. Pattie Farm said

    Have you considered these scriptures in your consideration?

    If you hate Zionism how are you a Christian. How can you call yourself a believer and have hatred for anyone much less the Jews who God has already punished more then any.

    What is Zionism? Zionism is the Jewish national movement of rebirth and renewal in the land of Israel – the historical birthplace of the Jewish people.

    Romans 9:29 Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: “Though the number of the Israelites be like the sand by the sea, only the remnant will be saved.

    Jeremiah 44:14 None of the remnant of Judah who have gone to live in Egypt will escape or survive to return to the land of Judah, to which they long to return and live; none will return except a few fugitives.”

    Isaiah 4:2 In that day the Branch of the LORD will be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the land will be the pride and glory of the survivors in Israel. Isaiah 10:20 In that day the remnant of Israel, the survivors of the house of Jacob,will no longer rely on him who struck them down but will truly rely on the LORD, the HOLY one of Israel.

    Now the one that Israel relies on is the USA and right now our President has said go back to the pre 67 war boarders?
    I think the word is speaking of the USA, Jacobs grandchildren are said to be the roots of the USA and England.

    Read this verses sounds like they are the Roman Catholic group; It says in Isaiah 23:15 At that time Tyre will be forgotten for seventy years, the span of a king’s life. But at the end of these seventy years, it will happen to Tyre as in the song of the prostitute:

    If this is Germany then it is speaking of WWII was between
    1939-1945. 1939+70=2009 or 1945+70=2015. Ending on May 8th. Now does that mean if it is Germany that the war won’t be til 2015? It is highly likely, Nato meets Sept. 2011, May from Sept is 8 months not 6, so it may take 2 months to before the actual signing of an agreement. Maybe they give them 60 day. That would make the 3 1/2 years for the testing of the Christians and then they will all be brought to Gods War of wrath but I would say we are in for a bumpy ride.

    What this says to me is it is the two witnesses that establish the word. 70 years for the nation of Israel, which is equal to the Babylonian time and 70 years for Tyre-Rome. Also people don’t realize but the Holocaust was exactly 3 1/2 years of the suffering of the Jews.

    So when God says he is not a respecter of persons and he treats us all the same he does, Israels peoples part that won’t see the wrath had their debt to the wrath paid by the Holocaust I think.

    The Roman empire was wounded and regained power during Word War II, it seems to me that the coming of the power came by the way of Germany.

    But part of my problem is right now the US President seems to be on the end of demanding they negotiate to give away what they gained in the 6 day war of 1967 when God sent his Angels to help them. I am trying to find away for the American people to tell NATO we as a people are not for this action. We love Gods’ children. Look at the Tornado’s and the crops in Europe and around the world because people don’t care about the world any more?

    The Jesusits that separated and left said that the Pope of the Vatican takes orders from the Black Pope of Germany.

    The name of Tyre is used widely from what I can tell by the Germans still till this day. Rome shared with the Germans much of the murdering they did in Turkey and the middle east. It is said that the Germans who killed 6 million were shocked by the acts of Rome-the Vatican. To me that is saying something. I don’t know personally, I read this but it is in History books.

    The Bible speaks of the Little horn will rise in the 6th and then in the 7th of the resurrections of the Empire. The Bible clearly states about the 70 years in Isaiah and sure enough as stated above they came back into power during those years of WWII. The papacy reinstatement to rule Italy and act in the earth again as church leader was at the end of world war two.

    What did Jesus Christ say was the most important commandment? Does not all things of salvation hinges upon it?

    Mark 12:33 To love him with all your heart. with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.”

    Hosea 6:6 For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings.

    Matthew 9:13 But go and learn what this means: “I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’ For I have not come to call t he righteous , but sinners.”

    Matthew 5:43-44-45 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44.) but I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,45.)
    that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.

    Matthew 11:19 The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, “Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and “sinners.”‘ But wisdom is proved right by her actions.”

    I mean no harm but I have no idea who this Harold Camping is?

    But I would say to follow man who speak different than the word you will fall in a ditch, right?

    Ephesians 4:5-6-7 one Lord, one faith, one baptism;6.)one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. but to each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it.

    I do believe we the Christians will be here for a period as it says the enemy will wear out the saints if he could. I think this is already happening, but maybe it is in the USA for putting a non-believer in office to run our affairs but yet he know not the way.

    Also says for 10 days in Revelations it says he will overcome the saints.

    The question to me is this, is tjis passage for the saints with out oil in their lamps. In other words they are just complaining and not reading or studying the word and staying faithful and prayed up, watching and waiting on him, if what we are required to do right?

    Because when God says in many scripture we shall not endure his wrath, it seems like we have gone home to the marriage supper at that time. But I think not till we are tested about taking the mark of the beast and the one world government and craziness which seems has already started to come upon the earth, in my opinion?

    The fig tree was born in 1948 he said that generation would not pass. The word speaks of a generation as 70 years, 70+1948 when Israel was born =2018. That says to me that the anti-christ and the beginning of Jacobs sorrow starts in 2011. The NATO hearing about Israel and the Muslim peoples Palestine is in September.

    So we know what is going to happen to the best glimpse God gave us and beyond we must have faith and pray that our nation not be used as a harlot and that the non-believer be told to get out.

    • Job said

      “The fig tree was born in 1948 he said that generation would not pass.”

      The fig tree was born with Isaac. See Galatians 4:22-31

      “The word speaks of a generation as 70 years”

      The Bible does not set a fixed time for generation. In the Bible, “generation” was a general term, similar to “an age” or “a time.” It was never used as a specific time interval i.e. day, week, year. It is similar to how “a day’s journey” was a general distance, not a fixed distance like a cubit. The Bible heavily uses both standard measurements and non-standard measurements, and “generation” was a non-standard one. Also, the Bible uses some measures as metaphors or symbols for others, such as using “day” to mean a period of time (such as the length of a king’s reign) or “week” for a year.

      Sometimes in the Bible, a generation is 20 years. Sometimes it is 40 years. Sometimes it is 100 years. Sometimes – and this is a metaphorical usage – a generation is an age that can last hundreds of years or more, like the entire history of a tribe, nation, or a man and all his lineage. And when you add in “prophetic speech”, which has short term and later term fulfillment, a generation can mean BOTH “20/40/100 years” to the people living in that time, and an age, like the history of a nation OR THE HISTORY OF THE CHURCH to posterity.

      You have to take things like that into account when you are interpreting the Bible, and especially prophecy and eschatology. A book that does a great job of explaining these things are “Plowshares and Pruning Hooks.”

      As far as Zionism goes, there really needs to be a discussion on what the New Testament actually tells Christians to do. The nations – including the Jews – and history are in God’s hands. God is taking care of those things. God is fulfilling prophecy, dates, events, timelines etc. And in those things, God does not need our help. We don’t need to “stand with Israel” or “support Israel” because A) God is doing those things and more important B) the New Testament never in any place tells us to do those things.

      The New Testament tells Christians to preach and live the gospel, to make converts and disciples, and to keep the moral and ethical teachings of the New Testament (the sermon on the mount, the teachings of Paul, Peter, John, James, Jude etc.) and to maintain our churches and families. Anything else is adding to the Bible, anything more is placing burdens on us that Jesus Christ did not decree for us to carry. We cannot and should not adhere to these systems that have nothing to do with the actual contents of the New Testament. The New Testament says that God has not cast aside the Jews, and that all Israel will be saved. However, the New Testament also says that until that time comes, the church has to tend to its business, and the church’s business is not defending Israel from Iran, Syria, Egypt and the Palestinians. Show me where in the pages of the New Testament that it says that such is our job. You can’t even do it using the Old Testament, because nowhere does the Old Testament tell the Jews to rely on other people to defend, preserve and save them. Instead, the Jews were to rely only on God, and God judged and punished them when they went to the Egyptians and other nations’ seeking help.

      If you want to support and be a blessing to the Jewish people, pray for them and share the gospel with them. The Bible does not tell you to do anything else concerning the Jews or Israel. My goodness … the Jews and Israel are barely mentioned in the New Testament after the gospels and the first half of Acts. Why is that? Because this is the times of the Gentiles! Right now the Jews are blinded, and their salvation will not come until the times of the Gentiles is over, the fulness of the Gentiles be come in (Romans 11:25), which means when the great commission is fulfilled. Right now, we have all these Christians “standing with Israel” (which Jesus Christ never told us to do) and ignoring the task of getting the gospel to the 380 million unreached people (which Jesus Christ DID tell us to do). Doctrines that are responsible for this faulty perspective and disobedience must be abandoned.

      For over 1500 years, Christians abandoned the great commission and the other imperatives of the New Testament because we were too busy running our church-states, our “new Jerusalems.” Finally, after the Baptist and similar movements got us out of that nonsense and back to the gospel, we want to abandon it again in favor of focusing on Israel. When will we finally believe and obey the Lord Jesus Christ when He told us that His kingdom is a spiritual kingdom, not an earthly kingdom, and its current visible manifestation is the church, the body of believers, not some political church-state, and not the Jews or Israel? Goodness, the first chapter of Acts, the apostles asked Jesus Christ if He was going to establish an earthly kingdom centered in Jerusalem and Israel, and Jesus Christ replied that now wasn’t the time, and instead now is the time to focus on the church, and ascended to heaven. Now we want to pretend as if He didn’t say those things, and focus on Israel or any other earthly state?

      Also, as I stated above, the return of Jesus Christ will not happen until after A) the gospel has gone out to all nations and B) there is a great falling away. That is Matthew 24:14 and 2 Thessalonians 2:3. Do you stand against those scriptures? Do you reject them and say that they are not true? Is your position that they were never uttered and inspired by the Holy Spirit, but were merely added by men to serve human purposes later? If not, then why do you disbelieve them? Unless your claim is that we are going to evangelize 380 million people, many of them having languages that no Christian even speaks yet, by 2018, and that some massive falling away from the faith is going to occur by then? Is that your position?

      And that is why so many people are looking at Israel. They don’t want to believe what the Bible actually says concerning the return of Jesus Christ … that it will happen after the great commission is fulfilled and the falling away. They want Jesus Christ to come back sooner. They want instant gratification, and further, they want it to be based on something that they can see with their eyes (the political nation-state of Israel) and measure with their watches (a generation … 20 years, 40 years, 80 years etc. from 1948. Or maybe 1967 when Israel got Jerusalem back?). They want to take something that is spiritual (the fulfillment of the great commission and the end of the times, age or GENERATION of the Gentiles, and after that the falling away, which will happen because the church will have fulfilled its primary mission on earth save that of glorifying God … the church was founded to make disciples from every nation, and once disciples are made of every nation, the church will have served is purpose on earth … the church wasn’t created to rule or to govern, but to evangelize and disciple!) and make it temporal. But God is an eternal Spirit, not of flesh, so His ways are going to be after the Spirit, not after the manner of corruptible, temporal things. The church is going to be conformed to the image of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is not going to be conformed to the image of the things of this world, because Jesus Christ overcame the world! Is that not the message of the Bible?

      1. Israel is God’s business, not the church’s.
      2. The church’s chief business on earth is the great commission.
      3. A “generation” has no fixed length in the Bible even when used in its literal sense, and certainly not when used in its metaphorical, symbolic, typological or spiritual sense.
      4. The return of Jesus Christ will not occur until the fulfillment of the great commission and the great falling away.

      If you feel the need to deny these truths, then it is not me that you are rejecting, but God’s Word.

  2. Devon said

    I think we all know why the Media promotes Harold Camping or other fringe ‘christians’…it serves the devil’s purpose in setting us up to be persecuted and hated…and I mean real persecution as in physical…..the nazi’s did the same thing with the Jews in the 30’s…they mocked them and dehumanized them….the world media is doing the same thing to Christians today… can see it a mile away if you are of the faith….and it will only get worse!

  3. Devon said

    Btw, that is a real good post Job…lots of good points you made there….


  4. George said

    Camping’s calculations were wrong and his assumptions naive, but Rapture and Judgment Day are still relevant! Humanity needs to know the truth. Listen to this very compelling recording from a new spiritual group that is making waves and getting the word out to be spiritually prepared with more than a simple prayer and some bible verses.

    • Job said


      “You are special people who stood up for God during the End Times. Thus, you still have time to get ready a Physical Body Ascension and learn how to consciously work with the sun’s Rapture Energies so you are prepared to Ascend at anytime, from anywhere.

      We can teach you how to use Rapture Energies so you can be part of those who leave for the City of Gold in the prophesized Archangelic level Physical Body Ascension Process that will occur before December 21, 2012.

      These 3 steps enable one to begin training at home with Rapture Energies and to partake each week in our Sabbath’s guided visits to the City of Gold.”

      Huh? Come again?

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