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Paul Washer: Man’s 2 Biggest Problems

Posted by Job on July 6, 2008

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6 Responses to “Paul Washer: Man’s 2 Biggest Problems”

  1. reformatienl said

    25 indictments against Paul Washer:
    1) willfully limiting the subjectmatter of Scripture
    2) willfully presenting his own fabricated version of true christianity
    3) willfully bringing himself under a cloak of godliness
    4) willfully closing the book of Revelation and the Prophets
    5) willfully painting the graves of the prophets for his own selfish ends
    6) willfully presenting himself since 2002 with remarks that show Billy Graham
    to be his brother, although Graham is high in the world and an archdeceiver
    7) comparison with the whole of Scripture and the true old paths of the Reformation
    show him to be a cloud without water
    8) connection in the Netherlands to all false christianity has to offer, even with those
    who publicly say calvinism is a complete error
    9) presenting himself in 80.000 newspapers in the Netherlands smiling as though
    the sins of the churches and the land are no problem to him
    10) proclaiming a message of revival that has never come, thereby telling lies in Gods Name.
    11) accepting in the core of his message two contradictive systems of doctrine
    12) denying the witness of the Holy Spirit in the Reformation against THE antichrist in Rome
    13) denying the blood of hunderthousands christian brothers and sisters against THE antichrist in Rome
    14) going around the USA and the world to gain one proselyte that he makes a clone of himself
    15) being silent about the developements in the outside world, only preaching for his own parish
    16) laying burdens on small people, while leaving big names in bibleschools, synods, and gospelmusic
    untouched and unmentioned
    17) connecting himself to Kirk Cameron, know throughout the world for the message of a future antichrist
    with Left Behind
    18) himself not being able to go to Wallmart for fear of sinning, yet laying on big burdens on everyone else
    19) printing his own material as though it is manna from heaven, yet is only copying a little text everyone
    knows with some questions
    20) saying he serves the God of heaven, yet he himself is an idolater of the ring on his own finger
    21) his minister is Jeff Nobblit who teaches a future antichrist, that gain is godliness, and remains in the
    SBC although a complete apostate body with a statue for Billy Graham
    22) closing the Kingdom of God for the people by keeping silent about the true contents of the witness of the old paths
    23) denying the true witness of the Waldenses, the reformers, the english puritans, the scottish covenanters
    24) denying the true witness of Augustine against Pelagius, Luther against Rome, the Westminster and Dordt Synods
    25) being a facilitator and manipulator replacing the true religion of the King Jesus Christ with a false one of the new world order

  2. intersectionvictoria said

    my friend, you need to read 1 Corinthians 13 very carefully and prayerfully.

  3. reformatienl said

    I already have, that is why I respond like this.
    Love does not lie, nor makes itself to look something it is not, nor lifts itself up under false pretences, nor thinks itself richt while it is as poor as a churchrat, nor does it bring itself !

    Please, I am gladly adressed by this text, but before we make a personal judgement (which is the basic right of every christian), let us read the commentaries by beloved faithful proven brethren like Matthew Henry, John Gill, Matthew Poole, Albert Barnes, and John Calvin ! Let us compare the exposition by Paul Washer with them, and then make our judgement ! You will be comparing bad drawing in kindergarten with pure spiritual gold ! The little child in kindergarten does not like to be told his drawing is not that fantastic great Picasso he thinks it is, and will be silent towards the one who tells that to him. The one who produce pure spiritual gold dont need flattery, they have proven themselves already to true christians through the ages, and will again in 2009 !

    The little children in kindergarten who want to rule over the other children dont like being confronted that they are little bullies who like to rule and act on petty motives of self, outward appearance, and telling others what they have to do and say, while they themselves hate to be told themselves.

    I dont follow these clowns and bullies who still are on the level of bullying in kindergarten, I go on to follow Christ and His People in Scripture and in the old paths of the most beloved and faithful brethren and sisters I can find in history and now (for example the Waldenses, the Hugenots, the Lollords, Whycliff, Tyndale, Luther, Calvin, Knox, Owen, Manton, Watson, Boston, and Spurgeon) ! Mr. Paul Washer should compare himself to them instead of comparing himself with himself and being flattered by his fans to the third heaven !

    I dont wanna follow fools anymore who haven’t left kindergarten !

  4. Worthlesssinner said

    reformatienl,

    I used to be like you. Very young and have not grown to maturity yet. You are still very selfish and emotional. Have you truly read Calvin? You would hate him. He preached very much the same. What do you really know about reform preaching???? Do you know what “Reform” measns? You probably feel like you are being persecuted with this email but you need to submit to your elders. You have not prayed over 1 Cor 13. not only are you a accusing a brother in Christ but have put yourself in authority as to judge. The Word judges and not you. You need to grow and learn rebuke. Your email really is just immaturity in Christ. Wide is the road to destruction brother and narrow is the gate. You are too liberal and unwanting to change. I would repent brother but I know in your immaturity your pride will override with something about you have been a Christian for like 30 years or something. Yada yada yada. False converts claims the same. Repent bro!

  5. reformatienl said

    Hello worthlesssinner, my reply with @@, Dennis

    You wrote:
    I used to be like you.
    @@ I want to be clear to you, you completely misjudge me !

    Very young and have not grown to maturity yet.
    @@ I am a grown up man who for 10 years has been studying Scripture (KJV, Geneva), reformed commentaries (for example Henry, Gill, Poole, Barnes, Westminster), and reading with great love works by reformers (for example Luther, Calvin, Knox), english puritans (for example Sibbes, Burroughs, Perkins, Watson, Manton), scottish puritans (for example Ralph and Ebenezer Erskine, Boston, Rutherford, Renwick), and the sermons by Spurgeon (of whom I have all the works available).

    You are still very selfish and emotional.
    @@ The making of a personal judgement is your personal right, I only can say that I point to others than myself and my responses are written in complete composure of mind, knowing what I write about and why I write this protesting way.

    Have you truly read Calvin?
    @@ Yes, I love his commentaries on Scripture, I consider his Institutes to be one of the finest works on christian theology ever made in history, and his example in Geneva in christian life and preaching is very impressive. Knowing that Calvin was only a man who had nothing he had not received from God, and he also was saved by God in Christ ALONE, not by his works !

    You would hate him.
    @@ Well, my friend, I dont hate him, I consider Calvin to be a beloved friend and a highly esteemed teacher in the Body of Christ, truly being appointed by Christ himself to the office of teacher and undershepherd in the day and age in which Calvin lived !

    He preached very much the same.
    @@ If you mean that Washer preaches the same as Calvin, I completely disagree with you, because Calvin taught that the pope of Rome is THE antichrist, Washer does not, Calvin taught the TULIP-doctrines as THE Gospel, Washer considers the discussion arminianism calvinism not important, Calvin worshipped God as He has appointed in His Word, Washer in Muscle Shoals and his conferences worships God by the inventions of man, Calvin’s work is blessed through the ages starting with the Reformation, Washer’s work has as fruit the ten indictement as Washer includes himself in the ‘we’ of the 10 indictment message, Calvin was a brother taught by Christ to bring ALL that CHRIST had taught, Washer is a deceiver who brings NOT all that Christ has brought but mixes it with his own inventions according to what suits his advantage and image before man,……I shall stop here for I could go on much longer showing clear differences between Washer and Calvin.

    What do you really know about reform preaching????
    @@ I love the reformed preaching of the reformers, the english puritans, the scottish covenanters, and Spurgeon. I love the doctrines of total depravity, unconditional election, limited atonement, irresistable grace, perseverance of the saints, double predestination, I believe the pope of Rome to be THE antichrist, and I wish to worship God only as He has appointed in His Word, namely by singing the psalms WITHOUT instrumental music. For this witness I am excommunicated and hated by many of those who call themselves by the name of christians.

    Do you know what “Reform” measns?
    @@ It means that everyone takes the Bible and the Bible ALONE as the ONLY rule of faith and practice, which means that NO man in the pulpit is worshipped, that all in the Body of Christ is moulded by a positive command of Scripture, and that ALL Christ has taught is taught in line with the WHOLE of Scripture, in line with the witness of the old paths ! Serving mortal men, called the elders of Muscle Shoals, and worship God as Rome in Muscle Scoals, teaching a future antichrist, and calling the discussion arminianism calvinism not important, is a complete DEFORMATION from the attainments of the Reformation !

    You probably feel like you are being persecuted with this email but you need to submit to your elders.
    @@ No, I dont feel persecuted with your email. I feel saddened that one who has the name of knowing Christ, and knowing Calvin, completely misjudges, and shows he himself is what he lays before me ! Dear friend, I submit ONLY to Christ, and I will submit to those I recognize and can prove for myself to be faithful teachers ! And those teachers (like and in line with the reformers, the english puritans, the scottish covenanters, and Spurgeon) will only be helpers of my faith, being a greater servant than I am ! As Paul said he is nothing, he is the greatest amongst sinners, so these faithful teachers will also say they are nothing and are the greatest sinners amongst those sinners saved by Grace ALONE. I REFUSE TO SUBMIT TO PUFFED UP MEN WHO COMPARE THEMSELVES WITH THEMSELVES, CENSURE THE OLD PATHS, AND THEN RULE OVER THE IGNORANT LIKE THE ROMAN CLERGY ! (for example Noblit, Washer, and the Dutch connection of Washer)

    You have not prayed over 1 Cor 13.
    @@ I am glad I dont have to prove my prayerlife to you as God has said that He knows my prayers in my innerchambers ! So you, my friend, decide from this witness what the situation is regarding my person and prayerlife !

    not only are you a accusing a brother in Christ
    @@ Yes I have. But I have accused a PUBLIC teacher for his PUBLIC errors and sins. Paul Washer falls under the warnings given by Scripture by which ALL christians all over the world must test those who call themselves teachers. Paul Washer in his PUBLIC capacity cannot use Matthew 18v1-5 when used for an individual christian in private for PRIVATE errors and sins. Moreover when looking at the 10 indictments, Paul Washer has indicted not one brother, but a whole nation of millions of brothers, and has accused them with the 10 indictments. Also knowing that Paul Washer regularly makes statements in his preaching in which he judges men to be regenerate or not, making himself the judge of other men whether they are regenerate or not. So, my friend, I kindly submit to you that before you straign the gnat with me, you first take the elephants to Paul Washer and take them out !

    but have put yourself in authority as to judge.
    @@ No, Sir, it is a very bad sign when a teacher and his fans think they can exposite Scripture truthfully, make judgements about what true and false christianity is, and when themselves judged instantly turn and dont want to be judged !

    The Word judges and not you.
    @@ I am sorry, my friend, your defense shows that you do not know the Word of God, nor churchhistory, and that you measure with two measuring rods, one for Paul Washer (elephants OK), one for his opposers (gnat big problem).

    You need to grow and learn rebuke.
    @@ I most certainly do, but I want to learn from those who can take rebuke. I can learn nothing from those who tell others what they should and should not do, but when themselves rebuked suddenly react as though one has done the greatest sin a man can do towards another man !

    Your email really is just immaturity in Christ.
    @@ If that is so, please correct me ! But I can assure you that after seeing the defense of the Washerfans, immaturity can be found big time amongst them although they have listened to Washer for years, and flatter him to the third heaven !

    Wide is the road to destruction brother and narrow is the gate.
    @@ That is true because the Scripture say it is !

    You are too liberal and unwanting to change.
    @@ Once again, my friend, you are so completely wrong in your judgement of me, that one would wonder what this says about your knowledge and practical experience of true christianity !

    I would repent brother but I know in your immaturity your pride will override with something about you have been a Christian for like 30 years or something.
    @@ I will repent when shown my errors and sins. However I find it very strange that people like Dr. Blackaby with BGEA, Voddie Bauchan with BGEA, MacArthur with BGEA, Washer with his Dutch connection in false Dutch christianity, can always do as they please, and those who follow and flatter these men can also do as they please, but suddenly when someone adresses them on their PUBLIC faults, they have to repent………looks to me like you are using Scripture when it suits you, my friend !

    Yada yada yada. False converts claims the same. Repent bro!
    @@ False converts can go very far, but true converts never turn back to the false gospel of arminianism (Billy Graham, BGEA, SBC), nor will they return back to Rome (teaching a future antichrist, worshipping in a romish fashion, priestcraft) !

    @@ I hope my testimony is clear enough !

  6. waldens said

    As the facts of history clearly prove the Waldenses, Hugenots, Lollards, Whycliff, Huss, Tyndale, Luther, Calvin, Knox, the other reformers, the english puritans,
    the scottish covenanters, John Bunyan, Matthew Henry, Jonathan Edwards and Charles Spurgeon TO THE MAN protested against the pope of Rome as the man of sin
    in 2 Thess 2v3-12, aka THE antichrist. This based on Scripture and the facts of history regarding the rise and deed of the papacy (see Trente and the Inquisition).

    In 2008 Paul Washer came to the Netherlands and was for many hours translated by Oscar Lohuis.
    http://www.heartcrymissionary.com/sermons-nl
    https://twitter.com/oscarlohuis

    From 2008 to 2013 this translater was and in 2014 still is a weekly biblestudy teacher on the Dutch christian radio station called ‘Grootnieuwsradio.’
    https://www.grootnieuwsradio.nl/nieuwleven

    From 2007 to 2013 yearly gatherings were held by well known and influential christian leaders in the Netherlands under the name of ‘Wij kiezen voor eenheid.’
    Evangelical, reformed and roman catholic.
    http://www.wkve.nl/index.php?id=7
    This culminated in October 2012 in The Hague with a large tentmeeting where evangelical, reformed and roman catholic (including the Roman Catholic bishop
    who is responsible for ecumenism in the Netherlands) came together loudly proclaiming the Reformation as a sad mistake.

    Wij kiezen voor eenheid

    http://www.wkve.nl/index.php?id=39

    There was on sponsor mentioned on the site of http://www.wkve.nl, namely the Dutch christian radio station called ‘Grootnieuwsradio.’
    http://www.wkve.nl
    This did not prevent the translator of Paul Washer in the Netherlands to stop with being a biblestudy teacher on this Dutch christian radio station called ‘Grootnieuwsradio.’
    You can find him in the programs of 2013 and 2014 as bibleteacher on Saturdays from 22.30-23.00.
    https://www.grootnieuwsradio.nl/radio/weekoverzicht/zaterdag

    In 2013 Paul Washer came to the Netherlands and again was translated for hours by Oscar Lohuis.
    Nothing has indicated that the spirit from which Paul Washer was speaking came into conflict with that of Oscar Lohuis who publicly by his presence as bible teacher still endorses
    the only sponsor of http://www.wkve.nl where evangelicals, reformed and roman-catholics have called the Reformation a sad mistake.

    After the conference in 2013 Paul Washer started mentoring the Dutch director of Heartcry.nl (the organisers of his tours in 2008 and 2013).
    http://www.heartcrymissionary.com/jacques-brunt
    In his personal testimony you can read for months now:
    ‘ I am also involved in an interdenominational, rural prayer group of pastors and preachers with Oscar Lohuis and Arjan Baan.’
    The same Oscar Lohuis that still endorses the one sponsor of http://www.wkve.nl that in October 2012 called publicly the Reformation a sad mistake.

    The circles where the yearlong speakers and bibleschoolteachers of Heartcry.nl (the Dutch contact of Paul Washer) operate, have seen since 2010
    two developements appear in the Netherlands. Namely Refo500 http://www.pccmonroe.org/2013/07.08.htm
    and ThePassion thepassion.nl.
    Refo500 brings together all false christianity in the Netherlands (including the churches, speakers and teachers of Heartcry.nl) together with Roman-catholicism.
    ThePassion is a yearly media event where the last three years in front of more than a million people on television and internet Peter has been proclaimed as the rock of the churches in the Netherlands.
    This is clearly 100% Roman Catholic dogma. The Dutch friends of Paul Washer are silent.

    During 2008 to 2013 both the Dutch connection of Paul Washer and Paul Washer himself were too busy proclaiming their gospel.
    While the churches in the Netherlands were publicly apostatising, they were busy straigning the private gnat among ignorant nobodies who listened to them,
    while they swallowed the public elephant amongst themselves and those who were and are higher in rank because of titles and churchexperience in these apostate churches.

    Now in 2014 the friends of Heartcry.nl have now for months on their facebooksite a 100% roman catholic blog as friend which is actively proselytising for the Roman Catholic Church.
    https://www.facebook.com/heartcry.nederland.5?fref=ts
    https://www.facebook.com/hugo.bos.581

    In the beginning of 2014 Justin Peters (speaker John MacArthurs Strange Fire Conference) has come to the Netherlands to teach at Heartcry.nl about discerning the spirits.

    Other developements regarding Paul Washer:

    In 2008 when these 25 indictments against Pau Washer were written the pope of Rome visited the White House, being welcomed by your president and the elite of your country.

    Paul Washer was silent.

    In 2009 many so called protestants signed the Manhattan declaration together with Roman Catholic leaders as ‘we, christians…..’
    Among them Dr. Al Mohler, Dr J.I. Packer and Dr. Tim Keller.
    Paul Washer was silent, but is in 2014 speaker together with Dr Al Mohler at the Shepherds Conference..

    In 2010 the pope got the UK of the Reformation, the english puritans, the scottish covenanters, Bunyan, Henry and Spurgeon back.
    http://www.thepapalvisit.org.uk/
    Paul Washer was silent.

    in 2013 Paul Washer after so many years of ministry is able to do a conference at a roman catholic monastery where during weekdays the eucharist is celebrated two times
    and where roman catholic leaders come because of its spirituality.
    http://www.monasterosantacroce.it/orari_messe.html
    http://www.monasterosantacroce.it/gallery1.lasso
    http://www.pccmonroe.org/2013/04.30.htm

    At the end of 2013 Paul Washer present himself as speaker at the Billy Graham Center in Illinois.
    Paul Washer’s popularity came because of his shocking youth message in which he plugged Billy Graham.
    This although the apostacy of Billy Graham was already in 2002 very well known.
    http://www.amazon.com/Billy-Graham-His-Friends-Hidden/dp/1891117173/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394822891&sr=8-1&keywords=billy+graham+and+friends
    Paul Washer gave in 2009 publicly a message regarding his doubts about Billy Graham.
    http://gfmanchester.com/paul-washer-on-billy-graham-denying-christ-as-the-only-way
    Yet in 2013 at the period of the last great crusade of Graham Paul Washer presents himself to the public in the Billy Graham Center in Illinois.
    http://billygraham.org/story/billy-grahams-call-to-america/
    http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=49502&forum=16

    Current situation:

    Church
    Paul Washer now is member of http://www.christchurchradford.org/ under the spiritual guidance as elders of Marc Glass and Anthony Mathenia (both of Heartcrymissionary).
    http://5ptsalt.com/?s=marc+glass&x=0&y=0
    http://5ptsalt.com/?s=anthony+mathenia&x=0&y=0
    The elder Marc Glass says in correspondence about this church:
    a. ‘Antony and I are elders that have beens set apart and called as such by the congregation of an autonomous church. As leaders of this congregation, we function under the authority of the Scriptures and the authority and accountability of the church. The church itself, as an autonomous church, is not under a supra-ecclesiastical authority or hierarchy. We are simply a local church. .’
    b. ‘ Our congregation has approximately 60 members with an average Sunday attendance in the 130 range. Approximately 75-80% of the people in our congregation are from the Radford area, all added within the last 2 years.’

    When one looks at the number of churches in Radford, one finds about 30 other churches (see the red dots).
    https://www.google.nl/maps/search/churches+in+Radford+Virginia/@37.1203309,-80.5516821,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!2m4!3m3!1schurches!2sRadford,+VA,+USA!3s0x884df20631c96cab:0x6e33b8106b5c93df
    Paul Washer and his elders created in Radford one more autonomous church where the elders are called by 60 members of which 75-80% were added the last 2 years.

    Missions Heartcrymissionary
    I personally have gone through the missionaries of Heartcrymissionary at their website.
    As I wish them the best, I hope the best of them.
    What I found was weak men who mostly have very little means, who are happy with a very small group (max 25 people consisting of ignorant men, women and children) and who are in need of everything.

    The fact remains that although Paul Washer has been fighting dragons all over the world his own church of which he is a member is 60 members (Sunday attending 130),
    and the missionaries at Heartcrymissionary are 200 very weak men in 30 countries (of a total of 196 http://geography.about.com/cs/countries/a/numbercountries.htm).
    Of these missionaries most are in Peru and India.

    In 2014 Paul Washer includes in these missionairies the Dutch Jacques Brunt who prays with the translator of Paul Washer and bibleteacher Oscar Lohuis (see public information at the beginning of this message).

    All this has already in May 2013 been extensively communicated to the elders of Paul Washer at Christchurchradford with the request to inform Paul Washer.
    Al the content of this communication already confirmed by two brothers in Christ.

    My question to you all is ‘If Paul Washer is planted by God as a true minister why does he act as a frog of Revelation 16:13 ?’ traveling across the globe, talking and talking and talking, but while Rome is bringing
    all her harlotdaughters under her umbrella Paul Washer sees nothing, hears nothing, says nothing, because he is too busy with the personal godliness of Paul Washer, his friends and those who give him advantage.

    As the facts of history clearly prove the Waldenses, Hugenots, Lollards, Whycliff, Huss, Tyndale, Luther, Calvin, Knox, the other reformers, the english puritans,
    the scottish covenanters, John Bunyan, Matthew Henry, Jonathan Edwards and Charles Spurgeon TO THE MAN protested against the pope of Rome as the man of sin
    in 2 Thess 2v3-12, aka THE antichrist. This based on Scripture and the facts of history regarding the rise and deed of the papacy (see Trente and the Inquisition).

    Paul Washer and friends (like Vaughan, Beeke, MacArthur……) do not teach that.

    This is my personal witness to the truth now in 2013/ 2014 of the 25 indictments against Paul Washer in 2008.

    Paul Washer is a false teacher who gives to worldly people who do church under a cloak of godliness the impression that they are really radical christians.
    While in practise their affliction does not go further than loosing their job, getting sick or a marriage that fails. This also happens to non-christians.
    Nobody outside these churches are impressed by the preaching of Paul Washer. Paul Washer comes to a country and afterwards the apostacy of his friends
    continue. The Netherlands is full proof of total lack of salt of the ministriy of Paul Washer.

    This happened in history to true christians.

    Revelation 18:4, 1 Peter 3:13

    a waldens in the wilderness (Rev 11v1-2, 12v6+14)

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