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Rick Warren And The New Evangelical Social Gospel

Posted by Job on December 21, 2008

I am trying to come up with something on Rick Warren’s speaking at the Obama inauguration that goes beyond the new world order Council on Foreign Relations one world religion implications that I have discussed in the past. In the meantime, please consider this piece on the matter from Beliefnet.com. Now I have staked out the most extreme position on Warren, which is that he is not a legitimate Christian pastor, and that the Southern Baptist Convention should have long ago severed ties with the fellow. Perusing the reaction to this story, I am becoming aware of how rare, indeed marginal, my estimation of Warren is.

Rick Warren on Loving Muslims and Melissa Etheridge (Report by Juan Cole)

9 Responses to “Rick Warren And The New Evangelical Social Gospel”

  1. theoldadam said

    “Blessed are those who are persecuted for my sake.”

    Rick Warren wants to be liked by…everybody. This social gospel stuff is exactly what the mainline churches are doing at the expense of Jesus Christ.

    Here are two words that the ‘please love me’ types just can’t seem to utter these days….’Jeus only’.

  2. Job said

    Theoldadam:

    This is not merely an issue of Rick Warren wishing to be liked. Rick Warren has an agenda. Just like Billy Graham had an agenda. What, precisely, is Rick Warren’s agenda? There are plenty of pastors out there trying to be liked that are not trying to be major players in globalist politics. And by the way … Warren IS NOT trying to be liked by people like me. He has written choice words about people like me on more than one occasion, basically calling us Pharisees.

  3. theoldadam said

    Of course Rick Warrem will call people who disagree with him “Pharisees”.

    I still say that the unwillingness to stand up for Christ and Christ alone, and to pander to the wide range of political and religious communities is a desire to prop up himself and his brand of Christianity.

    The theology of ‘doing’ is also a huge part of Southern Baptist theology. Rick Warren is a Southern Baptist, at least in his theology.

  4. I hope you don’t mind me responding to this.

    Job said:

    He has written choice words about people like me on more than one occasion, basically calling us Pharisees.

    That is because you call a rain drop, what it is, a rain drop.

    The disciples asked Jesus what would be the sign of the end. Jesus first words were very interesting indeed. He said, “Take heed lest any man deceive you. He didn’t talk about the devil, the world, hate, sin or a host of other things taking place in the world. His first words were man and deception. Mark 13:4-6.
    Then he explained how deception was to come. “For many shall come in my name, saying I am christ.”

    Notice he didn’t say -the christ, because that would refer to him. Nor did he say (a) christ, meaning another. But he chose his words; (saying I am christ). Christ means anointed. In other words, I come representing the Lord, (in my name) and I’m anointed. This has become the buzz word amongst Christians, especially men like Warren. Every where we turn we hear someone talking about the anointing and how one can come and get their anointing in their life. Well I don’t want their anointing, I want what comes from God the Father, not men.

    John 2:26 reads;

    2:26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

    2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

    The anoint is to teach us how to abide in truth.

    The bible clearly said we would see these days, when men would not adhere to sound doctrine. Lovers of themselves, puffed up, heady, high minded, having a form (their form) of godliness, but denying the power, (the Holy Spirit that brings change in ones heart) thereof. The word tells us from such turn away, II Tim 3:5.
    I like you have been pushed aside a told to shut up. But when I read the bible and how it tells me the day would come when anyone that kills you thinks he does God service, I can’t help but smile.
    Warren is another man caught in the devils trap, wanting to be on the worlds list of godly men. But we seek to do the will of the Father and care not what the world thinks. I pray you continue in your stand for Godliness, Your brother.

  5. Job said

    Theoldadam:

    “The theology of ‘doing’ is also a huge part of Southern Baptist theology. Rick Warren is a Southern Baptist, at least in his theology.”

    Well, I am not certain that the term “Southern Baptist” has a strict, hard and fast definition anymore. The denomination was fundamentalist, went through a liberal period, and after the “conservative takeover” of the denomination, what came out was more “evangelical” than fundamental. But you still have a lot of fundamental Southern Baptists out there. By the way, I don’t have so much of a problem with a theology of “doing” so long as “doing” is not your theology. Jesus Christ made it clear that Christians who are not “doing” are just as false as Christians who have false beliefs. Faith without works is indeed dead, just as works in the absence of orthopraxy are dead.

    But Warren, well both his works and doctrines rise up against scripture. Which is why I say that I do not regard him as a legitimate Christian pastor. Which again, is why he calls my sort Pharisees.

    Reverend Patrick Williams:

    Thank you, and I am glad that you call raindrops what they are too. I really am seeing in these wicked times how few people who are willing to call raindrops what they are, even when there are thousands of them being driven by the wind into their very faces to the point where they are being drowned in the deluge.

  6. theoldadam said

    “Jesus Christ made it clear that Christians who are not “doing” are just as false as Christians who have false beliefs. Faith without works is indeed dead, just as works in the absence of orthopraxy are dead.”

    I hope you I am “doing” enough.

  7. nan said

    Rick Warren is going to go whichever way the wind blows. Whatever will get him noticed and in the public eye he will do and say whatever it takes to make it happen. Joel Osteen is the same way. Yes, they say they are against gay marriage, but it’s in a layed back sneaky sort of way, like, I kinda sorta am against it, but I could change my mind and go for it. You Know. Satan has tranformed himself into an angel of light.

  8. Job said

    Nan:

    Rick Warren has apparently already removed his opposition to homosexuality from his church website. http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/purpose-driven-madness/rick-warren-scrubs-anti-gay-language-from-saddleback-site/
    So the issue is not Warren, it is Christian leaders who refuse to denounce him or sever ties with him; a Christian scene that generally tolerates him.

  9. John Kaniecki said

    Job,

    Hi hope you are well.

    See what is happening. All of the so called Christian leaders are gravitating towards the same thing that everything is acceptable. They deny that Jesus is the only Way to heaven. People such as yourself, me and many others on this blog will be viewed as extreme. The longer the groups converge the more power and base they will consolidate. Instead of criticizing you as a pharisee they will fry you as a heritic!

    May God be praised! We have chosen the way of the cross and sacrifice and suffering is required. But I think God has more than a few suprises to deal out to these phonies. Remember anyone that denies the gospel is not with us. We among ourselves may dispute many things but at least we all know that Jesus is the only Way to heaven.

    Understand also the God sends them a strong delusion.

    Love,

    John

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