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Has The Third Seal In Revelation Already Been Opened?

Posted by Job on May 19, 2008

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32 Responses to “Has The Third Seal In Revelation Already Been Opened?”

  1. Marianne said

    There have been famines before. We have to wait until we see a continued pattern into next year. Also, the first horse – white- seems to have gone out – conquest in the name of peace (Islam), and the second horse – red for war- is uncertain, since we have always had wars…there should be something more exceptional than what we see now. If the red horse has not gone out, then it is not time for the third one yet.


  2. Kyle said

    This is only the precursor. In my opinion the Fed has postponed the major economic meltdown by pumping so much fiat currency in the system which has translated into massive inflation. However, very soon we will see another round of problems regarding the credit crises. At that point expect another round of “incentive” checks and a continuation of low interest rates coupled with 200 dollar a barrel oil. I am guessing that this will happen in 09 – 2010.


  3. Job said


    Some economists say that we will be out of the credit crunch by next year. I was amazed when I heard that! As far as the oil goes, did you see where Bush is willing to give nuclear power to Saudi Arabia in exchange for more oil? Again, and we went to war against Iraq and are threatening war against Iran why?

  4. Marianne said

    the USA is not out of oil. We have it, but

    1. we are not give access to it
    2. we won’t drill for more.

    it is there for us to take….this is about money, not shortages.

  5. Consider the following:

    Revelation 6:8 (New American Standard Bible)

    8 I looked, and behold, an ashen horse; and he who sat on it had the name Death; and Hades was following with him Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by the wild beasts of the earth.

    What if we are further along than some might realize? Seal #4, Death, is only to impact 1/4 of the earth for fulfillment. We’ve seen plenty of conquering, war and famine. We’ve seen much war, famine and pestilence kill a good portion of those on earth. We could look at it from the “Roman world” view, but even in total planetary terms, we’ve seen plenty.

    Opening 3rd Seal – Black Horse Rider of the Apocalypse

    Matthew 24:42-46 (New American Standard Bible)

    42 “Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming.

    43 “But be sure of this, that if the head of the house had known at what time of the night the thief was coming, he would have been on the alert and would not have allowed his house to be broken into.

    44 “For this reason you also must be ready; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will.

    45 “Who then is the faithful and sensible slave whom his master put in charge of his household to give them their food at the proper time?

    46 “Blessed is that slave whom his master finds so doing when he comes.

    We don’t know exactly which day will be the last day, but we should remain faithful slaves and continue sharing the bread of life with those in need.

  6. Kyle said


    The idea that this crises is ending is just to get us past the elections. However, like I said above the Govt. and the Fed have many tricks up their sleeves. The Fed is covering loses by printing money and then saying, “See! Everything is fine”. This is done while our own Govt. puts out manipulated statistics which claim only 5% unemployment and lower than expected inflation-HAH! So as long as the masses are duped into this here at home we will continue “for a little while” as we have been all brainwashed into thinking everything is OK. However, soon very soon the financial tsunami will not be held back. In fact I think an Iranian attack by either the US or Israel will set the oil prices ablaze. As for the credit crises everyone is tapped out. To think that this is over is laughable. Maybe the Housing side of the credit crises is soon coming to an end but the personal debt bubble will be the next to burst. After that then we will see inflation that made 2008 look tame. I can see this coming within the next year or two.


  7. Actually the white hosre respresents the Roman Catholic Church. The Catholic church has slain many in the name of God. The Roman Catholic flag or banner is white.

    The Red horse China with millions prepared to go to battle can and will rise to take peace as mention in the army coming from the east. Their Flag is red is you may have noticed.

    The Black Horse is Capitalism. Notice Revelation 6:5 saids he that sat on him has a pair of balances in his hand. America has ran off money and the economy since its beginning.
    Black is a symbol of famine, the usual accompaniment of war. Lev 26:26; Ezekiel 4:12-13. The scale is a symbol of shortage of food with a corresponding rise in price. This is happening now.

    The green horse Islam.
    When the translation was made concerning the gray horse, the writers inserted the term pale because there were no green horses. Pale in the King James Bible, is the word chloros (khlo-ros’); also means greenish, or pale green. This word (chloros) is also used in 3 other places in the bible: Mark 6:39, Revelation 8:7 and Revelation 9:4. In all three of these other places it was interpreted correctly as green. This horse was also given power over the fourth part of the earth. Since we know these horses are spirits, it is very, very interesting that the color of Islam is green, their flags, and that there are 1.48 billion Muslims (Islam followers) in the world today. That’s almost exactly one fourth of the world population. This horse went south; and 96.5% of the world’s Muslims are in the southern hemisphere, in Africa and Southern Asia. I’ve seen arguments that the terrorists are only the “radicals” and poor Muslims being recruited, but if you look at the history of the men that hijacked the planes on 9/11, they came from middle class and wealthy families. The attacks that are happening everywhere, the suicide bombings, the masses of Muslims chanting, “Death to Israel, death to America”, are not only the poor and radical, it is the mindset of Islam as a whole. Look at what happened recently in Palestine. They knowingly elected a terrorist organization into their government!

  8. Somebody’s math is WAY OFF.

    Notes on the World POPClock and World Vital Events

    Muslim Population Statistics

    World POPClock Projection

  9. John Kaniecki said

    Minister Patrick Williams,

    Hi hope you are well.

    I do not necessarily dispute what you say just a word of caution. Revelation has been figured out many times before in history incorrectly. I firmly believe that certain events will stand up. I look at chapter 11 of the two witnesses. Your ideas make sense as it incorporates the largest groups, ‘false christians’, muslims, capitalists and communists. Also I like your ideas about the flags. But why are you inconsistent with the black of capitalism.



  10. I see my numbers are outdated. Thanks. I didn’t know there were that many muslims. I will be looking and studying the link futher, that what we’re here for, to learn from one another, thanks.
    As far as the statement about inconsisents with the capitalism and the flag; capitalist have always been said to fly the black flag of capitalism. Hope this help.

  11. High gas prices drive farmer to switch to mules

    Brother Robert Raymond added, “It’s the way of the future.”

  12. Ain’t it the truth. We will all be riding the mules before long.
    One Christian minister with close governemt ties remarked the government has already said we need to prepare to live like we did in the 1800’s, this due to EMP blasts that will cut out all electrical power across America. No ATM, no banks cards, cars or airplanes. Better learn to grow your own and can food for yourself. My mom forced me to during the 60’s, I guess that was a good thing. Its coming and the government knows it.

  13. We will all be riding the mules before long.

    The way of the future!!!

    I’m sure all the C02 the emit will upset the environMENTALists, but we’ll ride them anyway 😀 .

    Job and I will be over to your place to help you with your harvest 😉 .

  14. lavrai said

    Are you folks familiar with the Rockefellers, the Bilderberg Group, etc.? What you may read about these people may sound like wacked-out conspiracy theories…but I tell you, many of what they were accused of plotting for American decades ago are surely coming to pass (if the LORD wills it). The rich want to control the population of the world… they are working on America as we speak.

    How do they subject us? — Hit us where it hurts… in our pockets. Doesn’t our society (the world) run on currency? What is happening to America’s currency? It’s been steadily losing value for a few years now. And what is happening to Americans? We are becoming homeless (thanks ‘mortgage crisis’ and ‘credit crunch’…the banks knew exactly what they were doing because whom do you think runs the banks…and has been consistently ‘bailing’ them out with ‘loans’). People are trying to live off unemployment. People have to pay more for gas and groceries (partly our currency has been devalued, and they decided using grains for ethanol was a brilliant idea… let’s see who can eat ethanol)… do you see where I’m going?

    What will happen when they finally allow the market to bottom out? What will happen when your thousands of dollars in savings is worth mere hundreds in reality…and you can’t even access it because the banks are locked down? We will all be paupers — well, except for a certain percentage of society…like the ones who make the laws and run the Federal Reserve.

    We will all be paupers, but then our benevolent leaders will swoop in and rescue us with help — but we may need to get a special ‘document’ to receive that aid, you know a certain type of ID or a mark.

    If they can think of it, they will do it. They have lied to us before… they have no conscience and therefore have no problem with ‘casualties’ because they are doing this for own good. They are trudging along in manifest destiny with the Middle East because it’s for our own good (plus, there’s oil, heroin, opium, and henchmen who can be bought and manipulated).

    They throw us a stimulus check…OK. By the time the last person on the list gets his or her $600 check… that’s about how much it will cost to fill up the tank.

    Anyway, this can all be researched and read in black and white and even watched in video…from their own hand, mouths and minds even.

    But I think the LORD may have something in store for these men who behave as if HE doesn’t exist.

  15. I thank you the help. My wife and are really thinking about moving to the country and planting a garden. Maybe rise a chicken or two. Trade the eggs for some seed and cut our own wood.

  16. Job said

    Minister Patrick Williams:

    Trying to get up on the survival skills, eh? Lots of folks are talking about that.

  17. johnkaniecki said


    Hope you are well. I believe the disaster coming will be one of Biblical proportions. (A little play on words.) Anyway what is going to happen will be so dramatic that our best efforts won’t matter much. I’d concentrate more on spreading God’s Word than moving to the country. These disasters are going to be world wide. Not only will those in control be putting on the pinch but God will acts. See Mathew 24.

    The best thing would be to secure yourselves good friends. That way they can help one another.



  18. I agree and I think others do also. We were just spreading a little humor around. I believe we must continue to minister until we are called home.

  19. Hi Lavrai,

    Are you folks familiar with the Rockefellers, the Bilderberg Group, etc.?

    That’s material Job and my own blog ran through a while back. I’m sure Job can direct you to his many posts about it, but you certainly should check out a video I recommended a while back:
    America: Freedom to Fascism, A Movie Worth Viewing.

    And here are a few others of mine:
    Uncomfortable Truth About America’s Banking System, the Federal Reserve. What’s Behind the Economic Issues? Fiat Currency.

    CNN Starting to Report the Truth About the Economy Online. Your Dollar COULD become WORTHLESS.

    Credit Cards and Usury in America

  20. On a related note, I’ll mention that interestingly enough, when Winston Churchill took the UK to a gold standard things didn’t work out well. It’s not the kind of thing that could be done haphazardly and it has it’s own share of pain before anything would improve in financial terms.

  21. Amanda said

    You all should check out and, these are very informative sights about what is going on “behind the scenes” and there are some great documentaries also.


  22. I can’t say I’ve ever found any true credibility in the “9/11 was an inside job” theories.

  23. Marianne said

    The Democrats started the 9/11 conspiracy. Hillary was the first to announce that Bush was responsible for 9-11.

  24. Former (moonbat) Congress woman Cynthia McKinney was the first to be captured floating the idea that Bush had prior knowledge of the 9/11 attacks.

    Only after a total nut case like McKinney said it did others begin to dare say such.

    Rep. McKinney Accuses Bush of Profiting From 9/11 (report dated April 12, 2002)

    WASHINGTON — The Bush administration may have had advanced notice of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks but failed to stop them in order to profit from the destruction, a Democratic congresswoman alleges.

    And that is one of many reasons why she is a FORMER US Congressperson.

  25. terry thomas said

    what if the first four seals corresponds to what a man has to go thru after he accepts Jesus Christ as his personal saviour.

  26. Ray Schulz said

    Yes, the first 3 seals have already been opened. Explanation is too long for here. Please go to and look for 2 articles, Have Some Of The Seals Already Been Opened?, and Whatever Happened To The 7-Year Tribulation?

  27. Elisabeth said

    The red horse: Oil spill. If it continues, it will kill off a great deal of the worlds fish.

  28. Angel said

    If you link Levi 26 with the Zech 6 and the Astronomy clues in Revelation, you can actually predict the time periods in which these seals will be opened.

    The 1st seal was a white horse (one of the sevenfold Holy Spirit) which followed the Ten Lost tribes of Ancient Israel, through the Cacausus Mountain. This horse went to the North country; USA and Mannaseh tribe.

    The curse of Levi 26 is ‘I will appoint terror over you’. The rider of the horse came in peace Barack Obama won the Noble Peace prize with 3 out 5 votes against him! THEY had already decided it before he came to power.

    The astronomical sign is Sagittarius (In Greek, Zodiac means The Way)and this sign holds a bow and a laurel crown. In the Book The Witness of the Stars written by E W Bullinger, Sagittarius is The Archer, The two natures conqueror going forth ‘Conquering and to Conquer’.
    (In Greek the bow (Toxon)is actually a bow as on a present-he has promised rich pickings for whoever will let him do what he will-the Scarlet Whore mentioned later in Revelation. He is not The Anti-Christ but the Whore.

    Sagittarius when it ‘is clothed with the Sun’ occurs in the solar year between 18 December and 21 January. Obama’s inauguration day was 20 Jan 2009. This is the same day the Satanist reckon we entered Aquarius.
    So 1st Seal was 20 Jan 2009

    4th April 2009 the Chandra Xray satellite discovered the nebula called ‘The Right Hand of Apollo’ in the Lupus (wolf) constellation, this is Rev 1 v16.

    2nd Seal= Flaming Red; Zech 6 says they stayed in the Bronze mountains which is near Dariel’s pass/Caucasus mountains.

    Levi curse=’Wasting disease & fever, consume your eyes and curse sorrow of the heart.’ This is a mix of the Chemtrails that has been going on since 1985, which due to the Chemtrails’ chemicals action in the brain, causes apathy. The swine flu vaccine is the fever which was taken up by only a forth of USA (I heard this in a CNN news
    report). The Vaccine has a tiny RFID in it now transmitting your state of health to ? and over the next two years THEY will be adjusting the food/water or Media reports to produce the 4th Seal.

    This rider was given a huge sword-This is Orion’s sword, as Orion is a Giant, so he will have a huge sword!!
    His time in the Sun is 14 May to 21 July (2009) Well everyone knows that this was the worst time for the Swine Flu conspiracy. As to combat this, you only needed to have all your nutrients in abundance and have enough Vitamin D (in fact New Scientist said Vit D can stop the Swine Flu in its tracks.) There much less normal Flu deaths in 2009 and the Swine Flu wasn’t as bad as THEY thought it would be.

    Seen on the western edge of Orion at this time was the SUN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS with healing in its wings, or as some call it Nibiru/Wormwood/Planet X. It is purported to be a Brown dwarf that looks like a flaming failed sun. It casts no visible light, so can only be seen in infrared-this is the Flaming Red of the 2nd Seal.

    This fact is amazing; in the Witness of the Stars Orion means ‘Light breaking forth’, In Hebrew Gematria this is 528. 528Hz is now used by Genetic scientists to repair DNA!!!! this links in with the ‘healing in its wings’ Isn’t God great? He thinks of everything.

    So 2rd Seal is Black horse that according to Zech 6 goes to the second North Country=UK (I am ashamed to say, but remember it the Brotherhood/Illuminati that is the rider.)

    The rider has a pair of scales, symbolising Libra, Witness to the Stars says:’The price deficient, balanced by the Price which covers’.

    Levi curse=’Sow your seed in vain, for your enemies will eat it’.

    Libra’s time in the Sun is between 31 Oct-21 Nov, BUT in ancient times Virgo was part of Libra (Virgo holds the balance, like the statue of Liberty-interesting eh?) and her time in the Sun is 17 Sept -31 Oct. (23 Sept is a Satanists Sabbat, as it is Autumn Equinox)

    Also the Planets are in a ‘T formation’ at the moment adn soon they will be in the sign of a cross!!.
    Hebrews used to write T (or Tau meaning Truth-Jesus says I am the Way the Truth and the Life) for the Libra sign. A poundweight sign is related to the Libra sign as the ‘lira’ (12oz Troy weight)and the UK pound sign is an ‘L’ with a cross.
    In Amos 8, Dan is behind the inflated prices, could this be the Grain for Bioethanol scam?

    So I know the Time of the signs BUT I can’t figure out what is going to happen. All I do know, is that We are told NOT TO TRUST MAN, and if you haven’t, then you will have ‘past the tests’ of the Seals, which if you also keep the 10 commandments (and I am including the 4th one-The Sabbath is on Saturday and the top Catholics know this) and you look forward to the return of Jesus will result in you be chosen as The Bride of Christ and will be taken to Heaven.

    By the way the Church of Sardius had to stay the full 10 years!!!! Revelations isn’t just 7 years, it’s 10yrs and 29 September 2009 started the 10 year cycle of Holy Days/Years. 21 December 2012 is the time that will be the cutoff point-you either worship God or by default you worship Satan by this date. Psalm 112 code does say it will be a traumatic time due to hype. But Psalm 119 is the longest Psalm as this is the year Jesus is thought to return, according to ancient knowledge passed to us via the Essenes and it’s about late July.

    I’ve worked out the rest of Revelation in this way and you can do it too. You will need to know Science, Psychology, Conspiracy Theories, Crop circles are showing they are actually from God/Yehovah, Astronomy and History.

    And the 6th Seal is Shiloh; The Eclipse of both the Sun and the Moon. And according to the Mayans it will occur on the 31 March 2013. Reverse the date and it 13-3-31, this is the sign of the Illuminati-the Hand Bull sign. THEY know it is coming and you will not be able to run anything electrical, so make sure you have plenty of candles and a log fire or Gas fire as it is going to get really cold. And do not got out into it because it tells you not to in the Bible, There faces were like flames-the Infra-red of the Black hole, as this is what is growing even now-The two suns people have been seeing, isn’t Nibiru, it’s the Black hole and there is scientific proof of this!

    Hope I have been a good Watchman, I will post more if you want me to-most people, even Christians don’t want me to as they are too scared. I think the scary part is the Fifth and Sixth Trumpets-The Dragons return.

    Remember if you keep the Commandments, keep your faith with Jesus, don’t trust man and ‘Claim the Living Blood of Jesus over you and your family’, you will keep safe!!!!

    Yehovah bless you all.

    • Tiara said

      Please keep posting although scary it is necesary as I have been on a warpath if you will on Bible Prophecy. There is this urgency. Anything about the Rapture?

  29. I’m leaning toward the concept of the Antichrist being a Fallen Angel. Look at how we are told the name of the angel of the abyss, Apollyon…is it likely that this being is the same as the Beast from the Abyss? We know from Greek mythos that “tartarus” is beneath “Hades”. And Hades is in turn beneath Pontus “the sea.” Could Apollyon also be the beast from the sea? Or you can read about Azazel in the book of Enoch and get a pretty good comparison between the two figures. I would also note the connection between Apollyon/Azazel and Death as portrayed in the 4th Seal. Apollyon being unleashed followed by hordes of locusts(fallen angels) in the 5th Trumpet, can well be compared to Death arriving followed by Hell..

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