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Moira said
Who is the DEMON that calls himself “Jesus”? What is his purpose, what does he want?
I in no way imply our Lord Jesus Christ, but the demon who uses his name, jesus.
Charles D. said
Guess you had to be there???????
Job said
Moira:
Any evil spirit that lies in order to prevent from being cast out.
Servant4Christ said
The article named “Identify the Enemy” is blank – no article. I sure would like to know what it said………
By the way – who operates this website? There is no identification on this site.
Job said
Servant4Christ:
Click on the arrow button. It plays an audio.
Bruce said
Moria,
Did you have a specific scriptual reference in mind to share when you wrote this?
B
Bruce said
Job,
I’m throwing this one out to you, and others.
Why are there so many christian faiths?
Why do christians worship Sunday, rather than Friday evening to Sat sundown.
Why do many christian faiths celebrate Easter, rather than Passover?
Why do many christian faiths celebrate Christmas?
Just throwing it out because the true question I believe is, Why are so different on the word of the Bible? I couldn’t find the reason why they have become so a part of our worship?
Bruce
Bruce said
Job,
I’m throwing this one out to you, and others.
Why are there so many christian faiths?
Why do christians worship Sunday, rather than Friday evening to Sat sundown.
Why do many christian faiths celebrate Easter, rather than Passover?
Why do many christian faiths celebrate Christmas?
Just throwing it out because the true question I believe is, Why are so different on the word of the Bible? I couldn’t find the reason why they have become so a part of our worship?
Bruce
Job said
Bruce:
There are many Christian denominations but there is only one body, one spirit, one Lord, one faith, one baptism; One God and Father of all.
Christians worship on Sunday because it was the day that Jesus Christ resurrected from the dead, and that fact was clearly stated in the New Testament. What you are referring to is the Sabbath. The Sabbath was never set aside as a day of worship but rather as a day of rest. Further, Paul specifically stated in Romans that when a person observed the Sabbath or even whether they did so at all should not be held over a person.
As far as Passover, that is Judaism. Christians were told by Jesus Christ to have communion in remembrance of Him as often as we choose. Communion is modeled after the Last Supper, which happened during Passover. Jesus Christ was crucified during Passover, but resurrected after Passover was done on the first day of the Feast of Weeks. Now I prefer calling it Resurrection Day rather than Easter, but celebrating the resurrection of our Lord is incontrovertibly more Christian than celebrating Jews coming out of Egypt. There is also the fact that like the Sabbath, Paul specifically stated that the Jewish holidays are not binding on Christians. Since if you are found wanting in one part of the law you are guilty of all of it, it is fair to say that anyone who marks Passover while holding it over the heads of Christians that do not had better be celebrating the other holidays on the Jewish calendar. Messianic Jews do so, I acknowledge this. But many Messianic Jews also have some need to confer a level of legitimacy on their Talmud and Rambam traditions and insist on making it a part of their Christian practice, and that is no different from Gentile Christians celebrating what were originally pagan holidays because of Roman Catholic traditions.
Christmas is just worldliness. Most American Protestants opposed Christmas until it became less religious and more secularized, an excuse to be materialistic and get drunk at parties.
Incidentally, on judgment day will He judge perfect behavior or hearts that sincerely believe on Him? If Christ is looking for the former, we are all damned because we are all born in Adam. If He is looking for the latter then there will be a multitude without number. The question is where is the line between a flawed but still saved person (which describes all saved people) and an apostate. I say that as God will save whom He will save (for the Hebrew Name of Christ translates to “God saves” and not “I give man the ability to save Himself if man extends to Me his human grace and the glorious gift favor of fellowshipping with Me forever!”) and He keeps all that are His, so He determines that line. Suggesting anything else is open theism, no?
So if Christians are meant to reject Easter, Christmas, Sunday worship, etc. and such is a precondition for eternal life, then God will rescue those that He will save out of that error. You see, I have my trust in God to redeem man, not in man to redeem Himself.
KELLY said
I WANT TO STATE FIRST, THAT IF YOU READ THE WORD OF YAHSUA (JESUS), HE CLEARLY STATED THESE TWO THINGS, AMONG MANY OTHERS.
1) IF YOU LOVE HIM , YOU LOVE THE FATHER, AND LOVING YAHWEH, WOULD MEAN FOLLOWING HIS COMMANDMENTS OF OBSERVING THE FEASTS, NOT MIXING PAGAN CEREMONIES TO FALSE GODS WITH THE SPECIFIC DAYS SET ASIDE FOR WORSHIPPING HIM.
2) HE INDEED DIED FOR OUR SIN SO WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO. AND WE MUST NOT CAUSE DIVISION AMONG OURSELVES.
I AM A RECENT CONVERT TO THE RESTORATION OF THE HOUSE OF JUDAH AND THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL MENTIONED SO MUCH IN THE OLD TESTAMENT, AND THE NEW AS WELL. THAT BEING SAID, YES WE ARE ALL IMPERFECT AND HOPEFULLY BEING SINCERE AND EARNEST IN OUR SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH.
IT IS TRULY THE SPIRIT IN WHICH EAVCH OF US WALK, NOT OUTWARD APPEARANCE. YAHWEH KNOWS NAD LOVES EACH OF US.
TO ME THE SPIRITUAL PATH, THE ROAD TO TRUTH, IS ALWYAYS MARKED WITH UNCOMFORTABLE QUESTIONS.
THE great liar, satan loves it when we fight he is always looking for ways to turn people from the WORD. SO FOLLOW THE SMALL STILL VOICE. PRAISE GOD, AND SHALOM!!
Evangelist Bettye Cash said
I have a friend in Houston,Texas that I met last november,2008. He is an educated Gentleman who is now studying for his Doctorate in theology. When we were communicating via email; He asked me ” why I talk about Jesus all the time.” He was trying to humiliate me regarding a lie that he pretended to no nothing about. I immediately recognized the demon in him. Yes i told him that no one could stop me from speaking about God in HIs triune Spirit. Because He is the head of my life. I rebuked him. He is angery with me. Of course I don’t care. How can I get Him to understand or get him delivered since I live in California. And He refuse to answer the phone or communicate withme? Please speak about this. Thanks in advance.
yw said
I think that people no matter what knowledge they have can be oppressed or demonized. What does systemic theology have to with salvation in ones life. 0 is the answer. Head intellectualism is not faith. Many “thought processes” from Greek are demonized connect points anyway. God revealed whom He was, He did not ask us to make up our own theology or sacred calf relationship with Him. He spelled it out who He was and how we should worship Him.
Education is good, but if it makes a person arrogant and doubt the basic tenants Christian faith and spirit realm worldview, then we know something is wrong.
A degree or title does not make us clean, Jesus or Yeshua does. The words we use, such as christ was also used by pagans. So it’s important to know wat Jesus people is talking about. A strongs concordance and Hebrew lexicon word study is vital in ministry study of the truth.
I don’t outsource my understanding of scripture people. The so called church system is full of unclean doctrines, guess where they came from..demons(doctrines of demons) Obviously they love to transgress His commandments as well as over legalize them etc.
Derek Prince was good minister. Thanks for the post.
Pam said
Job
Incidentally, on judgment day will He judge perfect behavior or hearts that sincerely believe on Him? If Christ is looking for the former, we are all damned because we are all born in Adam. If He is looking for the latter then there will be a multitude without number. The question is where is the line between a flawed but still saved person (which describes all saved people) and an apostate.
Read Matthew 25:31-46. Jesus does not say we will be saved only if we have “perfect” behavior, but He is clear that our behavior and our charity DOES matter. If we are to be saved, we must take seriously what our Lord and Savior reveals to us. Not “those who believe in Me will be saved”. Yes faith is necessary as Scripture mentions elsewhere, but we will also be judged by our actions.
In Christ,
Pam
Sunil Jadhav said
I read you thought and I impressed form your teaching I am also a Servant of our Lord Jesus Christ I want to more learn form you about Bible so please reaply me
Vicki said
Hi Pam,
Those who are “IN Christ” will absolutely be saved, but we are not to put any confidence in the flesh whatsoever. Our behavior or good works has no bearing on this judgment you speak of, except that He will reward individually accordingly to deeds done on earth in His name. Whatever works are of the flesh will be burned up anyway and not counted. I have to remember that my righteousness is as filthy rags; it’s only *HIS* righteousness that matters! As a child of God, He has imputed His righteousness TO me at salvation, so I am secure in His love for me. Everyone who abides in Christ, walks in His truth and lives by faith…will grow in grace – and that certainly affects our behavior, doesn’t it?
God bless you!
Vicki said
Also, THANK YOU for this Derek Prince series….I’m listening
and being helped tremendously.
Moriah Conquering Wind said
The demon who calls himself Jesus … hooo boy that bes one massive can of worms. Yeah, they will do that, and the ones that do have a specific purpose and function in mind — to bring you under the yoke of bondage to subtle legalism masquerading as “holiness” and “obedience”, perhaps, or to weep over your soul telling you how much He (supposedly GOD) loves you but that it’s just too late, He’s sorry, you simply cannot be saved, you bes too far gone — in short and in sum, the demons that use the name of the Lord as their own intend nothing short of usurpation over your entire experience and perception of what constitutes truth, God, salvation, holiness, Christ, etc. Be grounded in 1 Corinthians 13 as a means of detecting the false — in the false light will always be great power and supposed “purity” but NO SWEET PEACE, NO GENTLE COMPASSION, NO TENDER HEARTEDNESS. Stay away from so-called “christians” who push push push for holiness, obedience, etc. but whose fruits bes rotted with a complete absence of all compassion, gentleness, tenderness, sweetness, kindness. BEWARE of the rugged individualist “pull yourself up by your own bootstraps” “snap out of it” starched shirt types; God does NOT author those attitudes REGARDLESS of what they claim. Avoid all such filth and you will avoid having these demons latch onto you and first override then shipwreck your faith experience.
Take it from someone TO WHOM IT HAPPENED.
Lionel said
Are you able to make this available as a podcast or audio file that is downloadable?
Bruce said
Dear friends in Christ and those seeking truth.
Is not God’s holy word sufficient for you……..
Or are we so concerned and removed from helping the friend or stranger that we have become debased in truth and wisdom, and in God and Christ’s direction? Help each one another .Always.
Christ, Lord & Saviour comes “Quickly”. Like the rising sun from the east or the moon and stars that were hung in the sky.
Be thy prepared and walk in truth, and make a path for the Lord!
Love one another always as if it were your brother or friend. And in all things Love the Almighty God always.
Your friend in Christ.
p.s.
Leave this portal of satan, the author of lies. This place is sadly infected with those that have not contenece or truth or wisdom.
Seek the truth which is God’s word. It is sweet and has great learning in all things.
Bella said
I would like to know if in the bible Jesus mentions something about mediums or fortune telling.
“Specifically Jesus”.
David said
If you truly want to honor the memory of Jesus, stop the idolatrous worship of him! Turn to The One True Creator, the G-d of Abraham the G-d of Isaac and the G-d of Jacob. If you want to follow the same G-d , you don’t have to be Jewish because all men are children of Noah.
http://www.noahide.com http://www.noahide.org http://www.noahidenations.com
The Prodigal Son said
David… ~~~ ~~~ Excellent ! I’ve been trying to tell people about your Noahide NONSENSE… but no one seems to really get it. Where in Scripture may we find the Seven Noahide Laws ? Hmmm ? ~~~ ~~~ So Christianity is idolatry is it ? Ha ! This coming from someone who follows the commandments of men, and carries the star of your god Raiphan, which you made for yourselves (Amos 5:26)… HERE trying to teach for doctrines the commandments of men, making the commandments of God of no effect ? (Matthew 15:6, 9) ~~~ ~~~ Tell us, is it true that according to your ‘Torah’ (the Talmud) idolatry is punishable by death ? ~~~ ~~~ The God of Abraham is unknown to you… you will NEVER see the Father unless you have the Son ! You know of Jesus, but you deny Him ? Do you deny the Trinity ? Maybe you should read your own Zohar, because it says God is Three and One at the same time!… +
angelpurplewings said
Prodigal is a muslim faking it as a christian. he says dumb things. He has never read the bible. He has not read the Talmud either.
The bible is forbidden to Muslims. they just copy and paste propaganda from their wacked websites.
My avatar is better now. I got my wings back!
John Kaniecki said
David,
Hi hope you are well.
Your first Noahide law is not to blasphemy.
Would you consider worshipping Jesus, the Son of God as blasphemy?
Love,
John
John Kaniecki said
Angel,
Hi hope you are well.
Now you’ve gone to far. A friend of mine gave me this challenge. Google the word ‘Talmud’ and something disgusting like ‘child molestation’.
The Talmud is indeed a book of evil. It talks very badly about my Lord Jesus. (Is Jesus your Lord?)
Muslims have a saying calling Muslims, Christians and Jews people of the book. They are not forbidden to read the Bible but they don’t consider it a reliable source. They feel it was corrupted over time by translations.
As regarding Prodigal there is a lot of truth in what he says. Jewish influence is disproportionate to their numbers. Through banks, the media and business they have a lot of power. Making them responsible for every woe is a level I won’t go to yet.
Prodigal in the same way they deny your facts your critics will minimize the great tragedy of America which is the genocide of the native inhabitants.
Love,
John
The Prodigal Son said
Thanks John… that is exactly what I am encouraging people to do ! Don’t take my word for it… Do some research, prove me wrong, anyone ! I defy you ! ~~~ ~~~ Or, better yet… do as ‘Angel’ suggested – go to your friendly neighbourhood synagogue and ask to examine the Talmud or the Zohar, and see how far you get ! ~~~ ~~~ Discrimination against Natives AND all non-Jews at the root is extreme racism, but for Jews it is mostly religious discrimination turned into racism against Gentiles, of which Native peoples are also…
angelpurplewings said
John
Nope. Prodigal is lying, and you are deceived. Do not be so gullible.
The Muslims have their own version of the “talmud” on the internet so they can defame the Jews. This is part of a huge propaganda campaign, and you are falling for it.
I did sit down and read enough of the Talmud, and it was a boring set of rules. See previous posts.
There was nothing racist in it.
angelpurplewings said
John
Do you believe this propaganda, because you, yourself, are anti-semitic?
angelpurplewings said
Read for yourself, and do not listen to lies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/talmud_&_mishna.html
chapter by chapter:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Talmud/talmudtoc.html
The Prodigal Son said
The Muslims have their own version of the Talmud on the internet ? HA ! ~~~ ~~~ There is ample documentation regarding the Soncino Talmud, and where it originated to know that Muslims had nothing to do with it ! Your hatred of Muslims is also very telling… ~~~ ~~~ Tell us ‘Purplewings’, did Muslims author the copies of the Talmud that Martin Luther excoriated ? What about the copies that the Popes had BURNED, again & again ? ~~~ ~~~ What about the 47 different Nations (before Germany) that EXPELLED all of the Jews over the centuries (because of the Talmud) ? Were Muslims behind all of those, too ? ~~~ ~~~ We (Gentiles) are smarter than you think… and your lies fall on deaf ears !
angelpurplewings said
prodigal
you are a muslim….with a hate agenda
what is wrong? you cannot persuade everyone with your lies?
there are only 2 true versions of the talmud
jerusalem
babylonian
both essentially say the same thing.
angelpurplewings said
history of antisemitism in the church does not make the lies true
John Kaniecki said
Angelwing,
Hi hope you are well.
You are quick to accuse me, it is satan who is known as the accuser.
I am anti anything that is not of God and Love. I deplore violence and will not support it under any circumstances. Whether it be Isrealis dropping bombs or Palestinians lobbing missles into Israel.
Like Prodigal Son says check it out for yourself. If you did you would see the Talmud is a horrible collection and evil.
Adding to God’s word is a serious thing. If Jews would follow the Old Testament without the Talmud things would be much better. Of course I follow Jesus and believe in the New Testament.
So I ask you again angelwings.I declare Jesus is Lord. Can you make that declartion as well.
Love,
John
David L. Williams said
So often, well meaning people come to a site and unknowingly, set out to change the thread from the original. They find a way to make the subject an unimportant rabbit trail. Such as, evolution or maybe a conspiracy theory they hope to reveal to the “unlearned.”
This can come thru even saved, but mislead Christians. Some who have been sidetracked to make what they “know” more important than the Gospel.
The original subject here of demonized Christians is very important to the Bride, who is to prepare herself for Jesus’ coming. It matters very little if some Jews have tainted their religion, in the overall picture. In any case, we can read in the Bible the future of Israel, and how God will not leave the Jews in their present state. DavWms
The Prodigal Son said
David… ~~~ ~~~ I, as a true Christian – seek to reprove lies and liars., and evil works… not just ignore those things and hope for the best. We, here on earth have been given FREE WILL… Our Holy Bible (mostly the New Testament) has instructed us to use our free will to do HIS WILL, which, I reiterate – is to have NO fellowship w/ the works of darkness, but to EXPOSE & REPROVE THEM ! ~~~ ~~~ This thread is on the topic of Christians and Jews… so I don’t feel that we’re too far off track… besides, as this is Job’s blog, so that is his call… not yours. ~~~ ~~~ The thread has gone in this direction because I made a REPLY to the Talmudic Jew – David’s post… something only John and I have done… even though this is a Christian blog and David came here to degrade and blaspheme our Lord, YOU had NOTHING to say to him ! ~~~ ~~~ … And F.Y.I. – present day ‘Israel’ has nothing to do w/ the Biblical Children of Israel – who were actually descedants of Jacob.
David L. Williams said
Prod., the original thread was about enemy demon identification. No, I have no power to change the direction of the thread. But my comment was true, that some who have a conspiracy theory seem to be caught up with it so much, they ignore the important things of God. I also visit other sites and have seen the same thing happen. It is almost as if the devil makes certain he is not identified by finding people to change the thread. DavWms
angelpurplewings said
David,
I am right on target. You said this was about demon identification. You cannot tell when you are talking to one, or to someone under the influence of one? Have you ever heard of religious spirits? These are those that crucified Jesus.
I presented the truth, and gave you all links to read for yourselves, to see what the Talmud is really about. I also stated that I have personally read parts of it, and know the comments here to be lies. But you all refused.
Instead, I was met with the antisemitic history of the church as justification for the defamation against Jews by John, and of course, the Prodigal is so hateful, and defamatory, he cannot even contain it. You approve of their behavior? Then are you one of them, or do you REALLY recognize demons when you meet them?
So, this is my point. None of you can identify the enemy. Religious spirits are everywhere, masquerading as Christians, to spread ill will and lies, and allow the devil to say his say. They have become your friends online, so you overlook their behavior. What do you get from associating with them?
angelpurplewings said
prodigal is not a christian. false claim. he is so obvious, i can smell the smoke, coming from his black, burnt wings.
John Kaniecki said
Angel,
Hi hope you are well.
I am still waiting for you to proclaim ‘Jesus as Lord’. Those are the sweetest words a true Christian can hear. Why don’t you say them?
Any way David you and Prodigal both have a point. It is true that going off on tangents distracts the intent of the thread. Sometimes these tangents get very interesting. Also Prodigal was responding to a comment on the thread and it was very specific to that comment. However Prodigal has been going on about the same subject in many different threads as well so you do have a point there.
A general message to everyone. This is a Christian blog. Christians are united under Christ and God is Love. Those are the bare essentials. Attacks on others and belittling have no place here at all!
Love,
John
David L. Williams said
I agree that belittling another has no place here, and I hope none of my comments were taken that way. Prod. has been told by several that his posts contain hate. Even one who agrees with his basic tenets has tried to show his poor witness. (In the mouths of two or more witnesses….)
I don’t think the question was pointed at me, but for the record, I do proclaim that Jesus is Lord, my Lord. I also recognize that Prod. was answering a particular question when the posts went off on a tangent. My intent was to get us back on the thread. I am in deliverance, and am concerned that new people may come in looking for help and click on this post in hopes of that help. In short order, I’m sure they would turn away when they see “Christians” bickering over subjects having nothing to do with what they came looking for.
That causes me to think the devil has a hand in turning people in need of spiritual help away from where the help is supposed to be. It is not for me to say whether Prod. is a Christian or not. I have seen Christian leaders who have persecuted the innocent who do not go along with their program, while thinking they are doing the very will of God. They do not understand they are being led by the devil, instead. They are incapable of looking past the “good” fruit they have produced, to see the rotten fruit they leave in their wake.
Perhaps a separate post by Job giving a place to people who want to vent their conspiracy theories, would help. DavWms
The Prodigal Son said
David L.W… ~~~ ~~~ I apologize, David… I got a little mixed up, I thought this was the post about the Dutch Jews rejecting Christ… ~~~ ~~~ BUT, that doesn’t mean that I was being controlled by the Devil ! Come on ! ~~~ ~~~ If the thread going a little sideways upsets you so much, then this will be my last post here (Unless the Talmudic Jew, David ever replies !) ~~~ ~~~ ‘Purplewings’… your obvious hatred for Muslims, and your refusal to affirm Christ as your Lord… gives us a good indication as to who you REALLY are… I emplore you to accept the Love of Truth into your heart, so that you may be set free ! ~~~ ~~~
The Prodigal Son said
One more point… the existence of the Talmud and it’s blasphemous contents is an incontravertible FACT – NOT a ‘conspiracy theory’ ! Just as all the evidence that shows that Israel perpetrated 9/11 is NOT THEORY… IT IS FACT !… And the doctrines of the Talmud explain the frame of mind of those who carried out these murderous acts !
David L. Williams said
Prod., no problem about getting a little mixed up. LOL, I did the same a little earlier on this post site myself. Peace. DavWms
John Kaniecki said
Prodigal Son,
Hi hope you are well.
At one time the people were sure that the world was flat!
You do not need to leave here at all I think it would be a great loss. You could simply present your view more on target to the thread.
I too am waiting for David to appear again. The first tenet of the Noahdite law according to David’s own link was not to blasphemy. So I ask the question again is worshipping Jesus as the Son of God blasphemy?
David, thank you for your confession of faith. Jesus made it plain that if we deny Him he will deny us.
I too have seen much evil in the church and the perpetrators thinking they we’re doing God’s will. It goes beyond it. The Nazis, the Japanese and the Italians Fascist all too thought they were doing noble and good work.
The bottom line is are you with Jesus or are you not. It is black and white on a very basic level, there is no middle ground.
As the song goes I have decided to follow Jesus. It was the best decision that I ever made in my entire life.
Love,
John
angelpurplewings said
david and john
Jesus is the Lord of my life, my savior and redeemer, and King. I am his bride and he is the love of my life. I stand in awe of him every day. Each morning I spend with him, before i start my day. At bedtime, and during the night, I cannot rest until I have spoken to him in my heart. In him, I walk, and live and have my being. He is all I think about and hope for. Nothing else matters. I defend his truth, and those are close to his heart.
prod son
good name for you. time to return. stop the defamation against Jews. I do not hate muslims. I hate the God of the muslims who has deceived them. Allah is satan.
David L. Williams said
One problem going on here is that there are so many Davids. #;o) It gets confusing which is talking or being talked to. Sometimes even in the same paragraph. As for this David, I certainly do not consider it blasphemy to worship my Lord and Savior, Jesus. And He is the Word, the very Son of God.
The same problem developed on another site, where 3 or 4 Davids were posting on the same thread. Even 2 with the same last name. So we tried to make sure we knew which was which in our posts. DavWms
The Prodigal Son said
John… ~~~ ~~~ Thank you, brother… I did not mean that I was going to leave Jesus Christology… just that David was right, and we are way off topic, so I wish to allow this thread to return to it’s original topic… ~~~ ~~~ Re: ‘defamation against Jews’… Can we all agree that the entire New Testament is FULL of indictments of Jews, or ‘defamation against Jews’ ? This is why Abraham Foxman of the ADL (anti-defamation league) has branded the New Testament as ‘anti-semetic’, and has called for it to be banned ! Mel Gibson’s master work – ‘The Passion (of the Christ)’ – was likewise branded as ‘anti-semetic’… they even tried to have Mel arrested as a terrorist for ‘inciting hatred against the Jews’ ! When will Christians realize that the (fake) ‘Jews’ of today follow the very same ‘traditions of men’ which Jesus Himself railed against ? Was God Himself ‘anti-semetic’ ?!?
John Kaniecki said
Angel,
Hi hope you are well.
Paul says in Galatians that if anybody preaches another gospel let him be accursed. I readily agree this applies to muslims. It applies to the Jews as well or for that matter anyone who fails to accept Jesus as messiah.
Love,
John
angel said
Hi john,
Yes, i know traditional jews are not saved. But they will be soon. This is one reason God is bringing them back to their homeland, to give them another chance to reach out and call out and believe in their messiah.
The Jews do not preach any false gospel. They are not evangelistic in practice. they just attend to their own prayers. The talmud really does not contain the falsehoods that it is accused of. It is just a bunch of civil laws.
However, the muslims do preach another Jesus, and do it actively. Muslims do practice evangelism, and are very aggressive about presenting a false Jesus.
My hope is that none should perish. I hope the gospel can reach into muslim lands, as well as Israel, and change the people for the better.
angel said
Anja
you are right in the criticism. Modern Christianity is not representative of what jesus taught.
before you throw it away in your mind, go back and read what Jesus taught….and read how the people lived in the early days…….THAT is the REAL thing……healing the sick, feeding the poor and the widow, calling people to repent of wickedness and sins, fellowship in the homes, love of brethren, sharing all things in common….etc.
angel said
john.
googling Talmud will get you a lot of propaganda…….and defamation ……look at the links I provided, and read for yourself.
Diane said
Angel
I am a supporter of Israel in their right to exist in safety and peace, I also believe it is important to speak the truth to counter the lies spoken against the Jewish people.
My own personal studies of the treatment of women of different cultures and backgrounds, revealed misogynistic and sexually immoral teachings in the Talmud and Islamic holy books, that I find hard to dismiss as propaganda. These women were treated as property and sexual sins were punished differently according to gender. Men wrote these highly esteemed books, that gave license to the lust of men and taught the inferiority of women.
If you could give your opinions of whether these quotes are all false and perhaps comment on what you believe to be the belief of the writers of the Talmud on these topics. (BTW, there are esteemed christian so-called and wrongly-called ‘fathers’ with derogatory writings as well, that are a grief to God. So my concern is not limited to the Talmud, I only ask because you have stated that these quotes are false)
-taught that our Savior practised sorcery and enticed Israel in to apostasy. Babylonian Talmud Seder Nezikin, Vol III Sanhedrin
-taught that Adam had sex with animals before the creation of Eve
Babylonian Talmud Seder Nashim Vol I Yebamouth
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I personally believe that the law concerning the 3yr old was put in place in case the young girl was raped- the law, as I interpret it is guaranteeing that if the young girl marries (when she is older) and her husband wants to divorce her, he still has to pay the Ketubbah, because she was still considered a virgin before marriage, even though she was raped as a child.