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Is The Rider On The White Horse Of Revelation 6:2 Christ Or Anti-Christ?

Posted by Job on March 9, 2011

Revelation 6:1-2 reads “And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.”

The predominant view in modern western fundamentalist and evangelical Christianity is that the rider of the white horse is the anti-Christ. This was my view until very recently, when I read the John Bunyan allegory “Holy War“, which altered, or should I say enhanced, my view of Jesus Christ (more on that later), just as did reading “Pilgrim’s Progress Part 1” changed my view of Christian living and Part II changed my view of the pastorate and of the church.

Allow me to say that this article provides a good reason why the rider on the white horse cannot be the anti-Christ, which is that the four horsemen are released this eschatological figure is not released until the fifth trumpet. The trumpets do not occur until the seventh seal, and the white horse is released by the first seal. So, the white horse comes at or near the beginning of the events of Revelation (presuming a linear timeline with a literal interpretation) while the anti-Christ comes well into those events. Some interpretations deal with this by claiming that the reference in Revelation 6:2 is the anti-Christ’s laying the groundwork, placing everything in order, for his full unveiling to the earth that is described later.

Well, further arguments against the rider being the anti-Christ are given in this article. It deals with how those who propose that the rider is the anti-Christ deal with the fact that white is always used to represent Godly virtue by making the statement that the anti-Christ comes in this manner to deceive people into thinking that he is Jesus Christ. However, this interpretation requires starting with the idea that the rider on the white horse is the anti-Christ, and then making everything else fit, something often called thesis-driven analysis and also called eisegesis. If your starting point was neutral concerning the identity of this character, then his being on a white horse would immediately disqualify your  associating him with the anti-Christ. But if your starting point was his being the anti-Christ, that is when you have to contrive an explanation for the horse being white, one that seems to violate all rules and standards for hermeneutics used for other passages. The question is: “Why is this done?”

It goes back to one’s view of Jesus Christ. The rider of the white horse is given a bow and he went forth to conquer, and conquer he did! Modern, humanistic, enlightenment thinking does not permit viewing Jesus Christ as the Conqueror. That is, at least not until the last day when Jesus Christ comes to judge the nations for their wickedness. That is the one time that the modern church with its man-centered mindset allows Jesus Christ, who as God is the Creator, Owner and Sustainer of the Universe, to be viewed as a conquering ruler. (And for those who believe in the rapture, this happens when the church is already off the scene, and is spared having to deal with Jesus Christ in this role.) In the modern mindset, Jesus Christ can be viewed as the sacrificial lamb, advisor, “co-pilot”, best friend, psychiatrist/psychologist, enabler, helper, moneychanger (prosperity doctrine), mystic/shaman, errand boy, and even romantic lover, but NOT as a conquerer. This stark, authoritarian, militaristic view runs counter to the modernistic Jeffersonian view that exalts such ideas as civil rights, human rights, democracy etc. above all, and needs a Jesus Christ that will bow and be conformed to it. Thus, Jesus Christ as conquerer cannot exist in the mind of the modernist/postmodernist Christian except for a single day when He is forced to execute that role with respect to the wicked. With the exception of that day, Jesus Christ remains in a construct that the modern mind finds acceptable. And according to that construct, where conquest to set up authoritarian rule is undemocratic is evil, this HAS to be the anti-Christ!

It cannot be Jesus Christ according to this mindset, because this mindset makes Jesus Christ a democrat. This Jesus Christ does not conquer. No, this Jesus Christ is standing outside the human heart like a lovesick teenage loverboy knocking on the door waiting, longing, begging for His sweetheart to come in. And it is only when the person that Jesus Christ’s target makes the free will decision to open the door to his or her heart and invite Jesus Christ in that salvation occurs.

For this to happen any other way, uninvited, unasked, and without consent, is tyranny. For Jesus Christ is not a sovereign king who rules by way of His undisputed dominion over the creation that is the work of His own hands for Him to do as He pleases. No, that is tyranny. Such rule is illegitimate, based on the threat of force rather than the consent of the governed! A true, enlightened philosopher king governs not by power or divine right, but by mutual consent! So, the one who stands at the door and knocks and will not come in without the consent of the “pilot” (for Jesus Christ is merely the co-pilot, not the actual pilot who is running the show and is the true master of eternal destiny, which is man’s free will) is Jesus Christ, the genuine article. The conquerer who does not ask permission, who does not gladly (though under submission) come when asked and does not meekly leave when rejected? Now that has to be the anti-Christ! So says the modern Christian mindset.

Thankfully, John Bunyan did not live in modern Enlightenment times! Therefore, Bunyan presents a different Jesus Christ, one that is actually present on the pages of the Bible before all the modern humanist filters and constructs are placed on it. Bunyan’s rather rough allegory presents a kingdom ruled by Shaddai (God the Father), whose most prominent and prized possession is the city Mansoul, which was built by the King Himself. While the modern mindset reared on democracy would revile the idea that a city is the possession of any king, A) this was in fact the custom of monarchs in times past – the kingdom and all in it were their possessions, and in the east the subjects of the “lord-kings” were considered slaves to the lord-king, and remember the Bible is an oriental book, not a western book and B) the Bible was fully written in the mindset of this custom. Mansoul rebelled against King Shaddai due to the provocation and trickery of Diabolus (Satan) and made Satan its king instead, under the false pretense that they could exchange status as slaves under King Shaddai’s rule to free men under his rule. Of course, Diabolus immediately made the residents of Mansoul his slaves, but so thoroughly corrupted and tricked them that they mistook the slavery of Diabolus and sin for liberation. Their delusion was so strong that when King Shaddai sent His captains (difficult to tell in the allegory, my guess is that they are angels) to liberate Mansoul from Diabolus, they resisted with all their might. The story was explicit: when Mansoul was given a multitude of opportunities to make a free will choice for King Shaddai, they rejected King Shaddai each time due to the depths of their depravity.

So, King Shaddai sent His Son, Prince Emmanuel, to recapture Mansoul. In this allegory, Emmanuel did not conquer Mansoul by standing at the door knocking and being invited in. Quite the contrary, He came with an army of soldiers and overcame the recalcitrant Mansoul, who resisted Him with all the force that it could muster – as it was still dedicated and devoted to Diabolus and its own sinful passions – with mighty force. Make no mistake, in this allegory, “and he went forth conquering, and to conquer” Mansoul! After the conquering of Mansoul was done, Prince Emmanuel had the entire town confess that He took the town for Himself as His prize by force; that when the town had the chance – indeed several chances – to yield itself up to the government of the Prince and His Father by choice, they refused each time. So, Mansoul chose the rule of Diabolus, and Prince Emmanuel gained the rule of Mansoul only by overtaking Diabolus, binding him, driving him out, and “spoiling the goods of the strongman” by declaring and setting up His own rule and domain – and through it re-establishing the same of King Shaddai – by force. Mansoul had no say in the matter, because Mansoul, by decree, election and will of God the Father its Owner and Creator – had declared it to be so. Mansoul did not choose Prince Emmanuel, but Emmanuel chose Mansoul (John 15:16).

Now, Jesus Christ as He is commonly depicted in most modern gospel music is not the rider on the white horse. But Jesus Christ as depicted in Holy War and in the Bible may well be. If nothing else, it is something to consider. Another thing to consider: why would the anti-Christ have to go about conquering the world to begin with? According to the words of Jesus Christ, Satan is already the prince of this world (John 14:30)! 2 Corinthians 4:4 declares Satan to be the god of this world, Ephesians 2:2 declares him to be the prince of the powers of the air. So, the anti-Christ does not need to conquer the world. All he needs is to have Satan’s authority transferred to him. Revelation 13:2 says exactly that: “And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as [the feet] of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.” Further, Revelation 17 says that the rulers of the earth GIVE their power to the beast, NOT that he conquers them and takes it from them by force.

This may seem like idle speculation, or an excessive emphasis on “last things” when other issues concerning orthodoxy and orthopraxy are more pressing: “minoring in the majors.” However, one’s view of last things often casts a shadow on one’s belief. Many theological liberals and “moderates” de-emphasize predictive prophecy because of an anti-supernatural bias. Others use apocalyptic texts to promote the political and social causes that are near and dear to them. And many Christians are attracted to the rapture doctrines because of their desire not to suffer persecution and rejection by the world as Christ suffered the same.

In a similar fashion, the idea that the anti-Christ is the conquerer on the white horse reveals the mindset of a great many Christian theologians, preachers, and laymen concerning the doctrine of original sin. So many Christians SAY that they believe in original sin, or even total depravity, but by adhering to such interpretations as this, it really does imply otherwise. If original sin is true, if total depravity is true, then why is it that Jesus Christ comes only by willing invitation, and the anti-Christ only by force? Is that not backwards? If the anti-Christ, the beast is “the man of sin”, then the fallen, wicked world, if it is not his already, will freely, gladly accept him as one of their own, a kindred spirit! Again, why would a sinful world oppose and resist a man of sin? Why would they not accept him and instead need to be conquered by him? Only if there is some inherent virtue, inherent goodness in him that would cause him to resist the evil rather than accept it.

The idea that the anti-Christ would have to conquer is based on the notion that man is basically good; that the nations are basically good. And is that not what so many seem to adhere to because of their political, cultural and social beliefs? That the nations – especially the pro-western capitalist democracies – are good, and only the exceptions – the anti-democratic, anti-western, authoritarian regimes – are bad.

Isn’t it curious how most of the theories about where the anti-Christ will come is from the “bad” nations? First it was from the “bad” communist regimes. Then it was from the “bad” secular humanist socialist United Nations or European Union. Now speculation centers on the “bad” Islamic regimes. The idea that the anti-Christ could come from – gasp! – America, the shining city on a hill, the nation founded on Christianity and is a beacon of freedom and goodness? Well, MAYBE, but only if he is not really one of us like Obama!

Again, it is based on the idea that there is some inherent virtue in man, and some inherent virtue in what man builds. It is based on a rejection of original sin, a rejection of total depravity. Even the very idea that Satan takes over the earth and installs the anti-Christ only when the church departs after the rapture is based on the notion that Satan is not the god of this world at present! Ironically, people who adhere to this belief are de facto amillennalists believing that rather than being the god of this world in this present age, Satan is currently bound by the church’s presence.

So many Christians who profess to be evangelical or fundamentalist and profess a belief in original sin based on the actions of Adam only apply that doctrine to soteriology. They only apply mankind’s fallen nature to the individual human soul! But when it comes time to apply it to a larger scale, they shrink back! Why? Because of their love of this present world and the things in it! To those people, James 4:4′s “Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God” applies to liking MTV and the New York Times editorial page and not the entire fallen worldly system! The parts of the world they like, they consider it good, moral, even Christian. It is only the part that they are alienated from, usually because of political or cultural considerations, that they consider to be “worldly.”

But go back to the text and view it in context. Yes, Revelation concerns the last days. But the letter to the Hebrews – and elsewhere in the New Testament – declares that the last days began after the work of Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ was the fulfillment of God’s plan and the high point of the history of creation. So, the last days – the time period that Revelation concerns itself with – is not merely the last seven years, the “great tribulation.” Instead, it concerns itself with the entire endtimes, which is now, and has been since Pentecost. That is why the letters to the churches are the first part of the Revelation. They are not introductory material to set the stage for the eschatology. Instead, they are part and parcel of the eschatology!

In that context, note that the white horse and its rider come first. It is the first seal! So, after the heavenly visions in Revelation 4-5, the white horse and its rider are the first thing that we encounter when the events shift back earthward in Revelation 6. So, why not strongly associate the white horse and rider with Jesus Christ speaking to and walking amongst the churches in Revelation 2-3? Were the material in Revelation to be arranged topically (i.e. with the things happening in heaven all together and the things happening on earth all together), that is exactly how it would appear … Revelation 6:1-2 would immediately follow the challenge to the Laodicean church!

So then, why not consider the possibility that the rider on the white horse given the bow and the crown and goes about conquering (and as this article states he does not obtain or use these things illegitimately in a manner that is against God’s will … such ideas are missing from the text) is going about to foreign lands conquering souls of sinners for God the Father? Did not Jesus Christ say in the Olivet discourse (i.e. Matthew 24:14) that the end will not come until His gospel is preached in all the world for a witness to all nations? Well, in Revelation 6, though it is certainly the last days, the end is not yet come! So, me must consider that the rider on the white horse is none other than Prince Emmanuel enlarging the domain of King Shaddai through the conquest of souls in every tribe and nation that are hardened with the total depravity of original sin.

Granted, this article does state that the rider is the Holy Spirit, not Jesus Christ. I disagree, but for my purposes the distinction is not a great one, as Jesus Christ sent the Holy Spirit in His Name to complete His Work through the church which is Jesus Christ’s Body, and the Holy Spirit is the One who performs regeneration. Instead, the main point is to consider the strong possibility that man-centered, humanistic thinking is the reason why the rider on the white horse was ever called the anti-Christ to begin with, especially when one has to be very inconsistent in one’s interpretation of Revelation and the Bible in general to arrive at that viewpoint.

Of course, the main point is that Jesus Christ is returning to judge the world and all its people for their wickedness. The only way to escape this judgment that is certainly to come at a time in the future that has been predetermined by God the Father is to be saved through Jesus Christ. If you have not been, I urge and entreat you that you would be so; that you too would be a conquest of Jesus Christ as was I.

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National Religious Broadcasters Using Oneness Modalist Heretic TD Jakes To Get Out The Vote

Posted by Job on May 12, 2008

Driving to work this morning viewing the effects of the terrible thunderstorms that spared my neighborhood but hard hit the one right next to mine, I was listening to Christian radio. Out of the blue comes TD Jakes’ booming voice. In it, he first speaks of how much he loves America and so forth. I immediately thought of Jakes doing this to exploit anger over Barack Hussein Obama, Michelle Obama, and Jeremiah Wright’s considerably less than jingoistic statements and actions. Then he went into his exhortation spiel for people to register and get out to vote. 

First, I see Lifeway Bookstores, owned by the Southern Baptist Convention, selling TD Jakes’ doctrinal error (oneness pentecostalism and the Word of Faith/prosperity doctrine are but a few of his MANY problems) and now the National Religious Broadcasters are using this guy. I had been using the NRB as a sort of a refuge from the blatant charismania that you will find on The Word Network, Trinity Broadcasting Network, Daystar, etc. So I just ignored the heavy Pat Robertson presence on the channel, as well as their “white Europeans are the descendants of the children of Israel … the Danube River is so named because of the tribe of Dan” show that comes on early in the morning. I also ignored their embrace of the Ellen White Seventh Day Adventist cult. So I suppose that I cannot cast NRB aside on Jakes’ account, since the ones that I just named are hardly better – if anything some might be worse – or else I would be reacting out of a personal dislike for Jakes rather than on principle. (On the other hand, Slice of Laodicea has criticized NRB, albeit for different reasons, such as this post stating that not one red cent of NRB’s $5 BILLION IN ASSETS is being used to defend the faith from Oprah Winfrey.)

Incidentally, speaking of TD Jakes and PR spots, he has another one out (I did not catch the sponsor!) promoting single sex education, saying that “boys need their own schools so that they will be able to, you know, romp and stuff (his choice of words not mine!) and that boys learn differently from girls and needed their own classrooms in order to be accommodated. So … it looks like Jakes is not that far removed from Jeremiah Wright’s separatist doctrines after all? 

I have to be honest, back when I was part of the religious right and allowing my worldview to be shaped by the Washington Times and the National Review, I was in full agreement. But now … I just recall reading about this inner city public school that went all male. Sure, the discipline problems decreased and the test scores went up. But when they interviewed the boys that attended the school, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WANTED THEM TO BRING THE GIRLS BACK! Why? Because, er … BOYS LIKE GIRLS! Or at least they are supposed to anyway. Perhaps now that T.D. Jakes is on board with the new world order’s gay rights agenda (and yes this is relevant … perhaps due to his son) he thinks it is OK. To me, the whole single sex education thing … who wants it? Certainly not the kids. Not the administrators or teachers. Parents go for it only because they are desperate for any hook or angle to improve the failing school systems that the government is ruining on purpose. Not even the old fashioned religious sorts – of which I am one – think that it is a good idea anymore, where you were supposed to keep boys and girls separate in their little boarding or finishing schools (where they were supposed to look OH SO CUTE in their little uniforms I guess) UNTIL GRADUATION DAY WHEN YOU MARRY THEM OFF.

Sorry people, but society has changed. Not all of the changes have been for the good, but methinks that one of the most important things for a boy to learn from school is how to treat a lady and how to behave yourself in their presence. For some of us guys, those things do not come naturally, and you only learn them through trial and error. Especially error. (If you don’t learn to handle competition and rejection in junior high and high school, how on earth are you supposed to handle being turned down for jobs, promotions, college choices, etc. later in life?) So … HOW ON EARTH ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO LEARN THOSE THINGS IF THERE ARE NO GIRLS AROUND TO LEARN THEM FROM? 

Like I said, TD Jakes may have his own reasons for wanting to turn your local public school into Morehouse College or similar, and whatever they are I oppose them 100%. All the more reason why the Southern Baptist Convention should not be selling this guy’s books and NRB shouldn’t be using him for their get out the vote campaign. But I suppose that this oneness anti – Trinitarian heretic is just too good at making money and moving public opinion for these people to pass up. That is, unless they are actually along with Jakes, on his side. After all, the Southern Baptists refuse to do anything about the likes of New Age heretic Erwin McManus and Council on Foreign Relations worker Rick Warren (and Richard Land too?), and as stated earlier, Al Sharpton Al Gore global warming propagandist partner Pat Robertson is a major partner with the NRB. 

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John McCain Accepts The Endorsement Of Heretic John Hagee!

Posted by Job on February 28, 2008

First Huckabee, then McCain, who was on record in 1999 as stating that he did not want to overturn Roe v. Wade. McCain also has a long record of opposing many of the things on Hagee’s political and religious agendas. This just proves that the guy who denies the Messiahship of Jesus Christ, claims that Jesus Christ was killed by Rome for His political beliefs,prophesied that the United States would attack Iran in 2007 (and is still demanding that we attack Iran!) and preaches dual covenant theology is simply in it for the power and money.

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Oh Gee What A Surprise: Roman Catholics Trying To Start Secular Christian Values Charter Schools

Posted by Job on February 19, 2008

Still more evidence that conservative Protestant evangelicals have been taken for a ride by Rome.

D.C. may get 7 ‘values-based’ schools – USATODAY.com

For Catholic schools in the nation’s capital, it’s feast and famine these days.

Donors have helped the Archdiocese of Washington pump $60 million into its schools in the past decade. In 2004, Congress approved a $14 million voucher that paid tuition last year for more than 1,900 students.

But as in other big cities, shifting demographics have drained D.C. of families who want to send their kids to Catholic schools, even when it’s free. And Congress, which is controlled by Democrats, probably won’t renew the voucher program.

Meanwhile, the city is at the heart of the USA’s quiet love affair with privately run, publicly financed charter schools: One in five D.C. students attend a charter.

Faced with a $55 million long-term deficit and the looming closure of nearly half its schools, the archdiocese awaits approval of an unusual proposal: converting a handful of schools to secular “values based” charter schools that reflect Catholic morality but don’t overtly teach church doctrine.
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The bid represents the largest of its kind so far — and though it stands a good chance of approval by the D.C. Public Charter School Board in April, it’s opposed by the National Catholic Education Association (NCEA), which says the schools will lose their greatest strength: their religious character.

“This isn’t a path for everyone,” says archdiocese spokeswoman Susan Gibbs. “But we look around at other dioceses and they close their doors. We couldn’t do that.”

An independent, non-profit board would run the seven proposed elementary schools, with no teaching of Catholic doctrine, no in-school prayer and no religious artifacts on the walls. In fact, none of the proposed charters would be considered “Catholic” schools. Essentially the archdiocese would act as a landlord.

In that sense, it’s similar to arrangements in places such as Buffalo, and Gary, Ind., where church schools have been transformed into non-religious charters.

“We’re sad that they can’t be Catholic schools,” NCEA president Karen Ristau says of the D.C. proposal. “There will be no religious doctrine or celebration of faith or prayer in the school day.”

Though charters enjoy freedom from most regulations on personnel, curriculum, budget and teaching methods, Ristau says religious instruction is still out. “As far as I know, there’s no wiggle room.”

In the past few years, charter schools in Florida, Minnesota and New York that have approached the line between values-based learning and religious instruction have run afoul of critics who say they’re ignoring the U.S. Constitution’s prohibition on government sponsorship of religion.

Ristau calls proposals such as D.C.’s “a temporary solution to a serious problem” facing churches across the nation. Recent data from Georgetown University’s Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate finds that though the percentage of Americans who are Catholic has remained steady since 1995, the number of Catholic elementary schools dropped about 10%; secondary schools have dropped 2.3%.

“At a time when we’re all trying to figure out how to create good public schools in the inner city, it’s a shame that good public schools in the inner city are going away,” says Mike Petrilli of the Thomas B. Fordham Foundation, a Washington education think tank.

Gibbs says the archdiocese is keeping its options open. If neighborhoods change, she says, “We still have the buildings. … In 10 years, we may want to open a Catholic school again.”

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JAMES DOBSON ENDORSES MORMON MITT ROMNEY!

Posted by Job on February 6, 2008

I first saw this here but it was confirmed in this devotional as well. Man oh man, I love this election season. So many prominent Christian leaders in the limelight are being exposed for what they are. From the people backing Huckabee despite knowing his connections to the Council on Foreign Relations and to apostates like Kenneth Copeland and John Hagee to Pat Robertson backing Giuliani to the MANY evangelicals and even some fundamentalists backing Mormon Mitt Romney to Donnie McClurkin and many other leading black Christians backing Barack HUSSEIN Obama (here, here, here, here, here, here) well the Lord is exposing for the whole world to see what these prominent Christians are really about and after – the things of this world.Christians, is this the falling away of the American church? If so, make sure that you are not part of that falling away. In a sense, things have been this bad for quite awhile, because the fact that Martin Luther King, Jr. was no better than a Mormon because he did not believe in the deity or resurrection of Jesus Christ despite it being commonly reported … so many people do not know because they do not care to know. And never forget: King’s rise was due to so many alleged Christians, many of them evangelicals and fundamentalists, supporting segregation and racism! Still, I regularly ask some older (than me) Christians have things always been this bad, and even the ones that personally experienced segregation and poverty say without hesitation “No, it wasn’t.”

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“The word of the LORD came to me: “Son of man, prophesy against the
shepherds of Israel; prophesy and say to them: ‘This is what the Sovereign
LORD says: Woe to the shepherds of Israel who only take care of themselves!
Should not shepherds take care of the flock? You eat the curds, clothe
yourselves with the wool and slaughter the choice animals, but you do not
take care of the flock. You have not strengthened the weak or healed the
sick or bound up the injured. You have not brought back the strays or
searched for the lost. You have ruled them harshly and brutally. So they
were scattered because there was no shepherd, and when they were scattered
they became food for all the wild animals. My sheep wandered over all the
mountains and on every high hill. They were scattered over the whole earth,
and no one searched or looked for them.” Ezekiel 34:1-6

A sad commentary on so many pastors and Christian leaders right from God’s
Word. Last week I was doing some study in the Book of Ezekiel. In reading
through some passages, I came across these first 6 verses in Ezekiel 34. As
I read these words, I could only think that this was the sad description of
so many pastors and Christian leaders today. 50 years ago, you could sit in
the pew of most any church of any denomination and hear the Truth of God’s
Word. Those pastors and the men and women God raised up on the national
scene were men and women who would never compromise the Truth of the Bible
and understood their only mission was to bring the lost to Christ.

Fast forward to the year 2008 and you have entire denominations of pastors
who don’t even preach, teach or believe the Bible. It is questionable if
many pastors were ever “called” and are even saved. Those who have risen up
into national prominence are more worried about selling books, having the
newest private jet, building bigger buildings, and living like the rulers of
small nations rather than preaching the unadulterated Truth of the Bible and
leading the lost to faith in Jesus Christ. My goodness, you now have
so-called Christian leaders who are endorsing and working for the member of
a satanic cult to become our next President!!!

When these are the men and women leading the people, why are we surprised
that many who sit in the pews of the nations churches on Sunday aren’t even
saved, don’t accept the Bible as Absolute Truth and our only authority, and
the majority of the ones who do lead weak and ineffective lives. That is
why I encourage people all the time to seek out a pastor who is a true
shepherd. That is increasingly difficult today, but there are still many
men of God who have not bowed their knee to Baal and are not the shepherds
described in Ezekiel 34. Sunday is the day most Christians go to church. It
is the only time most of you ever see your pastor, and that is usually from
your seat in the sanctuary as he leads the worship service and preaches the
message.

Having preached in over 500 churches of every denomination nationwide, I can
honestly tell you that for most pastors, Sunday morning is their favorite
day of the week and the one day they usually feel their work for God really
has some meaning. You can never know the pressure most pastors are under. If
it was only getting up on Sunday morning and being the “man of God” it would
be wonderful, but that is not reality. It is a 7-day a week, 24-hour a day
calling. Many have outside jobs. There is the constant pressures of raising
the budget, dealing with the interpersonal problems that always exist when
you have a group of people, overseeing the political infighting that often
occurs, on top of the spiritual requirements of shepherding the flock,
having an anointed word each week for the various services, and other
requirements the office of pastor carries with it.

My prayer for you today is to support your pastor. Pray for your pastor each
day. John 10 gives us the picture of the ideal pastor. Pray that your pastor
will be able to tear away from the distractions of this world to be the
shepherd described in John 10. God has placed that pastor in your life to
guide you, spiritually nurture you, and have spiritual leadership over your
life. Do all you can to show your love and appreciation for all your pastor
does for you, most of which you may not even recognize. Also, God has placed
your pastor in your life for spiritual leadership. When you come into times
of crisis, don’t hesitate to go to your pastor. That is ultimately why they
are there, to help you and guide you through those difficult times in your
life.

I love you and care about you so much. I pray for you daily. Sadly, today
there are too many pastors and Christian leaders who fall into the
description found in Ezekiel 34. It makes the work that much more difficult
when you have people running around calling themselves Christians, but
supporting sins like abortion, homosexuality, the destruction of God’s plan
fo the family. You have others who think there is nothing wrong with
belonging to a cult or false religions and they have bought the
universalistic lie from hell that everyone will get to Heaven.

Let this message today be a remember to lift up your pastor in prayer and
recognize him for all he does for your life. God has called His sheep to be
obedient and obey those in spiritual authority. Take inventory and see if
you are fulfilling this admonition, and ask God to help you. He loves you so
much, that he has placed your pastor in your life to shepherd you and guide
you in your spiritual journey. Show your love for Him today by praying for
and supporting your pastor.

In His love and service,
Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller bkeller@liveprayer.com

***ARE YOU 100% CERTAIN WHERE YOU WILL SPEND ETERNITY? The fact is you will
die one day. At that moment, you will either spend eternity with the Lord or
be cast into everlasting darkness forever separated from God your creator.
To know for certain you will be forever with Jesus, go to:
http://www.liveprayer.com/bdy_salvatn.cfm

***I am excited to let you know that the Liveprayer Daily Devotional is now
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The Sad Truth About Mormon President Gordon B. Hinckley And The 200 Year Old Mormon Plot To Take Over America’s Government

Posted by Job on January 29, 2008

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My note: This devotional was written by pastor and televangelist Bill Keller of Live Prayer. I had decided to stop posting Bill Keller’s devotionals that dealt with Mormonism for a time for reasons that I will not get into. But after seeing Glenn Beck exploit the death of Hinckley as an opportunity to promote his religion on CNN last night, I am making a one time exception to my policy. Please note: Keller is right when he says that there is no difference between Mormonism and Islam. So why is the religious right so much more tolerant of one than the other? You know that if Mitt Romney were Muslim, he’d have the same “he is part of a global Muslim conspiracy to take over our government” theories as are circulating about Barack HUSSEIN Obama. I will tell you the reason: race. Mormonism was founded by whites and in America is an overwhelmingly white religion, so they are not only tolerated by the religious right, but are fully embraced by them. Meanwhile, Islam is an Arab religion. That is why the same religious right hypocrites that went nuts over Keith Ellison merely being elected to Congress are actually praying for Mitt Romney to save them from Mike Huckabee, Rudy Giuliani, and John McCain (not that I support any of them either by the way). The way these conservatives, especially Roman Catholics, are claiming that Mitt Romney is the victim of oh so much bigotry after decades of using racism and segregation against BLACKS to build their own party would be hilarious if it wasn’t so evil. (By the way, check out this Roman Catholic pro – segregation site that claims that God never intended for Christianity to spread outside the white race … surprise surprise they like Romney.) It was as if they were saying “Hey evangelicals, Romney is one of us where it really counts, so vote your race, it is more important than your religion!” That is why the same folks on the right who continuously demand that blacks bear the discrimination that we face while picking and grinning about it start braying like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and the NAACP whenever Romney’s religion is discussed in any terms other than “oh we can trust Romney to save America because he is a devoted Mormon who believes in Jesus with a beautiful wife and five sons.” Well, again, anyone who doubts that Romney would use the White House to promote his faith not only in America but also overseas (the people that they falsely claim are the cursed seed of Ham and for that reason held them in second class status until 1978 – a fact which conservatives love I bet – apparently are a major mission field for them!) should view Glenn Beck’s performance below.

An evil tool of satan masquerading as a Godly grandfather is buring in hell
for all eternity! Gordon B. Hinckley, the leader of the satanic Mormon cult
is dead at 97. Hinckley saw this cult grow from 9 million members to over
13 million members worldwide during his 12-year reign as its leader. While
Hinckley is already being memorialized as a “great man of God,” the fact is
his life has been an instrument in the hands of satan to help lead the souls
of men to hell by following the false theology of the Mormon cult.

Many people, even Christians will rail against me for being so unkind, but
this only illustrates the problem we have. Even Believers don’t take the
eternal souls of men serious enough. As I state often, this is a battle for
souls. Satan is not playing games and is serious about taking as many souls
into the lake of fire with him as he can. I am saddened at how many
Christians either don’t understand, or don’t want to think about the FACT
that those who die without Jesus, the Jesus of the Bible, will pass from
this life into eternal punishment!

I know some people are outraged that I would be “so mean” to call Mormonism
a satanic cult. I receive emails all the time talking about the great works
they do. First, I have no doubt that most Mormons are fine people, good
people, and do great works. But being a good person and doing good works
does NOT get you into Heaven. Only faith in Jesus Christ, the Jesus of the
Bible, will get you into Heaven. The Mormon cult spends tens of millions of
dollars each year in public relations to portray themselves as “just another
Christian church.”

DO NOT LET THEIR ADS FOOL YOU. They are no more a Christian church than your
local mosque is!

The lie of Mormonism that I expose is not a new problem. Paul, himself, had
to deal with the issue of “cults”-those who perverted the Gospel-almost from
the very beginning. He spoke of it often in his writings, as in today’s
anchor verses in his letter to the church at Galatia. This is nothing new.

Here are just a few of the theological issues that makes the satanic Mormon
cult totally inconsistent with Biblical Christianity and why a Mormon is no
more a Christian than a Muslim is. The god of the Mormon cult is NOT the God
of the Bible. Their “god” is named Elohim and was once a man like you and I
who came from another planet. Mormon theology teaches that men can
eventually become a god and have their own planet. When a Mormon talks about
“god,” he is talking about this fictitious god of Mormonism and NOT the God
of the Bible!

This holds true for Jesus. The jesus of Mormon theology is not God incarnate
as the Bible teaches. The Mormon jesus was not supernaturally conceived by
the Holy Ghost, but the natural offspring of their “god” Elohim who had sex
with Mary, meaning he is a created being no different than you and I.
Mormons also teach that their jesus had several wives and children, again,
in compete contradiction to what the Bible teaches. The jesus of the Mormon
cult is also the spirit brother of Lucifer and will return not to the Mt. Of
Olives as the Bible teaches, but to Independence, Missouri to set up his
earthly Kingdom.

When a Mormon talks about “jesus,” he is NOT talking about the true Jesus of
the Bible! What Jesus you put your faith in is so critical, since this is
why anyone who puts their faith in the imaginary jesus of Joseph Smith and
the satanic Mormon cult will die in their sins and their souls burn forever
in the flames of hell!

What about the Bible and true Christian churches? Mormons love to use the
Bible and quote from the Bible to support their deception that they are
Christians. The trademark of all cults and false religions, even those who
use the Bible, is that it is NOT their final authority. In the Mormon cult,
their authority does not come from the Bible which they view as incomplete
and not reliable, but the writings of Smith, the Book of Mormon, the Pearl
of Great Price, and the Doctrine and Covenants. These are the writings that
form the false theology of this cult.

Mormons believe that non-Mormons are “abominations.” While they don’t have
the guts the Muslims do to publicly call a non-Muslim an infidel who should
be put to death, a Mormon views a Biblical Christian as part of a “false
religion” and void of all authority.

Like in all cults, the average member hasn’t got a clue what their cult
really believes. You only get to know everything after you have proven
yourself to be a loyal and worthy member of the cult. That is true in the
Mormon cult as well. Most Mormons go to their “church,” sing many of the
same hymns they sing at the Baptist church down the road, give their tithe,
read a few passages out of the Bible, hear a message about being a “good
person,” and go home.

It is only when you get to become a “temple Mormon” that you really learn
all of the deep, dark, beliefs of Mormonism. The Mormon temple rituals are
actually little more than the temple rituals Smith copied from another cult,
Freemasonry! Smith who was involved in the Masonic cult, simply copied and
incorporated their chants, handshakes, and ceremonies when he started the
Mormon cult. These are the same chants, handshakes, and ceremonies Romney
participated in when he took his oath to the Mormon cult above anything
else, INCLUDING THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AND CONSTITUTION!

The average person has no idea that the ultimate goal of the Mormon cult is
to establish a theocracy here in the United States. Joseph Smith, the cult’s
founder actually ran for the Presidency. So did Mitt Romney’s father. This
cult has the very real goal of establishing the “Kingdom of God,” which
means advancing the physical and earthly organization of the multi-billion
dollar Mormon cult.

There is a special room in the Mormon Temple located in Washington, DC that
has been prepared and in place for over 30 years, which will be the seat of
power for the Mormon-led government which will supplant our current
government. This was the vision Smith laid out less than 200 years ago, and
Mitt Romney and those in the hierarchy and leadership of the Mormon cult see
this as the time for that vision to become fulfilled!

I love you and care about you so much. Gordon B. Hinckley was NOT a great
“man of God,” but simply a tool of satan who used his life to lead millions
to the false teachings of the Mormon cult, meaning those poor souls died in
their sins and are in hell for all eternity along with all who reject the
Jesus of the Bible. He did not become a “god” upon his death as Mormons
believe. He didn’t get his own planet full of women waiting to have sex with
him. The moment he died, Hinckley stood before God and because he rejected
Jesus and died in his sins, was immediately cast into hell for all eternity!

I have done my best in a limited amount of time to give you a brief overview
of the false and satanic beliefs of the Mormon cult. I have just barely
scratched the surface, but just in what I have shared with you today, NOBODY
in their right mind could ever believe that a Mormon is a Christian. When
you study Mormon theology and understand the wild beliefs of Smith and this
cult, you need faith greater than I will ever hope to have to believe what
they do. There is no logic to it and there is absolutely nothing they
believe that has any basis in realty or can be proven.

Listen, God gave us free will, and men who live in rebellion to God since
the very beginning have dreamed up the wildest and most ridiculous religions,
and sadly people who were spiritually void chose to believe their lies and
will be lost for all eternity because of it. The danger of Mormonism is that
they are deceptive (just look at their name, the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter Day Saints) and will lie without conscience just like the father of
lies, satan (John 8:44), to get people to join their cult.

I pray today for those 13 million souls alive today who are following the
lies of this cult, to turn from those lies before they take their last
breath and are lost for all eternity. There is only one Truth, and that is
found in the book God wrote, the Bible. There is only one way to be saved,
and that is through a personal relationship by faith with the Jesus of the
Bible. May those lost in the lies of the Mormon cult denounce those lies
and turn to God’s Word alone and faith in Jesus and be saved so they don’t
end up burning in hell like Gordon B. Hinckley!!!

In His love and service,
Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller bkeller@liveprayer.com

***ARE YOU 100% CERTAIN WHERE YOU WILL SPEND ETERNITY? The fact is you will die one day. At that moment, you will either spend eternity with the Lord or be cast into everlasting darkness forever separated from God your creator. To know for certain you will be forever with Jesus, go to:
http://www.liveprayer.com/bdy_salvatn.cfm

***I am excited to let you know that the Liveprayer Daily Devotional is now
available via AUDIO each day. Simply go to http://www.liveprayer.com/Audio.cfm
Also, you can now listen to the Daily Devotional by phone by calling 1-727-342-5673

(C) Copyright 2008, Bill Keller Ministries. All rights reserved.

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Ann Coulter: Cultural Apostate Christian Matthew 6:24

Posted by Job on January 23, 2008

Note: in addition to the Bill Keller devotional below, I made a similar point in Jesus Christ Is Not Your Culture. Also note that I went after Coulter’s political dual covenant theology in Anne Coulter: Heretic! If you are a supporter of Ann Coulter because of her political beliefs, please know that Jesus Christ comes before worldly politics. Also, sharing Ann Coulter’s political beliefs in some areas may cause you to wonder which are actually supported by the Bible and which are of men.

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The danger of those who call themselves followers of Christ, but live in
rebellion to Him! Is our allegiance to Christ or this temporal world?
Well, another high profile person who has used her Christianity to sell lots
of books has decided to publicly endorse the member of a satanic cult for
President. The loud, out-spoken, and over-the-top Ann Coulter has
officially endorsed Mormon cult member Mitt Romney for President. I can’t
judge her heart regarding her salvation, only God can do that. But given
the fact she has publicly declared that she is a born-again follower of
Christ, especially due to the fact she chose to use her Christianity to
promote herself and her books to the Christian populace, Ann is clearly a
spiritual baby in need of sitting under solid Biblical teaching to grow in
her faith.

Coulter represents this growing number of people who I call “Cultural
Christians.” They may have accepted Christ as their Savior and are saved,
but have grown very little from that point on. While being followers of
Christ, they are also very attached to this temporal world that we live in.
Sadly, the world affects their thoughts and actions more than the Word of
God does. They love the benefits of being a Christian, but have never grown
enough in their faith to understand the sacrifice that is required of a
follower of Christ. They like being a Christian, but they also like being
in this world. These cultural Christians are the very people Jesus spoke of
when he stated in Matthew 6:24, “”No one can serve two masters. Either he
will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and
despise the other.”

Listen, I know Ann Coulter is a political commentator and pundit who is best
known for her shtick of over the top rhetoric that sets her writings apart
from most others in the conservative movement. If Ann Coulter as a
political pundit wants to endorse Mitt Romney or anyone else, that is up to
her. Here is the problem. Because of the large number of Christians who
are active in politics and sympathetic to the conservative movement, years
ago Coulter found a rich vein of consumers for her books when she stated she
was a Christian and began to get opportunities to speak at high profile
Christian ministries like Coral Ridge, founded by the late D. James Kennedy,
Liberty University, founded by the late Dr. Jerry Falwell, and other highly
visible forums that reach out to Christians. In identifying herself as a
Believer and cashing in on her Christianity, comes a responsibility to take
a stand for the faith.

My friend, endorsing a man for President who lives and believes the
heretical and blasphemous teachings of Joey Smith and has become the
international poster boy for this nearly 200 year old satanic cult leading
the souls of millions of people to hell for all eternity is not taking a
stand for the faith but selling out the faith!!!

In her release announcing her endorsement of Romney for President, Coulter
naively states, “So having a candidate with a wacky religion isn’t all bad.”
I will give her the benefit of the doubt that she is simply a baby Christian
who has never grow much past her salvation experience, since Mormonism is
far more hideous than a “wacky religion.” It is a lie that is literally
leading the souls of men to hell. Coulter doesn’t understand that a vote
for Romney is tantamount to a vote for satan himself since a Romney
Presidency will influence millions worldwide to seek out the Mormon cult,
buy into their deception since they never tell people what they really
believe until long after they are hooked, and ultimately those souls will
die and end up burning in hell for all eternity since the only way to be
saved is by faith in Jesus Christ. Not the faux jesus of Joey Smith, but
the real Jesus of the Bible!

Sadly, Coulter is just the latest in a growing list of high profile
Christian leaders and politicos who identify themselves as Christians, to
sell out the faith for whatever short-term political access they may
receive. People like Jay Sekulow, Ralph Reed, Mark DeMoss, Paul Weyrich,
Bob Jones III, are just a few who have literally become Judases for selling
out Christ to back this satanic cult member. These people have literally
become tools of satan since they use their influence over millions to help
other Christians justify supporting a cult member for President. Like
Coulter, they have become the defenders of Romney to help people justify why
it is OK to ignore the spiritual implications of electing the member of a
satanic cult to the most powerful office in the world. I assure you, God
WILL hold them accountable for their actions one day.

Let me just say that I have heard every tortured argument there is to
justify backing Romney for President. My friend, the ends never justify the
means. Even if you believe this is the only man on the planet who can lead
this nation and that during his time in office he will do many great and
wonderful things, it still doesn’t negate the potential millions of souls
who will end up in hell because of the influence he will carry in that
position. Those who defend Romney or who simply haven’t got a clue about
spiritual things like Bill O’Reilly, think it is paranoia to extrapolate a
Romney Presidency into people joining the Mormon cult. Due to the fact we
have the largest percentage of two full generations who have never been to
church, coupled with the aggressive evangelistic efforts of the Mormon cult,
throwing in the influence the office of President carries worldwide, I can
guarantee you that this cult will grow like a wildfire worldwide, leading
the souls fo these new converts to hell.

The message to you in all of this is that you need to choose who your master
is. Is your master Jesus or this world? You can’t have two masters. The
reason there is such a thing as the “Christian left,” churches who accept
and condone sins like abortion and homosexuality, pastors who never give an
altar call, Christian leaders supporting a satanic cult member’s bid for the
Presidency, is because too many Christians never understood that when they
gave their life to Christ, it was no longer their life. It belongs to Him.
We are no longer of this world. We live in this world, but are just passing
through. Our thoughts and desires, goals and passions are no longer tied to
this temporal existence, but to our eternal life with Christ. As a
Christian, you are His follower, His ambassador. Your life is to serve Him.
You can’t serve Christ when you are serving satan!!!

I love you and care about you so much. Pray for Ann. I have no idea where
or if she goes to church, how she is fed spiritually if at all, whose if any
teaching she is under. She owes the Christian community a huge apology.
She decided to cash in on her Christianity which is fine. However, in so
doing she took on the responsibility to honor Christ with her life. It is
inconsistent for a follower of Christ to endorse or support in any way
someone who is part of a cult that operates in rebellion to God and His
Truth and is leading the souls of men to hell. It is pretty simple, do you
serve Jesus or this world?

I will be praying for you as well. It is so easy for Believers who live in
this world to fall in love with this world. It doesn’t mean you aren’t
saved or don’t love Jesus, but you end up compromising your faith. You
become a cultural Christian, someone who lets the culture dictate your
thoughts and actions as opposed to being guided by the Word of God. It
doesn’t mean you are drowning in alcohol, drugs, porn, illicit sex, or
things like that. It does mean that you have allowed the world to influence
you more than the Truth of God’s Word. That is why I implore you often to
read the Bible daily, pray daily, be in a good church, fellowship with other
Believers, find ways to serve. That way you never let the world you live in
take over you life.

Please keep your eyes and ears open. One of the lessons I have tried to
drive home over these 8+ years of Liveprayer is that you have to stay
focused on THE man and never a man (or woman). Men and women are frail
flesh and blood, prone to sin like anyone. While we expect those in
leadership, those high profile Believers we see in the media to live their
lives above reproach and honoring Christ, the reality is that doesn’t happen
often. Sift everything through the filter of God’s Word. Don’t blindly
follow anyone. Check with the Holy Spirit if those God has placed in your
life are leading you to righteousness or away from it. Jesus related
people to being like sheep. Sadly, there are far too few good shepherds in
the world today. Too many sheep are being fleeced and led to the slaughter.
May you keep your eyes focused on Jesus, THE Shepherd!

In His love and service,
Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller bkeller@liveprayer.com

***ARE YOU 100% CERTAIN WHERE YOU WILL SPEND ETERNITY? The fact is you will
die one day. At that moment, you will either spend eternity with the Lord or
be cast into everlasting darkness forever separated from God your creator.
To know for certain you will be forever with Jesus, go to:
http://www.liveprayer.com/bdy_salvatn.cfm

***I am excited to let you know that the Liveprayer Daily Devotional is now
available via AUDIO each day. Simply go to http://www.liveprayer.com/Audio.cfm
Also, you can now listen to the Daily Devotional by phone by calling 1-727-342-5673

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Mike Huckabee Is Down With Newt Gingrich (And Bill Clinton And Dick Morris)!

Posted by Job on January 9, 2008

Who knew that former Southern Baptist preachers got along so well with serial adulterers? This is more proof that Huckabee is not an actual Christian but rather just another Rick Warren T.D. Jakes Council on Foreign Relations worker.

Newt Gingrich: Mike Huckabee Is The Most Electable

Bill Clinton, Gingrich agree on Huckabee as GOP dark horse

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Bill Kristol Being Added To New York Times Oped Page

Posted by Job on December 29, 2007

In my old religious right GOP days, I would have hailed this as a victory for conservatism. But now, I am forced to reckon with the fact that Bill Kristol is not a Christian, but a very aggressive big business neoconservative Zionist who is extremely hard – hearted towards the poor and the dispossessed. As a matter of fact, Kristol is the son of Irving Kristol, who is called the father of neoconservatism. Now is not the time to be worried about being labeled “anti – Semite” or be distracted with ideological or partisan political games. As much as I oppose Mike Huckabee, it is interesting to note, for instance, that the neocons are trashing the fellow because he represents people that actually takes their Christianity seriously rather than worshiping a false god of state, tradition, heritage, values, etc. These same people actually went ballistic over Mike Huckabee’s saying “the purpose of Christmas is to honor Christ”, hounded him until he stopped calling himself “a Christian leader” in his ads (despite the fact that it was a literally true statement from a former megachurch pastor and head of the Arkansas Southern Baptist Convention), and actually dedicated several days to analyzing whether Huckabee used special lighting effects to make the light reflecting off a bookshelf behind him take the form of a crucifix! They have spent the last month emulating the New York Times, NPR, and what have you in calling Huckabee’s supporters ignorant bigots out to start a holy war. The best part is how they trash Huckabee for having the same record and positions on issues that Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney have.

If that is what people think of those that follow the false Christianity that tolerates people like John Hagee and Kenneth Copeland (whose support Huckabee has aggressively courted) and if they went apoplectic over hateful Anne Coulter’s dual covenant theology, then what do they think of real Christianity and actual Christians? The New York Times’ hiring this fellow really does show that when it comes down to it, the mainstream left and the right are on the same side when it comes to the globalist agenda. Kristol is going to use the influence of the New York Times to win over as many liberals to that agenda as possible just as a generation ago William F. Buckley used the National Review to transform the conservative movement into its current neoconservative manifestation.

Proof positive: Bill Kristol agrees with George W. Bush, the Wall Street Journal, John McCain, Ted Kennedy, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, etc. on amnesty for illegal immigrants and not enforcing our borders in general. Kristol, when it comes down to it, is just another Council on Foreign Relations/Rockefeller guy, and he is going to use his position at the New York Times to lead a lot of liberals, conservatives, independents, etc. down that path.

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Bush Administration Crushes States Rights! Federalist Conservatives Where Are You?

Posted by Job on December 21, 2007

E.P.A. Says 17 States Can’t Set Emission Rules

Federalist conservatives were more than willing to back the “states rights” cause in order to defend the Jim Crow south. But when 17 states decide that it is in their own interests to regulate emissions, the George W. Bush administration tramples on the rights of states. Further, this action was taken by the E.P.A., one of the agencies most hated by conservatives on states rights and property rights grounds (as well as for raw ideological reasons). Been on the usual conservative haunts and have seen absolutely no evidence of outrage. The conservative movement is dead people, with the rights of individuals, states, and Christians having been trumped by the interests of global corporations. If you haven’t heard that before, let me be the first to tell you. And please do not commit the typical thought nullification by saying “global warming is a scam!” This isn’t about global warming, it is the scam that the conservative movement has become.

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Charles Krauthammer Proves Yet Again That The Religious Right Is An Apostate Universalist Movement

Posted by Job on December 8, 2007

What is Krauthammer’s problem? Mike Huckabee’s overtaking Mormon Mitt Romney in the presidential race. Not that I am some fan of Mike Huckabee. Quite the contrary, see Ties Between Mike Huckabee And John Hagee Discovered! (He Also Has Ties To Kenneth Copeland, Tim LaHaye, And Rick Warren)! Huckabee is as bad for Christianity and this nation as is Romney, if not worse. The one good thing about Huckabee hound’s candidacy is seeing the reaction to his rise on the Mormon blogs, revealing that their professions of love and compassion for and desire to cooperate with “their fellow Christians” (please recall that Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, and the original Mormons called us “Gentiles”) is a total sham: they are calling Huckabee’s evangelical supporters a bunch of ignorant bigot fanatics. That is no big surprise. What should be more surprising is that the leaders of the political right agree with them.

Why? Because their agenda was always conservatism, not Christianity. They were willing to take votes from Christians in their war against the left, but they never had any legitimate interest in advancing a Christian political, social, or economic agenda. Now the fact that there SHOULDN’T be a Christian political, social, or economic agenda in the first place if one takes the teachings of Jesus Christ, James, John, Paul, Peter, etc. seriously is something to remember. And that is the problem. The leaders of the conservative movement have been more than willing to play a large role in deceiving Christians away from sound Bible teaching and towards the false notion that we can advance the kingdom of heaven by working in a big tent with greedy and powerful big business types, Log Cabin Republican sodomites, Republicans For Choice abortion holocaust supporters, and (of course) segregationist racists to force governments to put up our Christmas displays.

Except that after 30 years of activism, we still cannot legally have Christmas displays, vital as they are to spreading the gospel and saving people from an eternity in the lake of fire, feeding the hungry, healing the sick, comforting the grieving, looking after the orphans and widows, reforming those in prison, etc. without including a replica of the altars that pagans once used for their human sacrifices alongside it. Prayer in public schools or other public settings? Only if it is not in the Name of Jesus Christ, which allows any witch, satanist, pantheist, etc. to participate. And so on. Christians have far more failures than successes after 30 years of hard work, and what few successes they have are hollow indeed, such as the partial birth abortion ban that many Christian legal experts that are not affiliated with the religious right say actually has the effect of being a law that guarantees the legality of the procedure in the first two triemesters where no such federal protection for abortion existed prior.

To make a long story short, evangelical Christians have been to the Republican Party what blacks have been to the Democratic one. It is not a perfect comparison, for the former are not as monolithic or loyal, but the latter provides their party with nowhere near as much financial support as the former. But with both, the leadership of both parties is more than welcome to accept their political support for basically nothing in terms of policy or real political power. Huckabee, despite his many problems, is nonetheless an example of an evangelical using the very same religious right network that they exploited to seek real power for himself and his movement. It is fine if you are an evangelical and are willing to be the governor of a state that no one cares about (Arkansas) or a back – bencher senator. They may even give you a low level cabinet post. Until now, the biggest concession given to the evangelical movement was making John Ashcroft attorney general. And you see how that worked out: Bush administration officials forcing Ashcroft to sign an order authorizing torture while the man was gravely ill in the hospital. Not that I am an Ashcroft fan … it was Ashcroft who gave us faith based programs through his charitable choice provision in the welfare reform bill. But still.

Well now, Huckabee wants more power than the GOP ever intended for evangelicals to have, and the GOP is doing their best to demand that the religious right go back to their habit of supporting whoever leads the ticket and is willing to either pretend to be anti – abortion or failing that at least KINDA SORTA promise to appoint federal judges that MAYBE are. And so we have this manifesto from Krauthammer that tells evangelical Christians to know their place:

The God of the Founders, the God on the coinage, the God for whom Lincoln proclaimed Thanksgiving Day is the ineffable, ecumenical, nonsectarian Providence of the American civil religion whose relation to this blessed land is without appeal to any particular testament or ritual. Every mention of God in every inaugural address in American history refers to the deity in this kind of all-embracing, universal, nondenominational way. (The one exception: William Henry Harrison. He caught cold delivering that inaugural address. Thirty-one days later, he was dead. Draw your own conclusion.) I suspect that neither Jefferson’s Providence nor Washington’s Great Author nor Lincoln’s Almighty would look kindly on the exploitation of religious differences for political gain. It is un-American. It is unfortunate that Romney has had to justify himself in response.”

Thank you, Krauthammer, for demonstrating that the god of the religious right, the god of our (freemason and deist) founding fathers, and by extension the true patron god of this nation, whatever that god may be, is NOT the God of Christianity, the God of the Bible, the one true God who exists eternally in the Persons of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, with none of them having been created or having been was raised or progessed to godhood, but have always been God. If you did not know this in the past, well now you know, and you also know that there is no longer any reason for messing around with the religious right. They not only have never represented your agenda, but precisely the opposite. If you knew this already but supported the religious right anyway out of your zeal against abortion or communism, now is your chance to acknowledge that good fruit cannot come from wicked trees and turn aside. If you refuse to turn aside, well you are going to have to answer God for that decision. And of course, the fact that the religious left is also not on God’s side is so obvious that it does not need to be stated.

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Angry At Your Tax Bill? Then You Should Be Anti – War!

Posted by Job on December 1, 2007

This fellow politizine.blogspot.com/2007/12/something-to-think-about.html linked to my post Are You Supporting The Porn Industry When Buying Your Kids’ Christmas Gifts Christians? and made some excellent points. Check this out:

I don’t necessarily completely subscribe to this thinking. But it does make me think a bit, especially when looking at the entire global economy and things encircling around it [corporate greed, sub-prime mess, the stock market, Christians who worship the money god, etc.]. Maybe I read the WSJ too much at this point but I think I’m getting a pretty good education on economics and what is wrong with economics. And then, when you measure those things to what your core values are as a person – or what you would like your core values to be, what you aspire to, and all that encompasses that, you get a mind-full, if you will.” Note to self: get a Wall Street Journal subscription. Or something.

For example, if we took Christ’s words literally, none of us would have much at all and we wouldn’t be doing 95 percent of what we are doing. We could have true communities of people helping each other instead of attacking each other, trying to eat each other alive in order to get to a perceived step up [Note: I used the word "could" instead of "would." "Would" implies a definitive and, after all, we are humans, imperfect, and therefore can never truly create a "perfect" world]. We would have low to no taxes because we would have low to no war [This would be a "would" because math is definitive even if liars figure and figures lie, or whatever that saying is].”

A commenter suggested that we do precisely that to liberate ourselves from our Molech Baal freemason economy here and here. Hmmm …

And now here is the payoff. It is amazing how these conservatives and Republicans always complain about high taxes and big government while being so militaristic. (Then again the Democrats are just as militaristic while claiming to support peace, but they don’t complain about high taxes and big government).

If next year, for example, the Pentagon budget was cut by 91 percent like it was in the year after World War II [FY1947], it would be about $60 billion and not the $647 billion it is for FY2008 … [Check out Page 7 of the Defense Departments FY2008 Green Book if you don't believe me and while you're there, check out all the other interesting information]. And, BTW, this does not include money for “the Global War on Terror” or the Iraq/Afghanistan campaigns [Page 10 of Green Book states, and I quote, with an asterisk next to National defense: “* Estimated future emergency funding for the Global War on Terror is not included.

Family values supporters? “We could all work and earn less because we wouldn’t need as much. And, would of this be such a bad thing?” Now sadly, it was not a conservative or biblical Christian from whom I first heard this message, but rather the postmodern Marxist gay rights supporter Cornel West in his book “The War Against Parents.” (Since the Politizine fellow apparently cares about the sexism thing, let me mention that it was co written – and knowing Cornel West almost certainly actually largely written with the real work done by – Sylvia Ann Hewlett. Conservative groups criticized West’s book for saying that big business harmed families; and gay rights groups criticized West for actually caring about the parenting issue instead of mocking it by using it to promote their narrow agenda.) But it is interesting how few conservative family values types talk about how many families (American and Iraqi) have been destroyed by this war. Even the people that have not been directly affected by having a spouse or child deployed, killed, or maimed by this war are having to deal with the strain of the negative economic effects caused by it.

I know a lot of people think that the wars in Afghanistan especially but also in Iraq were justified. Fine. But people, the overwhelming majority of the things that our government has done in Iraq and Afghanistan have NOTHING to do with defeating the people who were responsible for September 11th and have NOTHING to do with preventing future terror attacks. We are not defeating Al Qaeda by giving out no bid contracts to Halliburton, Blackwater, and the Carlyle Group. It is amazing how so many “conservatives” will deluge the radio talk shows and flood the weblogs with outrage were Hillary Clinton to start a $100 million affirmative action college scholarship program as an atrocious example of big government waste, but have absolutely no problem with our wasting hundreds of billions of dollars in Iraq and Afghanistan – most of it going to fraud, corruption, waste, and incompetence – allegedly trying to get those eastern cultures to accept western democracy whether they want it or not and whether it improves their lives or not.

Well listen: the early church of Acts? Despite what all these “Judeo – Christian western culture” promoting religious right preachers will tell you, they DID NOT live in a democratic society. And they did fine, didn’t they? Why? Because they trusted God to take care of them, and God did so. Rick Warren Global P.E.A.C.E. supporter Mike Huckabee handled that death penalty question with a typical distortion: “Jesus Christ was too smart to run for political office.” Never mind that as a Jew living in a fascist Roman empire (Christ wasn’t even a citizen, because it was illegal to crucify Roman citizens) running for office was not even an option. Never mind that Jesus Christ was offered not mere political office but being the king of Israel by his people after He fed the 5,000 and king of the whole world by Satan when He was tempted in the desert BUT TURNED IT DOWN. Why? Because as He told Pilate, His kingdom is not of this world. And the media just LOVED Mike Huckabee’s great response, didn’t they? Of course they did, for they are liars just like him. They LOVED Huckabee’s deceiving people as to the true mission and nature of Jesus Christ, his reducing Christ to being a mere bohemian philosopher.

Now it seems that so many Christians have taken the gospel for Jesus Christ to be capitalism, western democracy, and culture, and felt that we could “free” the good people of Afghanistan and Iraq by “converting” them to our false religion with the sword. And that makes us different from the “Islamofascists” how? Well, the “Islamofascists” who want to cut your throat and rape your wife (according to Pat Robertson, who has to use over the top fearmongering against Muslims to justify supporting a guy far corrupt than Bill Clinton), but at least you don’t hear them complaining about their taxes! That alone makes them so much better than us, and that includes “FairTax” Huckabee, who is continuing the folly of telling people that we can have more government benefits by paying less taxes. North American Union anyone? Ready to use your ameros to buy Christmas presents? That is what will happen if our politicians continue to wreck our economy on purpose by increasing spending, adding huge entitlements, fighting wars all over the globe, continuing to support the World Bank, IMF, WTO, etc., and lowering taxes.

Please realize that the state of Indiana, under the governorship of George W. Bush’s former budget director, created an economic crisis by cutting taxes and increasing spending, and then sold control of their state’s main highways to a foreign company under the excuse that they needed the revenue. Sort of like how our banks got into trouble by making all of those bad investments starting in the 90s and now need foreign companies to bail them out. Coincidence? Did we start electing and our corporations start hiring incompetent financial people all at once? Hmmm … well consider that if all of the local economies collapse (as they did in Europe a few decades ago) the only recourse is economic integration. And … sooo … did I mention that a globalist economy is part of the Global P.E.A.C.E. Plan of Warren and Huckabee? Check that out here:

lighthousetrailsresearch.com/peaceplan.htm

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Focus on the Family Yokes with Heretic Robert Schuller

Posted by Job on October 28, 2007

Another goodie from Slice of Laodicea:

Focus on the Family Yokes with Heretic Schuller

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