Independent Conservative » Blog Archive » Why Did Pat Robertson Lie to Michael Eisner About Salvation?On June 20, 2006 the cable TV network CNBC featured media mogul
Michael Eisner interviewing Pat Robertson. Although this happened some
time ago, there was something that took place during this particular
interview, that I have not found much outcry against and I felt it
should be noted here. Because it is a totally misleading use of
scripture and Pat Robertson once again showed he’s following AND
TEACHING a false gospel, to say what he said to Michael Eisner.
What concerns me occurred at the tail end of the interview. You can watch video of the interview via this link and once the interview video starts (after an advertisement), you can advance to 4:22 to see where things start regarding what I’m speaking of here.
… MICHAEL EISNER:
This may be a silly question. I’ve almost been married as long as you have. About 40 years. How long have you been married?
All right. So I’m not– I’m not in your league. I’m not in your league.
So my wife is Christian.
So I appreciate the fact that she’s Christian. She can go to heaven. I’m Jewish.
So from what I understand, we only can be together in– on this Earth. ‘Cause I can’t go to heaven, according to the 700 Club.
No, not according to the 700 Club. I don’t know who it’s according to.
All right. So– well, I thought Jews couldn’t go to heaven.
All right. Here’s the deal. And with this– the Apostle Paul said that
all Israel will be saved. There’s going to come a time when all Jews
are gonna come to heaven. They’re all gonna meet the– the Lord. And–
and it’s– it’s in the Old Testament. Zachariah says they’ll look upon
him who they have pierced, and they’re going to mourn and so forth. But
there’s gonna come a time of extraordinary persecution. There already
has come. But it’s gonna be some serious stuff. And– it’s told by the
Old Testament prophets the answer that we believe as evangelicals is
that God has a special role for the Jewish people. And you look at– you
look at the 22nd Psalm. He talks about his bones pulled out of joint,
you know? And he talks about people surrounding. And he looks down, and
it describes the crucifixion. It’s all in there. It’s in the Old
Testament– describing what happened. And– I’m just one of the goy that
came along late. (LAUGHTER) I– I’m– I’m converting to the– to the faith
of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
So you’re converting to Judaism.
Well, I’m not converting to Judaism. (OVERTALK)
See, I thought I’d– this would be– this would be a big announcement here.
I could get a big rating.
I’m converting– (OVERTALK)
Pat Robertson converts to Judaism. (OVERTALK)
–faith of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And– but the time is coming very
soon when there’s going to be a revelation of the Lord to everybody.
And all Israel, all Israel is gonna get saved.
You’ve always been known to be very pro-Israel.
Totally pro-Israel. I mean, I– I’ve got the Star of David printed on my underwear. I mean, it’s that kind of thing.
Thought you had Mickey Mouse on your underwear.
(LAUGHTER) (UNINTEL) said you’re more Israeli than (UNINTEL). But in–
in any event– I firmly believe that according to the Bible, the– the
fullness of the Gentiles will come in. And then all Israel will be
saved. That’s what the Apostle Paul wrote.
Wow. (LAUGHTER) Thank you very much– (OVERTALK)
Got a lot to think about now.
(LAUGHTER) I want you to be with your wife.
Yeah. I’m gonna be with her, one way or the other.
What Pat Robertson basically said was (paraphrasing), All you Jews are going to Heaven, because Paul said ALL ISRAEL will be saved.
In the context Pat Robertson spoke, he spoke a lie. We could say Hebrew scripture notes all Israel one day went into the promised land, HOWEVER we should not forget that many did not get beyond the wilderness.
Numbers 14:22-32 (New American Standard Bible)
22 “Surely all the men who have seen My glory and My
signs which I performed in Egypt and in the wilderness, yet have put Me
to the test these ten times and have not listened to My voice,
23 shall by no means see the land which I swore to their fathers, nor shall any of those who spurned Me see it.
24 “But My servant Caleb, because he has had a different spirit and
has followed Me fully, I will bring into the land which he entered, and
his descendants shall take possession of it.
25 “Now the Amalekites and the Canaanites live in the valleys; turn
tomorrow and set out to the wilderness by the way of the Red Sea.”
26 The LORD spoke to Moses and Aaron, saying,
27 “How long shall I bear with this evil congregation who are
grumbling against Me? I have heard the complaints of the sons of
Israel, which they are making against Me.
28 “Say to them, ‘As I live,’ says the LORD, ‘just as you have spoken in My hearing, so I will surely do to you;
29 your corpses will fall in this wilderness, even all your
numbered men, according to your complete number from twenty years old
and upward, who have grumbled against Me.
30 ‘Surely you shall not come into the land in which I swore to
settle you, except Caleb the son of Jephunneh and Joshua the son of Nun.
31 ‘Your children, however, whom you said would become a prey–I
will bring them in, and they will know the land which you have rejected.
32 ‘But as for you, your corpses will fall in this wilderness.
Take note of the statement “nor shall any of those who spurned Me see it”.
The Messiah of Hebrew scripture has come and His name is Jesus, Yeshua.
Yeshua, Jesus is the Christ. Since his coming, He warned Israel for
their unbelief in Him.
Luke 19:41-44 (New American Standard Bible)
41 When He approached Jerusalem, He saw the city and wept over it,
42 saying, “If you had known in this day, even you, the things
which make for peace! But now they have been hidden from your eyes.
43 “For the days will come upon you when your enemies will throw up
a barricade against you, and surround you and hem you in on every side,
44 and they will level you to the ground and your children within
you, and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you
did not recognize the time of your visitation.”
And it did happen.
Jesus provided the means for salvation through belief on Him. Jesus even explained this himself in John 3.
Through His sacrificial death, burial and resurrection, He provides
salvation to all who believe on Him, turning from darkness, both Jew
and Gentile alike.
One who rejects Jesus does not have the Father, they do not have God. They are not saved.
1 John 2:22-23 (New American Standard Bible)
22 Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is
the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and
23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also.
Therefore, it is impossible to tell anyone, even a Jew (a person of Hebrew blood) that they can be saved via any means except they believe on Jesus Christ. If they deny Him, they are not saved, period.
So what of all Israel being saved as Paul said? It is just like it
was for the Jews of the past. Those who deny the truth God has given to
man through His Son will perish, but a final remnant of Israel will
believe on Him and be saved. This does not mean Michael Eisner will be
part of that group. So to tell Michael Eisner “all Israel”, as if it
applies to him and all Jews is an untruth. Romans 11
is best read in full, given it details things fully. Through Hebrew
disobedience a means of salvation was made for Gentiles that believe on
Christ, but no Jew who rejects Christ will be saved. All Jews reading
this post should read the book of Hebrews from its first chapter to its last (chapter 13). When the fullness of Gentiles has come in (all Gentiles who are the Lord’s believe on Him),
that final remaining remnant of Hebrew blood will be at a point in
biblical prophesy, where they will all accept Jesus as Lord and He will
save them and all still in flesh at that time who believe on Him. All
who die today believing on Christ are saved too, but not anyone who
fails to. This does not mean Michael Eisner is saved by virtue of his
heritage, no more than anyone else that fails to believe on Jesus.
I feel it is a heinous crime against the Lord God, that so-called Christians are lying to people of Hebrew descent.
I first saw this here but it was confirmed in this devotional as well. Man oh man, I love this election season. So many prominent Christian leaders in the limelight are being exposed for what they are. From the people backing Huckabee despite knowing his connections to the Council on Foreign Relations and to apostates like Kenneth Copeland and John Hagee to Pat Robertson backing Giuliani to the MANY evangelicals and even some fundamentalists backing Mormon Mitt Romney to Donnie McClurkin and many other leading black Christians backing Barack HUSSEIN Obama (here, here, here, here, here, here) well the Lord is exposing for the whole world to see what these prominent Christians are really about and after – the things of this world.Christians, is this the falling away of the American church? If so, make sure that you are not part of that falling away. In a sense, things have been this bad for quite awhile, because the fact that Martin Luther King, Jr. was no better than a Mormon because he did not believe in the deity or resurrection of Jesus Christ despite it being commonly reported … so many people do not know because they do not care to know. And never forget: King’s rise was due to so many alleged Christians, many of them evangelicals and fundamentalists, supporting segregation and racism! Still, I regularly ask some older (than me) Christians have things always been this bad, and even the ones that personally experienced segregation and poverty say without hesitation “No, it wasn’t.”
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“The word of the LORD came to me: “Son of man, prophesy against the
shepherds of Israel; prophesy and say to them: ‘This is what the Sovereign
LORD says: Woe to the shepherds of Israel who only take care of themselves!
Should not shepherds take care of the flock? You eat the curds, clothe
yourselves with the wool and slaughter the choice animals, but you do not
take care of the flock. You have not strengthened the weak or healed the
sick or bound up the injured. You have not brought back the strays or
searched for the lost. You have ruled them harshly and brutally. So they
were scattered because there was no shepherd, and when they were scattered
they became food for all the wild animals. My sheep wandered over all the
mountains and on every high hill. They were scattered over the whole earth,
and no one searched or looked for them.” Ezekiel 34:1-6
A sad commentary on so many pastors and Christian leaders right from God’s
Word. Last week I was doing some study in the Book of Ezekiel. In reading
through some passages, I came across these first 6 verses in Ezekiel 34. As
I read these words, I could only think that this was the sad description of
so many pastors and Christian leaders today. 50 years ago, you could sit in
the pew of most any church of any denomination and hear the Truth of God’s
Word. Those pastors and the men and women God raised up on the national
scene were men and women who would never compromise the Truth of the Bible
and understood their only mission was to bring the lost to Christ.
Fast forward to the year 2008 and you have entire denominations of pastors
who don’t even preach, teach or believe the Bible. It is questionable if
many pastors were ever “called” and are even saved. Those who have risen up
into national prominence are more worried about selling books, having the
newest private jet, building bigger buildings, and living like the rulers of
small nations rather than preaching the unadulterated Truth of the Bible and
leading the lost to faith in Jesus Christ. My goodness, you now have
so-called Christian leaders who are endorsing and working for the member of
a satanic cult to become our next President!!!
When these are the men and women leading the people, why are we surprised
that many who sit in the pews of the nations churches on Sunday aren’t even
saved, don’t accept the Bible as Absolute Truth and our only authority, and
the majority of the ones who do lead weak and ineffective lives. That is
why I encourage people all the time to seek out a pastor who is a true
shepherd. That is increasingly difficult today, but there are still many
men of God who have not bowed their knee to Baal and are not the shepherds
described in Ezekiel 34. Sunday is the day most Christians go to church. It
is the only time most of you ever see your pastor, and that is usually from
your seat in the sanctuary as he leads the worship service and preaches the
Having preached in over 500 churches of every denomination nationwide, I can
honestly tell you that for most pastors, Sunday morning is their favorite
day of the week and the one day they usually feel their work for God really
has some meaning. You can never know the pressure most pastors are under. If
it was only getting up on Sunday morning and being the “man of God” it would
be wonderful, but that is not reality. It is a 7-day a week, 24-hour a day
calling. Many have outside jobs. There is the constant pressures of raising
the budget, dealing with the interpersonal problems that always exist when
you have a group of people, overseeing the political infighting that often
occurs, on top of the spiritual requirements of shepherding the flock,
having an anointed word each week for the various services, and other
requirements the office of pastor carries with it.
My prayer for you today is to support your pastor. Pray for your pastor each
day. John 10 gives us the picture of the ideal pastor. Pray that your pastor
will be able to tear away from the distractions of this world to be the
shepherd described in John 10. God has placed that pastor in your life to
guide you, spiritually nurture you, and have spiritual leadership over your
life. Do all you can to show your love and appreciation for all your pastor
does for you, most of which you may not even recognize. Also, God has placed
your pastor in your life for spiritual leadership. When you come into times
of crisis, don’t hesitate to go to your pastor. That is ultimately why they
are there, to help you and guide you through those difficult times in your
I love you and care about you so much. I pray for you daily. Sadly, today
there are too many pastors and Christian leaders who fall into the
description found in Ezekiel 34. It makes the work that much more difficult
when you have people running around calling themselves Christians, but
supporting sins like abortion, homosexuality, the destruction of God’s plan
fo the family. You have others who think there is nothing wrong with
belonging to a cult or false religions and they have bought the
universalistic lie from hell that everyone will get to Heaven.
Let this message today be a remember to lift up your pastor in prayer and
recognize him for all he does for your life. God has called His sheep to be
obedient and obey those in spiritual authority. Take inventory and see if
you are fulfilling this admonition, and ask God to help you. He loves you so
much, that he has placed your pastor in your life to shepherd you and guide
you in your spiritual journey. Show your love for Him today by praying for
and supporting your pastor.
***ARE YOU 100% CERTAIN WHERE YOU WILL SPEND ETERNITY? The fact is you will
die one day. At that moment, you will either spend eternity with the Lord or
be cast into everlasting darkness forever separated from God your creator.
To know for certain you will be forever with Jesus, go to: http://www.liveprayer.com/bdy_salvatn.cfm
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My note: This devotional was written by pastor and televangelist Bill Keller of Live Prayer. I had decided to stop posting Bill Keller’s devotionals that dealt with Mormonism for a time for reasons that I will not get into. But after seeing Glenn Beck exploit the death of Hinckley as an opportunity to promote his religion on CNN last night, I am making a one time exception to my policy. Please note: Keller is right when he says that there is no difference between Mormonism and Islam. So why is the religious right so much more tolerant of one than the other? You know that if Mitt Romney were Muslim, he’d have the same “he is part of a global Muslim conspiracy to take over our government” theories as are circulating about Barack HUSSEIN Obama. I will tell you the reason: race. Mormonism was founded by whites and in America is an overwhelmingly white religion, so they are not only tolerated by the religious right, but are fully embraced by them. Meanwhile, Islam is an Arab religion. That is why the same religious right hypocrites that went nuts over Keith Ellison merely being elected to Congress are actually praying for Mitt Romney to save them from Mike Huckabee, Rudy Giuliani, and John McCain (not that I support any of them either by the way). The way these conservatives, especially Roman Catholics, are claiming that Mitt Romney is the victim of oh so much bigotry after decades of using racism and segregation against BLACKS to build their own party would be hilarious if it wasn’t so evil. (By the way, check out this Roman Catholic pro – segregation site that claims that God never intended for Christianity to spread outside the white race … surprise surprise they like Romney.) It was as if they were saying “Hey evangelicals, Romney is one of us where it really counts, so vote your race, it is more important than your religion!” That is why the same folks on the right who continuously demand that blacks bear the discrimination that we face while picking and grinning about it start braying like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and the NAACP whenever Romney’s religion is discussed in any terms other than “oh we can trust Romney to save America because he is a devoted Mormon who believes in Jesus with a beautiful wife and five sons.” Well, again, anyone who doubts that Romney would use the White House to promote his faith not only in America but also overseas (the people that they falsely claim are the cursed seed of Ham and for that reason held them in second class status until 1978 – a fact which conservatives love I bet – apparently are a major mission field for them!) should view Glenn Beck’s performance below.
An evil tool of satan masquerading as a Godly grandfather is buring in hell
for all eternity! Gordon B. Hinckley, the leader of the satanic Mormon cult
is dead at 97. Hinckley saw this cult grow from 9 million members to over
13 million members worldwide during his 12-year reign as its leader. While
Hinckley is already being memorialized as a “great man of God,” the fact is
his life has been an instrument in the hands of satan to help lead the souls
of men to hell by following the false theology of the Mormon cult.
Many people, even Christians will rail against me for being so unkind, but
this only illustrates the problem we have. Even Believers don’t take the
eternal souls of men serious enough. As I state often, this is a battle for
souls. Satan is not playing games and is serious about taking as many souls
into the lake of fire with him as he can. I am saddened at how many
Christians either don’t understand, or don’t want to think about the FACT
that those who die without Jesus, the Jesus of the Bible, will pass from
this life into eternal punishment!
I know some people are outraged that I would be “so mean” to call Mormonism
a satanic cult. I receive emails all the time talking about the great works
they do. First, I have no doubt that most Mormons are fine people, good
people, and do great works. But being a good person and doing good works
does NOT get you into Heaven. Only faith in Jesus Christ, the Jesus of the
Bible, will get you into Heaven. The Mormon cult spends tens of millions of
dollars each year in public relations to portray themselves as “just another
DO NOT LET THEIR ADS FOOL YOU. They are no more a Christian church than your
local mosque is!
The lie of Mormonism that I expose is not a new problem. Paul, himself, had
to deal with the issue of “cults”-those who perverted the Gospel-almost from
the very beginning. He spoke of it often in his writings, as in today’s
anchor verses in his letter to the church at Galatia. This is nothing new.
Here are just a few of the theological issues that makes the satanic Mormon
cult totally inconsistent with Biblical Christianity and why a Mormon is no
more a Christian than a Muslim is. The god of the Mormon cult is NOT the God
of the Bible. Their “god” is named Elohim and was once a man like you and I
who came from another planet. Mormon theology teaches that men can
eventually become a god and have their own planet. When a Mormon talks about
“god,” he is talking about this fictitious god of Mormonism and NOT the God
of the Bible!
This holds true for Jesus. The jesus of Mormon theology is not God incarnate
as the Bible teaches. The Mormon jesus was not supernaturally conceived by
the Holy Ghost, but the natural offspring of their “god” Elohim who had sex
with Mary, meaning he is a created being no different than you and I.
Mormons also teach that their jesus had several wives and children, again,
in compete contradiction to what the Bible teaches. The jesus of the Mormon
cult is also the spirit brother of Lucifer and will return not to the Mt. Of
Olives as the Bible teaches, but to Independence, Missouri to set up his
When a Mormon talks about “jesus,” he is NOT talking about the true Jesus of
the Bible! What Jesus you put your faith in is so critical, since this is
why anyone who puts their faith in the imaginary jesus of Joseph Smith and
the satanic Mormon cult will die in their sins and their souls burn forever
in the flames of hell!
What about the Bible and true Christian churches? Mormons love to use the
Bible and quote from the Bible to support their deception that they are
Christians. The trademark of all cults and false religions, even those who
use the Bible, is that it is NOT their final authority. In the Mormon cult,
their authority does not come from the Bible which they view as incomplete
and not reliable, but the writings of Smith, the Book of Mormon, the Pearl
of Great Price, and the Doctrine and Covenants. These are the writings that
form the false theology of this cult.
Mormons believe that non-Mormons are “abominations.” While they don’t have
the guts the Muslims do to publicly call a non-Muslim an infidel who should
be put to death, a Mormon views a Biblical Christian as part of a “false
religion” and void of all authority.
Like in all cults, the average member hasn’t got a clue what their cult
really believes. You only get to know everything after you have proven
yourself to be a loyal and worthy member of the cult. That is true in the
Mormon cult as well. Most Mormons go to their “church,” sing many of the
same hymns they sing at the Baptist church down the road, give their tithe,
read a few passages out of the Bible, hear a message about being a “good
person,” and go home.
It is only when you get to become a “temple Mormon” that you really learn
all of the deep, dark, beliefs of Mormonism. The Mormon temple rituals are
actually little more than the temple rituals Smith copied from another cult,
Freemasonry! Smith who was involved in the Masonic cult, simply copied and
incorporated their chants, handshakes, and ceremonies when he started the
Mormon cult. These are the same chants, handshakes, and ceremonies Romney
participated in when he took his oath to the Mormon cult above anything
else, INCLUDING THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AND CONSTITUTION!
The average person has no idea that the ultimate goal of the Mormon cult is
to establish a theocracy here in the United States. Joseph Smith, the cult’s
founder actually ran for the Presidency. So did Mitt Romney’s father. This
cult has the very real goal of establishing the “Kingdom of God,” which
means advancing the physical and earthly organization of the multi-billion
dollar Mormon cult.
There is a special room in the Mormon Temple located in Washington, DC that
has been prepared and in place for over 30 years, which will be the seat of
power for the Mormon-led government which will supplant our current
government. This was the vision Smith laid out less than 200 years ago, and
Mitt Romney and those in the hierarchy and leadership of the Mormon cult see
this as the time for that vision to become fulfilled!
I love you and care about you so much. Gordon B. Hinckley was NOT a great
“man of God,” but simply a tool of satan who used his life to lead millions
to the false teachings of the Mormon cult, meaning those poor souls died in
their sins and are in hell for all eternity along with all who reject the
Jesus of the Bible. He did not become a “god” upon his death as Mormons
believe. He didn’t get his own planet full of women waiting to have sex with
him. The moment he died, Hinckley stood before God and because he rejected
Jesus and died in his sins, was immediately cast into hell for all eternity!
I have done my best in a limited amount of time to give you a brief overview
of the false and satanic beliefs of the Mormon cult. I have just barely
scratched the surface, but just in what I have shared with you today, NOBODY
in their right mind could ever believe that a Mormon is a Christian. When
you study Mormon theology and understand the wild beliefs of Smith and this
cult, you need faith greater than I will ever hope to have to believe what
they do. There is no logic to it and there is absolutely nothing they
believe that has any basis in realty or can be proven.
Listen, God gave us free will, and men who live in rebellion to God since
the very beginning have dreamed up the wildest and most ridiculous religions,
and sadly people who were spiritually void chose to believe their lies and
will be lost for all eternity because of it. The danger of Mormonism is that
they are deceptive (just look at their name, the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter Day Saints) and will lie without conscience just like the father of
lies, satan (John 8:44), to get people to join their cult.
I pray today for those 13 million souls alive today who are following the
lies of this cult, to turn from those lies before they take their last
breath and are lost for all eternity. There is only one Truth, and that is
found in the book God wrote, the Bible. There is only one way to be saved,
and that is through a personal relationship by faith with the Jesus of the
Bible. May those lost in the lies of the Mormon cult denounce those lies
and turn to God’s Word alone and faith in Jesus and be saved so they don’t
end up burning in hell like Gordon B. Hinckley!!!
***ARE YOU 100% CERTAIN WHERE YOU WILL SPEND ETERNITY? The fact is you will die one day. At that moment, you will either spend eternity with the Lord or be cast into everlasting darkness forever separated from God your creator. To know for certain you will be forever with Jesus, go to: http://www.liveprayer.com/bdy_salvatn.cfm
***I am excited to let you know that the Liveprayer Daily Devotional is now
available via AUDIO each day. Simply go to http://www.liveprayer.com/Audio.cfm
Also, you can now listen to the Daily Devotional by phone by calling 1-727-342-5673
(C) Copyright 2008, Bill Keller Ministries. All rights reserved.
Update: The good folks at Spiritual Pathways Ministries say that this series will run daily thru Friday of this week!
Apparently another attempt to syncretize Christianity with practices and philosophies borrowed from eastern religions, similar to the “Yahweh yoga” and “contemplative prayer” scams. If you see the website dedicated to this movement, theophostic.com/content.asp?ID=2#section2, it becomes self evident. What they are promoting really does remind me of the Scientology practice of auditing, but they have replaced their language with some Christianity and that of the mainstream pop psychology and New Age that has been popularized by people like Oprah Winfrey. The most revealing part is their long “do not try this at home, this ministry can only be performed by people with the proper training!” disclaimer. Of course, the Bible does not come with such warnings, and I have even heard testimonies from people that have started Christian churches and used by God to produce such mighty works as healings and prophesying (yes, I am an anti – cessationist charismatic and always will be) after possessing only a few books of the Bible (not even an entire New Testament!) or hearing a view Christian sermons over the radio.
The series of articles below from Spiritual Pathways Ministries (spm100.wordpress.com) links Council On Foreign Relations worker Rick Warren – surprise surprise – to this new movement, and also give us a new organization to monitor: the Christian and Missionary Alliance (cmalliance.org). Also, it appears that the good people from the most excellent Let Us Reason Ministries (letusreason.org/curren21.htm) are onto this movement.
Christians, the way to avoid getting deceived by these false doctrines and movements is to come to the cold hard realization that Christianity has been around for 2000 years. Further, the vast majority of Christians that have ever lived have practiced their faiths in the absence of our great wealth and modern technology and conveniences, and a great many also have practiced their faiths in the face of the possibility of legitimate persecution. Think of all the people, brilliant people indeed with the powerful anointing of the Holy Spirit, that have dedicated their entire lives to study of the Bible and to prayer? Even people who outwardly appeared to have been preoccupied with other things were actually living their lives completely dedicated to God. One of the things that you will never hear about Sir Isaac Newton in any public classroom, for instance, was that his scientific and intellectual inquiry had a thoroughly religious motive and a highly spiritual one at that. So the notion that after all this time someone is going to come along with a new doctrine, revelation, or practice that for some reason God chose to withhold from the church for all this time is absurd. Further, the root of it all is vanity, self – pride. We are so convinced that of all the Christians that have ever lived we alone have been blessed by God to receive some new thing to do some special work that no one else has gotten the favor or grace of God to do. The popular claim given is that “well this knowledge was withheld from the church in the past BUT SINCE THESE ARE THE LAST DAYS AND THE RETURN OF JESUS CHRIST WILL OBVIOUSLY HAPPEN IN OUR LIFETIMES GOD IS CAUSING THESE THINGS TO COME TO PAST.” Fine, except that nowhere in THE BIBLE does it say that there will be a multiplication of new doctrines and works. The Bible DOES SAY, however, that in the time before the return of Christ there will be a multiplication of FALSE teachers, preachers, and doctrines that will deceive many; a strong delusion that will cause the great falling away. Now a lot of folks are highly critical of things like the Brownsville Revival, the Pensacola Revival, the Toronto Blessing, and a great many other things associated with the charismatic movement. Their concerns may be legitimate, but at least those things purport to be restorationist: a return to the doctrines and practices of the New Testament. So, with these it is the responsibility of more mainstream Christians to prove them wrong according by that same New Testament, and if we cannot to leave them be. But there is no justification to follow after any doctrine or practice that was NEVER given in the Bible, because doing so is a clear rejection of God by telling Him that His Word and the Jesus Christ that was the Word Incarnate in flesh are not good enough for you. And since you reject The Word by going after these lies, you also reject the Father and blaspheme the Holy Spirit. Even misguided Christians that are trying to live and receive blessings according to things pertaining to the old covenant are better off that such persons as those, because at least it can be said of them that they are trying to stay within the pages of the Bible. But there is no excuse for being so prideful and vain as to believe that you are so special that God would give you anything spiritual that has been withheld from the church all of this time. Christians today are no better than Christians that have lived in any other time, and taking time to humble ourselves before God and to realize that end a great deal of the nonsense proliferating through our churches today. Now as to why so many Christians allow this nonsense to go on without speaking out against it? That is another question altogether.
christiantoday.com/article/hindu.council.attacks.illegal.church.ban.on.yoga/12812.htm They are claiming that a church barring yoga is a violation of the Religious Equality Act. While some of you religious right sorts would prefer to see this as multiculturalism/political correctness, I see this as a clear church – state issue. The state has authority over the church in Britain and most other nations of the world, so they have the right to do this. Of course, at some point down the line the state in Britain is going to act in favor of the Hindus with the logic that sycnretism in general will lead to less religious discrimination and social unrest. They are going to claim that fundamentalist exclusive claims of any one religion are the cause of all the problems, and demand that all religions become universalist. Of course, you Christians that are for one reason or another demanding that the wall of separation between church and state in America are just asking for the state to come and stamp out true Christianity. Then again, since the correlation between religious belief and adherence to true Christianity is not as strong as some people would like to believe, maybe that is your agenda to begin with. The text of the article is below:
The Hindu Council UK (HCUK), the largest national network of Hindu organisations within the UK, is considering whether a ban on yoga classes at St James’ Church and the Silver Street Baptist Church in Taunton, Somerset, may breach the Equality Act 2006.
Lawyers for HCUK are exploring whether comments made by both The Reverend Tim Jones, Vicar of St James’ and The Reverend Simon Farrar of the Silver Street Baptist Church that yoga is a “sham”, a “false philosophy” and “unchristian” may indicate they have acted contrary to the ‘Religion and Belief’ section of the Act, specifically those parts relating to discrimination in providing goods, facilities and services.
HCUK is also considering whether to ask the Commission for Equality and Human Rights to investigate whether the priests’ comments amount to “instructing or causing discrimination”.
Along with other faith bodies, HCUK debated and contributed to the Equality Act before it became law. In these debates it was agreed unanimously from an interfaith perspective that the hire of religious premises should not restrict multi-cultural events without good reason, and that faiths themselves should participate in such activities.
HCUK General Secretary Anil Bhanot said: “These priests might appear to be advising Christians not to practice yoga because they believe it is based on a ‘sham’ and a ‘false philosophy’ but what in effect they mean is that Hinduism is a false religion.
HCUK’s spokesperson on Yoga, Amarjeet-singh Bhamra added: “Yoga is one of the oldest known medical systems enshrined in the Atharva Veda, the most ancient Hindu book on wisdom, and it is now at the forefront of holistic and integrated medicine in the West.
“It is very disappointing that such medieval-like irrational prejudice is still allowed to flourish in the Christian Church in 21st Century multicultural Britain.”
“Hinduism is an ancient religion that is the source of many different theologies, philosophies and sciences,” adds Anil Bhanot. “Many Hindus believe the source of all music can be found within one of our most ancient scriptures, the Saam Veda. It will be interesting to see, now they have been apprised of this, whether those church leaders who reject yoga will now announce a ban on all music on their premises too.” (Christianity teaches that Jubal was the father of music in Genesis 4:21; it is amazing that this fellow automatically presumes that we would take his scriptures and traditions as being somehow more valid than our own. This is clearly an attempt to coerce Christians into accepting and practicing Hinduism, spiritual imperialism.)
Rev Farrar of Silver Street Baptist Church has previously said: “We are a Christian organisation and when we let rooms to people we want them to understand that they must be fully in line with our Christian ethos.
“Clearly, yoga impinges on the spiritual life of people in a way which we as Christians don’t believe is the same as our ethos.
“If it was just a group of children singing nursery rhymes, there wouldn’t be a problem but she’s called it yoga and therefore there is a dividing line we’re not prepared to cross.”
The Rev Tim Jones, vicar of St James’s, supported the decision, saying: “Any alternative philosophies or beliefs are offering a sham – and at St James’s Church we want people to have the real thing. Yoga has its roots in Hinduism, and attempts to use exercises and relaxation techniques to put a person into a calm frame of mind – in touch with some kind of impersonal spiritual reality.
“The philosophy of yoga cannot be separated from the practice of it, and any teacher of yoga, even to toddlers, must subscribe to the philosophy.
“Yoga may appear harmless or even beneficial, but it is encouraging people to think that there is a way to wholeness of body and mind through human techniques – whereas the only true way to wholeness is by faith in God through Jesus Christ.”
One of the more common lies concerning Jesus Christ that is now being circulated by the rebellious and the scoffers was that Jesus Christ – and John the Baptist – were Essenes. It is even said that the Sermon on the Mount was an Essene prayer (which even if it were true disproves the existence and deity of Jesus Christ how?). But here is a description of Essene Judaism from The Crises and Responses of Intertestamental Judaism by J. Julius Scott.
1. The Essenes were monastic, ascetic, and puritanical. Jesus Christ ate rich meat and drank wine and associated with prostitutes, publicans, and other sinners.
2. The Essene life was open to adult males. Jesus Christ specifically sought to include women and children in His ministry.
3. The Essenes rejected the other forms of Judaism as illegitimate, and refused to worship in the temple or synagogues. Jesus Christ told His disciples that they could listen to the teachings of the Pharisees so long as they did not follow their hypocritical ways, and regularly worshiped and ministered in the temple and synagogues.
4. The Essenes were so strict in their observances of customs that they refused to so much as light a fire or use the bathroom on the Sabbath. Jesus Christ specifically opposed and defied such false doctrines, particularly by making a point of openly healing on the Sabbath.
5. While some Essenes lived in cities, they were for the most part a reclusive, secretive community that accepted new members only after an arduous yearlong initiation process during which the applicants had to demonstrate their piety. Jesus Christ lived and taught openly among the people and allowed all who were desiring as such to follow Him and be called His disciples.
6. The Essenes rejected being anointed with oil, Jesus Christ allowed Mary Magdalene to do so.
7. The Essenes stressed living by morals, ethics, and the law: Jesus Christ emphasized living by faith.
8. The Essenes imposed a strict caste system by rank. Jesus Christ taught that the first shall be last and the last shall be first.
9. The Essenes had a very elevated opinions of themselves, regarding themselves as the only true righteous that through whom God would act to bring the Messiah into the world and everyone else as apostate and heretical. Jesus Christ took on the status as a humble servant, even to the point of objecting when someone called Him good (righteous) saying that only the Father was righteous.
10. Like the Pharisees, the Essenes held the common people in low regard, as being not sufficiently pious or knowledgeable of the law to be counted worthy of consideration. Those same people were the specific targets of Jesus Christ’s ministry.
Now some of these attempts are to a point understandable, as it has been postulated by those who advocate eastern religions that the Essene sect of Judaism came about due to Jewish exposure to and assimilation of their beliefs and practices philosophy (see Was Jesus An Essene?), and are therefore part of the popular trend of claiming Jesus Christ for their own religion (as even the Pharisees that rejected Him are now doing, see Jews Against Jesus II: Claiming That Jesus Was A Pharisee). But most of the efforts are just outright lies by people who are so zealous in their opposition to Christ that they will knowingly use lies to attempt to dissuade people from it. An example of this, though he did not raise the Essene diversion in particular, was this fellow Lary Crews who posted this comment. In it, he makes the spectacular lie that no first century extrabiblical documents mention Jesus Christ. Of course, it is impossible that such a person has never heard of such an important figure as Flavius Josephus, who wrote of Jesus Christ about 70 AD, so the only possible explanation is that Crews was simply lying and is hoping that Christians would be so poorly educated as to believe him. Crews also claimed that since Jewish philosopher Philo lived during the time of Jesus Christ and never mentioned him that Jesus Christ never existed. Perhaps it is that a Hellenized Jew who lived IN EGYPT and died in 50 AD while Christianity was but a small sect within Judaism (Jews did not cast off and begin to regard Christians as apostates until after 70 AD, when they included a prayer cursing Christians in their synagogue liturgy … the curse remains but the explicit reference to Christians has been removed) that had only recently begun to spread past Judea and Samaria had simply never heard of Him or did not see any reason to pay any special respect towards the existence of what could have easily been perceived as being yet another messianic figure that had been killed by the corrupt Jewish leaders and Rome. And Josephus is not alone; there are many others, and an excellent reference is this document compiled by people that do not believe in Jesus Christ! Proving The Existence of The Historical Jesus Christ contains links by those that do as well.
That is why I keep saying that there is a war going on, saints. Now is not the time to be some passive lover of the world moderate. There are people out there willing to use any lie to cause people to deny Jesus Christ, and not only are these people often in our classrooms, but they are also oft in our pulpits! It is time for real Christians to study and show ourselves approved so that we will be empowered to stand against the craven lies of the enemy. And if you are someone that has been following after these lies that I have exposed for what they are, please Follow The Three Step Salvation Plan, for you now have no excuse!
(Original link here, with its utterly leading headline from this New York Times – owned media outlet.) CAIRO, Egypt: Egyptian authorities have detained two Coptic Christian activists suspected of posting anti-Islamic messages on a Christian web site, a police official and the lawyer for the two said Thursday. State security officers stormed the homes of Adel Fawzy and Peter Ezzat in the Egyptian capital, Cairo, arresting the two on Wednesday and seizing documents and computers, said the police official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media. Fawzy and Ezzat are the founders of the Cairo branch of the Middle East Christian Association, known as MECA, a Canada-based group that advocates Christians rights. Police did not specify which postings had led to the arrest of the two.
Fawzy and Ezzat were expected to face the state prosecutor on Thursday, the police official added. Their lawyer, Mamdouh Nakhleh, said the two worked as a reporter and photographer for the Canada-based organization. He said he believed they would face a hearing as early as Saturday, after the Friday Muslim day of rest.
No charges have been filed yet, Nakhleh told The Associated Press, adding that the two were arrested for “posting stuff without permission.” The authorities allege that they were promoting “deviated Quranic verses and criticism of Islam,” he said.
“I will try to hasten their case before the prosecutor … so they two will not be subjected to any sort of torture or be forced to give any statement that could be harmful in their case,” Nakhleh said.
Cases of torture of suspects inside Egyptian police stations and state security detention centers have drawn much attention after several incidents of police brutality were published on blogs and in local media over the past year.
Meanwhile, a statement on MECA’s Web site said that state security forces broke into and ransacked the homes of Fawzy and Ezzat before arresting them. It said that other members of the organization were targeted and are now in hiding.
The statement added that the organization expects the two would be charged with engaging in missionary work, possession of controversial literature, liaising with foreign organizations and involvement in activities that endanger state security — charges which usually entail heavy prison sentences.
Missionary work can fall under the term of proselytizing, which is illegal under Egyptian law.
The group said the men also may have riled the police in their support for a known Muslim convert to Christianity here. Apostasy is considered a grave sin under Islam.
MECA said its Cairo branch was in the process of being registered legally in Egypt and speculated that authorities may seek ways to block the process. It called on urgent action to free the two men.
Coptic Christians represent about 10 percent of Egypt’s 76 million population and generally live in peace with the Sunni Muslim majority, though occasional sectarian clashes occur.
CAIRO — The government has been concerned over how the Hamas takeover of the Gaza Strip would affect the Islamic opposition in Egypt.Officials and government-sponsored analysts have expressed concern that the Hamas victory would encourage the Islamic opposition to develop military capabilities in an effort to overthrow the regime of President Hosni Mubarak. They said the Interior Ministry has already been examining options against the Muslim Brotherhood, the sponsor of Hamas and the largest opposition group in Egypt.
“The Hamas military victory in Gaza is not what Egypt wanted,” a senior official said. “It makes everything more dangerous.”
The officials said Mubarak has assessed that the Hamas takeover would halt the prospect of a diplomatic breakthrough between Israel and the Palestinian Authority. They said Cairo regarded the Hamas takeover of the Gaza Strip as a victory for Iran and Syria.”In Egypt, there are those seeking to reproduce what Hamas did in the Gaza Strip,” Tariq Hassan, a columnist for the Egyptian state-owned daily Al Ahram said. “For anyone who has the slightest doubt about this and wants proof, it is enough to consider statements by Brotherhood representatives in parliament.”
Hassan said the Hamas victory marked a setback for any Arab country that sought peaceful relations with Israel. The Egyptian analyst said the opposition has compared Cairo to the Palestinian Authority and the Brotherhood to Hamas.
“The Brotherhood holds the same positions and uses the same ideas and statements with which Hamas conducted a coup against the [legitimate] government, and through which it declared the Gaza Strip a rebel region under its rule,” Hassan said.
In April, the Brotherhood began training young men for what officials asserted was a militia. Egyptian authorities arrested more than 30 people after Islamic students held a military-style parade at Al Azhar University that featured the green flag of Hamas.
“For the first time, the Egyptians felt fear when they saw the Al Azhar University students conducting combat displays with the same methods as Hamas, and in the same clothes, with the same slogans and means,” Karam Gabar, chairman of the Egyptian government weekly Ruz Al Yusef, wrote. “The public felt the danger growing under its skin, flowing in its blood, and touching its nerves — a real danger flowing from the depths, and not something imported from abroad.”
Mohammed Al Ibrahim, editor of the state-owned daily Al Gomhouriya, said Hamas comprised the Palestinian branch of the Brotherhood. Al Ibrahim said the Brotherhood was guiding Islamic insurgency groups throughout the world.
“It is possible that Hamas will receive orders from Iran and fulfill them, and then it will drag the region into a destructive total war,” Al Ibrahim said. “It is also possible that Teheran will convince Hamas leaders to repeat Hizbullah’s experience.”
See this link http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/05/AR2007050501081.html. Then please see my earlier post where I predicted that this would happen. Did Robertson endorse Romney? No, but as Romney is aiming to be a “centrist” candidate that is merely amenable to “social conservatives”, then he doesn’t want an endorsement from Pat Robertson anyway, especially after the George W. Bush disaster. In other words, Romney is merely seeking to make sure that A) social conservatives don’t turn out to oppose him, B) he will be able to take some of the social conservative vote away from Mike Huckabee, Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo, Tommy Thompson, and Rick Santorum to make sure that the social conservatives never coalesce around a single candidate in time to make him strong enough to challenge him and Giuliani, and C) there will not be any organized opposition from the Christian right by virtue of either a third party challenge or a “stay at home in protest” in the general election (the way that there was against George H. W. Bush in 1992) should he get the nomination. By calling this deceiver from the false religion that seeks to fill you full of their demons and take you straight to the lake of fire who won’t even talk about what his religion actually believes “a great American” and then allowing him to take the stage and declare that he is running for “commandor in chief and not pastor in chief”, Robertson gave Romney EXACTLY what he was seeking. If this Mormon gets elected President of the United States, it will be because Pat Robertson helped make it possible. Unless he repents of this evil deed, that is something that Christians should NEVER FORGET about Robertson or those like him.
What was so valuable about this Blood of Yeshua HaMashiach? Well please recall that Leviticus 17:11 says that the LIFE is in the blood “For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul. ” From where LIFE comes is where POWER comes, and the POWER is in the Blood. And what is the POWER of the shed Blood of Yeshua HaMashiach? It was the same POWER of the Godhead.
Realize that Yeshua HaMashiach was not born of the seed of man, but of the Holy Spirit. Therefore, His Blood was not the corrupt blood of Adam, but the pure life – giving POWER of GOD. The POWER, the LIFE of the FATHER YHVH, the WORD who on earth was called Yeshua HaMashiach, and the SPIRIT Ruach Hakadosh was COURSING THROUGH THE VEINS OF THE ONE COMMONLY CALLED JESUS CHRIST. Hence, Jesus Christ was fully man because of His Flesh. But He was simultaneously FULLY GOD BECAUSE OF THE BLOOD THAT GAVE LIFE TO THE FLESH. And THAT was why He was without sin. There was no sin in His Flesh because there was no sin in His Blood because His Blood was the Blood, the Life, of the Triune Godhead.
And that, dear people, is why Jesus Christ cannot be the “savior” of any false religion or cult that denies Tri – Unity. If you deny Tri – Unity, Oneness Pentecostals, you cannot explain how the Blood of Yeshua HaMashiach that liberated you was still holy despite Yeshua HaMashiach’s being born of a sinful woman (no Catholics, Mary was not immaculately conceived free of original sin, because her father was a man and not God) and walking the earth as fully man. You cannot explain how the human flesh of Yeshua HaMashiach was free from sin – though He was tempted at every point just as man was – and how despite taking on the sins of every man who ever lived and ever would live, He remained holy. No, He was not simply a manifestation of Father YHVH. No, He was not simply a “relationship”, such as how the same man can be father, son, husband, etc. to someone else. Why? Because were He a manifestation or relationship, He could not have turned His face away from Himself in Heaven while He was dying on the cross. (He also could not have done this were Yeshua HaMashiach a mere PIECE of Himself, the yolk or shell or white of an egg that Oneness Pentecostals now use). Why? Because were that the case, when Yeshua HaMashiach took on sin, then the whole Godhead would have taken on sin. But as only the human temporal flesh of Yeshua HaMashiach took on sin, the rest of the Godhead did not. And as the rest of the Godhead did not, the Blood of Yeshua HaMashiach, the Life and Power of Yeshua HaMashiach, remained pure. And because His Blood remained pure even after He took on sin, He was still blameless. And the power of His still pure Blood was able to raise Him from the dead (Hebrews 13:20 “Now the God of peace, that brought againfrom the deadourLordJesus, that greatshepherd of the sheep,through the blood of the everlastingcovenant.“). If the modalist lies on the nature of God were true, then this would have been impossible, for there would have been no separation between the defilement of sin in the Godhead, and no prevention of the defilement of the Blood. But it is the Triune nature of HaShem that makes this and all things possible!
I am even going to throw an abortion reference in here. For you “life begins at birth, the fetus is part of the mother’s body until the cord is cut” people, explain how in many cases the child of a mother infected with HIV/AIDS is still born healthy? Because the PLACENTA is a BARRIER between the DISEASED blood of the mother and the healthy blood of the child. Were they one person, they would share the same blood, and both would be infected. But because they are different people with different blood with a barrier between the blood of the infant and the blood of the child, then it is possible in many cases for the child to be born healthy. As a matter of fact, it has been shown that a great many cases where a baby receives AIDS from its mother is during the delivery, and the medical community has precautions to prevent that from happening! So just as with a pregnant women you have two – or more – distinct people occupying the same space, the Godhead is three people in one! And realize this: Yeshua HaMashiach was on EARTH. So, when Yeshua HaMashiach took on sin, there was a gulf, a spiritual placenta, between the SIN that Yeshua HaMashiach took on, YOUR SIN, and the Holy Righteous Father. THAT was why the Father was able to turn away. So, modalist, a great many of you are “social conservatives” who oppose abortion. If you can believe that a mother and her unborn child are different persons, why do you reject the same regarding your God?
And as for all of you who claim salvation in a Christ whose divinity you deny, this shows that it does not work. Were Yeshua HaMashiach an angel, Satan’s spirit brother, or the first thing that God the Father created, Yeshua HaMashiach would not have had the Blood and the Power of the Father within Him. Were He merely a man, He would not have had the Life of the Father in Him. Therefore, He would not have been sinless and incorruptible.
Further, realize that the Bible clearly states that the value of a life corresponds to the value of its blood. Study the sacrificial system (Leviticus 4:13-14, 27-28): the blood of a sheep or goat is less value than that of an ox, and the life of a sheep or goat is of less value than an ox. And men? Our lives are worth more than that of any animal (despite what people who would put you in jail TEN YEARS for killing a PUPPY claim), and yes our lives are worth more than the angels that we will judge(I Corinthians 6:3). Why? Because we alone were created in God’s Image. Our lives are more valuable than any other life apart from God’s. That is why no animal’s blood can redeem us. That is why no man’s blood can redeem us. That is why no angel’s blood or created being’s blood can redeem us. Only the Blood of the Pre – existing, Self – existing, eternal God can redeem us.
Only the Blood of God could have resurrected Christ. Only the Blood of God overcome death, hell, and the grave. And only the Blood of God can redeem sinners. Only with the Blood of God is there redemption. Only with the Blood of God is there power. Only with the Blood of God is there reconciliation with God. And it is only the Blood of God that joins us to the spirit of God (I John 5:8, Hebrews 9:14). And without the Blood of God, our faith, our lives, our very existences are in vain, even cursed. And by rejecting the deity of Yeshua HaMashiach and by rejecting the Tri – Unity of Elohim, you are rejecting the very Blood that could and would cover your sins and save and deliver you.
See this link from Apprising Ministries. Why is bringing in practices and beliefs from other religions so addictive to Christians? When did the Bible stop being good enough? This is not a plea to return to the old time “dead ritualistic legalistic” religion (which actually is more and more looking not so bad, at least it won’t take you straight to hell). Look, I am charismatic. I speak in tongues. I promote casting out demons and personally have had many cast out of me. I promote faith healing and have been faith – healed. I believe in prophecy and interpretation. All of those things are 100% biblical. So, Christianity offers you PLENTY of opportunities to be mystical, spiritual, and supernatural. So why go whoring after pagan lies? I will answer: control. Where with charismatic Christianity you have to wait on God’s spirit to move you, paganism offers you the illusion of being in control of your spirituality and your experiences. It offers the false belief that YOU can move GOD. Or those that do not claim that you can control God offer you the promise of power through your own spirit man. Translation: YOU have so much spiritual power and YOU can do so many things on your own in the spirit realm that YOU DO NOT NEED GOD! And that so many of these influential preachers are following after movements that allow you to control your own spiritual life shows that to them, Christianity isn’t about following God, but just a bunch of political and cultural beliefs. Are you “pro – life?” Are you “pro – family”? Are you “tough on crime”? Do you support “a strong national defense”? Do you support “lower taxes, less government, private enterprise, more freedom”? And most of all: “are you a patriotic American who supports democracy and western values?” If you answered yes to all of those questions then congratulations, you are a born – again blood – washed fire baptized Christian on his way to heaven! You do not have to read your Bible. You not have to understand or keep what is in the Bible. You DO have to go to church though (we need your tithes and offerings, of course … and that is the key to YOUR PROSPERITY!). These folks are going around talking about “taking back the culture.” Please. They need to start giving back control over their lives, including their spirituality, to God. You know, maybe the city of San Francisco SHOULD have kept them out. That city has enough problems already without a bunch of people practicing eastern religions while calling themselves Bible – believing Christians descending on their city and provoking God’s wrath with their hypocrisy. I have news for you Christians going around proclaiming the judgment of God upon the entire world: what makes you think that God isn’t going to judge you? What is going to cover your sin? These people out there in the world don’t know better, but you do. You folks who have been going to church all your lives and have those big Bibles lying all over your house: judgment is going to start with YOU. I don’t know where this insanity that you can just go out and do anything that you want because you call yourself saved comes from: is it this “once saved always saved” doctrine or something? Well, you keep on thinking that you can practice another religion and do whatever else you want and be fine just because you said the salvation prayer, got baptized, joined a church, and agree with the Republican Party platform. You are going to keep thinking that right up until judgment day when you find out that you were wrong. You say that I am in error, that I am being the false accuser? OK fine. Show me where I am wrong in the Bible. I will gladly recant and remove all of my posts exposing TD Jakes, Tonex, Rick Warren, and everyone else who is promoting this devilry. It won’t affect me one bit; I don’t mind being wrong and as a matter of fact I LOVE being rebuked, corrected, and reproved with the Word of God. And it would get some of YOU to open your Bibles; even better! But please, none of this “he who is without sin cast the first stone”; “all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, no one is perfect” and “judge not lest ye be judged/take the beam out of your eye first” things where you take out of context and deny the whole Bible, and you only use to justify your sin and the sins of your favorite TV pastor but won’t dare give anyone else the same benefit of the doubt that you are asking God to extend to you. The only difference between a homosexual who has never set foot in a church and a Christian who sits around practicing yoga and doing “Christian” meditation and comtemplative prayer is that THE CHRISTIAN IS THE ONE WHO IS SUPPOSED TO KNOW BETTER. THE CHRISTIAN IS THE ONE WHO HAS THE CAPACITY TO KNOW THAT WHAT HE IS DOING IS WRONG. THE CHRISTIAN IS THE ONE WHO IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO DISCERN DARKNESS FROM LIGHT BECAUSE THE CHRISTIAN IS THE ONE WHO HAS ACCEPTED TRUTH INTO HIS HEART AND SPIRIT BY VIRTUE OF HEARING AND BELIEVING THE GOSPEL AND READING THE BIBLE. Christians need to get out of this false belief that their Christianity makes their sin better and more tolerable than everyone else’s, because the Bible makes it clear that the CONVERSE is true.