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On Franklin Graham And The Pentagon’s Rescinding Their Invitation

Posted by Job on April 26, 2010

You may have heard about how Franklin Graham was disinvited to a Pentagon prayer service because of his refusal to rescind comments that he made attacking Islam, as it is the subject of not a little controversy. Two thoughts.

1. Some use incidents as these as evidence that America is turning away from Christianity. My position is that nations and governments are all of the world, and as such have rejected Jesus Christ and will be judged by this same Jesus Christ. While the rejection of Jesus Christ by our nation and its institutions is perhaps more overt in some respects than in the past, and while there probably are indeed fewer legitimate Christians in America in terms of the percentage of the population than there were in times past, America is still as it always was … of the world. The church of Jesus Christ is the ekklesia, the elect that is called out of the world. Further, America is just one of many nations that has existed and will exist in human history. While God has used America’s Christians to do a lot of great things (i.e. in missionary evangelism), let us not fall into the deceptive thinking that America has a special standing before God; that America is or ever was in some sort of covenant relationship with God, or any of the other myths of American culture and tradition. There was only one nation brought into existence as an act of special creation by God with the purpose of being the light to the nations. That nation was Israel, and Israel’s purpose was fulfilled in Jesus Christ. God did not create America or any other nation to carry out the purposes that Jesus Christ – God in the flesh – already accomplished.

2. For the record, I agree with what Franklin Graham said against Islam. This places me in league with virtually all of the supporters of Graham in this controversy. The point of divergence is that I will apply what Graham said against Islam to Judaism, Mormonism, Roman Catholicism and any other false or heretical religion or belief system that denies God’s revelation and exalts itself against the God of the Bible. So Graham attacks Islam, suffers (minor) consequences for it, and is the evangelical hero of the moment in some quarters. But suppose Graham were to say the same about Judaism? These same people wouldn’t touch him with a ten foot pole. Many of them would be front and center denouncing Graham as anti-Semitic and hateful, and they would by no means be limited to premillennial dispensationalists. The very same people who run their little “Jihad Watch” websites and blogs reciting violent statements in the Koran ignore that the very same exhortations to commit genocide and kill nonbelievers appear in the Old Testament, making them perfectly valid for Jews to practice. They know full well that Jews are operating in darkness because they reject the New Testament revelation – that of an explicitly fully revealed Jesus Christ – that puts the Old Testament into context. Yet had Graham gone after Jews the way that he did Muslims, how many people would find his being expelled from the Pentagon prayer event to be overly objectionable? The same number as would had Graham said those things against Roman Catholics and Mormons. The conservative evangelicals on the religious right, who rely on conservative Catholics, Mormons and Jews, would in particular be apoplectic. Which, of course, is why you rarely hear evangelical leaders speaking against those false religions anymore.

Yes, I know that Franklin Graham made those comments after September 11th, when Muslims killed a great many Americans. But in addition to Graham’s unwillingness to challenge Roman Catholics on their many heresies because he is an ecumenical sort like his father, it is curious that Graham was moved to such strong speech by Muslims’ killing Americans but not Americans’ killing Muslims. What does Graham think of our overthrowing the Iranian government over oil profits? What does Graham think of our overthrowing the Iraqi government to put Saddam Hussein in power, and then sponsoring Hussein’s Iraq government in a war against this same Iran (after they turned on us) that killed millions of Muslims? What does Graham think of first war against Iraq, which happened because Hussein invaded Kuwait as part of a scheme to get OPEC to raise oil prices because our proxy war against Iran left his nation broke? What does Graham think of the crushing sanctions against Iraq after the first Iraq War, or the second Iraq War? Apparently, it is just fine for America to kill millions of Muslims with wars, proxy wars and sanctions. We’re America, and we can do whatever we want, right? But when the Muslim world responds to our killing millions of THEM by killing a few thousand of US, this is how Graham responds (and keep in mind, this was Graham’s softened public relations backtrack from his original, harsher comments)? Graham talks about how Islam treats its women when America invented pornography and is trying to impose legalized abortion on the rest of the world through the U.N. and other NGOs?

Here is a quote: “Graham later wrote an op-ed in The Wall Street Journal saying he did not believe Muslims were evil because of their faith, but “as a minister … I believe it is my responsibility to speak out against the terrible deeds that are committed as a result of Islamic teaching.”  Fine. But let’s hear Graham, as a minister, replace “Muslim” with “Jew”, “Mormon”, “Roman Catholic”, “Jehovah’s Witness” or “AMERICAN” in that sentence. Theologically, he would be justified. But if he did, the same people defending him over this now would have rejected him over it. The reason is that these people aren’t interested in legitimate Bible-based Christianity. If they were, it would be Muslim, Mormon, Jew, Catholic … six of one, half a dozen of the other.

Instead, these people are fighting political and cultural battles. Because after all, politics and culture – the world – is the only sphere where preferring the Muslim to the Jew or Catholic makes sense. It’s the only sphere where an aggressively hostile attitude towards Muslims can coexist with the “Christians must support Israel!” mindset when in truth there is no New Testament justification for EITHER.

Now again, what Franklin Graham said against Islam was 100% true. The problem is that the same people who supported Graham in what he said against Islam would abandon him in a heartbeat were he to say the same against Jews, Catholics, or for that matter whatever policy that got us into this Iraq/Iran mess. The reason for this double standard, this hypocrisy is worldliness, and this worldliness is not something that can be blamed on the people that had Graham disinvited from the prayer event.

12 Responses to “On Franklin Graham And The Pentagon’s Rescinding Their Invitation”

  1. roze albina ches said

    Now, what do you expect? Why would a Christian be able to attack another religion at the Pentagon whether it is true or NOT? You’d be kicking and pitching a fit of they let a Muslim in there to bash Christians..So lets keep it real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! geez.. and you wonder why people think us Christians are NUTS?? I’m a born again bible believing Christian. But man, I feel like I’m baby sitting sometimes with ya’ll !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  2. Rudy said

    Turning away from Christianity? The United States is the most filthy, vile, hateful piece of Satanic excrement the earth has ever witnessed.

    It needs a good vaporization.

    Now they are profiling their own citizens. They have sex with little girls in foreign countries, 6000 pedophile priests, porn as an industry.

    Not Christian. Give me a damned break. This country needs to be wiped off the face of the planet. I hope God does not tarry.

  3. hoaxdetector said

    I’m sure glad to find that you have oil politics all worked out. It must be good to have as much clarity and assured confidence in your interpretation of history as you do in theology and the Bible.

  4. Devon in Canada. said

    Uhh….yeah…uhm…Job, you sound like a moral relativist here…any actions of brutality in the hebrew bible are a reflection of God’s Holiness…they are not open ended doctrines that are taught in the Koran and Sunnah….wow…this is pretty simple to see Job…God told the Jews to take the land and for the most part they did so…the Lord told them to use violent means to do so…again they did so…they were NEVER told to force others to convert or to go out of there boundaries and attack other countries unlike Islam and its directives….

    The reason no Christian Leader would say such things about Judiasm is because they would be wrong…Islam is indeed a brutal death cult as founded by Muhammed…that is the plain truth..

    Judiasm, in all its forms, is not inherently violent ..same goes for Roman Catholics and Mormons (with some obvious exceptions of course)… but they are just as lost as the muslims are..that is true. While there are bad and violent Jews just as there are bad and violent Gentiles, you cannot find from there Biblical text the doctrine of ‘jihad’ or the jewish version.

    If Franklin Graham had said Judiasm is insufficient for salvation, he would be right…and indeed he has alluded to that shortly after 9-11 when talking to Judy Woodruff of CNN where Franklin stated that Christ is the only way….of course Judy was appalled at this ad nauseum.

    And no, we wouldn’t abandon him if he said that these other world religions were wrong…where do you get this nonsense???

    Islam is uniquely violent and brutal…that is obvious…no other religion and there texts come close…of course, in terms of lostness before Christ, all muslims, jews, hindus, athiests, buddhists are in the same boat.

    I am , however, glad to report that more and more muslims are coming to Christ as we see in particular in Shia islam in Persia…and other places like the Berbers of North Africa and Kurds of Mesopatamia…

    Islam has always been an interest of mine as i grew up with Liberal muslims and learned of islam early on!

    Btw..just for the record, I do not share you views on Roman Catholism completely….but that is for another debate! Ha ha …

  5. All Christians in the so-called free-world, need to read Jeremiah! God’s judgment is always sure! And this was nothing short of moral and spiritual cowardice to rescind Franklin Graham’s in invitation!

  6. John Kaniecki said

    Rudy,

    Hi hope you are well.

    I wonder where you are from?

    The United States is not a monlothic organ of Satanic evil. There are a few here who strive to do good. When God was going to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah he said he would not destroy the righteous with the wicked. So until the day that the good ones are gathered into prison camps and hunted down I suggest you withdraw your desire of hurt. It is more fitting for a Christian to call for righteousness and judgement. There will be plenty of death, blood and destruction to go around shortly I am afraid.

    Do not forget what the Word of God teaches. Proverbs 24:17-18 “Rejoice not when thy enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth: Lest the Lord see it, and it displease him, and he turn away his wrath from him.”

    Love,

    John

  7. Right on John!

    — — —

    Rudy,

    Recall the great city of Ninevah in the book of Jonah.

    Jonah was watching, waiting in the heat for God to destroy Ninevah for its wickedness… and God grew up a gourd to shade Jonah from his discomfort. And Jonah rejoiced.

    But then God commanded a worm to kill the gourd – so that when the sun rose there was no shade… and Jonah mourned the loss of the gourd.

    So God asked Jonah if he was “exceedingly grieved” for the gourd… and Jonah said that indeed he was.

    So God said, “You took pity on the gourd, for which you did not labor, nor did you make it grow,” reminding him that the gourd had grown up one night through the work of God – and that it had died before the nexy night.

    Then God asked Jonah, “And shall I Myself not take pity upon Nineveh, the great city, in which dwell more than one hundred and twenty thousand people who do not know their right hand from their left?”

    In other words – if Jonah had compassion on A PLANT that he had not made… then how much MORE compassion would God have on a city full of people who He had created? Again, how much morea city of people who were in spiritual darkness?

    If God Himself will have mercy on humanity – shouldn’t YOU also?

    — — —

    Job,

    Been a long time! Glad to see you’re still kickin’!

    BUT – You said above, “Franklin Graham made those comments after September 11th, when Muslims killed a great many Americans.”

    MUSLIMS HAD *NOTHING* TO DO WITH 9/11!

    ‘Israel Did 9/11 – All The Proof In The World’:

    http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5367

  8. Very well said. Because of the great influence of “Christian Zionism,” dispensationalism, and other faulty theology, many have exalted Judaism as if it were on par with–and just as full of truth as–the faith that Jesus established by His work on the cross. This makes Judaism nearly untouchable in much of the American church. The same goes for Catholicism in far too many circles. We have indeed idolized our political sentiments and embraced worldliness on an epic scale, and the only proper response is to repent and develop a love for Biblical truth.

  9. callmeroy said

    05/05/2010 Why did CNN just pull the Campbell Brown interview last night with Franklin Graham about Islam?
    Or the headline I like to call “The big nail in the coffin of the Obama Administration.”
    Rev. Franklin Graham talking with CNN’s Campbell Brown last night, where he said he does not believe he would have been disinvited from speaking at the National Day of Prayer observance at the Pentagon if “Bill Clinton or George Bush” were President. Graham stopped short of saying he believes President Obama had anything to do with the decision, but said he believes there are those in Obama’s Administration who advocated for the decision. On Islam, Graham stood by his past remarks when he was asked by Campbell Brown if Islam is an “evil religion.” Graham responded: “Well, Campbell, if you take just the way they treat women, I have a real problem with Islam – I do. The way they treat women – it is horrid. It is not a peaceful religion that President Bush and President Obama tried to tell the American people it is – it is not that at all.”
    Franklin Graham later said “Islam is what it is” when Brown attempted to talk as if it is no different than Christianity or Judaism.

    UPDATE: I just noticed that CNN is saying the video is “no longer available.” Don’t know if this is temporary of if they have pulled it for good. If they have pulled it, it only serves to illustrate the bias going on here that Graham was talking about. UPDATE 2: I found video of the interview at YouTube uploaded by MoxNews. It is actually a more extensive clip. I’m leaving the CNN clip that is “no longer available” as a reminder that it has disappeared or been pulled.

    Comments
    Graham is a courageous man who is stating the obvious to millions of Americans – that Islam is not a peaceful religion. But his words fall like a hammer to those on the politically-correct Left who don’t even believe there is such a thing as right and wrong, good and evil. To them, all things are shades of gray, especially when it comes to religion. But all you have to do is look at what Islam produces in a society where it is the dominant religion. Where on earth is there a place that Islam is dominant where you also find respect for human rights, freedom of religion, and an absence of terrorist jihadist activity?

    One last note: The Manchurian President: Barack Obama’s Ties to Communists, Socialists and other Anti-American Extremists,” is currently the best-selling book in the country as of today. Members of the news media, including from publications such as Time and Newsweek, have reacted harshly to the announcement of the No. 1 non-fiction book in America, which investigates President Obama. Bye, bye, Obumma

  10. call me Roy said

    Why did CNN just pull the Campbell Brown interview last night with Franklin Graham about Islam?
    Or the headline I like to call “The big nail in the coffin of the Obama Administration.”
    Rev. Franklin Graham talking with CNN’s Campbell Brown last night, where he said he does not believe he would have been disinvited from speaking at the National Day of Prayer observance at the Pentagon if “Bill Clinton or George Bush” were President. Graham stopped short of saying he believes President Obama had anything to do with the decision, but said he believes there are those in Obama’s Administration who advocated for the decision.
    On Islam, Graham stood by his past remarks when he was asked by Campbell Brown if Islam is an “evil religion.” Graham responded: “Well, Campbell, if you take just the way they treat women, I have a real problem with Islam – I do. The way they treat women – it is horrid. It is not a peaceful religion that President Bush and President Obama tried to tell the American people it is – it is not that at all.”
    Franklin Graham later said “Islam is what it is” when Brown attempted to talk as if it is no different than Christianity or Judaism.

    UPDATE: I just noticed that CNN is saying the video is “no longer available.” Don’t know if this is temporary of if they have pulled it for good. If they have pulled it, it only serves to illustrate the bias going on here that Graham was talking about. UPDATE 2: I found video of the interview at YouTube uploaded by MoxNews. It is actually a more extensive clip. I’m leaving the CNN clip that is “no longer available” as a reminder that it has disappeared or been pulled.

    Comments
    Graham is a courageous man who is stating the obvious to millions of Americans – that Islam is not a peaceful religion. But his words fall like a hammer to those on the politically-correct Left who don’t even believe there is such a thing as right and wrong, good and evil. To them, all things are shades of gray, especially when it comes to religion. But all you have to do is look at what Islam produces in a society where it is the dominant religion. Where on earth is there a place that Islam is dominant where you also find respect for human rights, freedom of religion, and an absence of terrorist jihadist activity?

  11. call me Roy said

    Rudy

    You sound like one of those movie stars who played the terrorist parts in the “True Lies” movie. Your speech betrays you. Oh wait, maybe it was the movie “Black Sunday.” Or was it “A Son of the Sahara” or “The Black Stallion”, or maybe “Iron Eagle” or “Death Before Dishonor” or “Navy SEALs” or I know it’s “The Delta Force” or “Patriot Games” or could it be “Executive Decision” or many peoples favorite “Reel Bad Arabs.” Gee, there are so many to pick from. Anyway, you go out and rent these and I am sure you will enjoy watching yourself. If you find that these movies have helped you in any way, please, for your own sake, go see if you can get some anger management help. There is help out there. God will help anyone who asks.

    Also, the famous author Joel Richardson breaks new ground with a devastating account of the possible connection between the Biblical Antichrist and the Islamic Mahdi. The Bible predicts that in the last days a charismatic leader will establish a global following in the name of peace. The Quran also predicts that a man will rise up to lead the nations, pledging to usher in an era of peace. The man in the Quran is called the Mahdi, or Islam’s savior. However, the man in the Bible is the Antichrist. Could it be possible that they are one and the same person? Richardson’s stunning research and analysis suggest that it is.
    I would recommend that you put this on your reading list, it could open some eyes?

  12. a prayer meeting inside the pentegram, pentagon? Curious place for a prayer meeting, as curious as obelisk Christians visit on Sun-day and call spires.

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