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Why Is Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship Angry?

Posted by Job on May 29, 2008

Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship – the home of the liars and perjurers including John Arnott and Steve Long – are upset for being exposed for what they truly are sons of disobedience and sons of hell  and are taking at least one former member to court contrary to scriptures to protest about his books which are too hot for them to handle!

 They are also upset because this former member has asked  “So for the good of all Canadians and the rule of law, the Honorable Prime Minister of Canada, Stephen Harper, through the different Canadian Government agencies, should order an immediate investigation of this nonprofit charity Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship and ensure that it’s nonprofit corporation status be revoked especially as the executives of TACF have used the charity to pay off their mortgages and purchase luxury cars tax free. See http://www.fstdt.com/forums/thread.aspx?t=15245 and http://cnt10c.tripod.com/tb.htm

 They are also upset because this former member has asked the government authorities to investigate why it is okay for TACF Vice President Steve Long to publically solicit by mail for tax free funds to pay off TACF President John Arnott mortgage but  not publically solicit by mail to pay for this former member mortgage as well as all his legal costs as a result of TACF nonprofit charity suing this former member because he blew the whistle on their crimes, thievery, hypocrisy, lies, perjury, sins, etc.

 It’s also amazing that we have operating freely in Toronto Canada,  liars, perjurers and thieves in Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship including John Arnott and Steve Long with impunity or without rebuke from anybody about their financial crimes, their hate crimes, lies and perjury!

But it’s not amazing that these scoundrels, liars, and perjurers would not submit  as per “The order of Justice James H. Clarke of  January 15, 2008” which stated “ THIS COURT ORDERS THAT the Defendants shall serve on the Plaintiff by email and file their Statement of Defense within ten days,”  a Statement of Defense to this former member regarding his $100 million dollar Lawsuit Court File No: 6447/07 filed in Milton, Ontario, with the Superior Court of Ontario and now revised to $ 300 million.

 And if this Christian nonprofit charity TACF and its executives John Arnott and Steve Long can defy and ignore the order of  Justice James H. Clarke and do whatever they want so can every other Canadian.  Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship sets by its example that any Christian can be lawless, liars, thieves, and perjurers and not respect the rule of law!

 So read

 Liars and Perjurers in Revival  http://cnt10c.tripod.com/revival.pdf

Not Innocent”  http://crooksag.tripod.com/crooks.pdf

Betrayal by Supergods  http://supergods.tripod.com/betrayal.pdf

Apostasy http://supergods.tripod.com/apostasy.pdf

 Also check out 

Todd Bentley http://lionsmouth.tripod.com/todd.pdf

Third Wave Exposed http://cnt10.tripod.com/thirdwave.pdf

The False Prophets” Oral and Richard Roberts http://cnt10c.tripod.com/or.htm

“The Fleecer” Rodney Howard Browne  http://cnt10d.tripod.com/rodney.htm

“The Charlatan” Karl Strader  http://cnt10d.tripod.com/strader.htm

The Losers Randy and Paul White http://cnt10d.tripod.com/rw.htm

Down in Flames  http://cnt10d.tripod.com/rc.htm

The liar and thief Benny Hinn http://cnt10d.tripod.com/hinn.htm

“The felon” Jim Bakker http://cnt10d.tripod.com/bakker.htm

 “The Bishop” http://cnt10d.tripod.com/blong.htm

Evangelical Council of Financial Accountability  http://cnt10d.tripod.com/ecfa.htm

 “The Thieving CEO” Billy Graham http://cnt10.tripod.com/graham.htm

The Pentecostal God Fraud http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/religion/pentecostal/godfraud.shtml

Why is Pentecostalism a danger for Christianity?

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Critics-Protestantism-3427/Pentecostal-danger-Christianity.htm

TODD BENTLEY AND THE FLORIDA REVIVAL EXPOSED

http://www.cristianismobiblico.com/bentleyexposed.htm

29 Responses to “Why Is Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship Angry?”

  1. Hey this is a all a big Joke..

    The person being taken to court is firstly my own twin Brother Walter.. and who really knows him better than his brother, for he Walter certainly is no saint to start of with.. I have already discussed this in writing in detail with Walter himself, all of Canada’s news editors, major politicians in Ontario and Canada too, on the net..

    It appears that a pastor in Canada about 2 years ago had talked to Walter’s wife Sandy behind his back, without Walter’s rightful approval and knowledge, and ever since Walter was really upset over this, and he escalated his wars against the bad pastors, in Canada and in the US.

    The Airport Lawsuit was escalated because I next had had emailed a copy of Walters past internet writings to 300 Pentecostal churches in Canada, for their copy, their records, and they did not like the negative exposure by Walter.

    Walter was the person who had introduced me to Pentecostalism and even to Katherine Khulman, Benny Hynn too, and Walter went to many of Benny Hinn’s services too, and he had asked me to go too, and now he is denying it all… How Absurd.

    The bad pastors of the Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship – the home of the liars and perjurers John Arnott and Steve Long – have never denied my written charges of their own wrong doings now too.. and they cannot

    In reality neither side is in the right in this ungodly, unholy war..

  2. “They are also upset because this former member has asked” .. this is not true Walter was never a member of this group, he may have attended one or 2 of their services, .. For Walter he is a loner.. the last many years.. the last Church he Walter was a member of was Montreal LaSalle trinity Pentecostal church, and the Full Gospel business men’s fellowship where he had resigned from..

    Walter had asked “ for the good of all Canadians and the rule of law, the Honorable Prime Minister of Canada, Stephen Harper, through the different Canadian Government agencies, should order an immediate investigation of this nonprofit charity Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship and ensure that it’s nonprofit corporation status be revoked especially as the executives of TACF have used the charity to pay off their mortgages and purchase luxury cars tax free. ”

    and there is nothing wrong now in this request.. I also have rightfully have asked that all churches in the US and in Canada be annually investigated for fraud now too.. even the PAOC, the CMA, Evangelicals etc.. in this regard..

    http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/the-ttihe/

  3. walter kambulow said

    Dar Job Walter Kambulow was never a member of Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship and it’s a lie that was made by TACF and John Arnott in their $ 50 million lawsuit against Mr. Kambulow

    In their $50 million lawsuit, Court File No.C9-CV-342052 PDS, filed in the Superior Court of Ontario in Toronto against Walter Kambulow of Burlington, Ontario, the proven liars and perjurers of Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship, John Arnott and Steve Long stated the following

    1. That Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship and it’s Pastors John Arnott and Steve Long have suffered and will continue to suffer damages, their character and reputation, personally and in the way of their profession, office or calling, have wrongly been brought into public disrepute, their public and general reputation has been and will continue to be seriously damaged, and they have been subjected to embarrassment, ridicule and contempt.

    2. That the emails and words of Walter Kambulow about Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship and it’s Pastors John Arnott and Steve Long have had and will continue to have a detrimental effect on the ability of TACF to continue to serve its members and on the ability of Amott and Long to continue to perform their work as pastors

    3. That Walter Kambulow was a member of TACF

    4. That Walter Kambulow was divorced

    However these thieves and con artists when asked by Walter Kambulow in front of the Justices of the Superior Court of Ontario could not and would not substantiate their stated false allegations and neither would or could they substantiate any other false allegation in the said Lawsuit, Court File No.C9-CV-342052 PDS. http://www.a2zbookdepot.com/liars_and_perjurers_revival.pdf!

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  5. endtimespropheticwords said

    I have read Walter’s reports which are very long, and because there is a lot of detail, and I would suggest irrelevant stuff to scan through, they are hard to see what exactly he is charging them with – tax scams and pastoral luxuries, is that it (that’s bad enough but no different than Kenneth Copeland or Creflo Dollar or hundreds of others)? Ok, he talks about bad theology too, and about them suing him which they should not do as Christians, and a lot about digging dirt on him, but that is not a criminal offence. Or have I missed something? (I may well have)

    How exactly is Steve Long and John Arnott supposed to have lied and perjured themselves?

    Toronto’s response was way over the top though, regardless.

  6. Caron said

    Please see “A Call for Discernment” by going to http://www.justinpeters.org. Justin is an evangelist and in addition to expository preaching, also holds seminars on the “Word of Faith” movement. He has cerebral palsy and concurs with the apostle Paul, “My grace is sufficient for thee.”

    To God be the glory!

    Caron Strong
    Los Angeles, CA

  7. walter kambulow said

    per·ju·ry 1. Law. The deliberate, willful giving of false, misleading, or incomplete testimony under oath.

    1COR 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints?

    Dear Endtimesprophetic why are you so blind just because you think your friends can do no wrong?

    It’s right there before your eyes in their $50 million lawsuit, Court File No.C9-CV-342052 PDS, filed in the Superior Court of Ontario in Toronto against Walter Kambulow of Burlington, Ontario, the proven liars and perjurers of Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship, John Arnott and Steve Long stated the following….

    TACF committed perjury by making a $50 million lawsuit against Walter Kambulow and stating in it under oath:

    1. That Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship and it’s Pastors John Arnott and Steve Long have suffered and will continue to suffer damages, their character and reputation, personally and in the way of their profession, office or calling, have wrongly been brought into public disrepute, their public and general reputation has been and will continue to be seriously damaged, and they have been subjected to embarrassment, ridicule and contempt.

    2. That the emails and words of Walter Kambulow about Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship and it’s Pastors John Arnott and Steve Long have had and will continue to have a detrimental effect on the ability of TACF to continue to serve its members and on the ability of Amott and Long to continue to perform their work as pastors,

    THE LIE AND PERJURY HERE IS THAT Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship and it’s Pastors John Arnott and Steve Long have not suffered and continued to suffer damages, their character and reputation, personally and in the way of their profession, office or calling, have wrongly been brought into public disrepute, their public and general reputation has been and will continue to be seriously damaged, and they have been subjected to embarrassment, ridicule and contempt AND COULD NOT AND WOULD NOT GIVE THE COURT ANY PROOF THAT THEIR STATEMENT OF CLAIM AS TRUE.

    THE LIE AND PERJURY HERE IS THAT the emails and words of Walter Kambulow about Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship and it’s Pastors John Arnott and Steve Long have had no detrimental effect on the ability of TACF to continue to serve its members and on the ability of Amott and Long to continue to perform their work as pastors AND COULD NOT AND WOULD NOT GIVE THE COURT ANY PROOF THAT THEIR STATEMENT OF CLAIM AS TRUE.

    They deliberately and willful gave false, misleading, or incomplete testimony under oath to the court to try and silence and destroy Walter Kambulow because he was telling the world that TACF was John Arnott’s cash cow.

    SO HOW CAN SO CALLED MEN ON GOD MEN OF INTEGRITY DELIBERATELY LIE AND PERJURY THEMSELVES IN A LEGAL DOCUMENT UNDER OATH TO THE COURT ABOUT THINGS THAT NEVER HAPPENED?????

    They are not men of God, men of integrity but liars, thieves and perjurers who used and use their personal family owned and run Pentecostal charity to pay off their own mortgages and buy themselves new cars – see http://cnt10c.tripod.com/tb.htm

    And it’s a fact that sick people like John Arnott and Steve Long when they cannot deal with substance they character assassinate the messenger just like Steve Long did on April 25, 2005 about Walter Kambulow in his email to Rick Meyers

  8. Discerning Thinker said

    The blind shall continue to lead the blind. TACF’s inaction on the statement of defence to Mr Kambulow as ordered by Justice Clarke is because they have been accursed. Anything that lines up with justice and righteousness is against their nature. Delusions of grandeur have led them all into a fog cloud and they’ve never found their way out the other side and they are all very content where they are. However, this makes Mr Kambulow’s case much easier because truth and light will always triumph over falsehood and darkness.

    Manipulation of the courts is their game and the judges must wake up to it! Their cheques keep getting cashed and the ball keeps rolling and they continue to avoid answering the charges against them. Mr Kambulow should ask the judge when they will have to answer in person to the charges brought against them. Will they ever be held accountable or will the courts allow them to continue manipulating the system to avoid accountability? It is high time that the judges rule against all the pharisaical highhandedness! Justice must prevail now and not let this charade continue.

  9. endtimespropheticwords said

    >>>Dear Endtimesprophetic why are you so blind just because you think your friends can do no wrong?

    Get your facts, right, these are NOT my friends, I hate what has come out of Toronto. I am merely asking for the actual simple clear facts.

    So are you effectively saying that they are all these things – lars, perjurers etc – because they say they have been ‘harmed’ by these comments, and you say rubbish, they have not been harmed? That’s a bit of an OTT response, isn’t it, from both sides?

    I saw about the car and mortgage and I agree that is out of order – but is that ALL you really have on them? (Apart from spiritual deception which although bad is not illegal).

  10. WALTER KAMBULOW said

    The facts are the John Arnott and Steve Long have committed financial crimes as per Canadian law by paying off their mortgages from their personally owned nonprofit charity. And this is a serious crime!

    They have also committed perjury in their $ 50 million lawsuit against Mr. Kambulow which is a very serious crime in stating a lie and saying under oath just to try and shut up Walter

    They have committed a hate crime by saying in public on the web nasty things about Walter Kambulow and Canada has very strong hate laws about it!

    So in other words they are in trouble and practicing lawlessness while at the same time they are claiming to love God and their neighbor!

    I read recently that Steve Strang of Charisma said that his friend Stephen Strader was a great honest man of God which is a joke. All the Straders and Steve Long could not and do not accept the fact that Dan Strader the son of Pastor Karl Strader was a real thief. So how come these fools have no discernment and then they want to lecture us about God. Stephen once stated how stupid can you be and still breathe? He definitely was talking about himself

    The love of money is the root of all evil and Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship is a proven “cash cow” for John Arnott and Steve Long to finances their high life style while doing evil and wicked things such as character assassination, back stabbing, gossiping, and being cowardly.

    So why don’t John Arnott and Stephen Long stop the hypocrisy and giving Christianity a very bad name and resign and get out of the ministry since they refuse to acknowledge or repent of their real sins and evil and wicked deeds as documented by Walter Kambulow?

    They must be incarcerated just like Dan Strader was who also refused to admit he ever did anything wrong causing Judge Doyel to state: Since he won’t acknowledge stealing millions from the elderly, it’s not likely Daniel Strader will be rehabilitated”

    As a result Judge Doyle and sentenced the son of an Assembly of God preacher to 45 years in prison. (Not Innocent” http://crooksag.tripod.com/crooks.pdf)

  11. Most evangelical Pastors I have met encountered in the last 50 years, even those in the Alliance, the PAOC churches, the ex CALGARY CHRISTIAN CENTER CHURCH, all of the Pentecostal, Baptist churches now too were undeniably mostly manipulators, liars, slanderers, gossipers, even adulterers, immoral hirelings.. so the bad things they tend to do are just a normal course of action rather for them.. they cearly do still need to be asked to repent. (Rev 3:19 KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

    http://groups.msn.com/AFOLLOWEROFCHRIST

  12. Let’s face it in life there is a positive and a negative personal management style
    just as there are good and bad persons, leaches included.. such as bad lawyers, bad cops, bad pastors, bad politicians too..

    http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/more-about-control-freaks/

  13. Julia4J said

    Before slagging something, or someone/s, off – it is better to get to know them first, that way one’s view is likely to be a little more balanced. Jesus also advises us that we shall know them by their fruit – very wise! With this in mind my husband (Ian) and I went to assist at a Catch the Fire Conference in Cyprus last month (May). Ian was the chauffeur for the speakers, who included John Arnott, as I assisted also in numerous ways we both had the opportunity to view these people in private and public situations and to use our maturity in Christ (and years) to assess for ourselves what all the brouhaha was about. I can truly tell you that the only ‘fruit’ I saw in all the TACF team and speakers was: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness and self-control and against such there is no law. I challenge those who believe they are doing God’s will by slagging off followers of Jesus to do the same and then vent an opinion. Until that time your opinions are specious and offensive.

    • John said

      Before slagging something, or someone/s, off – it is better to get to know them first Julia4J

      Perjury
      Don’t lie in court. Duh. 131. (1) Subject to subsection (3), every one commits perjury who, with intent to mislead, makes before a person who is authorized by law to permit it to be made before him a false statement under oath or solemn affirmation, by affidavit, solemn declaration or deposition or orally, knowing that the statement is false is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.

      132. Every one who commits perjury is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years.

      Julie – It is obvious that you don’t know John Arnott or Steve Long when no one is watching them! You should look up the words “perjury”, “fabrication of evidence” and “obstruction of justice” and you will see how serious these criminal acts before the Court are!

      The submission of written documents or the making of verbal statements with the purpose of circumventing justice or destroying an individual before the Court is a criminal act.

  14. fred flintstone said

    As a former member I can say that TACF has taken a number of people to court over the years for speaking against them. It easy I guess when you have your own lawyers.

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  16. Jose said

    I went to a few meetings. They reach a high state of hysteria which is not christian in any sense of the word. Arnott even trikced 100 huntley street to have him on as a guest (but a friend pointed out that the Mainse family are charasmatics so maybe it wasnt such a trick?). Anyway at a youth meeting the speaker (a young guy not Arnott I dont remember his name but he was married and they were both evangelists or something?) saw there was a lot of young single people in the crowd so to inspire them to eventually get married (not a bad thing initself in this day of avoiding marriage!) he started talking about how great sex with his wife was and waking up beside her etc. I kept thinking what would St. Paul think about that ‘preaching’. I remembered when Paul rebuked the Corinthians for their lax standards the only thing –he managed to talk about sex without being well explicit if you know what I mean. It was creepy. I left quickly. You shall know them by their WORKS.

  17. SO TORONTO AIRPORT CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP HAS NO PROBLEMS TAKING CHRISTIANS TO COURT AND HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS?

    WHICH NONPROFIT CHARITY AND CORPORATION OR CHURCH IN CANADA OR NORTH AMERICA HAS A HABIT OF SUING PEOPLE?

    ISN’T THAT SOMETHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY?

    WHAT ARE THEY AFRAID OFF OR WHAT ARE THEY HIDING?

    SINCE WHEN DOES A CHARITY OR CHURCH HAVE LAWYERS ON RETAINER TO SUE PEOPLE?

    I RECOMMEND A PUBLIC INQUIRY, EXPANDED MEDIA REPORTS AND A FULL INVESTIGATION BY THE GOVERNMENT AND OTHER AGENCIES INTO THE TORONTO AIRPORT CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP AND ITS LEADERSHIP IN MANAGEMENT AND OTHER SENIOR ADMINISTRATION PERSONNEL TO CHECK THEM OUT THOROUGHLY

  18. Barry Boyd said

    In all matters God always has the final say,even where tacf is concerened.If people there in leadership have been doing the things they r accused of they will one day answer 2 God.God is not fooled by any of his children and how they live their lives,our lives as well as our sins r ever before him.God is not mocked,what a man sows that he will reap.Whether it be tacf,lakeland,brownsville or any other place we need 2 be sober and vigilant as well as on the alert 4 the devils prowling around.We need 2 test the spirits 2 c if they be of God or not.If we do not than we can expect more of the same.JESUS warned us very clearly about the last days and what would come forth,we have been in those last days 4 sometime now and the things JESUS spoke about r happening more rapidly and one of those things he spoke about was deception in the church and it has been running rampant like a plague.We were warned and have no one 2 blame but ourselves,awake people it is time 2 arise from slumber and take our stand beside the Lord and contend 4 the faith.

  19. Sonia brown said

    1. Don’t start using the person’s name, as if you are a close personal friend, unless you actually are a close personal friend.

    When someone has just met me, asks my name, and begins to talk to me starting their sentences with “Sarah,” it makes me want to back away slowly — certainly not keep listening.

    2. Don’t start quoting from the Bible.

    Most people will recognize what you’re doing even if they don’t recognize the particular book/verse, and it comes off as robotic and scripted, like a telemarketer’s call. I tune this sort of thing out, because unless someone is discussing the Bible with me on equal terms (we’ve already agreed to discuss the Bible and I already know what the conversation is about), I just assume that the person has run out of things to say and is falling back on their doctrine.

    Besides, if I’m not already a Christian, why do they expect me to take their book seriously? It’s a huge turn-off.

    3. Don’t bring up a topic, or try to find out what the person is interested in, just so you can bring it back around to how it’s all a metaphor for Jesus or Christianity.

    It makes it seem like your interest was only a ploy to keep the attention of the listener, only to be using their cooperation for your own corny game. I don’t want to spend thirty minutes discussing The Killers with someone, only to have them steer the conversation into how all music is a gift from God and this somehow proves that he exists. It leaves the impression that they didn’t care about what I had to say at all — it was just a giant set-up for their waiting punch line.

    4. Don’t use the phrase “Good News.”

    The chances are extremely high (at least in westernized countries) that the person has already heard this news and judged for themselves whether it’s good or bad or boring or irrelevant or whatever. If the person’s not a Christian, they’ve clearly judged it as not good enough to act upon.

    It’s also not new information, so it’s not “news,” and it’s your aim to convince people that it’s good — that’s not something that’s a priori. So telling someone that you want to share the “Good News” with them is essentially begging the question.

    5. Don’t talk about Jesus like he’s part of the conversation.

    The people you’re talking to don’t share your beliefs, so they’re not going to be thrilled to hear that Jesus is listening in on their thoughts and sending messages or providing inspiration to the person talking to them.

    This makes you come off as either crazy or… well, mostly crazy. I get that you actually believe that Jesus is alive and God is everywhere and all-knowing, but to non-Christians, he’s just an imaginary friend of yours, and so telling us to listen for his voice in our hearts is creepy.

    6. Don’t plant literature.

    We’re already stuck with Bibles in hotel rooms (thanks for that, Gideons and pushover hotels!). There’s no need to hide tracts inside books at the bookstore or leave those horrible fake $20 bill pamphlets with (or instead of) the tip at a restaurant. They don’t work. They’re impersonal, often accusatory, and extremely classless. If someone isn’t already a Christian, a pamphlet isn’t going to change that.

    7. Don’t hide behind a fake front.

    This goes for the “I agree with [local college personality]” shirts, fliers and posters that make no mention of the fact that an event or lecture will be a Christian event, etc.

    While in college, I was lured to an ice cream social, a Creationist lecture and a prayer group all under essentially false pretenses — and that was just during the first semester of my freshman year! At every event, someone was up front, telling the attendees all about sin and Jesus and praying the Sinner’s Prayer. I even attended what was supposed to be an academic lecture on abstinence (that some campus sororities even made a mandatory group activity) that was extremely offensive to women and ended with more prayer.

    I didn’t attend a Christian college.

    8. Don’t assume that we have “God-shaped holes in our hearts” and try to get us to admit it.

    I certainly think that religion helps meet various psychological needs, and there are plenty of warm, fuzzy feelings (and deeper emotional experiences as well) that come along with it. But just because you have a proverbial hole-in-your-heart that only Jesus can fill doesn’t mean that all of us do.

    Trying to convince us that our lives suck or are incomplete without God isn’t going to work. Stop insulting us and implying that we’re secretly miserable. We’re getting along just fine without any gods, so this line of strategy won’t work.

    9. Don’t compare your past experiences to our present.

    I cannot count the number of times I’ve heard Christians enthusiastically share their stories of horrible, sinful lives that left them feeling empty and lonely.

    These “sinful” lives usually consisted of such shockers as swearing, going to R-rated movies, looking at porn, drinking, partying, smoking, and occasionally doing drugs. Oh — and having premarital sex.

    The thing is, maybe these things made you feel guilty or empty; maybe you developed addictions or other problems relating to these activities, and maybe you’re much happier now that you don’t do them. That’s great. But it doesn’t mean that hearing your story is going to shock us or convince us to change our ways. There is such a thing as a healthy balance, and it can include some (or maybe all) of those “vices.”

    This tactic seems especially silly when different Christians groups and denominations can’t seem to decide what’s sinful and what’s not.

    10. Don’t talk down to us, as if we’re just not understanding something perfectly obvious.

    Many of us have read the Bible, prayed, attended church for years, and still ended up as atheists. There’s no magic bullet that converts people to Christianity. Whatever experience led you to believe probably happened on a pretty personal level. We haven’t witnessed anything miraculous or heard any voices, and we don’t see anything self-evident about God in nature or humanity. So if you insist on trying to save us, at least familiarize yourself with our perspective before jumping in, because assuming we’re simply uninformed or dumb is only going to hurt your chances.

    There’s one final piece of advice:

    Don’t evangelize proactively at all.

    If you belong to a group, make your events open to the public, but don’t use them to preach at non-Christians and repeat the Sinner’s Prayer.

    If you’re an individual, identify yourself as a Christian, but don’t start preaching to people next to you on airplanes or on Facebook walls [or blogs — Hemant]. Simply let any interested parties come to you. If they see something in your life they think is worth learning about, they’ll ask — and then you can share your faith with someone who genuinely wants to hear about it. Your message will likely resonate more strongly and with more respect and interest if you haven’t been trying to push it.

    What would you add to the list?

    • Job said

      The “advice” that you are giving runs contrary to the Bible. The Bible does not tell Christians to wait and allow people to come passively, but to actively go out and evangelize. So are we to obey you or the Bible? Who is it that we should be concerned with offending? You, or the God who wrote the Bible?

      Your concerns about whether going out to proactively reach everyone is wrong … well they are misplaced. The Bible makes it clear in multiple places that only a few of those that Christians preach to are going to convert. Christians should not be concerned with decreasing the “failure rate” or increasing the “success rate” in evangelism, but merely to evangelize because A) God commanded Christians to and B) Christians glorify God when they keep God’s commands. The Christian is not attempting to win the approval or be popular, but instead to obey John 14:15.

      That is why Christians cannot and will not accept your advice. The goal of the Christian is not to get you to like Christians better, because the simple truth is that God’s opinion of Christians is a lot more important – and accurate – than yours are. Thank you.

  20. Sonia brown said

    To above post..taken from 10 pieces opf advise to evangelists from H Mehta.

  21. Devon said

    And why would we take the advice of a atheist like Mr. Mehta??? We follow the Truth…and that Truth is embodied in the Risen Christ…..we don’t care if it offends…Paul wrote that the Cross is offensive to a lost and dying world…that is your problem…we will continue to preach and pray for the lost until our lives have ended!

  22. Hi hope are well.

    I do not like the list. Mathew 13, Luke 12 the seed to be planted is the Word of God.

    I believe in active evangelism. We go door knocking in the community once a week. (We did good last year but this will be the third week in a row when weather will cancel it. We can only go in summer as we work and winter does not give enough day light hours.) So far from the door knocking we have talked to a good number of people and distributed literature. I view evangelism as a life long event.

    Devon the Word of God is indeed a rock of offense. I’d like to say a lot more but I am busy at work and break is over.

    Love,

    John Kaniecki

  23. Sonia brown said

    I have been to some of your sunday services and seen the `Circus’ and the lies.and the way money is raised..( no tax receipts issued) for secret missions to save your globe trotting jet setting `Missionaries’ from the evil designs of evil regimes..I say Revenue canada should be alerted about you guys..

    Another .question why do you Pentacostals need to yell and scream..God can hear the whisper of a Butterfly..he does not need wild rolling on the floor to prove his existance..all your `doctored’testimonies would never stand the test of Professional, certified, medical doctors ..why dont you ask yourself the simple questions..isint it God ( who is beyond name and form and denomination) who gave Doctor’s their skills and knowledege..stop condeming other religions and people and promoting superstition and brainwashing and robbing simple people who have a childlike innocence..hunger for God and cannot see how the likes of Steve long, Benny Hinn and other devils..mislead and cheat the masses..

  24. Meg said

    I’m not here to dig up dirt, do it in selfish ambition, nor to judge but I wanted to share you guys the articles about what’s behind the so-called Toronto Blessings if you guys are insterested:

    http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/?page=torontodeception

    http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/?page=torontotest

    http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/?page=tbspinoff

    http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/?page=revivalspirits

    http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/?page=toddbentley

    http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/?page=prophetic

  25. Sonia said

    Thanks Meg..

    I think everyone should read the links you have sent. They are words of courage from an insider..

    I have seen how someone I dearly love, has become totally brain washed, fanatical and demonic with his ferquent visits to this place ..it does not bring peace to the soul..but makes my soul weary and sad..that so many are deceived..Bad karma !

    • Praying4U said

      @ Sonia

      I believe the reason your soul is “weary and sad” should be investigated and only you have the answer and no one can be blamed for that. If you do not believe it’s okay. But don’t ‘bash’ those who do.

      I wish you well and regardless of whether you believe or not, you have been kept alive for a reason…….

      Be well………

  26. Rob Illman said

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