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What If Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer, Paula White, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, And T.D. Jakes Were RACIST?

Posted by Job on April 10, 2008

And Pat Robertson, Robert Schuller, Oral Roberts, the Crouch family, Juanita Bynum, Creflo Dollar, Eddie Long, and whoever else you wanted to name? Take Paula White in particular, who has (or until very recently HAD) a predominantly black church in Tampa, Florida and has the #1 rated show on Black Entertainment Television. Suppose this women were to start preaching that I.Q. tests have proven blacks to be genetically less intelligent than whites (after a manner of “The Bell Curve”) and that black culture is inferior (after Dinesh D’Souza’s “The End of Racism). Suppose that she were to say that she supports the Confederate flag, that her ancestors were slaveowners and that she was proud of that fact, and that the nation was better off from segregation because it protected whites – especially women like her – from black crime, the inevitable product of lowered black IQ and of inferior black culture. And that our low IQs and inferior cultures are due to our being the cursed descendants of Ham/Canaan, and that America had tried to remove the effects of the curse with slavery, generous welfare and social spending, affirmative action, etc. but it is just impossible for man to undo what God has declared. And so on. Would her black parishioners leave (not to mention a good percentage of the white ones)? Would she remain on TBN and the other Christian broadcasting networks, to speak nothing of BET?

Of course not. So then, why are these same people so forgiving when it comes to pastors that commit adultery (and this includes GETTING DIVORCED AND REMARRYING, READ Matthew 19:9), who steal, cheat, lie, preach false doctrines, and violate so many other things that the Bible plainly says (including that women cannot preach!) on a regular basis? It is simple: worldliness. The world has declared racism to be one of the greatest and most unforgivable evils of human history. So the person that commits racism is not to be tolerated in any context. But disobey the Bible? Who cares! That person is still called by God and has a powerful ministry and anointing! Consider their fruits, all the people that they have gotten saved and their works of charity! Instead of tearing them down, causing division, and making the church look bad, pray and ask that God restore them! Touch not mine anointed and do my prophet no harm! And pull the beam out of your own eye before you pluck the mote out of Brother (or Sister) Pulpit Pimp, thus saith the sheeple! (I hate both terms, but that is what they are.)

Are you aware that one of the books in the Bible is named after a slave owner? Philemon is the name. Yet if a pastor owned slaves in this day and time, virtually no one would sit in his church. Yet at any given time you can find any number of convicted felons, sex perverts, and blaspheming heretics running their synagogues of Satan any which way they choose, and instead of saying “hey, this wickedness is just what the Bible warns against in Revelation 2 and 3 and in other places”, folks are much faster to “prophesy” against the people that actually care about what the Bible says. Well, if the followers of these preachers don’t care if their pastors obey the Bible, how on earth can they criticize the unsaved for not doing so? On what basis will the unsaved be condemned? You say “Well, the Bible says that believing in Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven.” You mean, the same Bible that you IGNORE when it says that Christianity is not for getting rich, and that we are to prefer the poor over the rich instead of the other way around? The same Bible that you IGNORE when it reveals the reality of Trinity? The same Bible that you IGNORE when it says that not everyone will speak in tongues, that “sign gifts” are not to be used as evidence of salvation, and that “slain in the spirit” is confusion to be banned from the church? Or that we are not to follow or fellowship with those who reject sound doctrine? And so on? If you are not going to judge YOURSELF by what the Bible says regarding those things, how can you use that same Bible to hold someone’s not accepting Jesus Christ over their heads?

For instance, Carlton Pearson’s congregation up and left when the fellow started advocating universalism. But what about all of the other false doctrines that this fellow from the Oral Roberts school of Word of Faith/prosperity/confusion was espousing? I suppose that is where such Christians draw the line. The notion that you can get to heaven without believing in Jesus Christ offends them, because they still want to be better than everybody else. They still want to be special. They want to be able to claim to be a peculiar people, blessed and highly favored, anointed, a royal priesthood, and all of those things for themselves, but not give them away to anybody else. But this is the issue: THEY DO NOT WANT TO OBEY THE BIBLE IN ORDER TO BE AND RECEIVE THOSE THINGS. So, these same people who beg for tolerance and forgiveness on behalf of their pastors and themselves for claiming to believe in Jesus Christ while not obeying Him are denying that same tolerance and forgiveness to everyone else. Ones such as those, people, are the real hypocrites, and the Bible itself says that people like that will be judged most harshly of all.

So if hearing that Eddie Long, Creflo Dollar, John Hagee, and Jamal – Harrison Bryant are no better than Ku Klux Klansmen offends you, well I am sorry, but it is still true. The folks who followed the Ku Klux Klan will get the same reward as the people who follow these false preachers on judgment day, and unless you turn aside from these wicked men and women and start seeking after God’s righteousness, all of you spiritual Klansmen will spend an eternity in the lake of fire together! Do not let the standards of the world determine what is acceptable for your pastor, for your church, or for you. Instead, allow the Bible to determine it. Rest assured, there is no excuse for not doing your level best to submit yourself to the standard of the Bible, or for following pastors and fellowshipping with others that refuse to.

Those who hear the shepherd (Jesus Christ) and follow His voice (the Bible) will be saved. All else are not His sheep will perish. But for a lot of you, it would be so much better were some tape of your favorite Pulpit Pimp railing against blacks (or whites), Jews, Asians, etc. were to be found to prove that these people were never called by God and are not following Him, since hearing these people all but come out and deny Jesus Christ with their very lips is not sufficient. Oh but that it were that simple, but it appears that for a lot of you it is precisely that sort of thing that it will take, because for you the Bible itself is just not good enough. The Three Step Salvation Plan

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3 Responses to “What If Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer, Paula White, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, And T.D. Jakes Were RACIST?”

  1. Talking about idiots or fools who are false preachers, Canadian Revivalist Todd Bentley is holding this week special revival meetings see http://www.freshfire.ca/ at Pastor Stephen Strader’s Ignited church http://www.ignitedchurch.com which was bought with money that Pastor Karl Strader with the help of Joe Perez stole from Carpenter’s Home Church which he stole from First Assembly of God of Lakeland Florida see “Not Innocent”
    http://crooksag.tripod.com/crooks.pdf
    http://crooksag.tripod.com

    Todd Bentley is bragging about all the miracles, signs and wonders that are occurring during the meeting and is ignoring what Jesus said about signs and wonders:

    Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 7:22 “Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 7:23 “And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

    Todd Bentley should check what lying Pastor Karl Strader stated on his website http://www.karlstrader.com/main/mainstory.aspx about his lying thieving son Dan Strader and compare it with what the Ledger reported

    In 1993 we experienced a glorious move of God with Rodney-Howard Browne. It was a revival that reached around the world in influence. It looked like we were going to regain some of our losses. Then, in 1995, our church took another gigantic hurricane-like hit. My son, Daniel, went to prison for 45 years. More than 200 newspaper articles blitzed the area plus TV coverage. He had come on economic hard times, and his investment business was said to have violated securities laws involving about 65 people and three million dollars. Because his father was a prominent pastor in this comparatively small town of 70,000 people, the media and the devil had a hay-day.

    But the reality as reported by the Ledger and posted on http://cnt10d.tripod.com/strader.htm

    Daniel Strader To Stay In Prison
    Son of religious leader is serving a 45-year sentence for stealing $3 million from investors.
    Published Friday, June 16, 2006
    By Jason Geary
    The Ledger

    BARTOW — A bid for clemency by Daniel Strader, a former insurance agent and son of a prominent Lakeland religious leader who is in prison for stealing more than $3 million from investors, has been denied.

    Strader, 48, has been searching for mercy since his 1995 conviction on 238 criminal charges.

    He is serving a 45-year prison sentence with a scheduled release date in 2033.

    In December, Karl Strader, the founder of the Carpenter’s Home Church in Lakeland and father of Daniel Strader, and other supporters made their plea to aides to the state Clemency Board. They suggested Daniel Strader should be released from prison to begin repaying his victims.

    But the State Attorney’s Office in Bartow received a letter Tuesday from the Office of Executive Clemency in Tallahassee with news that Strader’s request to waive the clemency rules to allow his case to proceed had been denied.

    Gov. Jeb Bush and the Cabinet members, who serve as the Clemency Board, denied Strader’s request on Feb. 6.

    “It has been the position of this office all along that his case wasn’t appropriate for clemency,” said Chip Thullbery, administrative assistant state attorney. “We believe the board made the correct decision.”

    Calls to the Governor’s Office did not glean any further detail about why the board came up with its decision.

    “There is not an in-depth explanation for decisions written in the files for the clemency hearings,” said Russell Schweiss, a spokesman with the Governor’s Office.

    “The individual cases are decided by the board based upon the recommendations of the clemency office in addition to testimony and also records that are provided to the governor and Cabinet members.”

    Strader may not apply for another waiver for at least three years from the date the waiver was denied, according to the rules of executive clemency.

    Jason Geary can be reached at 863-533-9079.

    It’s to be noted while Rodney Howard Browne in 1993 was holding his revival meetings at Carpenter’s Home Church Pastor Jack Collins reported that Karl and Joe were skimming money from the offerings collected for Rodney – see http://cnt10d.tripod.com/rodney.htm and http://cnt10d.tripod.com/strader.htm

  2. Enough! Enough of all the insults among each other! Why pick on some people and hit them hard on the face? Why judge people so bluntly and condemn them to Hell without even showing evidence that they are heretics? Even if they are heretics, would condemnation be the solution? Brothers and sisters, there is no use arguing whether who is heretic and who is not. I believe that God doesn’t want us to fight.

    Just because that pastors are rich, doesn’t necessarily mean that they are corrupted and bound to heresy. Just because a church gets bigger and bigger, doesn’t necessarily mean that it preaches prosperity Gospel. I know of several churches which is mega in size, and pastors who are very rich and famous, also preaches the judgment day! For instance, Rev. Kong Hee from City Harvest Singapore, Rev. David Choe Yong Ghee from the largest church in the world (I couldn’t remember which one but it’s in South Korea).

    Indeed, there are the doctrines of repentance, sin, confession and condemnation, but don’t forget there are also doctrines of prosperity, blessings and love. Don’t get too overly hooked up to repentance, sin and all sorts of things as such, and condemn those who seldom preaches as heretics. You all yourselves said that not everyone who call Jesus “Lord, Lord” would go to heaven, but I have one question, how certain are you that they will go to Hell? And how certain are you that you won’t see them in Heaven in the end of the day? No, because all of you are not God.

    The only thing we must do, is not to condemn them, but to forgive and consistently praying for them. That they will come to realization of their sins and transgressions and iniquities, that Jesus may crack their head before they ended up too late in Hell for eternity.

    Still remember the story of Noah and the three sons when he was drunk naked? The one who talk about the nakedness of Noah out loud got cursed by the father, while others who do something to cover the nakedness of the father got blessed. Do you want to be the son who talk out loud about the nakedness of others and not doing anything about it?

    Please, people… Please have the consent of condemning people. I come from a church you called “charismatic”. I have no problem with Charismatic Pentecostal church, as they are God-loving church. We should forgive, not condemn.

    Here is a passage of scripture that I want to share with all the readers. It’s from 1 Corinthians:

    Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. For it has been declared to me concerning you, my brethren, by those of Chloe’s household, that there are contentions among you. Now I say this, that each of you says, “I am of Paul,” or “I am of Apollos,” or “I am of Cephas,” or “I am of Christ.” Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? (1 Corinthians 1.10-13)

    And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual people but as to carnal, as to babes in Christ. I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able; for you are still carnal. For where there are envy, strife, and divisions among you, are you not carnal and behaving like mere men? For when one says, “I am of Paul,” and another, “I am of Apollos,” are you not carnal? (1 Corinthians 3.1-4)

    Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints? Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life? If then you have judgments concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge? I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you, not even one, who will be able to judge between his brethren? But brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers!
    Now therefore, it is already an utter failure for you that you go to law against one another. Why do you not rather accept wrong? Why do you not rather let yourselves be cheated? No, you yourselves do wrong and cheat, and you do these things to your brethren! Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God. (1 Corinthians 6.1-11)

    Please read also the whole passage of 1 Corinthians 12 and meditate upon it.

    This comment is not meant to condemn anyone, but to bring a conscience to every brothers and sisters in Christ. Judge yourselves first before judge others. Let the ones who have no sin to cast the first rock to stone so-called convicted people (like Joel Osteen and Joyce Meyer).

    Pray for them and hope for their repentance.

  3. Dear beloved servant of God,

    May the blessings, love and peace from the King of kings Jesus Christ be unto you. I thank the heavenly Father Jehovah God whom through His dear leading of the Holy Spirit and guidance has led me to your most wonderful website that has really blessed and quenched my thirsty soul, thus I long to see you come that we may be able to share the blessings together.

    I write to ask you very humbly to accept that you come and minister unto us in the forthcoming women conference here in Kenya. The conference shall comprise of women from Tanzania and Kenya. Although we planned to hold it in April this year, but we could change and hold it at the appropriate time that would be very convenient according to your program.

    Kindly allow me to bring to your best knowledge that men are also invited to attend since there are some general sessions while in other some sessions people will be in groups, thus male preachers as well as the female preachers or teachers are invited to come. We dearly need a foreign God’s minister at this time.

    May I notify you that when we break off from the Apostolic 7thDay Church of God a terrible confusion aroused that caused the Body of Christ here to suffer a lot and since most of the churches could not received empowerment and fresh anointing, they resolved to become inactive and faded away.
    I beg you to understand that we’ve since then suffering from spiritual
    disability and ask you very kindly to respond. If you could accept to come, we
    may bath and get spiritual nutrients for our spiritual growth. As a woman giving birth, I do at times experience something in form of a labor pain whenever I see the spiritual drought.

    Meanwhile I remain waiting for your best considerations as soon as you possibly can since women besides other part of the church really experience the spiritual drought. Since this is the call of your vision, kindly respond and feed the fading dying souls of women in East Africa . I wish you a very prosperous and Happy New Year.
    Yours in His service,
    Pastor Alice Akeyo.
    International Pastoral Coordinator

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