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Apprising Ministries Is Back After Overcoming The Satanic Attack!

Posted by Job on August 2, 2008

New format too! Now if only we could locate Ephesians511 … (yes, I really do need to give that one up!)

KEN SILVA ON CROSSTALK: FREE SPEECH FOR BLOGGERS AND RICHARD ABANES

SETTING RICHARD ABANES STRAIGHT ON MY RICK WARREN ATTACK

BATTLES IN THE BLOGOSPHERE…when conflicts arise, how should we respond and work toward resolve?

AS IT CONCERNS RICHARD ABANES AND KEN SILVA

“JUST THE FACTS” ABOUT RICHARD ABANES AND THE OLD APPRISING MINISTRIES WEB SITE

RICHARD ABANES TO SUE APPRISING MINISTRIES OVER DEFAMATION-LIBEL?

6 Responses to “Apprising Ministries Is Back After Overcoming The Satanic Attack!”

  1. Satanic? Hardly.

    This Open Letter to Steve Camp outlines my initial thoughts/intentions/motivation for writing to Ken Silva’s ISP. It also covers various issues relating to the “Ken Silva vs. Richard Abanes” controversy, including:

    1. Bible Study notes on key passages being discussed (1 Cor. 6 and Matt. 18),
    2. the actual contents of my email to Silva’s ISP,
    3. observations about the current state of the church,
    4. an indictment of today’s so-called Online Discernment Ministries, and
    5. documentation of Ken Silva’s violation of federal copyright/privacy laws, and other issues.

    The open letter should answer most questions and addressed the widely-read article by Steve Camp titled “Battles in the Blogsphere.”

    This is my final word on the issue. Those who have ears to hear, and eyes to see, will both hear and see the truth.

    Proverbs 18:13 reads: “He who answers before listening—that is his folly and his shame.”

    Proverbs 18:17 tells us: “The first to present his case seems right, till another comes forward and questions him.”

    Richard Abanes
    Pop Culture Mix

  2. Richard Abanes, a peddler doing all he can to sell a book.

    His own words prove all he’s about is himself.

    One More Reason I’ll Never Purchase a Book by Richard Abanes! He’s Had Apprising.org Shut Down, for Calling Out His Running Cover for Rick Warren. (*Updated*)

  3. A Few Words on Richard Abanes and Repentance

  4. This post was made by a message board administrator in charge of moderating the forums at crosswalk.com and christianity.com.

    +++++++++++++++++++++ BEGIN

    From an Admin stand point I usually encourage people to use the report feature when they see someone violating our Terms of Service. One thing I have found is that the anonymity of the Internet fosters hotheadedness. Therefore, one never knows how terribly the recipient of a warning will respond. This is not to say that Mr. Silva has a tendency to that sort of behavior. (However, his response certainly does seem to indicate that it is in the realm of possibility that it would be so.)

    We provide a service with a Terms of Service to which everyone agrees to abide by. Outlined in that service is how we will deal with violations of our Terms of Service. Rather than our members having to deal with this sort of unpleasantness we offer to deal with the situation privately.

    In my opinion, a person does the right thing when he/she reports what is perceived to be a violation of our rules so that the situation can be reviewed and the appropriate action taken.

    I doubt that the service provider in this case lost any sleep over any perceived threats of a law suit from Mr. Abanes. Such a suit standing up in court would be near impossible.

    I believe, rather, that they did much the same thing I do. Look at the content and determine if it violated their rules. They found that it indeed did break their rules and sent a notice to Mr. Silva requesting that the content be removed for violations of the Terms of Service. (This is actually more than what we do in that we remove the content ourselves and notify the offender of the action taken.)

    In this Admin’s view Mr. Abanes did the right thing. . . .

    Mr. Silva should have reviewed the Terms of Service and determined if they were rules by which he wished to be governed. . . . When asked to remove the content for violations of the Terms of Service Mr. Silva should have complied as per his agreement and then considered finding a site more suitable for his style.

    +++++++++++++++++++++ END

    This sums up the incident fairly well. I have nothing to add, except my 100% agreement with this administrator. As I have noted before, those who have ears to hear and eyes to see will both see and hear the truth.

    See his full post at my website, under Thoughts of a Web Forum Administrator: A Look At Ken Silva’s Actions

    R. Abanes
    Pop Culture Mix Website

  5. Richard Abanes, we could or at least I could care less what some other administrator said. Notice I said some “other” administrator, given I play the role myself in various capacities.

    (Others reading, remember when I said Richard would keep running his mouth?)

    Please see this comment at DefCon Richard Abanes!

    You said you were looking to reconcile with Ken Silva, so there you go.

  6. Mr. Abanes,

    Ummmm…..you forgot something. Like, oh, I don’t know, maybe the REST OF THAT POST!!!! I’m curious, why didn’t you decide to include that little snippet where this “blog admin” said,

    On the other hand…

    I feel it is a waste of time to hunt after individuals intent on using the Internet as a vehicle to smear public individuals/ministries. If a public individual is unable to endure the criticism, no matter how inaccurate, of such actions then it may be wise to consider another form of activity.

    […]

    I have no doubt that Mr. Abanes has learned from this entire situation. He may even be able to recognize, if not now perhaps later, that he has himself made some mistakes in dealing with this issue and will strive to apply it to future situations on the Internet.

    Nah, that ain’t gonna happen. Because Mr. Abanes is completely without fault in this matter. He has done nothing wrong, he has been perfectly right in everything he has done, and he has nothing to apologize for.

    Er, something

    Um, Richard, your own words, from one of your own websites, says,

    This article, titled “A PASTOR’S ASSESSMENT OF RICHARD ABANES” by Pastor Ken Silva (apprising.org) is filled with not just personal opinions, but slanderous innuendo, misleading statements about my character/faith, and negative implications about me that are meant to deliberately harm my professional/personal reputation as a Christian author.

    In response, I contacted Mr. Silva’s Internet Service Provider (ISP) to inform them of my thoughts regarding the content of that particular article, and after doing so, asked them to please have Mr. Silva remove the article before I contacted my attorneys.

    Nowhere in there does it say anything about you contacting Ken Silva DIRECTLY. Why not? Why go running and crying to his ISP, rather than address Mr. Silva directly? What were you so afraid of? And still, to this day, NO MENTION OF WHAT HE SAID THAT WAS LIBELOUS! For crying out loud, throw us a bone here! If you’re going to accuse someone of something, you have to say what they did wrong!! It’s like going in to court and saying someone stole something from you, but not telling the judge what it was they stole.

    And by the way, I have read “A Pastor’s Assessment…” several times, and I have yet to find one place where he libeled/slandered/defamed you. He may have said some things about you that you didn’t like, but that’s your tough grapes. You may not like the fact that he said what he did, but what he said was the TRUTH, and that is not libel, my friend.

    And, Mr. Abanes, how is it NOT slander/libel for you to say things about Dr. MacArthur? Things like “he doesn’t know what he’s talking about” or “maybe he doesn’t care enough about the truth” or calling him a “loose cannon” or questioning his research. You have no evidence to back that up. THAT, friend, is libel. What about your name-calling of Paul Proctor, such as calling him a “rabid fundamentalist critic of Rick Warren?” Or is it OK for you to use names like these to talk about those who would dare refuse to throw themselves down at the Purpose-Driven altar?

    And if what you did was right, why do you go running and crying to people you think will be sympathetic to you, in an effort to appease your conscience? Do you, perhaps, somewhere down deep, have a feeling that you didn’t do the right thing, and you need to get someone’s approval?

    It appears that the biggest mistake Pastor Silva made was in not signing up with an ISP that will allow him to make slanderous, libelous attacks against those who disagree with him. Perhaps Mr. Abanes can tell us who his ISP is so we can enjoy the freedom to smear our critics without fear of reproach.

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