Expelling Demons
Actually, Christ places casting out demons before the speaking with new tongues. There is significance in this order. The intention is that the people shall first be fully delivered from demons before they seek the baptism in the Spirit and the speaking with new tongues. However, through lack of discernment and understanding, this is not practiced in the church today. The result is that people nowadays are quite often baptized in the Holy Spirit and speak with new tongues but still need deliverance from demons after that. It is time for the church to devote prayerful, open-minded study to the subject of demonology.
The New Testament Greek word for “demon” is daimonion. This is the diminutive form of another Greek word, daimon. In Greek mythology and folklore, these words were used to describe a special class of beings to whom were attributed varying degrees of supernatural influence or power. Various cults and superstitious observances centered in these beings, and they played an important part in the daily life of the common people.
In the King James Version the Greek word daimonion is often translated “devil.” However, this is incorrect. The word “devil” is formed from the Greek word diabolos, which means literally “slanderer.” In Scripture, this normally is reserved as a term for Satan himself.
Associated in the New Testament with the noun daimonion is the passive verb daimonizomai. The literal meaning of this verb is “to be demonized” – that is, to be in some way under the influence or power of demons. Thus the meaning of the verb is very general. In the King James Version this verb is usually translated by some phrase such as to be “possessed” or to be “vexed” by demons or evil spirits. However, there are no distinctions in the original Greek text to which these various different English words correspond. Some preachers have worked out elaborate distinctions between possession, oppression, or obsession by demons. However, there is nothing in the original Greek to support these distinctions.
Two other phrases normally used in this connection in the New Testament are “evil spirit” and “unclean spirit.” A comparison of Revelation 16, verses 13 and 14, would seem to indicate that the two phrases “unclean spirits” and “spirits of demons” are used more or less interchangeably. There are three main elements that are associated with the concept of personality. These three elements are: knowledge, will, and emotion. It is important to see that all these three elements of personality are found in the New Testament picture of demons.
Demons possess knowledge. In Mark 1:24, the demon in the main synagogue at Capernaum said to Yeshua HaMashiach, “I know who you are – the Holy One of God!” In Acts 19:15, the evil spirit in the man at Ephesus said to the seven sons of Sceva, “Yeshua I know [acknowledge], and Paul I know [know about]; but who are you?” Demons possess will. In Matthew 12:14, the unclean spirit who has gone out of the man but can find no place of rest, says, “I will return to my house from which I came.” In Luke 8:31-33, the demons in the man of Gadarenes displayed very strongly their will not to be cast into the abyss, but rather to be allowed to enter into the swine. Demons possess emotion. In James 2:19 we read, “Even the demons believe – and tremble!”
Another fact that attests to the personality of demons is their ability to speak. This is recorded in many passages of the New Testament. We sometimes can attribute the concept of personality to anything that is able to express its meaning in intelligible speech. By every standard, therefore, we see that demons display all of the attributes of personality. This is of tremendous importance. Christian believers are in no position to deal with demons successfully until they recognize that demons, beings that God originally created as angels that chose evil and rebelled against Him, are beings, not things. A demon is not a habit or a mental state or a psychological condition. A demon is a spirit being!
One means by which the presence or activity of demons may be detected is with the supernatural manifestation gift of the Holy Spirit called in 1 Corinthians 12:10 “discerning of spirits.” Many Christians that have been baptized in the Holy Spirit manifest some measure of this discernment, but quite often they do not fully realize the nature of this operation of the Holy Spirit, and therefore they do not make effective use of it. Discernment of this kind needs to be cultivated with regular exercise. For this reason, we read in Hebrews 5:14 of believers “who are of full age [maturity], that is who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.” In the church today there are all too few believers who exhibit this mark of spiritual maturity.
If Christians are willing to exercise their spiritual senses, they will soon begin to discover that there are many different symptoms that commonly indicate the presence or activity of demons. Some of the most common of these symptoms are set forth under two headings: first mental/emotional related primarily to the inner nature and personality; second physical related primarily to the outward bodily appearance and condition.
1. Mental/emotional
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- Persistent or recurrent evil or destructive emotions or attitudes that can dominate a person, even contrary to his own will or nature e.g. resentment, hatred, fear, envy, jealousy, pride, self – pity, tension, impatience.
- “Moods” – unreasonable, sudden, extreme fluctuations e.g. from talkative exhilaration to taciturn depression.
- Various forms of religious error or bondage e.g. submission to unscriptural doctrines or prohibitions, unnatural asceticism, refusal to eat normal foods, superstitious observances of all kinds, all forms of idolatry.
- Resorting to charms, fortune telling, astrology, mediums, etc.
- Enslaving habits e.g. gluttony, alcohol, nicotine, drugs, sexual immorality or perversion of all kinds, uncontrollable or unclean thoughts or looks.
- Blasphemy mocker, unclean language.
- Persistent or violent opposition to the truth of Scripture or the work of the Holy Spirit.
- Physical
- Unnatural restlessness and talkativeness, muttering.
- The eyes glazed or unnaturally bright and protruding or unable to focus naturally.
- Frothing at the mouth, fetid breath.
- Palpitation or unnaturally accelerated action of the heart.
- Shunning, recoiling from, or fighting against the power of the Holy Spirit.
In many cases one of these symptoms alone would not be conclusive indication of demonic presence or activity. But where several of these symptoms are found together, the probability of demon activity is extremely high.
In addition to these symptoms, the New Testament indicates plainly that demons are often the cause of purely physical sicknesses or infirmities. For instance, in Luke 13:11 we read of a “woman who had a spirit of infirmity eighteen years, and was bent over and could in no way raise herself up.” As soon as this woman was delivered from this spirit of infirmity, her physical condition became completely normal Yeshua himself described her as “a daughter of Abraham” (v. 16). That is to say, she was a true believer. There is no suggestion that she was guilty of any special sin. The power of the demon was manifested solely in her physical body.
Again, in Acts 19:12, we read concerning the ministry of Paul in Ephesus, “so that even handkerchiefs or aprons were brought from his body to the sick, and the diseases left them and the evil spirits went out of them.” Here “evil spirits” and “diseases” are associated together in a way that implies at times some kind of causal relationship between them. The following are some common mental or physical conditions that are sometimes caused by demons: insanity, insomnia, epilepsy, fits, cramps, migraines, sinus infections, tumors, ulcers, heart disease, arthritis, paralysis, dumbness, deafness, and blindness.
What are the conditions for deliverance from the destructive influence and power of demons? The first condition is a correct diagnosis. In 1 Corinthians 9:26 Paul describes his ministry as follows: “Thus I fight: not as one beats the air.” Where Christians are confronted by demons but do not realize the nature of their enemies, they are like a boxer who lashes out wildly with his fists but never lands his blows upon his opponent’s body. They may expend much time and energy, but they never make real “contact” with the unseen enemies who oppose them. For this reason, relatively little is accomplished. Once the presence and activity of demons have been correctly diagnosed, there are a number of further conditions for deliverance. Some of these concern the believer who is seeking to minister deliverance; others concern the person who needs deliverance.
The following are five important conditions that a believer administering deliverance, or “deliverance minister”, should fulfill:
1. The minister must recognize the authority delegated to him in the Name of Yeshua. Yeshua Himself said, “In My Name they will cast out demons” (Mark 16:17). Then, in Luke 10:17 we read, “The seventy returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your Name.” In Acts 16:18, when Paul spoke to the spirit of divination in the slave girl at Philippi, he said, “I command you in the name of Yeshua HaMashiach to come out of her.”
2. The minister needs the power of the Holy Spirit. In Matthew 12:28, Yeshua said “If I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, sure the kingdom of God has come unto you.” He thus attributed His ability to cast out demons to the power of the Holy Spirit, the Ruach Hakadosh. Likewise in Luke 4:18 He attributed to the anointing of the Holy Spirit His ability “to proclaim liberty [or deliverance] to the captives … to set at liberty those who are oppressed.”
- The minister must understand and apply to each case the relevant principles of Scripture that define the conditions for forgiveness of sins and the legal basis of redemption through the Blood of Yeshua.
- The minister must often be prepared to provide both the time and place for intimate personal counseling. Generally speaking, the most unsuitable time or place is at the altar of a church during a public service!
- The minister must beware of spiritual pride in any form. He must be motivated by sincere, God – given passion for the one who needs deliverance. In all the outreaches of the church today, there is no more needy or pitiful class of persons than those who require deliverance from demons.
We may now turn to the case of the one who needs deliverance: the patient.
- Humility. The patient must, in humility, submit himself to God before he can resist the devil (see James 4:6-7).
- Honesty. This demands a full and frank acknowledgment both of the patient’s condition and of any sins that may have contributed to that condition (see Psalm 32:1-5).
- Confession. The patient must specifically confess to God all known sin (see 1 John 1:9). In addition, he may also have to make confession to the one who is praying with him for deliverance. This is implied by the words of James 5:16 “Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another.” This speaks of confession not merely to God, but also to man. The order is first “confess” then “pray.”
- Renunciation. It is not enough to confess sin without renouncing it. “He who covers his sins will not prosper, but whoever confesses and forsakes them will have mercy (Proverbs 28:13).” “Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts; let him return to the Lord, and He will have mercy on him; and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon” (Isaiah 55:7). This sinner must forsake not only “his way” (any inward sinful leanings or desires, even though these are not expressed in outward acts). “Forsaking” must come before “mercy” and “pardon.”
- Forgiveness. The one who desires forgiveness from God must first forgive his fellow men. Resentment and an unforgiving spirit are two of the most common hindrances to deliverance. In Hebrews 12:15, we are warned against “any root of bitterness.” Wherever bitterness has poisoned the heart, it must be totally removed, so that not even a root of it is left. There is special significance in the order of words in the Lord’s Prayer in Matthew 6:9-13. First, “forgive us our debts [or trespasses] as we forgive our debtors [or those who trespass against us].” That is to say, our forgiveness from God is in proportion to our forgiveness from our fellow men. Then, “Deliver us from the evil one.” That is to say, forgiveness must come before deliverance. Without forgiveness, we have no right to deliverance.
- When the patient has met the above five conditions, he is then in a position to claim the promise of Joel 2:32: “Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved [or delivered].” Calling aloud upon the Name of the Lord Yeshua HaMashiach normally sets in motion the process of deliverance.
It is important to realize that deliverance is normally a process. This process may be brief or long and drawn out, it may be intense and dramatic, or it may be quiet and scarcely perceptible. But whenever a person is delivered from a demon, there is some definite experience or reaction. When there is no definite experience or reaction, it is questionable whether deliverance has really taken place.
In this connection, certain very simple common sense principles apply. If there is a demon anywhere within a person, then that demon must come out. Unless the demon actually comes out, there has been no deliverance. Normally a demon will seek to remain in hiding rather than be compelled to manifest its presence and come out.
A demon is a “spirit.” The Greek word for “spirit”, pneuma, also means “breath.” A person’s breath normally enters or leaves his body through his mouth or nose. The same is true of demons/evil spirits. When a demon comes out of a person, it normally comes out through his mouth. At this point, there is usually some definite manifestation. The following are some manifestations connected with the mouth that commonly mark the culmination of the process of deliverance: a hiss, a cough, sobbing, screaming, roaring, belching, spitting, or vomiting.
The phenomena of screaming or roaring are referred to in Acts 8:7: “Unclean spirits, crying with a loud voice, came out of many who were possessed.” However, these are only two out of various possible phenomena connected in some way with the mouth. Experience has convinced me that different classes of demons exhibit different types of behavior. For example, demons of sexual uncleanness normally come out with some forms of spitting or vomiting (and quite often large amounts of slimy, mucous material are brought up in the process). The demon of fear normally comes out with a kind of hysterical sobbing or whimpering. The demons of lying and of hatred utter a loud roar. The demon of smoking addiction comes out with a cough or gasp.
It sometimes happens that demons virtually set aside the personality of the patient and manifest and express their own personality through him. At times, they take control of the patient’s organs of speech and use these to utter their own words. Sometimes this causes an obvious change of voice. A gruff, masculine type of voice may be heard out of a woman’s throat. It sometimes happens also that the demon within a person may understand and speak a language not known to the person himself. In such cases, the minister may exercise the authority delegated to him through the Name of Yeshua and may command each demon to name itself, thus revealing its nature and activity. The following are some of the names that I have heard given: fear, hatred, lies, doubt, envy, jealousy, confusion, perversity, schizophrenia, death, suicide, adultery, mockery, blasphemy, witchcraft. I have also heard a number of other names too obscene to print.
Today, by divine providence, the veils of convention and carnality are once again being drawn aside, and the church of Yeshua HaMashiach is being confronted by the same manifest opposition of demon power that confronted the church of the New Testament. In these circumstances, the church must again explore the resources of authority and power made available to it through the Truth of Scripture, the anointing of the Holy Spirit, and the Name and the Blood of the Lord Yeshua HaMashiach.
(C) 1970 Derek Prince Ministries International derekprince.org
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Gail McBride said
I have mind attacks which happen often when bad thoughts pop in my mind saying @#$% to God and when I try to pray keep getting confused mixed up thoughts also I have sexual thoughts that come to my mind
I cannot control these attacks I been to the doctors he has me on medicine for anixity and also belong to church and a bible study I have spoken to my Pastor she prays for healing over me
Nothing is working yet
I continue to pray for God’s healing and control over me
ALso when I call out to my Lord Jesus-Jesus saves me !!!
it helps me
Any help would be greatly appreicated
Gail
JOY to the World! said
Dear Gail; The Word says that we must first bind the strong man. This is what the Lord has taught me about this. First you say this out loud. In the Name of Jesus confussion I bind you in chains and cast you into the abbyss, you have no home here. Then you must do the same to the thoughts, don”t give them any place in your mind. Give NO place to the devil! You may have to do this many times as the longer this has been going on the better you are at hearing. Anything we do a lot is practise and we get good at it weather it is good or bad. You must also replace those bad thoughts with the Word of God. We will be who we practise to be. We must be like Jesus. The enemy recognises the Holy Spirit of God in you. Also you must have that Spirit spoken of in the book of Acts 2nd chapter. This is the way the people of that day spoke and acted when the Holy Ghost came in to them. It is still the same today. Also I want to tell you that in the day that we are living in you must bind the evil spirits and you MUST cast them into the abbyss. The Lord spoke to me specificately about the importance of this. The abbyss is the sides of the pit that goes into Hell. A bound demon cannot come back out if you will put it where he belongs. Now I want to tell you about the medication. The word tells us that one of the biggest problems we would face would be pharmacia. or prescription drugs. The type of drugs that are given for depression or hyper activity, bi-polar and many other problems are open doors to demonic activity. I know you probably don”t want to hear this , however the Word is true. The Word Commands that we are to study the word of God to show ourselves approved unto God, not man. When we study we gather information about the subjects we are reading about. There are a lots of evidence in other books about the history of the Bible. Don”t subject yourself to opinion of people. You cannot count on just going to church. You must have a relationship with Jesus where He gets to talk more than you and you get to listen to the awesome voice of the Most High. There is no greater pleasure than to hear Him say I love you and you are My friend. I pray that this will help you. When the victory comes I hope you will post a shout on this site as I would love to rejoice with you. God bless you in love, Joye
Danelle Church said
I have a demon that molests me sexually, almost constantly and the molestation is not pleasurable. It rapes the uretha of bladder. I think I may have 7-8 (?) demons. I am vibrated, grabbed,helt back,weighed down grabbed by the spine when I lean over and walk about. Someone told me that they heard these demons MOCKING at a failed deliverance service. I have stopped all sexual sin over ten yrs. ago, still the demons stay and oppose the Name and Blood. When the deliverance fails, and it has so far for 15 yrs, the Minister will no longer have anything to do with me. Won’t answer phone or e-mails. I am a Christian. Does anyone have any idea waht is holding the demons in? I use tobacco orally (non-smoker) I know it is a stronghold. I also have a spirit of grief and anxiety. Any suggestions for me? I am desperate!!!!!I need help and can not do self-deliverance so far. I will be thankful if you can explain anything to me. I opened the doors to others spirits too. I am in HELL!
Danelle Church said
I have demons that I need help in expelling. Too lengthy to go into but they mock at deliverance session.No one has been able to help me. but my faith is in the blood and victory of the cross.Does anyone have a comment? I need to write further.
Danelle Church said
what is meant by moderation?
Eden Hadassah said
Danelle,
I would like to help you if I can, but the real help will come from the Lord, and from Jesus our Savior.
Why do you focus on the cross? The Lord finished his work once and for all. He is no longer on that cross. I know that I will probably get hammered by someone for saying that, but just hear me out…
Jesus came, lived a sinless life, gave his all for us, suffered on a cross, died and three days later was raised from the dead through the power of the Holy Spirit. You know this right? So why focus on something that was made of wood? Was there any power in the wood, or did all the power dwell in the one who gave his life? The cross did not die for your sins, and no matter how well meaning the image is, you must focus on your redeemer, not on the wood, the nails, the spear that pierced his side or those who nailed him to the cross. All the power, glory and honor belongs to Jesus! Not to the cross! The cross was a fact, but so was the tomb he was buried in. I would like you to have a proper place to put your focus, or else it will be false worship. You can not look to the cross, you must look to Jesus and his blood shed for you. First you must remove all improper views of our Lord so that you can worship him in Spirit and in Truth.
Next, it is truth that when Jesus died on the cross, he stripped Satan of his power, nailing it to the cross and made a public spectacle of him. (I am paraphrasing). Again, Jesus did it. Your love, adoration and faith must be built upon the truth. Tobacco is not listed in the bible as a sin, but because it is a grey area, if you believe it is a sin, then it is a sin to you. (Others may not agree with me on this either)
Next, you do not need others to deliver you, Jesus will do that. Do not be quick to allow others to “lay hands” on you, because you do not know what they may have influencing them.
Now on to my story…
Twenty years ago, I became a believer, and for the first six months of my new life in the Lord, I was so deeply amazed with all scripture. I ate it up. During that time, I was married to an abusive man who claimed himself to be a “back sliden” christian who married me because I was not saved. He had deep conflicts within himself and claimed he was visited by demons. We were only married one year when I accepted the Lord, and I hid it from him because he was becoming increasingly violent towards me. But one day, as he was beating me, I just stood up and looked at him, and as he looked into my eyes, he said…You’re born again! And with that, he ran out of the house, and abandoned my infant daughter and I, draining our bank account and leaving us with nothing. But he left something behind…he left something spiritual, that stayed in my apartment. I could feel it. So I started to obsess over it. But the Lord was there too. I will give you an example… When my daughter was about eight months old, she used to love to cruise around in her walker. I had this large radio on top of the fridge…the cord was plugged in, and hanging down just low enough for my daughter to grab it. She was in her walker directly under the cord, and with a yank, pulled the radio off the top of the fridge! She was looking up at it and it was literally three inches from her face, when all of the sudden, a huge noise came from the radio as it was being smacked away from my daughters face…I did not do it. I watched as that radio, which was also plugged in, fly across the room with force, yanking the plug out of the wall and smashing into the wall across the kitchen. She was untouched, and not even phased by the event.
That is just one example. So I became even more obsessed, and the more I concentrated on it, the more it happened. It had gotten to the point, where I was attacked in the middle of the night, because I would wake up and be sunken into my bed, with what felt like 200 pounds on my chest. I could not open my mouth either. All I could do was pray to the Lord, in Jesus name. Then it would leave. But it would return. And I became even more obsessed. A year after I was saved, I was raped in my apartment by someone I was aquainted with. I did not know him well. I was a peaceful pro-life protester by this point and would often get arrested with my dad. At a demonstration just a few months before I was raped, a woman started shouting at me that if I were raped I would get an abortion! Boy, her words came to mind after I was raped. But I choose to carry the baby to term, and six months into the pregnacy three things happened to me. First, I sought a way to stop obsessing. I prayed and the Lord answered that prayer when I went to the book store and bought a book called “Satan is No Myth” by J. Oswald Saunders. After reading that book, I never obessed again. I fell on my face before the Lord and I asked him to forgive me for my obsession with things that were not of Him and asked him to touch me instead. As I was on my face, I felt this warm hand on my back, and I froze. It was a feeling I had never felt before. His hand then felt as though it had just gone straight through my skin and into my heart, and I felt peace and a love that I had never felt before. From that point on, I never had another attack from the enemy, nor did I pay attention to them when I could feel they were present. It was during that time that I decided to keep the baby inside of me. Three months later, I gave birth to a ten pound baby girl, who I appropriately named Hannah, which in hebrew means grace.
The second thing that happened, was at the hour of night that I always seemed to get spiritually attacked, the light on my nightstand would go on instead, and a scripture chapter and verse would enter my mind, so I would get up and go and find out what the chapter and verse said. When Hannah was born, the light no longer went on, and I no longer got up in the middle of the night…except to feed her! (I never told my children about this, and when my first daughter was pregnant, she started waking up to the light going on and the radio coming on…this scared her, and I told her, “the Lord is trying to tell you something, go open your bible and you will see.” So she did, and sure enough, she opened to a random chapter, but it spoke directly to her with encouragement and love, and she began to cry. This happened to her through out her whole pregnancy, and it stopped after my grand-daughter was born.
The third thing that happened to me, was that I discovered through that time that He had all the answers, all the deliverance and all the strength that I would ever need. I began to allow him to teach me, and when I would get home on a Friday night service, from listening to my rabbi’s message (messianic), I would ask the Lord to show me even more than what I had learned that day, and true to form, He would.
If you seek Him with all your heart, and understand that he is far more powerful then any “spirit” you may encounter, you will begin to rest in Him. When we do not understand something, we can become afraid. Give it to Jesus, and focus on him. When I say focus on Jesus, I do not mean just going through the scriptures and learning about him. That is like going through love letters. The relationship with him, combines his love letters to you, with experiencing the Lover of your soul. You have said that you stopped all sexual sin ten years ago, and if you have repented, then he has forgotten it, and so should you.
I will be praying for you Danelle. I hope that I have made a little sense, if not…sorry.
May you be blessed with the richness of his love that can build and strengthen your faith, bringing you into his rest, and delighting over you with his love song to you, and you alone.
Jason said
1 Corinthians 1:18- For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. “IT” is the power of God. I’m not mad or anything..I just wanted to point out that the word proclaims it to be the power of God.
So if we are not to look to the cross, then the word of God is a lie????
Vicki Simmons said
Dear Friends -
I want to introduce you to an anointed Restoration/Deliverance Minister out of Austin, Texas. Her name is Sheila Ramsey and she works out of her home providing counseling and deliverance with a team of highly trained and Spirit-led brothers and sisters in the Lord. I won’t go to extensive conversation here but will refer you to her Shoutlife page at http://www.shoutlife.com/gospelrevelation. Once you go to this page scroll down to the bottom for the testimony of Karen Mayer Cunningham. Just click on Karen’s picture and it will take you to her website. Karen’s son James was Autistic and went through the ministry and is a healthy and vibrant 12 year old today. He is also extremely intelligent and very funny. This wonderful young man was almost destroyed by demons but God in his great goodness and mercy, led Karen to this ministry several years ago where James was delivered from the demonic. Sheila has the Gift of Discernment and Word of Knowledge Prophetic which enables her to get at the root of the problem. While Sheila has been in the ministry for 35 years, James was the first Autistic child that she and her team worked with and they were led by the Holy Spirit through the entire process…yes, many times, depending on the severity, it is a process. Since that time, they have worked successfully with 9 autistic children and countless other adults entrapped by the enemy and his lies. I became acquainted with this ministry in March 2005 and have seen their fruit first-hand….it is an awesome thing to see lives completely restored and set free in the name of our wonderful Lord, Jesus.
Leo said
Danelle
Are you anywhere near Southern California? Help is near
Victory is so close.
All fallen spirits are subject unto us by HIS authority given to us.
God Bless
Lafe said
The above article is fine…on some points but understand that
no where do you find in the Word of God that the expelling of demons was a “process” and no where do you find the Lord or anyone else going through those “steps” as given by Mr. Prince. That is manmade and “man added” to the gospel.
I would not follow those steps. We have enough of an example in the Word of God as demonstrated by Jesus and the apostles as to
how to expel demons. Process!? Come on. Get real.
healtheland said
Lafe:
Perhaps you are correct. I do admit that many others have raised these same objections both on this weblog and in other places. However, such objectors to date have not been able to provide information that is more helpful or practical.
Perhaps you can succeed where they failed. If you are in possession of more Biblical process for spiritual deliverance, one based on both Bible doctrine and personal experience in deliverance, or are aware of some others and can personally testify to its effectiveness by either your experience or personal witness, please return and provide it to me. I will be glad to remove the teachings of Frank Hammond and Derek Prince from my weblog in favor of a more Biblically based method.
Otherwise, I will have to continue to feature the works of Hammond and Prince, for it was using their methodologies that I myself was delivered from many evil spirits over the course of many months. I hold the opinion that if it worked for me, helped free me from sinful behavior and brought me closer to Christ Jesus, then there is no evil in it and furthermore that it can work for any other Christian that God chooses to help and be glorified by virtue of that method. But I am always desiring to move from spiritual milk to meat in what I practice and seek to cause others to practice, so if you have the milk please share it.
Get real? Were personally being delivered from evil spirits not my own real experience, this weblog would be one of the many Christian ones that never deal with the subject, even in abstraction. Or more likely, I would be so vexed and oppressed with evil spirits that I would not have the desire to even maintain a weblog to glorify Christ Jesus in the first place. That is why despite the many valid objections to the teachings of Prince, Hammond, and similar, their teachings remain until someone is able to provide something better.
Eden Hadassah said
J. Oswald Saunders has an excellent and balanced teaching on not only the subject of Satan and Demons, but also movements and “demonology.”
J. O. Sanders offers this interesting description of the counterfiet nature of Satan:
Satan has his own trinity–the devil, the beast, and the false prophet (Revelation 16:13).
He has his own church, “a synagogue of Satan” (Revelation 2:9).
He has his own ministers, “ministers of Satan” (2 Corinthians 11:4-5).
He has formulated his own system of theology “doctrines of demons” (1 Timothy 4:1).
He has established his own sacrificial system; “The Gentiles…sacrifice to demons” (1 Corinthians 10:20).
He has his own communion service, “the cup of demons…and the table of demons” (1 Corinthians 10:21).
His ministers proclaim his own gospel, “a gospel contrary to that which we have preached to you” (Galatians 1:7-8).
He has his own throne (Revelation 13:2) and his own worshipers (Revelation 13:4).
So he has developed a thorough imitation of Christianity, viewed as a system of religion.
In his role as the imitator of God, he inspires false christs, self-constituted messiahs (Matthew 24:4-5).
He employs false teachers who are specialists in his “theology,” to bring in “destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them” (2 Peter 2:1). They are adept at mixing truth and error in such proportions as to make error palatable. They carry on their teaching surreptitiously and often anonymously.
He sends out false prophets. “And many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many” (Matthew 24:11).
He introduces false brethren into the church, who “had sneaked in to spy out our liberty…in order to bring us into bondage” (Galatians 2:4).
He sponsors false apostles who imitate the true (2 Corinthians 11:13).
J.O. Sanders, Satan is No Myth, Moody, 1975, pp. 35-36.
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J. O. Sanders offers this summary of the strategies of Satan:
Strategies of Satan with unbelievers:
1) blinding the minds of the unregenerate (2 Cor. 4:4).
2) snatching away the good seed of the word (Matthew 13:19).
3) lulling the unbeliever into a false sense of security (Luke 11:21).
4) laying snares for the unwary (2 Timothy 2:25-26).
5) masquerading as an angel of light (2 Cor 11:13-14).
6) deceiving those whose minds are not subject to the Word of truth (Rev 12:9).
7) mixing truth with error (Matthew 13:25-8).
Strategies of Satan with believers:
1) annihilate the church or neutralize its witness from within (Acts 5:1-6).
2) virulent persecution from without.
3) smother its witness by according it great popularity.
4) disturb the unity of the church by creating discord and division
5) subversion of the church through apostasy and heresy (2 Peter 2:1-2).
J.O. Sanders, Satan is No Myth, Moody, 1975, p. 72ff.
Minister Patrick Williams said
I am in agreement with Healtheland. But I will also add the following. This kind cometh out by prayer and fasting. If the minister is not one who fasts the devil will often refuse to leave, not because of the name of Jesus or the blood, but because the person speaking the word has failed to maintain his walk.
As ministers, we all must stay in position at all times. We must fast and pray when no one else is willing to. Jesus removed himself each morning to spend time with God, and often fasted, so his body was continually under subjection. We must do likewise or when we call on the masters name devils won’t move because we have failed to stay connected. Consider fasting from 8 til noon daily.
In 1989 my wife and I were call to a ladies house in El Paso Texas. She was seeing a wolf run up and down her hallway. And when it finished running, the door bell would ring. This happened every day. When she’d open the door, it was always a young girl with blond hair and blue eyes asking the same question each time, “can I come in?”
When we arrived at her house we asked her some questions. Do you deal with the occult? Tarot cards, etc. She said no!
When I stood to go into her bedroom, I could hear the devils breathing. Each room I went into, it would run into another. The fear was so thick it was like wearing a steel ball and chain around my legs. Finally I reached the last room, and as I had said before, In the name of Jesus, and His shed blood, leave this house. Sudden I felt a wind pass me and exist through the door, which was shut.
This is but one of many encounters I have had over twenty years, but I have learned that fasting is still for today. Later we found that the lady had done transcendental traveling through mediation.
Minister Patrick Williams said
Has anyone read Derrick Princes book blessing and curses. He went into detail concerning much of the problems we face today.
Kate said
The devil is scapegoat for weak people who have to have someone to blame for their mistakes. Jesus thought the way to cure illnesses was to cast out demons. In that age of ignorance and superstition, people thought sickness was due to demon possession. How would any of you feel is your loved one was sick and someone suggested they were demon filled? Why do any of you go to the doctor? Doesn’t your bible tell you is any of you are sick you are to go to the elders and have them annoint you with oil and pray the prayer of faith and YOU WILL BE HEALED?! If christians don’t do what the bible says and they obviously don’t believe it either, why try to convert the world? Let a christian get sick and they will run to the doctor just as fast as anyone.
I suggest standing up like men. Stop bowing and groveling at the imagined feet of a myth. The devil is not after you. You are not important enough for him to worry about if he was real.
I bet some of you still believe the earth is the center of the universe, that it is flat with four corners and the sun revolves around it.
Minister Patrick Williams said
It is very interesting to read what people who really do not study the bible have to say. Your understanding is limited concerning the word of God. Jesus did not think everyone had a devil.
But the enemy is real. He desires to get people, much like yourself to believe he is not. You don’t believe the devil is real so you don’t see a need to repent. For what? You’re just as good as a Christian! I’m a good person.
But if you’ve ever lie, then you, I or anyone else is a lair. If you, I or any else has ever stolen, then we are a thief. But you can’t see this because the enemy has seperated you from the flock.
Many people say, Christians make me sick thinking they’re better then me. The devil his already fooled you into believing this is what you hear and see Christians saying, and doing. But we know we need help. We minister, speak and tell others to help them understand they can’t do it by themselves. Jesus took care of this.
Many people had sicknesses that were healed by His anointed power. Some, however did have devils that actually mimmicked diseases. Many people with mental illness have problems with the brain, whereas others have problems that are spiritual.
Many of our modern day doctors have come to understand the need for spiritual healing before the body can be healed.
I don’t see a single Christian trying to save the world alone, and every Christian here knows they can do nothing without God. We have been commissioned to open our mouth’s and proclaim; letting God sort out who is who, by drawing men to him by His Spirit.
However your choice is just as important. It is the enemy who sees this drawing and rushes to stop it by blinding mans eyes with theroies and false religions. Or by getting men to call out to the right God, the wrong way, (That being with your own knowledge of God.) Does this sound like you!
God commands we seek others, telling them about His love. It is not because we want to. We have already excepted His love and know where we are going, but we are commanded to share the message with others, else they die and taste hell. We get sick like everyone else. We get cold, hungry, and feel alone many times. The enemy bares down on us to stop us from telling people like yourself about God.
Do you think the devil is going to come out and tell you, “hay! Here I am. I was trying to hide!”
We are not trying to make you believe, or force God down anyones throat. We no that everyone is not going to believe but we share the message out of love anyhow.
We see our family members dying, many being unrepentant, and just like you we are saddenned by their choice of not receiving God’s love. Open your eye’s. He’s already got you and you didn’t know it!!!! Smile. Now you stand before God without an excuse!
Eden Hadassah said
Minister,
I personally don’t care for Derrick Prince, but I do like what J. Oswald Saunders has to say. He has a book called “Satan is no Myth,” along with others. The other book that I enjoyed of his was “Spiritual Leadership.”
Kate said
Patrick,
I am sure you believe everything you say and you are being kind, however, you are the one who is deceived. I live in the south in the midst of the bible thumpers. I know how they are, I was raised to be one. I tried all my life to make sense of nonsense and justify the hideous acts of a god that would make a devil look like a saint. How many times does satan appear in the entire OT? He isn’t mentioned more than a half dozen times. Sheol in the OT does not mean hell, it means the grave. The OT also says that the dead know nothing and will not live again. There was no hell until the NT. Also, if the serpent in the garden was satan and god cursed him to crawl on his belly and eat dust the rest of his days, why isn’t he crawling on his belly when he appears before god along with the rest of the ’sons of god’ and says he has been walking unpon the earth? Snakes may crawl but they do not eat dust.
God punishes the entire world for what two people did?!!!! Do you punish your kids for what one does? Would you punish your grandkids for what your kids did? Even the common man and courts know better than that. What kind of warped hateful judgement is that? If your kids did wrong by you, would you throw them into an eternal fire to suffer forever and then laugh at them? Hell, no if you have one cell of decency. You would put your arms around them and tell them you love them. You would never hold a grudge against them.
If humans can love like that, how much more should a god be able to love? How would you explain a god that commands the rape of little girls? If our soldiers do such as that in war, we would be horrified. We would demand justice for those children, yet no one flinches when Yahweh, the god of fornication and debauchery, takes delight in savage sexual attacks on innocent children. Any person who can’t see something very wrong with that needs to read the bible again. I have read it many times and it gets more revolting with each reading.
You call yourself a minister and you appear to be very ignorant of what your own bible teaches. If I was a praying person, I would be the one praying for you. You most likely make your living off of a congregation of deceived people and have never worked for a living.
You open your eyes!
Kate said
Expelling demons…lol excuse me but this would be a great condition for the drug companies to jump on with a cure. They could call it Demon Expectorant….just a spoonful once a day and you will cough those nasty little demons right up.
If there was such a huge need for demon casting in the bible, what happened? Is the church ashamed of this little doctrine and that is why it is no longer in vogue? I guess now days when people get all prettied up in their sunday best and drive to church in their expensive cars it just isn’t kosher to thrash around and talk like Darth Vader while the good old preacher yells and commands devils to come forth.
K. said
(My apologies to everyone else)…..God has a sense of humor!!….A picture jumped into my mind of mixing Holy Water with Robitussin.(Cough Syrup with expectorant) First laugh I had all day. Thank you Kate!!!
Minister Patrick Williams said
Thank you for your kind response. Smile. I was raised in North Carolina. And I too have heard it all. God does not preform hideous acts. Everything He does is good.
I will answer your questions as they are so simple. The only problem is you are viewing everything through the eyes of someone who appears to be upset with God. Ask God to help you and show himself that you may have understanding.
Grave mentioned as sheoul is only the beginning of a persons journey when he departs this world. The grave is the place we all will go to; that is our bodies. From there the soul that has not received Christ as Lord is held in a spiritual, grave. Much like emprisonment. He is very much aware of his surroundings but can not leave this place. There he will remain until God judges the souls that have rejected Him.
Jesus said we should fear God, who can cast both soul and body into hells fire.
Satan appeared as an angel of light to Adam and Eve. The serpent did not appear threathening, but was something the two were accustom to seeing in the garden. Wow! You didn’t see any of this because you don’t have the Spirit of God in you. He is the one who teaches all men the word of God. Without it we are carnal minded. Unable to see spiritual things. Ever learning but never changing. You trust in your senses, your mind and reasoning, and not in the Spirit of God whom you appear to have rejected.
When Satan appeared before God with the sons of God (angels), he had to appear with the likeness he has. You see, he can’t appear like an angel of light or some harmless creature when coming before the creator. All knowing God, who created him knows who he is and what he looks like. He would be wasting his time.
So why was the serpent punished with eat the dust of the ground.? This term means to crawl upon the ground. It does not mean to literally eat. It means to be close enough to the ground that it would be able to smell and taste the dust with its tongue, which it uses to filter the air and for sensing prey. Stop looking through your eyes and ask God to help you to see His spiritual side, that you may believe.
Adam and Eve’s punishment was for their sin. Why would God punish man today? When they sinned, it infected their offspring. Just like a sickness passed on from one generation to the next. God warded man about this sickness, telling his not to eat of the fruit.
God also taught them how they could be forgiven by instituting the sin offering. God took an animal, and made skins for them to wear, and showed them how they could be forgiven.
So even though they sinned, God forgave them when they offered up the blood. God required a life to take their place; an animal.
This is why Jesus was born into the world. To offer up his life as a blood offering. So God is not mad at the world nor man. He loves man. But will not allow man to come before him with sin in him. We get rid of sin by simply receiving the offering of Christs body, which he made to the Lord God. This does not sound like a God who hates and wants to punish, but His love for man caused Him to allow His son to die. Now thats love!
I grew up in proverty on the edge of a corner field. The house I lived in had four rooms. Six children slept in one bed and there was no ceiling so the cold air came straight through.
My father beat me so very bad. I hated life and asked God why He did this to me?
Why would He let me grow up with a father like that who beat me, and starved me. My only meal was when I went to school. This is no lie. I don’t have a reason too lie. I was angry at God. He did this to me.
Then He showed up one day and revealed himself to me. He showed me it wasn’t Him who did this. But sin in man. Sin in and upon a man caused this. My father didn’t have to do these things. My father could have come to the Lord and allowed him to change the hate in his heart, but he didn’t. So, without focusing on the physical but the spiritual, God showed me that sin and hate in the heart cause war, proverty, hate, abortion sexual molestation and anything that is not of God.
And who feeds this? Not God! But an unseen spirit being who is determined to bring pain to man, who replaced him as the leaders of worship and praise. He lost his job and anointing, so he hates man. I am very aware of what the bible reads. I have an education and I’m a bible school graudate, but most of all I live it, or I would not be a Christian. The title without living the life, would make me a lair.
Kate said
Patrick, I have much to say, but it will be sometime tomorrow before I can reply. I want plenty of time to do justice to you and your post. I insulted you on this site and this is where I will apologize. You are one of the sincere people. Even though we are on opposite sides, I think in our own ways we both love truth. Kate
Eden Hadassah said
Minister,
I love your heart. My mother was an unfit mother. Everything started out ok, but then she became cruel to my dad, pushing him away. When I was two, he left and went back east. From there my mother got into drugs, and married a most cruel man. He beat my mother daily and would put me in front of her to shield her from his blows. I was beaten often, and things were done to me that I won’t go into detail about. My dad would send money and gifts to me, but I never would recieve them. She would sell the things he sent to me and buy drugs. We lived in the slums of California, and my dad took my sister and I away from that life when I was nine. I have been with him ever since. I have not seen my mother in thirty years, although I get reports every now and again about her. She is still a junky and prostitute, and has never seen her grand children or her great grand child. Someday I hope to see her again. I didn’t have the greatest life either. As a child, I didn’t ask God why he let my mother let her husband hurt me. Mine was a world of just me and him. I have a sister and my brother was born through the marriage of my stepfather. She would bring home half eatin single meal, and put it on the table, and tell me that my sister and brother are younger, so they should eat first. I usually didn’t get any. I didn’t have the pleasure of going to school all the time, because I was unpresentable when I showed up. Lice, no shoes on my feet, and clothes that were dirty and too tight. Yet some how I passed through the system all the way to the third grade, when my dad took me. He got tudors for me, and helped me to catch up. (didn’t help my spelling ability! lol) Back to the story…so I would be hungry, but not too far from the apartment we lived in there was a fig grove. I didn’t know what they were at the time, but they were these purple fruits, with a pink inside that was so sweet and filling, and that is what I would eat every day until they were all harvested. I think figs will always be my favorate fruits, because everytime I eat them, I think about how delicious they were and how beautiful the grove was. When I wasn’t at home alone with my sister and brother (I had to care for them), we were at my grandmother’s house. I loved her so much. She would feed me and bathe me and my siblings and actually talk to us. Her gentleness and love always comforted us. She taught me about God and about loving others. I was heart broken when I didn’t see her anymore. My dad won custody of us, and while he was a great dad, I was forced to endure the cruelty of his mother, my other grandmother. It got reversed. The woman taunted me from the time I was nine until she died a few years ago. It is so strange how life turns out. But in all of it, I didn’t question the goodness of God. My grandmother taught me the love of our God, of his goodness and mercy. But Yeshua, I didn’t know. I hated every bible thumping preacher that would come and ask if I was born again. They weren’t interested in knowing me, or in my life. They would just talk at me. I rejected the thought of what they thought was God. They would tell me that I would go to heaven if I just said that I believed in Jesus. All my life I believed in God, and I would pray often, “show me heaven”, and what it is like there. One night,when I was eleven, I had a dream I was there, by this tree, and this river flowed under the tree. I was standing on a big rock, looking at all the fruit on the tree, and the sparkling water that would go under the tree. The tree was very large, and it had grown roots on both sides of the river, so it looked like it just floated on the water…then I was looking at my body sleeping and my dog who at the time used to hog the bed, I got scared and I woke up. Maybe he showed me heaven. If he did, then these preachers never saw what I saw as a child. But then at nineteen, after my daughter was born, God spoke to me, and told me of His Son, Jesus the Messiah. It wasn’t in some church, or a turn or burn sermon, but he came to me, and he spoke to me. From that time on, I have known his Son, Yeshua/Jesus and I walk with him daily. He is my friend and my constant companion. He has shown me his love and his mercy. His Spirit moves through me, and allows me to see things as he sees them. He has given me a great love for his creation, and I stand in awe of all that he has created. There truly is none greater than He. My Beautiful Lord, who is worthy of all my praise.
Kate said
Minister Patrick, please accept my apology for the rude and unkind comments. That was very wrong of me and I deeply regret it. I can see you are a very kind and sincere man. You have a very good spirit. I was not raised in such a horrible environment, but I worked in a school for several years and came to know many children who have similar stories. I also worked for 10 years in a medical office and I saw more abused children than my heart could stand. Seeing children like that and hearing these stories is one reason I cannot accept the OT god. If there were no other reasons (but there are many) to reject him, those verses where it is written he commanded the enslavement, murder and rape of children will forever be enough reason for me. There surely has to be a Creator of this vast universe but I will never believe he is the author of the bible. I am enclosing an article I have had on my computer for awhile and really don’t remember where I found it, but it is very good. I agree 100% with what it says. Please take the time when you can and read it.
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Monotheism’s dirty little secret is that it didn’t appear suddenly out of thin air, the illumination of some theological prodigy like a Noah, Abraham or Moses. It wasn’t a thunderbolt revelation from on high, nor was it the original belief system passed on from Adam and Eve, preserved down through the ages by a faithful few.
Monotheism (a belief in one God) gradually evolved out of polytheism (a belief in many gods) through a process called henotheism (the elevation of one tribal god out of an existing pantheon of gods). Although much of the evidence has been covered over by the sands of time and by careful editing of the scriptures, there are still indications that Judeo-Christian-Islamic monotheism, the dominant form on the planet, actually evolved from Canaanite mythology.
Ironically, one of the verses used to prop up a belief in the trinity (a very un-monotheistic concept) is the first clue to solving this mystery. Genesis 1:26 says “Then God said, “Let Us make man in our image”. I remember being confused about why God was talking to himself and wondered why he referred to himself in the plural. “Why the trinity of course!” My pastor explained that there were different names for God – sometimes he was called Yahweh or Jehovah and at other times he was called El or Elohim and that although Elohim was the plural form of El, for some inexplicable reason it never connotated more than one god (but hinted at the trinity). That’s just the way it was.
What my pastor never bothered to tell me was that in Canaanite mythology the chief god was named El. This El happened to have seventy sons called the Elohim, a virtual pantheon of gods which included figures such as Baal, Dagon and Ashtoreth, as well as their royal consorts like Astarte – all well known figures from the Old Testament. What a coincidence!
One of the Elohim was Yah (in some versions he was known as Yam), the god of the sea and arch-enemy of Baal the sky and storm god who supplied the rain. Alas we will never know for sure if it was Yah who developed into the biblical Yahweh, but according to the bible Yahweh did receive Israel as an inheritance from his father El.
“When the Most High (El-Elyon) gave the nations their inheritance, when he divided all mankind, he set up boundaries for the peoples according to the number of the sons of Israel (Elohim- sons of El). For the LORD’s (Yahweh’s) portion is his people, Jacob his allotted inheritance”. – Deuteronomy 32:8-9
Don’t you just love how the bible translators rendered Elohim as “sons of Israel”. Nice cover-up! The verse actually refers to the tradition that each of the Elohim were placed in charge of a different nation. Israel belonged to Yahweh, who became their chief god out of the pantheon (henotheism). Over time the cult of Yahweh gained political power and began to ban the worship of other gods. A lot of the stories in the Old Testament can be seen as the struggle between Yahweh’s followers and those of his rival Elohim. As the old gods disappeared or were subsumed into Yahweh the concept of monotheism was born, the old gods rendered into false idols of wood or stone.
The old gods of the Canaanite pantheon are dead and gone, but the echoes of their existence still linger in the pages of the bible. Even the infamous Ten Commandments contain the mysterious decree of “Thou shalt have no other gods before me”. A ridiculous command if monotheism is true. What other gods are there?
Minister Patrick Williams said
Kate:
I couldn’t be angry at anything you’ve said. God has changed my heart, and I love instead of hate. This is what I feel for you and others, whether you’re a born again Christian or not. The fact that you are here means you are seeking answers. Smile.
He gives us His heart. And we reflect who He is. The pain we see in this world is the result of hearts that have not been changed.
I see some great hurt and compassion in you. You have a love for those who’ve been hurt and abrused. Thats a good thing.
This same love you can have for Jesus, you need only ask Him to show you how to serve, and reveal who He is to you. Then you will know if He is the God of the bible. It’s that simple. No magic formual, no tricks. I had to do it too. So did everyone here.
I remember when I was 14. My father asked me to come outside and help him work on the roof.
It was about ten degrees outside and I had just stepped out of the shower. I told my sister to tell dad I would be right out. A person can died if he or she does not put on clothing in that type of weather.
When I got outside my father was missing. I began look around for him. Suddenly the door opened and I could see he had a pistol in his hand.
I ran and hid. He looked for me for some time, thinking I had disrespected him by not coming when he called. It took years for me to forgive him.
God’s love erased all of the hate, and brought me into a relationship with him. He is my real father. The man that birth me was a donor. This change was not done with counseling, but by God’s Spirit. I asked him to help me, and He did.
Minister Patrick Williams said
Eden:
You’ve been through alot. God has done a great work in your life. I thought for years I was the only one going through this kind of hurt. I didn’t know there were others enduring even greater hardships then myself, until I was in my late teens.
But isn’t God good. We would not be here if it weren’t for the grace of God.
My grandmother use to walk about a mile to bring us the scrapes she was going to give to her hogs. Some of it was weeks old, but when you stomach is empty, you eat and think nothing of it. I know you understand where I’m coming from.
Nevertheless, I thank God for the hard times, it caused me to cry out to Him for help, and He reached down and took my hand.
Kate said
Thanks Patrick. I am going to open a yahoo360 page and will let you know the link when I get it ready. This is not the place for me. I know now I made a huge mistake coming here. If the day ever comes when all of us can sit and talk, no matter what we believe, that may be the start of what the Creator really wants from us. Maybe if we could do that and put together all we know, we might come closer to the whole truth. When I read stories of your life and the life Eden had, it just tears me up. I never knew just how many of those things were real until I saw them for myself. It changed me forever. We don’t have to agree on everything to love one another. We are all human. I will send you a link soon. Thank you for being so kind.
Lee said
It seems somewhat that this site is used alot for persons to post their own selfish opinions as opposed to what the bible says. Posts that are obviously written in anger should be scrutinized and removed. They only do more damage than good. Whatever cannot be posted in love and respect for others opinion should not be allowed to stay on this site. No one person is an authority on any subject matter. As a new comer it is a big turnoff. I commend Patrick for not retaliating to certain remarks in a rude way…way to go!. For the sake of the life & integrity of this site, and for the glory of God – please consider either removing or ignoring those who do not flow in the spirit of this project.
Charles D. said
Lee
Have you ever considered starting your own site. Maybe then you could sensor however you wanted. You would attract only those willing to march lock-step with your beliefs, but, you would have what you’re advocating.
Charles
CAROL IKHINE said
I HAVE BEEN TORMENTED FOR OVER 10 YEARS NOW BY WITCHCRAFT DEMON. MEANING I WAS INITIATED INTO IT BUT I HAVE DONE EVERYTHING FROM DELIVERANCE, FASTING AND PRAYERS TO NO AVAIL. CAN’T GOD DELIVER AGAIN? AT TIMES I FEEL LIKE TAKING MY LIFE WHEN I SEE OR DREAM OF THE EVIL THINGS THAT PEOPLE DO. I USED TO BE A VERY GOOD CHRISTIAN PREACHING AND TEACHING PEOPLE OF THE GOODNESS OF GOD BUT I CANNOT DO THAT NOW. I WOULD RATHER STAY ALONE BECAUSE THE DEMONS ARE ATTACKING ME OPENING BECAUSE A DENIAL BEING SATAN’S FOLLOWER IN THEIR MEETING. WHO CAN DELIVER ME? I DONT EVER WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH SATAN AND HIS DEMON.
Devon said
Lord Jesus, please help our friend Carol Ikhine in whatever she needs to be free!!!
Minister Patrick Williams said
Carol
The demons are attacking you to draw you away from people and God. They hate the fact that you turned to Jesus and want you back. They do this by attacking your mind and making you want to avoid people so they can get you by yourself and make you want to take your life because nothing is going right and you feel you’d be better off bead. But this is a lie.
The next thing they do is seperate you from those who come help you the most, other christians. Find a spirit filled church. By that I mean that believes in the blood of Jesus and accept the word and power of God. Stay away from weak churches that only preach on blessings. Afer 20 years in ministry I have never seen anyone delivered through wealth and blessings.
Ask the pasteor or minister, who should be one who has bealdt with deliverance, and have them lay hands on you in the name of Jesus.
In a lot cases, deliverance comes through the laying on of hands.
Minister Patrick Williams said
Don’t believe thedevil when they say it won’t work. Its to simple. But thats the beauty of God, the simple things confound the wise.
You can email my wife and I for prayer at
Breadandwineministries.com
Job said
Minister Patrick Williams:
Thank you sir.
Terry said
My heart weeps for people like Kate. I’ve been tormented most my life by demons. It started when I was a small child. My Mom’s side of the family are Mormons, and my dad’s family are “counterfeit Christians”. When I was a child, I witnessed my mom moving things with her mind. She,as a teen-ager, played with widgi boards, and told me many stories of evil spirits, doing all sorts of unnatural acts. Some time, when I was in grade school, I would go into the bathroom at home, and the door would start shaking and the door knob would turn. I could hear my mom and dad through the walls. They were in the living room, which was in the other part of the house. I would start praying for Jesus to help me. The demonic activity would stop. I also had angels around me. I know this because I seen, spoke and touched one. This angel manifested itself as my mother. It wasn’t my mother. I felt safe when she was their, until I looked at her and could tell it wasn’t my mother. Anyway, I went to the mormon church until I was in my early 20’s. I always felt their was something wrong in that church. I dont have the time to explain that now. Anyway, many years later, when I lost my job, and everything seemed to come to an end. I just had bought a new home, my wife just had our baby, and here I was losing my job. I was brought to my knees, weeping and praying to God. I asked God to help me, for no one else would. I repented for a few hours or so. While I was trying to go to sleep, I heard the worst foul language I’ve ever heard, and the anger of this demon was heard. This demon came out of me. I seen it. It looked like a black cloud of smoke leaving my chest. God delivered me from this demon, which I had known as me. I had the foulest mouth and feelings of hate and revenge. God had delivered me from me. My life changed then and it will never be the same. I started going to a non-denominational church, and because Jesus saved me, the demons came to torment. I had a problem with fear, because of all the things that happened to me as a child. This opened the door to the demons, because fear is a lack of faith. I once was laying on the couch, and I was trying to go to sleep. I then felt a breath on my ear, and a voice said “I’m going to make sure you die”. I quickly turned over and looked at it as it ran around the corner. I scared it, because it didnt know I was aware of it’s presence. Instead of standing up and casting it away in the name of Jesus Christ, I quickly fell to my knees, and asked Jesus to save me. This did work, but I was fearful, for I never had a demon speak to me before that time. I have seen a lot. I wish God would reveal the spirit world to all, but he doesn’t. By the way, I do not drink, smoke, or partake of any medications. I do take allergy meds. God does deliver. He doesnt need anyone to work through, but he delivers people in public for his glory. May all the glory go to God, who saved us from our flesh. I assure everyone that reads this, that demons are real. They do affect your life. God has protection around us all, or we’d all be dead. God does let certain things happen to us, and only he knows why. His will is perfect and his timing is perfect. Don’t be as the Israelites, and forget the miracles that happen every day. God bless you all.
Mr Ghostbuster said
It is nice that you want to cast out demons so what is realy needed.
1 the gift of decerment. It is a gift not something you work for
2 Remember you in war we all ar at war
3 God to do it threw us.
Now demonology is a minstry that if your not called and anoted by God don’t go I am a demonologist
mindy said
I’ve seen babes in Christ that tasted mercy in the mist of calamity as they repented and cried out to the Lord Jesus. Sometimes they don’t press in to the word but build a belief system on thier experience, and go against sound doctrine in ignorance. I would like to encourage every one to read the bible and study it for yourselves.
But without faith it is impossible to please God, and it is impossible to please God in the flesh. So, what is hindering our faith against these issues of these reoccurring demons? Jesus has given us the power and authority
even to cast out devils, even some with fasting and prayer. But I have found my biggest setback was lack of faith.
I was fighting condemnation because my child was rebellious and I felt like I was a bad mother, especially when he got me upset. The more I would press in the more bad his attacks would become. I had to come against a spirit in him. But, my friends before this the Lord gave me a revelation about returning to my first love and doing my first works over. My first works were done by faith, and under grace. Praise God I have been around the world in spiritual battles and I I have found myself back here nestled under the arms of my first love, able to sit under his wings of grace under every circumstance. That’s faith! There is a rest! Recieve his word, believe he loves you, believe when you ask for forgiveness that you are forgiven. Know that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him! Jesus came to set captivity captive! He never said no.
I never read anything in the Bible against going to the doctor, and yes I will go to the doctor but yes I have recieved several miracles of healings. God healed a hole in my eardrum, and I’ve got witnesses to all of these things. God has healed my back problems, all at once in a prayer service. God has healed my daughter’s eyes from a condition the doctor said was permenant and uncurable. God healed my son many times. I’ve seen God heal many times.
But I’ve never seen God condemn anyone for going to the doctor.
Every english word in the bible means something different in greek, that is why it was translated.
mindy said
ABOUT THE SERPENT IN THE GARDEN:
The serpent represented Satan but the dust of the earth represented human beings because we were formed
out of the dust and we will return to dust. That is why Satan entices us to sin, he feeds off of our sin.
I tell you the truth it almost seems as though these spirits will come at you as something small but once you begin giving in to them, the urges and desire, the pull grows stronger. That’s what will happen when you feed something though, it will become a strong hold. If you start telling little white lies, you’ll began getting tempted to tell greater lies and if you give into it ect.. The same thing with lust, it starts off with a couple dirty thoughts
but when you don’t cast down those vain imaginations it becomes greater, it may lead to porn or adultery. People we really have to guard our spirits. Love yall!
Brian said
well..i just wanted to say that my church expels demons and it looks kinda simple all you have to do is have faith and believe in god..then just expel the demon in his name and the person will manifest then he or she will be delivered from the demon -Brian 14 years old- =D
Vicki said
What is wrong with Derek Prince’s teachings on deliverance? I’ve been listening
to his radio podcasts all afternoon, and it seemed much more balanced & biblical than
what I’ve heard so far. The only thing that surprised me is that he believes that unless we’ve
been water baptized, the unclean spirits still have access to us (or something to that effect). That concerns me, because I was only sprinkled in the RC church as a child, and was told later that it wasn’t necessary to be baptized again. What is your take on that?
Thanks!
John Kaniecki said
Vicki,
Hi hope you are well.
Examine Romans 6. Baptism is a burial thus one must get immersed in water. After you look at this scripture I wil show your others pertainin to baptism.
I would urge you to get baptized by immersion.
Love,
John
Ivan said
Hi,
The Holy Spirit put it on my heart to fast about three years ago shortly sfter being baptized for the forgiveness of my sins. Since than eventually I started to realize (the more I fasted)that I had a grand amount of powerfull rage inside of me that appeared sub-human (demonic). Shortly afterwards at the peak of my fast my eyes flipped over in the mirror and I saw another pair of eyes (a demon). Shortly afterwards I got ready for bed and the Holy Ghost started praying inside me to my ammazment and I started crying out of nowhere. After that I felt the demon leave my body and a barrage of other demons came into the room and started attacking my mind with fearful images. I prayed the whole night until the sun came up and they left me alone. The whole experience was amazing. We truely do not battle with flesh and blood but with evil in the heavenly realms. After that my eyes were opened and I could start seeing demons in other peoples eyes and ghosts. Then I realized one of my gifts is discerning of spirits. I saw a grinning demon in a woman at my church with seizures and I also saw 7 demons in a crippled woman. All of this was so shocking I can’t even put all of it into words. Unfortunatly I told my parents about it and they had people from a mental hospital arrest me and put me into the nut house where I got to preach the gospel and play ping pong everyday. They forced me to take medication and they eventually let me out after realizing I wasn’t insane. Now I will keep what the Spirit shows me to myself and people at church I can trust. Because of my own sin I am now re-possessed at the moment and dealing with it. The devil mainly assaults me with temptations of rage/sexual thoughts/temptations to drink too much. The Lord has put it on my heart to fast again and I am on my third day of it. The combination of fasting/praying/faith/being righteous/obeying the word will help you get where you need to be although every persons experience is different. Fasting can suck at first if your new to it but after doing it for a while you can become more tuned into the Spirit. I have fasted for the last three days and I am not hungry at all because God is stilling my appetite. Consuming healthy liquids can help with this. Organic milk/juice/water can help with this. Man does not live on bread alone!!! If you think I’m making all this up for kicks re=read the gospels and you’ll find a part where Jesus’ disciples couldn’t cast out demons because of lack of faith & (that particular demon could only be cast out by prayer and fasting). May the Lord be with you all so you can fight the good fight. Beware who you talk to about this or you may get thrown in a mental hospital. They will never have enough medication for me to make me change my mind about what I saw in the past and what I’ll see in the future. The devil is real and so is God. Keep fighting brothers and sisters. Remember that Jesus is stronger than all demons combined and then some so keep the faith. If we suffer with him were gonna reign with him. Nothing has seized you except that which is common to man.
Peace
Max said
TO DANIELLE CHURCH AND ANYONE ELSE WITH SIMILAR CLAIMS. YOU
ARE CREATING THINGS IN YOUR FEARS IN YOUR MIND WHICH ARE NOT ACTUALLY HAPPENING TO YOU IN REALITY.
If you are saved there is absolutely no way you can be possessed by a demon. Demons bring
ideas into your mind while you are awake or while you are dreaming but THEY CAN’T MOLEST
YOUR BODY SEXUALLY, you have created the idea of this happening to you when it really has
not because you are actually believing those ideas coming into your mind from them.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ACCEPT THESE IDEAS THAT COME INTO YOUR MIND. You are to oppose demonic
ideas by learning over time to NOT ARGUE within yourself AT ALL with these accusatory
and tormenting thoughts and ideas. SILENCE YOUR MIND and REFUSE to accept these lies anymore
as being true, because THEY ARE NOT TRUE, such things are NOT happening to, but you can create
things in your own mind yourself if you delude yourself deep enough.
PUT YOUR MIND ON STUDYING THE BIBLE EITHER BY AUDIO RECORDINGS OR BY READING.
audio-bible.org
blueletterbible.org
Another thing is when you have a dream in your mind you feel, smell, see, hear but THEY
ARE ALL CREATED BY YOU IN YOUR MIND, they are not actually happening to you. You can feel
s_xual things in dreams happening to you, that does NOT mean they are actually occurring in reality.
Learn over time to distinguish what is real and what is created in your own mind out of fears and
giving heed to the tormenting thoughts and ideas of demons who are just liars who like
to bother you if you give them space in your thoughts. BUT YOU HAVE POWER OVER YOUR OWN
MIND AS A BELIEVER.
GOD HAS NOT GIVEN YOU THE HOLY SPIRIT TO GUIDE YOU INTO FEARS, BUT HE HAS SENT THE HOLY
SPIRIT TO BE WITH YOU TO GUIDE YOU INTO HAVING A SOUND MIND AND KNOWING THE POWER OF CHRIST
THROUGH HIS GOSPEL.
I also have an idea that you are probably reading, watching or listening to other worldly
outlets which are bringing back these kinds of ideas into your mind, get rid of those things
as well.
Proper nutrition can also help your mind.
I am not even getting into the concept if you are taking any kind of mind altering drugs, hopefully
you are not on any type of psycotic drugs as such things will deepen yourself into being able
to be deluded as anyone who is put on certain types of mind altering drugs is more open to
going along with something “suggested” to them then people who are not intoxicated.
Stay away from Pentecostal churches and all those sorts of new age types of delusionary
gospels and those who believe in such twisted viewpoints of Biblical interpretation
or they may actually be used to keep you in believing these delusions. Find a solid Bible
based church like a freewill baptist church or otherwise and make friends with the pastor
and people there you can trust who can be there for you when you feel afraid and need
someone to comfort you through the tormentive process.
Remember if you are a true believer what you said was a deception sugggested to you
by someone or in your thoughts, you do NOT need to accept it as true even if you experienced
something in a dream or a daydream that you felt in your body. Your mind creates all kinds
of things in dreams or semi dream states which are not real, and if you combine believing those
fake dream experiences were real and add to that false doctrines of how you see the experiences,
then you will continue to allow yourself to be deluded in these lies further.
YOU DO NOT NEED ANY OF THIS IN YOUR LIFE. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LEARN TO REJECT IT IN THE NAME
OF JESUS AND NOT ARGUE WITH IT IN YOUR MIND ANYMORE. SILENCE YOUR MIND AND START BACK INTO
A NEW LIFE AGAIN. GO OUT INTO THE WORLD, DO THINGS, EXERCISE, MAKE FRIENDS, VOLUNTEER TO HELP
OTHERS, PLAY SPORTS, KEEP YOUR MIND OFF OF DELUSIONS AND THOUGHTS FROM THE PAST.
NOW GO AND DO.
Reverend Patrick Williams said
Ivan
Because of my own sin I am now re-possessed at the moment and dealing with it.
You are not repossessed. You are being opressed. The enemy is making you think he dwells in you but he actually has a foothold in the mind which is where we fight the fight of faith.
Do not listen to him. It all a trick o keep you from moving forward. All that is needed is to ask God for giveness and move forward trusting Hikm, the bible saids resist him a he (will) flee. The word (will) is a guaratee may to the believer.
God bless.
P.S. Max is right. You are to oppose the devil and his thoughts brings every thought under subjection to the Holy Spirit’s leading.
Reverend Patrick Williams said
forgive my spelling please.
David L. Williams said
I too believed that a demon and the Holy Spirit could not inhabit a born again Christian….until God showed me my calling. I now see that the churches have missed the truth for ages, and even help the devil in his deceptive wiles. One taught as I had been originally can easily doubt and make fun of those who have experienced casting out demons. Such as telling us we see demons behind every bush, etc;
The church I attended when God showed me my calling was active in casting out demons, and God put me in the deliverance ministry there. But as time went on, this church was being harrassed by other churches and radio ministries for our teachings. But this church had a revival going on while teaching about demons, and stood fast….for a while.
When another pastor took over, he began backing off the teachings, due to the outside pressure. The church went into immediate decline. Where before, it was hard to find a seat in the nearly 3,000 seat sanctuary, it dropped to a few hundred attending. Where before, people came from all over the world to attend spiritual warfare conferences, overflowing the sanctuary into other rooms with TVs, now few come from even close by to the milque-toast conferences.
Our experiences on the deliverance teams showed us that even Christians, ones who were faithful in all their ways, often had demons. If those doubters had been present during those sessions, they would never have spoken a word against demons in Christians. …DavWms
Reverend Patrick Williams said
Oppression often appears the same as total possession. The enemy has made a home in a part of the body or soul (or mind)not spirit, of a man or woman who willfully, or unwillfully have given over to lust, sexual sin, drugs etc. The enemy in not in the spirit man where the Holy Spirit comes to dwell when we receive Jesus, but attached to the soulish parts and casting him out is the same as casting him out of someone who has never acceptance the Holy Spirit. He will still say he has premission to be there because the Christian may have fallen into deep unrepentant sin, yet the Holy Spirit still is within. Our sins gives him premission.
This is why some can be such loving Christians and God still use them mighty, yet there is a evil presence pulling at them from within that must be dwelt with.
David L. Williams said
Perhaps a couple of examples of Christians who came for help for long ongoing problems would be helpful here. One was an elderly widow, a wonderful pillar for Christ in our church. She had even once been on this same deliverance ministry team. We asked her what the problem was, and she explained she had an inordinate fear at home alone at night. She knew this fear was not proper, and wanted rid of it. Know that when we did deliverance, the Holy Spirit atmosphere was felt.
As she finished explaining her fear, she slid off her chair onto the floor. There, she slithered around, hissing like a snake. We quickly cast that demon out of her, and she was amazed. She said, “I have cast many demons out of others, and now I find I had one too.” But that was a simple and almost harmless case, which the next example was not.
We had a spiritual warfare conference, and the invitation was out for ministry to people who had long ongoing problems in their walk with Jesus. A pastor’s wife from an out of state Spirit-filled church asked for help to stop the weird supernatural things going on in her home. As she explained the problem, she mentioned she also often gets horrible headaches, and she had one now.
I asked her if the headaches ever moved from place to place in her head. She said they did. (Moving pain is a manifestation, and we never went after demons unless they manifested first.) I told her to tell us if it moved during our session. Shortly after, she told us it moved, and I ordered the demon to manifest. It did, and her face contorted and her voice took on a hateful tone.
Knowing the demon had to answer the truth to our questions in the Presence of the Holy Spirit, I asked the demon’s name. It said, “Deceit!” I asked it how it got in. It told us he convinced her to cheat on a test in grammar school, and she did. It then told her he would always help her look smart. He obviously knew her inferior feelings about knowledge. She agreed to this, and lived with that voice giving her answers ever since, even after she got saved and Spirit-filled.
We brought the lady back to herself and told her what the demon had told us. She agreed it was accurate. We told her she didn’t need the demon to help her look smart, that she was already smart. She disagreed, and we called the demon forth again and tried to cast it out. No success, as she wanted it there. She told us she needed to look smart for all the congregation at her church.
This went on for a long time, back and forth between her and the demon. We called in our ministry leader, who also could not cast the demon out. He told us that if she did not want it out, we could not cast it out. We gave up. (Yes, I know there must be a way to get around that, but to this day, I have not found it.)
Like I said in the previous post, if the non-believers about demons in Christians saw what we saw in MANY cases, they would have no doubt that these were Spirit-filled people with demons in them, too. …DavWms
Reverend Patrick Williams said
Everything thing you stated is corrected. and I thank God for you. I’m mirely saying demons attach themselves to the soul releam when a person becomes a believer. He has no access to the spirit of that person.
You said:
I asked her if the headaches ever moved from place to place in her head. She said they did. (Moving pain is a manifestation, and we never went after demons unless they manifested first.)
Notice the pain moves around within the realm body and soul, not spirit because this is the Holy Spirit abode.
I thank God for you and encourage you to continue in God’s will.
David L. Williams said
Yes, Patrick, I agree that our spirit is safe thanx to Jesus’ sacrifice. I picture our soul like a round hollow ball in our lower chest. Inside it are 3 smaller balls. One is our emotions, another is our mind, (intellect) and the 3rd is our will, which puts the decisions of the other two to work. In the mix between them is our spirit, which was designed to bring wisdom.
I look at demonization like this: When we believe (agree with) the Gospel, Jesus’ Spirit enters us. Likewise, when we believe (agree with) a demon, he enters us.
Most of that happens when we are kids, and have no wisdom. We forget how traumatic our childhood hurts were. Back then when we did not get our way, we brooded about it. This was the opportunity for demons to grab onto.
Most seem unaware that demons have still small voices, just as God does. Still small voices usually come as thoughts, and our own mind forms them into words. So we think those were our own thoughts. Demons were glad to tell us kids how unworthy we were, to put feelings of rejection in us. Once that was established, they sought to remedy that hurt by giving any of many ways to combat the pain. Anger, jealousy, self-pity, and on and on.
This formed our personality as we learned to avoid feelings of shame for how bad we think we are. Later, we don’t even know we agreed with demons with those traits for names, and let them in. They stay hidden for the most part, only manifesting when stress allows them to. And we don’t know our traits are from demons. We call it the “flesh.”
When we get Spirit-filled, we have the opportunity to let God expose these demon traits and replace them with wisdom. But most don’t know that is the purpose, and instead play with their giftings. I think the Bride of Christ will figure this out before the end, and the devil’s lies to Eve in the Garden will rebound on him.
nuff for now. DavWms
Reverend Patrick Williams said
Amen. Its good to have conversation with you concerning the truth. God bless.
David L. Williams said
It’s my pleasure, Patrick. It is almost impossible to find others to discuss this subject with. Thank God for this forum and its moderators.
Love, DavWms
Kyle said
How about real demons. If you have a good two hours watch ALL the vids and begin to recognize that the end time deception is bigger than you think.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=chuck+missler+nephilim&sitesearch=#
Kyle
Kyle said
The other site has each set of clips kind of all over the place. This site actually puts them in order. Also, remember to watch ALL of the videos before you start calling me a kook.
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/3246/Chuck_Missler___Return_of_the_Nephilim_Part_1of12/
Kyle
Reverend Patrick Williams said
Kyle
No one will call you a kook thats knows these are spirits causing great signs and wonders (ufo’s). In 1990 I studied this with other ministers and we discussed fallen angels and their relationship to the gaints and demons today. This was also a belief of the earth church but was silented under the Catholic church.
Due partly to their teaching on sex. They frowned on this teaching because how can we they tell men to not have sex when angels fell doing the same.
You are right on target.
David L. Williams said
Thanx, Kyle. I don’t have DSL yet, so I cannot watch the videos. But Chuck Missler is a local Bible teacher here in S. Calif., and I get to hear much of his teachings on the radio.
When Jesus told us there would be signs in the end of days,He mentioned one of them would be signs in the skys. UFOs are signs in the skys.
DavWms
Kyle said
Dave, Rev Pat,
Thanks guys. I really appreciate your responses. Often times it is hard to bring this issue up because many people for some reason just don’t want to go there. This really baffles me because it would seem that Christians would really want to think about just WHAT deception could be SO great to deceive the people to such an extent that they would universally coalesce around a single individual (Antichrist). In fact, the startling truth behind the UFOs is quite eye opening. The first thing that is quite telling is the fact that the Alien Grays always leave the victims messages such as, “we are your progenitors” and “We are here to save mankind”. Also, crop circles oftentimes contain occult symbols. Another thing is that mediums and psychics often describe meeting these Grays while in their trances. Lastly, it is well established that people who have been tormented by these things and who were Christians when they rebuked them in the mighty name of Jesus they fled. In short, after much study on the matter I have come to two conclusions.
A: These are demonic entities which appear as Aliens to fit our current culture. In other words, in previous times say 1800s and earlier prior to our technology boom demons would appear as pixies, elves, and gnomes which were common folklore during that day. Likewise they would appear as dragons and beasts prior to that time during the middle ages because of the cultural norms during that day. In essence demons merely manifest themselves relative to the culture and time all with the intent of deception.
B: These Aliens (Demons) are waiting for the ideal moment in history when the world is in utter chaos up to and including a nuclear exchange and a global depression where by they appear at just the right time to save us from ourselves thus the “great deception”. They in essence would refute all religious dominance, make mankind feel part of something bigger, and would bring the world in a common agreement.
Kyle
P.S. Dave find someone with DSL or higher and watch these vids. A real eye opener.
Kyle said
Dave, Rev Pat,
Let me give you my own testimony. I grew up Roman Catholic. During my time as a child I really wanted to have a personal relationship with “God” if you will. I knew nothing about him other than what I was taught in the Catholic Church which was limited and often times errant. However, by God’s grace as a teenager I started a job at a fast food joint. It just so happened that a bunch of guys from a Baptist college worked there also during their semester break. I can remember these guys talking about Christ and God and the bible. I was interested because as I stated earlier I really wanted a relationship with God. Needless to say as time went on they went their way back to college and I too went on to work somewhere else. A few years had passed and now I was 19 years old. I was still unsaved but nonetheless my desire to know God was still there. Then IT happened. On one occasion I was driving from my job across an arterial highway which connected one town to another. after crossing the bridge I suddenly felt an IMMENSE feeling of sadness where I began to cry. I felt ashamed and filthy. I started to repent of my sins and ask Jesus to save me. Soon after that I felt a sudden rush enter my body. I could literally feel the whole weight of the world come off my shoulders. I felt truly free. I was forgiven and I knew it. I was born again. The event was so monumental I had to pull off the side of the road just to take it all in. I pulled over, got out of my car, and I fully realized what happened. I was a new creature. I was saved, sanctified and filled. Since then I have NEVER felt anything as intense as the moment I was first saved.
But now to the topic at hand.
I didn’t tell anyone at first, I was just relishing in the moment. I can remember going to bed that night praising God for what he had done. However, satan didn’t like the idea. On that night after I was first saved I can remember my body being in a frozen like state yet I was cognitive of my surroundings (don’t confuse this with common sleep paralysis it was not – read on) I suddenly felt as if my body was being lifted off my bed and I was surrounded by what seemed to be hundreds of voices speaking unintelligibly. I knew it was demonic. However, I immediately rebuked them in the name of Jesus multiple times and I could feel my body lower back down and the voices disappeared. This happened for three consecutive nights in total. Since then I have never had that happen again. I can truly attest to demonic “oppression”.
In some ways this mimics the Alien abductions. People are usually paralyzed yet cognitive. They also are lifted up albeit to a mothership. They also are telepathically spoke to by these beings. Now don’t get me wrong I didn’t see greys nor was I taken somewhere else. However, the parallel between demonic oppression and an Alien abduction were similar.
Kyle
Reverend Patrick Williams said
Kyle
Awesome. Thanks!
David L. Williams said
Kyle, that was interesting, thank you. I knew a gal who had a nite time visitation from “aliens.” That included a saucer shaped ship landing near her home, and the aliens came in and walked around her paralyzed body, making comments about her. Knowing her, I have no reason to doubt her experience.
Back around 1950, we looked up at the contrail behind a B-36 flying over. Small white discs kept darting in and out of the contrail, stopping and going suddenly as if playing.
My personal experiences with demons came mostly in helping others get delivered from them. My older brother, who delved into the mystic as a child lost friends later in life because the friends saw a demon visibly manifest around him.
There is a lot more to be learned about the spiritual world, and I don’t want my eyes to be closed to learning truths. DavWms
Reverend Patrick Williams said
Kyle
They are one in the same but satan tries to give them different meanings. He is a master at turning truth into lies.
All of the strange sightings, alein visits, crop circles are meant to draw men away from God, by using man’s desire to gain knowledge, (knowing good and evil) which fell on him at the fall in the garden. With this knowledge came a strong desire to fill the spiritual void in his life.
So now man is always been drawn to spiritual things, so he will go to examine and find himself in trouble..
Arthur said
The teachings of Derek Prince and others is both troubling and deceptive. I can find no Scriptural support for the claim that Christians can “have” demons and therefore need to have the “expelled.” I have read many books on the subject and find that usually the Bible is being ripped out of context. Scripture taken out of context does not lead to God’s truth, and too many in the “deliverance” ministry seem to forget this.
Vanessa F. said
I think one of the ways to talk to people who don’t believe in GOD, is to talk to them on a science level, did you not know that it is one of man’s proven theories of law, The law of conservation of energy states that, Matter is never destroyed, it can only change it’s form, So when you die you don’t really die, you just die in this form, but you-like matter, you is a form of matter, with your molecules packed really tightly together, You do matter? and like other animals, and creatures, who are also matter,packed tightly together, and whose bodies have a certain defined way of being organized and systemized. So do us human, we rarely walk around on all fours like lions, or tigers, and if we did we would be considered abnormal, compared to the normally defined human. So again, being a science major and also being a christian first has opened up my understanding alot of things, like how demons could exist. I had a car accident last year, before I crashed, a demon flew in front of me, I was startled and then somehow knew some impending danger was about to occur even though I did’nt see it, I knew from the presence of this almost half dead looking creature that flew in front of me, that someone actually did perform some kind of black magic, which involved me seeing it before I crashed. Anyway, GOD saved my life and I enjoy walking closely with him every day,I also see everything alot differently than I did before my car accident so again, My Lord,worked things out for my good, because I am called according to his purpose and because he has wrote his laws upon my heart like he promised and I love him, as a result. It’s all his fault I love him, so much. I’ve also learned to give him all the Glory.
vinnie said
VINNIE
(8oct. 2008 im a son oF GOD, i can t believe how GOD IS showing his GLORY on me.
when i pray for certain people, for instance ministers of GOD: the holy spirit showed
me .a pastor was sitting at the chair,i was behind of him,when i ve touched his back,
he didn t turn around and look who i was,but a the face of an horrible demon looked
at me,at first i was afraid then i thought, it s not my problem. the pastor of our church, through the holy spirit i saw that he was in the air and one arm from above
was pulling him toward the sky and the other arm from underneath was pulling toward
the ground. today we visited a brother from another church, so we prayed,i saw a pitbull on his back with a big collar, the dog was very aggressive. i wunder what is goin on lately,the more i reach for GOD the more i see demons around me. i m not afraid, because im protected from jahveh, alleluja. please explain to me GOD BLESS YUO
Reverend Patrick Williams said
It is called discernment. The gift of discerning spirits is the ability to determine whether or not a message, person, or event is truly from God. Be careful and draw close to God because the enemy will seek to counterfeit this gift. If he does you will find yourself focusing more on the gift then the giver of the gift.
A special warning to you: You must have strong knowledge of the Scriptures to discern the voice of the Holy Spirit. Other spirits can attempt to counterfeit the Holy Spirit–Be sure you are not fooled. A counterfeit spirit will strongly force a statement. It will not have any regard for the laws in the Bible. It does not mention Jesus Christ.
The Gifts of the Holy Spirit should be used in the body of the church. The gifts are to make the church stronger by direct communication through the Holy Spirit. Another word of warning: Many of the gifts of the Holy Spirit can counterfeited by spiritualism. The gift of prophecy and tongues and interpretation of tongues is very different than a channeling experience of a spiritualist. Be sure you are solidly grounded to a church with experienced spiritual leaders. All gifts must be measured for validity by the Bible.
vinnie said
thank you,waiting
vinnie said
hi, it s me vinnie.
thank you for the answer, i ll stay cloSE TO GOD:
in march 30,2008. i had a spettacular vision.
in my sleep ,i had a vision, it was like a movie screen, .
the vision was a real vision,i was on a mountain without green no trees just a big gigantic rock by the color o terracotta,the underground was lighted with a spiritual light, the vision was in a perfect color.
i was in the middle of the mountain watching the big rocks from the peack rolling down,
and before the gigantic rock passed my face transformed itself in a pillar,the caracteristicks of the pillars they were quare,with rounded edges.
ones the first pillar had furrowed the ground, other pillars came along forming
a first row of 30 pillars .suddenly the whole field was occupied from the gigantic pillars, each of them had a design in the middle of it.the last pillar stopped in front of my face , they were 10 feet tall ive looked at it and suddenly got in line with the others . afterward, the debrises from the pillars were falling down in a black see, just like abiss. this is not a film,it s my dream, in fact in the church
they looked at me with envy, .. when i woke up in the next day i was so happy that OOUR GOD CHOOSED ME FOR THIS VISIONN ALLELUJA: THANK YUO:
PS: THE PASTOR DOMINICK SAYS THAT I SHOULD BE A PILLAR OF THE CHURCH: AMEN
PLEASE IF IT HAS ANOTHER MEANING LET ME KNOW: I LOVE JESUS: CIAO FROM STUTTGART
D. Williams said
Hi Vinnie
I’d just like to say the following. When man to given dreams and visions the following must be considered.
A dream needs interpation. This gift is given by the Holy Ghost. Joseph was given this ability, but many don’t have it. A vision however does not need it, because God will show the person He is dealing with what the meaning is.
Question: When you awake did you know the meaning? Was it in your heart already what God was saying to you? If the answer is yes then you do not, and must not seek out others to confirm what He has placed in you. Doing so will give the enemy room to steer you off course.
I pray you will be open to what God has shown you. God bless.
vinnie said
thank you for the great answer.
is it ok if i can keep in contact with you.
PS I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT GOD MENT WITH HIS VISION:IM JUST ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THE GLORY
OF GOD: THANK YOU FROM YOUR BROTHER VINNIE FROM GERMANY STUTTGART:
Kevin said
I’ve just spent hours wading through all of this, including watching that bizarre video. I don’t doubt anyone’s sincerity but for me it just shows the terrible dangers associated with the doctrine of Sola Scriptura.
Surely, it must be obvious to any rational being that any attempt to make a personal investigation of Scripture is just that – Personal. We all bring to the task our own unique set of prejudices, social conditioning, hopes and fears and instead of the Truth end up with distortion, as light passing through a fractured prism.
Why else are there over 33,000 different denominations, all claiming their own unique interpretation of the Word of God as the Truth? God is Absolute, he is not Relative.
vinnie said
hallo my name is vincent from stuttgart germany. im a cristian.
do not fall in the trap of the evil, we can t say my church is better then your church.
or my pastor has more power then yours.. don t let others lay hands on you unless
you know the person. instead worring about casting devils, try to live like our
jesus lived, let your spiritual eyes discern the good and the bad.
when from your mouth comes out words of God, and your soul lives in the darkness ,we have a problem. donate your life to God,and we ll see his glory.
live with a passion of christ and do the things that He tels you to do.
we don t live all in Christ. whatch your finance,give it to the poor.the treasures are full, and the people are lost. Ill pray for the people who are lost in Christ
please jesus take care of them. bless them, wash them with your blood.. thank you my Jesus. danke, thank you. grazie. amen
BEN said
I am from South Africa.45 years aof age and came to the Lord at a school leavers camp back in 1981.At that camp i became born again.My parents told me recently,and i did not knew it then,that on my return from the camp,when i enterd the backdoor of the house my mother said she looked at me,and she saw that i was different.She also told me that she went to my dad and told him that i found the Lord.My dad also told me just recently that when i came out the house,i came to sit next to him without talking to him,but he said he became aware of something , he cannot put a name to it,but he sensed in his spirit the presence of something,but he did not know what,he felt weak and as he want to cry.I now know that it was the presence of God’s spirit in me,that he as a non believer “sensed”.shortly after that say six months,i began backsliding as my church did not teach on the holy spirit and was not pentecostal.I backslided for 22 years and there was not a thing i did not try.About six years ago i came back to the Lord.He accepted me back.that is grace and love as filthy as i was he welcomed me and cleansed me by his holy spirit and the blood of Jesus.I had three habits that still hold me back,smoking,agressiveness,and some private issue.one morning at 1/2 past 1 i left a friend in christs house and on my way back to my house ,i asked God to deliver me from smoking.I had a hard time stopping but would always go back to the shop and buy loose cigarettes.i threw my cigarettes out the window of the car and told God that i give it to Him as a sacrifice.I now know that God does not take such sacrifices,but,God saw my heart and my intention is to have a closer walk with Him and to get rid of sin.Immediately i felt a scratching irritating in my throat and i started couching.Confulsions started in my stomach and a pressure was building up in my head.My eyes started watering very badly and i cough badly.Mukus and slime started filling up in my mouth and i pulled the vechile on the side of the road and spitted out the stuff.This happened a couple of times and it went on for about twenty minutes.Eventually it stopped and I was exhausted,my throat was sore and my stomach muscles was very sore.I wiped the tears from my eyes and said.God,what happened now?and the holy spirit said to me,You asked God to deliver you from smoking and He did.IT is now 5-6 years and i cannot stand the smell of cigarettes.It is an spirit of addiction and it controls your life and tell you when to smoke and not to smoke.
You become grumpy if you cannot smoke.I have been smoking for 22 years and my lungs was also cleansed.I am healhthy and fit.I still can testify about a lot of things but will take up too much space.shalom.Praise God who is able to be in control of everysituation possible and always victorious.Remenber,it is all about your heart for God.God wants your heart and he wants to 100%lives in it by his Holy Spirit.A heart of flesh he gives you and then come to live in it.Glory to Him,my FATHER!!!!
BEN said
I forgot to mention,my whole family are saved,parents,brothers,wife,kids,etc,etc,as promised by God.
The Prodigal Son said
Dear Kate, ~~~ For one who proffesses to hate God… you sure spend a lot of time here ! ~~~~~ Anyhow, re: your posting to Patrick of the article you had on your computer, spinning a tale of how the Bible grew out of heathen Canaanite beleifs… is totally ridiculous ! Let me get this straight – according to that article (& apparently you too) if the ancient Canaanites used the word God(s) AND the Old Testament also uses the word God(s), then therefore there is no God ? ~~~ First, the word we (english speaking) use as ‘God’ in the Holy Bible – is from the Hebrew ‘Elohim’. The word Elohim is in fact the plural form of the word ‘Eloah’ (found in Deuteronomy 32:15-17 and Habakkuk 3:3, etc)… but the singular form appears in the O.T. only 250 times… while the plural Elohim is used over 2,500 times… (signifying Tri-unity).
The Prodigal Son said
… (Kate)… So you see – even IF the Canaanites used the same word… the word means God ! Just because they used the word God doesn’t mean it was the same God. Even the Luciferians (freemasons) and Satanists use the word God ! Oh, yes ! (look at a U.S. 1 dollar bill !) ~~~ I’ll answer your last question – “What other Gods are there ?” – by directly quoting scripture… (if you really have read the Bible more than once… maybe you’re reading too fast ?)
The Prodigal Son said
… “… But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not beleive, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.”… ~~~ Please notice the lower case ‘g’ in the first mention of this mystery ‘god’. (remember, Jesus’ Kingdom is not here – YET !) ~~~ Hope this helps you to realize the promise in John 8:32 because right now I fear you are perishing…
PT said
i used to not believe this, or rather i believed it but didn’t think it was a major problem but i now “see” otherwise. i suffer from depression, it’s probably not demonic, it’s probably chemical. however, we know that the devil will attack us in our weak places. here’s an example. if you hate alcohol, like me, i could probably never be an alcoholic. the stuff just tastes so vile, it always has. if i drink beer, i’ll throw up and not get drunk. the couple times i got drunk off hard alcohol, well, it was very tasty mixed drinks anyways, and my “drunkenness” which supposedly is a light headed euphoric time, not for me! i was so physically ill during the time i was drunk. being drunk was like being on a tilt a whirl — oh, thanks to inner ear issues, i HATE going on carnival rides and rollercoasters, i can barely tolerate the merry go round. and then i puked for three days, was deeply depressed, was horribly dehydrated, and it took me a full week to recover from being drunk. so, the devil will probably not tempt me with alcohol. fatty, salty, sugary, process foods — that’s another matter. i’m tempted by those. i want to be healthy and in shape. and then i get depressed and want to throw it all away and i go and sabotage myself — i defile this temple of the holy spirit not with alcohol but with potato chips and chocolate and candy and sodas. i have friends who just don’t “get” sugar and binge eating. they honestly don’t understand the concept of binge eating.
oh, i’m wordy by the way.
my point is, i knew previously that satan will trick and tempt and lie to us. some things are easier for some people and some things are easier for others. i can’t be around smokers, i will get violently ill. so i don’t think i’m going to have a problem with smoking either.
but my therapist, a wonderful godly man, i started going to after it became obvious that no antidepressant would ever cure my depression. some people i know that these antidepressants are miracles. they work for these people without horrible side effects, and they can function. most of my friends and colleages, and even my doctors, now believe and see the evidence that antidepressants aren’t miracle drugs. they don’t work nearly as often as the pharmco rackets say. big pharm can do much good, but it can do much evil — like addicting a whole generation of americans to pills they don’t really need. and the withdrawal effects of antidepressants can literally cause you to kill yourself. i got off them, and while i still am depressed, i don’t consider that i suffer from depression anymore. maybe i do.
i’m getting to my point about evil spirits…
but i learned that the only way to “get over” grief is to grieve. it’s ok to cry yourself to sleep for five years if you’re in your 40s and were sexually, mentally, emotionally, and physically abused your whole childhood and you destroyed your good productive years running from a monster you could never get away from, no matter how many legal or illegal drugs you tried, no matter how much sex you had, no matter how many friendships, relationships you chased, and even no matter how much you prayed. sometimes, you can only just lay down and cry. i have discovered that grieving, heaving so hard you think you can’t breathe because of your grief, rage, anger, hurt — that’s actually a prayer. there are prayers that we say that we don’t have words for. people with much more limited vocabularies than me say much more profound prayers than i ever could. we pray with our spirit, and usually though not always, those prayers can be expressed in words. but i have found that often, even human words can’t say our prayers. i think there is the verse about the holy spirit interceding for us in groans. hey, if the holy spirit groans without words, then how can i even come up with words sufficient enough to explain to sovereign god the unexplainable!!!!
so my therapist taught me that you are going to have to cry, and hurt, and let christ go through this with you. christ can and will lift you out of it. but often christ will rather go through it with us, to bear our pain with us, to let us know that this life really does hurt and it really is hard, and he didn’t have it that easy either, and he was abandoned, violated, murdered, so he really honestly knows how we feel, and maybe he would rather hug us and hold our hand and cry with us than just snap his fingers and magically make everything better. christ wants ****relationships**** with us. not this detached magic santa claus relationship.
now i am to the part about demons. as i was going off the antidepressants, i had real live hallucinations. i was still cognizant that these were hallucinations. i’ve never really had them before. but i could see and hear these “things” and i knew in my “good” brain that they were just withdrawal effects just like the vomiting and headaches and rebound depression. i have the blues from a bad day, they belong to ME, see. and i also have depression, those tears belong to the monster depression. and i also had rebound depression, which was not mine nor my depressions, it was just a bad reaction to going off antidepressants. it was like me being so physically ill from being drunk that time. it took longer than a week — it took six months to get past all that. now, i am able to have a bad day, and it’s not depression, but a bad day. i can be hurt at being betrayed or lied to — and it’s hurt not depression. i can be angry because i have made a mistake and messed up my life — and that’s not depression. i can also have joy and peace and not be terrified because what if i am bipolar and this is a manic episode? i can have good days and bad days, and even can have boring normal days when not much happens and i just go to work and walk briskly and eat and read the bible without all these revelations, just a nice boring calm everyday day.
on to demons…
while i was having those withdrawal hallucinations, i also was having ‘other’ hallucinations. i heard and felt and smelled and saw shapes in the hallway of my entry. i had just started going to counseling. my counsellor from testing me and giving me all these questionnaires, he felt that perhaps i had the gift to discern spirits. now, he changed the wording! i had always thought i had a gift of a discerning spirit, as if i could tell if someone was lying or telling the truth. sometimes i can. i can see patterns that others can’t. i can deduce and come to conclusions and it’s very mathematical acutally. i don’t know how to explain it, but i can see spiritual, emotional, and mental things but using a mathematical framework. i just see these patterns. that’s all great actually and i have finally learned that it is a gift and god doesn’t give us gifts for us to waste and not use.
but what the counsellor said was i seemed to have the gift of discerning spirits — i could sense other spirits, non human entities. this place i moved into, i knew in my heart it was where i should be. i am only alive this far along in my life because at certain seemingly minor junctures in my life, i would sense that i should go this way or that. i never put it all together but the LORD leads us, and he has led me without me knowing it. in fact, it’s usually better for me if i don’t know it at the time because then i won’t mess up a blessing he is trying to give me. i can really sabotage things well, that’s another one of my talents.
but i was seeing things, and i knew when i was hallucinating, and i knew when i wasn’t. i finally told the counsellor that i’ve had these ‘feelings’ all my life at various points. i have seen and felt demonic and good forces. this sounds so corny coming from me, i would call you a crazy jesus freak if you told me what i’m about to say, but this one grocery chain, i always do better if i go to this one location than the other location. i can “discern” spiritual places. it often has to do with springs of water. i have this odd ability (this is humor) to always get good parking. i also have this odd ability (not humor) to be able to find springs. in the woods i can go one way or the other, when hiking. i usually go the way and find a spring. my pop moved out into the country and for some reason, the most peaceful place on his property, i found out was right by a spring. and it’s a big un too, feeds into a river. it’s so peaceful.
so back to discerning spirits. i can discern spirits. i can tell if there is an evil sprit there sometimes. often times. i can be driving and get this huge impenetrable black mountain of dread telling me to take this other way home. we all get these sometimes, but i seem to get them more often.
so while i knew this place i am living was for now where i should be (many times, god puts you where you should be now. but where he puts you now, it will save your life right now, but it’s not where you will end up. at some point, often it will later become the one place you should not be). so i moved in and these beings were touching me, i was afraid to opoen my eyes. i could hear them. they were congregating in the entry hall. they would run into my room and accuse me and even touch me. and they knew i was scared so they tried to scare me.
it took a week but after i told my counsellor, he said, get your bible and put it out on your nightstand. and i unpacked my bible and did so. he said, get where you can turn your night light on and read your bible whenever they do that. and read it out loud — they HATE to hear the gospel. and also, go and pray them out of the house. go through every room, every doorway, and evict them from every room, at every doorway, and get up to the front door, and pray them out the door. i did so, and one night, i turned on the light and opened my eyes because christ was my savior and the worst they could do was the best that could ever happen — they could kill me and then i’m in heaven and they no longer have this soul to taunt and tease and terrify. so i opened my eyes, i actually saw shadows and shapes. and i knew this was not the antidepressant withdrawal shapes i saw and heard. this was something not in my own head, it was out there in the hallway. i cannot tell you how i know the difference, but i just did know the difference. the hallucinations were coming from inside my broken and ill mind. the visions were coming from the hallway, from outside me, towards me. i got up and got my bible and walked right towards them, prayed them out of my bedroom, and prayed them out the front door. i said, whoever is in here i belong to jesus christ. you can tell me i am a sinner and am going to hell, and i can tell you that yes i am a sinner but i believe in christ, i believe he rose from the dead, and i testify that christ rose from the dead, and that anybody in this house that disagrees must leave and not come back.
it took a week or so, but they left.
i have discovered that a saved person can (it’s not uncommon) be afflicted by demonic forces. they aren’t possessing you but they sure are smacking you around. for me it feels like they bite me and won’t let go, like a pit bull. it drags me down and makes me feel spiritually heavy. it’s hard to shake them off and it takes lots of practice and trying not to get into trouble. staying out of places i should stay out of. and listening to god. some days, it’s god’s will for me to do nothing other than get out of the house and go to the beautiful urban park and walk down the sunny trails or ride my bike. a few times, i’ve been told (strongly felt) to not go there. there have been times in my life i have taken a different route home and somebody had been murdered or beaten right where i would have been driving.
i thought my old pentecostal great grandmother was crazy. well, she was kind of nutty — we’re all nuts, we’re not boring to say the least. but she prayed out evil spirits, and she prayed away her headaches! i get these migranes, and aspirin won’t work, tylenol won’t work, even prescribed narcotics won’t work sometimes. and i can pray them out and in 30 seconds they are gone. WOW. i never believed that. well i did believe it. i do not put a single thing past god. if god can create this universe, if christ can raise from the dead, i mean, if something can come from nothing, and if life can come from death, then what’s one guy’s migrane? it is uncanny and amazing and almost unbelievable.
so i have started looking at life from a slightly different perspective. i used to think that if i tripped and fell on my face, it was just an accident. or god’s sense of humor — because hey, i’m not graceful and i can’t ever just fall down, it is always this giant, slow-motion sprawl that rivals anything charlie chaplin or the three stooges or bugs bunny could ever do. but i have started realizing that sometimes, not every time, only rarely, but on rare occasions, a demonic force will trip me. literally, and metaphorically.
demons are out there. god is real, christ is real (and risen by the way, which is a great weapon for us, to explain how christ rose from the dead, explain it out into the thin air, and the beings in thin air will get disgusted and leave!), and also sadly, satan is real and his demons are real.
i do no suggest going up against them yourself. only do it clothed in god’s armor. the best way is to read the bible OUT LOUD so they can hear you. find the most uncomfortable bible verses (to them) especially about jesus raising from the dead, and verses about how christ is god, and the divinity of christ, and the sovereignty of god. also, verses telling explicitly how and in what ways god is utterly, completely good, his mercy towards us sinners, that really makes them uncomfortable. they know we are sinners and can point it out to you much better than you could. but they don’t do it for the same reason the holy spirit points out your sin. the holy spirit points out your sin to get you to clean it out of your life, he does it out of love for you, so you are clean — you know how icky you feel if you don’t have a bath for a week! the demons, they do it to accuse you and bring you down. they may speak the truth even — sometimes the truth is worse than the lie. but they do not have good intentions for you. they tell you the truth that you did this or that, because you are going to hell — that’s what they tell you. they tell you to just give up and give in. you’re going to hell anyways so why try. sure you’re going to burn forever, so you might as well have things your own way for just this one little blip in eternity.
the holy spirit is the other way around. he says, hey, you shouldn’t be doing this. you should repent and let me clean you and fix you back up. don’t you know you are the vessel for me to live in and abide in? don’t you know you are created to reflect god’s glory? hey, come and let’s work through this, and let me help you clean up and get a little bit more pure — small steps, we can do it all, but it’s going to take some time, and it might hurt a bit, and it might hurt a lot. but we will get there. trust me, i am the holy spirit of god — i will not let you down, i will not leave you, i will heal you and fix you. all you have to do is take that one tiny step. all you have to do is to entertain that slightest thought that maybe god is worthy of your trust, come on, just give me one thing to work with, let me prove it to you again and again how much i loveyou, how beloved you are, how special you are. don’t you know that you have the ability to reflect god’s glory? don’t you know that one of these days after you leave this earth you will be able to withstand god’s light pouring through you?
that’s the holy spirit, and he wants those demons to get off your back (literally) so he can work on turning a clay pot into a golden palace fit for the king of the entire creation and universe to come live in forever.
that’s what we ought to try for — our god, our holy spirit, our beloved christ who saves us — they deserve more than some dirty place in the corner to come and dwell. they deserve the most splendid palace. that’s what’s going on with you here. you are going to be a palace, not a shack. and trust me, it’s going to be painful in this life. all that renovation and building and hammering and nailing and refinement by fire — god is worthy of only the finest gold, and the finest gold only comes about from being refined in the fire over and over. so let’s get rid of those demons and get on with the business of palace building.
hey — there was a reason christ was a carpenter by trade while on this earth!!!!! and you are that reason!!!!
Rob said
This was some interesting reading, and the topic of demonic influence is something that you don’t often hear much of spoken from the pulpit, yet this is something that all believers must be aware of and on guard against. I’ve recently read some of Wayne Grudem’s comments on this topic, and it was a good reminder to me personally that our battle is not a physical one but spiritual.
Andre van der Merwe said
The correct question is where do demons get their power from?
Read the article on our site next week in our next newsletter.
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Yours in Grace
Andre
Dorian Saunders said
The Lord Jesus Christ is the head of ALL principality and power. (Colossians 2:10)
jaredstein said
“The demon of smoking addiction comes out with a cough or gasp.”
Riiight.