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A Christian Defense Of Slavery by John MacArthur

Posted by Job on July 16, 2008

What can you say, John MacArthur is not politically correct! Me personally as a black man, the issue of slavery is a difficult one for me. But I was refusing to condemn the practice because the Bible does not, and I will NEVER claim that the righteousness of man with all of his humanist notions can somehow exceed the righteousness of God as He revealed Himself to us through scripture. This will be cringe – inducing at times – and MacArthur himself was uncomfortable saying some things – but please give the message a chance! (By the way: I am not a member of MacArthur’s church, nor do I agree with everything that he says. I just appreciate his willingness to stick his neck out and not bow to modern thinking on this issue). http://gty.org

7 Responses to “A Christian Defense Of Slavery by John MacArthur”

  1. I am not going to listen to this message I will just note that we know that the Atlantic Slave Trade was conducted by secret societies based in the west and those based in Africa. The ships which were flying over were had skulls and bones, now you accept that George Bush is a Christian you have no problems with Christian Identity and British Israelism. Reference Secret societies of America’s Elite by Stora.

    Of course the church of England accepted the slavery because they are subordinate to the Knights Templars who are now the British Establishment. Queen Elizabeth I favourite pirate was Sir William Drake.

    I am opposed to slavery because it was another way for the merchants of mystery babylon to sail their ships and sell their wears. Freemasonry was also big in the opium trade and the mason like Lord Palmerston the British Prime Minister. There is a good book called Dope by Lyndon Larouche which exposes the drug trade.

    Isa 61: Jesus came to set the captives free.

    We need to distinguish between Christian Identity and the Ten lost tribes of Israel heresy which is really Christian mystery and what Jesus practised. British Israelism is big, there is a city called Elohim which is the hub of christian identity. When
    William Cooper did a masterful series on British Israelism he earned their wrath.

  2. Dawkinswatch – The topic is the sermon and so it would be best for you to withhold all comments till you review the video in full. Rather than feeling you just have to jump in and say something. That being said, I won’t read or respond to your comment or this video till I’m finished reviewing the video myself.

    You have no clue how relative or irrelative anything you’ve said might be to the sermon, because you’ve refused to even listen to it.

  3. hubison said

    From what I could gather this had to do with our relationship to our savior as opposed to justification of the Atlantic slave trade.Exodus 21:16 condemns what happened here in America over 400 years ago.As christians we are slaves to Christ and people who owed a debt were indentured servants or slaves to whom the debt was owed.We owe all to Christ so we have a debt that we can never repay.Take the time to study both forms and you will clearly see that they are different.Dr. Macarthur from the bit I was able to watch making a very biblical argument for our relationship to our creator and savior.We slaves indebted to our master Jesus the Christ.

  4. Job said

    Hubison:

    I agree that MacArthur had a larger context, but in the course of making his case for the larger context, he had to deal with some tough issues that are difficult for the modern humanist mindset. Incidentally, MacArthur DID endorse what you said with regard to Exodus 21:16. This is a 4 part sermon, and he dealt with it – regrettably briefly – in part 3.

  5. Mark Lewis said

    In the early ’80’s I was a member of Grace Community Church where MacArthur pastors in Pasadena California, and his ministry is utterly phenomenal. As others have stated, the message has nothing to do with the slave trade or the institution of human slavery in terms of accepting that as valid.

    That said, I do have one problem with the message here, and it’s fundamentally that he is essentially casting dispersions on the motives of the translators, not just suggesting poor scholarship. He states this directly; “the translators MASKED the meaning”… I think we need to be extremely careful about discussions related to the original Greek language when we’re reaching an audience that is not seminary trained in Koine Greek. As a former Dallas Theological Seminarian, I well remember the hours spent in Greek courses where the professors themselves often disagreed with each other on the meaning of Greek texts, as do scholars who have spent lifetimes in study. Few people understand the incredibly difficult work it takes to actually do textual criticism with a dead language that hasn’t been spoken in many centuries, let alone the additional burden of placing such a study within the framework of cultural and contextual meaning. As a general rule, I think most contemporary Christians are often more confused by Greek word studies when they’re conducted from the pulpit rather than within a smaller, interactive environment like a classroom.

    I’ve seen freshmen in Christian colleges confidently disputing what a 50 year career scholar states based on some imagined insight that God’s given them built on a Greek word or two, and often I think they take this approach after hearing a minister disputing something based on the Greek. This is unwise and betrays spiritual arrogance, not that I’m accusing MacArthur of that, but it’s an unfortunate bi-product of the way we do Greek exegesis in the church pulpit.

    After listening to the first message, MacArthur’s handling of the topic focuses on a Greek word study of one word, and he makes some valid points, but in doing so he also seems to play down other texts that do not deal with the personal relationship we have with Christ as one rooted in slavery, though probably he handles those in other messages. Still…he appeared to discredit themes of freedom and liberty…and it should be recognized that most people won’t sit for 3 or 4 messages in this attention challenged world we live in.

    Jesus in fact is said to be “a friend that sticks closer than a brother”. We are also stated to be in a marriage relationship with him as the wife/bride of Christ and he made it clear while on earth that we were his kinsmen and disciples, not merely his slaves. The examples of other non-slavery images are far to numerous to mention here, but the point is, our relationship is multidimensional in scope. It includes utter submission similar to that of a slave, and it also includes many other relational dynamics. I think most mature believers understand this, and MacArthur is probably focused on excesses in some sectors of Christianity that include prosperity theology and its various cousins.

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  7. Michelle said

    Mark, the church is in Sun Valley, CA nowhere near Pasadena which tells me that you may have never gone there to begin with. I would like to just say…read the book jackets and dedications on his books. You are the company that you keep. I actually have a signed copy in my library from John, but knowing what I know, I think I’m just going to give it to a co-worker.

    Google “John MacArthur” and “bishop lawrence” and “Dallas Wilson”

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