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Sex Sells Especially In The Church: Tampa’s The Relevant Church Teaching People To Defile The Bedroom

Posted by Job on February 15, 2008

MyFox Tampa Bay | Pastor issues sex challenge

TAMPA A pastor has a new challenge for his parishioners. It involves sex – a subject that may be taboo in many congregations. The Relevant Church in Tampa’s Ybor City has issued a 30-day sex challenge. “It’s going to be tempting and awkward at the same time for sure,” said parishioner Brent Cayson.

Single men and women can’t have sex for 30 days, and married couples are urged to have it every day. (First of all, if single people in your church are having sex, they need to be disciplined for the sin of fornication and put out if they refuse to repent and change. See 1 Corinthians 5:1-6. Second, preachers are not supposed to dictate the sex practices of married men and women in his congregation. That is what cults such as the one run by R.G. “Brother” Stair do see link and see link.)

“If you look at studies, studies say in 30 days you can develop a habit,” said Pastor Paul Wirth.” (Another guy who puts more faith in “psychological studies” than the Bible. Instead of trying to bewitch people with psychiatry to obey rules according to the flesh – legalism – how about preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ so that they may hear, repent of their sins, and experience rebirth so that the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit can enable them to resist sin? The latter is Godly living that God smiles upon as an acceptable sacrifice made through faith like Abel, the former is self – persecution of works that God frowns upon like Cain, see Hebrews 11:4!) It definitely caught wives in the church by surprise. “Our married people are far more fearful than our single people,” said Wirth. “Sex is about more than intercourse and that’s what we’re trying to tell people,” said church member Jarret Haas.

Wirth has found biblical references that he says suggest Jesus disapproved of pre-marital sex and promoted sex in marriage. (When? Yesterday? Last week?) So, he believes people connect to God through life-long commitment. (Jesus Christ and the gospel of Him crucified and resurrected is the only way to God. So your message of a lifelong commitment to God is either committing to a God other than the One of the Bible or is deeply flawed with doctrinal impurity.) That’s why he tells his single followers to abstain, and his married followers to indulge. Wirth is a former Baptist. He founded his non-denominational ministry three years ago. (Obviously three years before finding out what the Bible says about how to run a church. See When? Yesterday? Last week? above.) And he markets his church by tackling unusual or controversial topics. (It will get you more fame, money, and power than by giving people the gospel of Jesus Christ slain and risen, I have to admit that! But it will also take those who preach and follow it straight to gehenna, the lake of fire.)

This is an entry for A Little Leaven’s Graveyard of Relevance if there ever was one. Or then again, maybe it is an entry for their Christian Erotica section! Look people, the whole notion that the church has to become “relevant” on sexuality or anything else is just an excuse to get church people to approve of vulgarity and sin. The original “Christians need to start facing reality and talk about sex” came when God – hating groups in the late 1980s decided that they could exploit AIDS by using it to promote gay rights and sexual libertinism. Even this, however, was building on the decades – long strategy of exploiting the rising teen pregnancy – and sexually transmitted disease – rates of promoting sexual libertinism in public schools using sex education classes. So these people began demanding that churches offer sex education classes and do other things such as hand out condoms to 12 year olds as well. Of course, promoting and supporting fornication in that manner meant having to discard what the Bible said about sexual sin, first with heterosexual fornication, then with homosexuality. Then came along the notion that continuing to teach what the Bible said about sexual sin was “irrelevant” to the problems of the black community. The church had to stop preaching obedience to Jesus Christ in all matters and start promoting “safe fornication” to prevent AIDS and illegitimacy. If you recall, those were the first “faith – based programs”, politically conservative Christians. Or have you forgotten the Bill Clinton era, who co – opted the black church to push his socially liberal agenda long before John Ashcroft put the charitable choice provision in the 1996 welfare reform bill that Bill Clinton signed, the same charitable choice provision that has been expanded by President Bush and by Democratic and Republican governors all over this nation to give tax money – and along with it coercive government regulations! – to Christian organizations, most of them Roman Catholic? It will soon grow into a leviathan system that will crush Christian organizations that refuse to do business with the relationship between Vatican and state because they will not be able to compete financially with the resources of both Rome and the taxpayers. This is already happening with a lot of Christian daycares in my own state of Georgia that are having extreme difficulty competing with the lower prices and the state seal of approval offered by the state – funded daycare system (implemented by “conservative Democrat” Zell Miller and now presided over by evangelical conservative Republican Sonny Perdue) that will pave the way for the universal preschool system to be implemented either by Hillary Clinton or Barack HUSSEIN Obama (it really does not matter which).

But before the right began to use this idea to promote evangelical churches being turned into government social welfare offices, Bill Clinton was using inner city black churches for midnight basketball, and yes to pass out condoms and drug needles in pilot programs administered by the likes of David Satcher and Jocelyn Elders. See where the demand for Purpose Driven apostate churches “relevant” to the world that has rejected Jesus Christ is going to lead, people? That is why it is better to have churches that are relevant to God by teaching its people to obey the Bible.

Back to the universal preschool thing, I can predict how it is going to go. Hillary (or B. Hussein Obama) are going to promote it as a complete government entity, an extension of Head Start as part of public schools. “Conservatives” are going to demand that it be a “public – private” affair. The result will be a universal voucher system for preschools, most of whom will be run by church groups, and most of those will be Roman Catholic. That will then give the political impetus to remove the Blaine amendments enacted to protect us from merging church and state. Yes, they were enacted after large numbers of Roman Catholics moved to America, BUT THAT IS BECAUSE BEFORE THE LARGE SCALE ROMAN CATHOLIC IMMIGRATION THEY WEREN’T NEEDED BECAUSE THE OVERWHELMINGLY PROTESTANT NATION AT THE TIME HAD NO INTEREST IN MERGING CHURCH AND STATE! WHY? BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO FOUNDED THIS NATION IN THE FIRST PLACE WERE FLEEING PERSECUTION AT THE HANDS OF THE STATE CHURCHES! You may have heard George W. Bush, who is not a Christian, speak of “Pell grants for K – 12” in his state of the union address (the previous “school voucher” and “opportunity scholarship” language having failed). The Roman Catholics on the neoconservative blogs and websites were loving that one, as were the not a few Jews (not all of whom are conservative) who want to use taxpayer money to financially support their own day schools. Again, if you want a “relevant” church, this is what it leads to … everything else but the gospel and mission of Jesus Christ.

Update from A Little Leaven: THEY HAVE A YOUTUBE VIDEO!

Relevant Church Website

1Cor. 2:1 And I, when I came to you, brothers, did not come proclaiming to you the testimony of God with lofty speech or wisdom. 2 For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.

Further Resources from A Little Leaven …

1. Christless Christianity & The American Captivity of the Church – Part 1

2. Christless Christianity & The American Captivity of the Church – Part 2

3. Christless Christianity, by Michael Horton

4. Preaching Christ from All the Scriptures, by Dennis Johnson

5. Why I’m Not a Purpose-Driven Pastor

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14 Responses to “Sex Sells Especially In The Church: Tampa’s The Relevant Church Teaching People To Defile The Bedroom”

  1. Philip Bassil said

    I attend Relevant Church, and what Paul is trying to accomplish here is only an effort to make every member in the church grow in their faith. He does not turn a blind eye to the fact that many singles in his church, as in many churches, may be having pre-marital sex. No, our church does not approve of pre-marital sex. But, unfortunately, all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God…in many different ways. Paul is not naive about aspects of relationships, and is trying to challenge his congregation. Paul is trying to approach this matter in an intelligent way by realizing that habits can be formed in 30 days. It’s impossible to assume or expect an entire church congregation, or people in general, will be swayed to not have sexual relations in any manner until marriage if they are already indulging in that lifestyle. Paul is trying to take baby steps with people, which I think is an effective way in beginning to change habits that are sinful, or hurtful to one’s self or relationship with God and others. I think everyone’s eyes can be opened in some way or another through this challenge. Hopefully people will be more receptive rather than critical. Also, I think it’s unfair to refer to Relevant church in terms of “cult,” as I’m assuming you have never attended a service at Relevant. If you want to be more educated about the whole challenge, which I hope you do, since you took so much time to write this comment, I suggest you attend one of Relevant’s three services on Sundays during the month of the sex challenge, and then make an accurate review of the whole challenge, not just the beginning buzz.

  2. Charles D. said

    Okay now Philip Bassil, Get Real! Gonna make a few observations, go to work, then get back with ya maybe later today.

    Okay, first of all, I like sex as much as the next guy, maybe more. Thing is – I view sex in it’s proper (for me) context and move on. I would not dream of using God to sell sex or visa versa. Both are huge draws, however, only God is fulfilling of the both. The latter is a gift He gave us FOR A REASON! And He did not mean for the one to use the other as the ultimate gift that keeps on giving, no pun intended.

    What struck me as odd, even before I could absorb the intended impact of the upcoming orgy thing was that: to a person (Paul the “pastor” included), and especially, Paul; is that to a person, absolutely no one, listed the Bible as their favorite book. AND! Almost to a person, your favorite music lend itself more or less to “coming together,” fore play, and feel good errota, and I don’t mean the aftermath of a Holy Ghost experience either!

    One need not visit your church to know; the same as one does not have to get shot to know that lead can be hot, especially after it has been discharged from a firearm. In fact, sounds to me like all one would leave one of your services with is his/her humanity if that much. What’s your benediction? Rock-On?

    The fact that no one calls the “pastor” pastor wasn’t lost on me either. Under the circumstances, calling what you guys have planted there a cult, is just being gracious.

    Guess this would be: Whatever floats your boat…pun intended.

    Chas

  3. Charles D. said

    Aw come on!!! You let him post his!!!! I’m miffed 🙂

  4. Job said

    Charles D.: Huh? I did not see any profanities in his post.

  5. Charles said

    I don’t have any profanities do I? Seriously, I’m asking. What I was talking about is it took almost 20 minutes to post and by that time I had left home. Chas

  6. Charles said

    HTL:
    Let me know what you think of the pic I just sent. Have to leave the ofc for a while. Chas

  7. bindedig said

    Your teachings are reaching international interest, here is a Danish version about it.

    http://politiken.dk/udland/article473421.ece

  8. Joshua said

    BTW this church in Tampa area is connected with the Emergent Church cult movement

    http://www.theooze.com/se/dir/Churches/

    list as a church link and a “church” worth checking out

    not to mention on this church’s youtube page

    Blue Like Jazz by Donald Miller

    Velvet Elvis by Rob Bell

    and:

    Relevant Magazine

    are listed as their favorite books.

    All these things are red flags this is a church to avoid.

  9. saw this at:

    http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/?p=360

    and it more than likely is right at how bad at our churches are becoming

    It Won’t Be Long Now…

    It is only a matter of time before we see couples in bed, “on stage”, in churches to celebrate sex.

    Two years ago I predicted that we would have the equivalent of pagan temple prostitutes in evangelical churches.

    Except in church, it will be married couples (for now) demonstrating it all in public.

    You’ve been warned.

    The clip from YouTube below a promo for Revolution Church’s sex campaign last summer.

    (One of hundreds of churches engaged in this sort of thing.) I give it 3-5 years before we have the real thing in church somewhere.

    http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/?p=360

  10. Natdat said

    It’s responses like these that leave me unsurprised about the slow death of many “old” Christian churches across the US. Frankly, look at our society as whole. God/Christ/Christianity has steadily become less and less relevant to our society and that’s a sad state of affairs. But with condemning comments based on ignorant perceptions and close minded attitudes it’s no wonder virtually anyone under the age of 35 has no interest in today’s church. I’m not defending or condemning the 30 day sex challenge or this church. How could I? I wasn’t there. Likewise who are you to judge what’s right and what’s wrong? Especially when you haven’t experienced it in person.

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