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I Kissed A Girl. I Liked It. Then I Went To Hell!

Posted by Job on September 9, 2008

Saying It Like It Is?

Here’s a church sign put up by a congregation in Blacklick, Ohio in response to the hit single I Kissed A Girl (And Liked It) by Katy Perry(WARNING: site opens in a new window and plays songs from her album automatically).

ABC reports:

KATY PERRY’S SONG USED AS CHURCH WARNING TO TEENS

BLACKLICK, Ohio (AP) — A church near Columbus, Ohio, is using Katy Perry as a bad example. A sign outside Havens Corners Church in Blacklick has the lyrics from her song, “I kissed a girl and I liked it” — but it adds, “Then I went to hell.” Church pastor Reverend Dave Allison says the Bible is clear that homosexuality is a sin, so the sign is intended as a loving warning to teens. He says it’s confused some people who either don’t know the song or don’t understand the message. Lynne Bowman of the gay rights group Equality Ohio says the sign indicates the church isn’t very accepting. Perry has not responded to calls for comment.

Obviously, those who come across the sign would have to have some inkling of the song and what its lyrics glorify to understand why kissing a girl would send someone to hell. It’s no wonder, too, that the world, and I presume, (perhaps) a section of Christians who are liberal in their outlook, is up in arms over this “offensive” message. 

What do you think? Good or bad call on the part of the pastor? Is this a case of “tell it like it is” or can the message about homosexuality as a sin be better put forward?

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57 Responses to “I Kissed A Girl. I Liked It. Then I Went To Hell!”

  1. jennifer said

    Because many may not be up to date on the current music…this may be taken as a bizarre message…

    Perhaps the intent was good, but the message comes out as vague and puritan(and not even clear that it is about homosexuality).

  2. Job said

    Jennifer:

    Actually I agree with you. I was going to modify the title, but got distracted (kid stuff) and when I came back I had forgotten what I was going to change it to.

  3. layla said

    As a young Adult i feel as if this message is alltogether wrong, and extreamly hurtfull. it also singels people out, just because you kiss a girl and liked it does not mean you will go to hell. i believe in god, and i believe in heaven..but the bible has to many questionable thoughts on how we are to follow gidelines and rules. Yes i understand the bilbe was given to us to live by and some people do, but you cant tell me people dont sin..everyone does every day and all the time. Athough i am not a bisexual or gay in any matter, i feel as if people fall in love for good reasons. How could you single “kissing girls as a ticked to hell… thats bull. why dont you put out how so many people today are dealing drugs giving away there body there kids there life,, or maybe the people who commet adultry (because thats a big important sin just about everyone does. Or more even the amounts of rape thats seem to proceed as the years go by. With teens using date rape drugs or mothers and mostly fathers raping there kids, even preasts themselfs have raped. All thoses sin that people do today … because lets face it in todays wold no one is perfect not even close .. the would is screwed up and so are the people who try and fix it. All im saying is if we sin on one of the ten commandments….we are sapose to go to hell right…. but like i said befor almost everyone as acted upon thoses sins…and what do we do we ask god for forgiveness and we will go to heaven, You cant say they will go to hell because you dont really no. There is no good reason as to why a girl cant kiss a girl and like it and if you dont agree your wrong. Maybe thats not how you do things but really you cant tell me ” well thats what the bible says and its wrong. Because the bible says a lot of things and believe me somewhere in there your doing wrong. So stop critisizing people for who they want to kiss or love,,, you have no right… think of it this way if your child, brother sister or best friend was gay would you love them?? or what if you already did love them and didnt find out they were gay untill long down the road… would you stop loving them..Could you look at them every day to your loved one and say your going to hell… NO NO you cant so love people for who they are you dont have to love what they do .. love them for them..and not what you want them to be !!!

  4. nan said

    God created man for woman and woman for man. He created man to kiss woman and like it and woman to kiss man and like it not man kiss man and like it or woman kiss woman and like it. Male and female created he them to replenish the earth. He said that it was not good for man to be alone so he created WOMAN FOR MAN. I wonder when will people read the Bible and get the message for it is quite clear. If a woman is kissing another woman like a man kisses her, on the lips she shouldn’t be kissing another woman on the lips in the first place, and neither should a man be kissing another man on the lips. That is wrong, out of place and nasty, but people are reprobate these days and anything goes, but in the eyes of God it is still not right. The problem is that a lot of people are not really praying to God for his guidance, because when u pray sincerely to God he will direct ur path and will not let you go in the path of destruction. If you go in the path of destruction it is because one chooses too. God is not the author of confusion EVER, and this world is confused, so who is leading it, Not God.

    • untitled said

      Everyone should be treated equally. The ignorance in shallow minded people stuns me sometimes.

      • Sara said

        ok well what you say is entirly your opinion although im ablieged to say that you have it wrong in my opinion what people do is entirly up to them so what they do and who they do it with has no effect what so ever on your life and the fact that you can say man cant kiss man and women cant kiss women at all is pretty insane because mother kiss their daughter, neices and so on yet that is fine, but two females sharing a sexual relationship is not wrong in any sense of the word. the only think that is wrong is the fact that you think you have the right to dictate what is right and wrong. you just dont!!! What you believe about god being our savour and so on is your opinion and i cant tell you your wrong or right as it is not my place but what i will say is you have to be pretty gulable, vulnerable or just plain stupid to believe that god is real, come on anyone could have wrote the bible and look how many versions there is so you talking about a women and men having same sex relationship is wrong at least they do it by choice and from free will and they no its true and real.!!!

        and may i ask soo what is your view on priest phedophileia and killing in the name of god i.e war!!!

  5. Kyle said

    Layla,

    I see you are lost. Jesus Christ died on the cross to save his elect. You can’t live a “good” life. You can’t be a “nice” person. You can’t “do” the Ten Commandments. It takes God to supernaturally give you a new heart of flesh. One that sees things his way. You see everything you stated was from Man’s perspective rather than God’s. Once your truly born again your whole life changes and you begin to conform to the person of Christ. And although love is important one must consider what is love ordained by God and what is love created by the flesh. You see your thinking in the physical and not the spiritual. By your very words It seems as though you have never been born again. I will pray for you.

    In Christ,

    Kyle

  6. Kyle said

    Nan,

    Although you are correct in stating the Law of God, we must remember it is not the Law that saves but condemns. So for people like Layla if not saved is already condemned by the Law as the Bible says so. Only the Grace of God can open the eyes of people. Until that happens the unsaved will justify their ways even if the Bible is contrary to their thoughts. In essence the Law as you rightly pointed out will be rejected by the unbeliever. You see think of it as someone speeding down the highway that is marked 65 MPH. The person rejects the Law and goes 85 MPH. As long as that person never gets caught, in their own minds they can justify it regardless of what the law states. We are inherently evil as the Bible states and no Law will ever open our eyes. We were once lawless also until the Divine Grace of God opened our hearts and then the Law became clear.

    Kyle

  7. someone said

    As someone with an admittedly limited working knowledge of scripture, I think that the slogan is not only incredibly offensive, but also misstates the Bible’s message. The sign implies that because someone likes kissing people of the same sex, they automatically go to hell. From my understanding, the scripture teaches that as long as people make a concerted effort to live their life in accordance with God’s laws, they won’t be condemned. Whether or not you believe homosexual behavior is a sin (and for the sake of full disclosure, I don’t believe this way), I don’t think any serious theologian would say that God condemns people simply for having homosexual desires. According to scripture, everyone sins, and some people even enjoy doing sinful acts. But what matters is that they make an effort to refrain from doing such acts and living their life in accordance with God’s plans.

    It wouldn’t make sense for a sign to say, “I told a lie, and I liked it, then I went to hell.” Because liars who repent and love God don’t go to hell. If you believe homosexual acts are a sin, the same logic can be applied for gay people.

    This sign presents an inaccurately harsh interpretation of the scripture against homosexuals. This is problematic, because sexual minorities are still the victims of hate crimes on a regular basis in our society. By contributing to this discourse of intolerance, this church is making anti-gay sentiments more legitimate in the public sphere, and enabling the type of thinking that allows hate crimes (including murder) to be acceptable in the minds of many people.

    Additionally, if the Church’s goal is to encourage homosexual or questioning people to turn to God and stop acting on their desires, they’ve certainly failed. They’ve certainly not convinced me, as a gay man to change my behavior. If anything, they’re alienating the very people they’re attempting to save with such inflammatory language.

    So this is definitely a bad call. It’s scripturally inaccurate, inflammatory, and alienating. So there’s my two cents on the matter.

  8. Jordan said

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  9. Another someone said

    Agree with “someone.” Why do Christians use tactics to scare people, though? Do this, or you’ll go to hell. Don’t do this, or you’ll go to hell. The bible is constantly changing and it is very likely some things were mistranslated and/or lost in translation. It’s very contradictory when people say “God loves all his children” and then you see things that tell people “God hates this…God hates that.” SO, which one is it? It doesn’t make any sense and I think people take religion to such a far extent that they make it seem like their beliefs are backed up by what “God” says. The bible was not written by God….

  10. Christie said

    This sign isn’t going to help anyone, only send a message of hate and discouragement. For those who don’t know the song, like children and the elderly its confusing. This is no better than Fred Phelps, the Baptist preacher who pickets the funerals of gays or anyone who he considers a “fag enabler”. He even said in an interview that Mr. Rogers (Fred Rogers) was in Hell. I think Christians have become too obsessed with homosexuality. Only God can change them or if they decide for themselves that they should change.

  11. Alec said

    My thoughts:

    Putting the debate of God vs. homosexuality aside, look at this sign as an advertisement (very loosely used) not only for this particular church, but for Christianity in general. These marquee signs in front of churches are meant to draw the attention of drivers to the church, right? If you’re a non-Christian who sees this message (maybe you even like the song), what’s it going to do for you? It will turn you off, make you think of how culturally detached and tactless modern-day Christians are, etc. Rather than drawing attention with love (which is hard to do, admittedly), this church chose to emphasize a divisive issue in a negative light. It’s churches like this who give American Christians a bad name among non-believers. How shameful.

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  13. DavidL said

    HAHAHA!!!! I’ve never heard the song before but that sign is hilarious!!! LOL!

  14. Why are so many religious people so evil….

    • Sara said

      that is so true, i absolutly love ur comment. i couldnt have put it any better myself!!! yet there ment to be the good ones!

  15. Luppy said

    Layla I’m with you 100%!

    That sign does nothing but spread hate.

  16. Bryan said

    Just so you all know….GOD is just pretend.

    Thank you.

  17. Brian said

    Right on, Bryan — and this tacked-on line to the song is just another example of how fundies love to point fingers at other people — anything as an attempt to justify their need to be divisive. We’ve all heard about some of Jerry Falwell’s statements about segregation, for example, and this song title thing is no different — just an excuse to control and/or condemn other people.

  18. Heather said

    Welcome to this generation people. Thousands from now, Christianity will become Christian Mythology and all you know now will just be another silly concept. Read a history book for a change. You should believe facts, not fairy tells written by bards in a world the spoiled today can’t grasp.

  19. Sarah said

    Grrrr….stuff like this upsets me. It is rather hilarious, I cracked up the first time I saw it. But then I learned that it was actually a church outreach. And that is what upsets me. You do not reach ANYONE like this! If anything it drives them the opposite direction and teaches them to hate Christians. Granted, people do need to know that there is a hell, and they do need to learn that there will be consequences for their actions if they live a life without Christ. But Jesus calls us first to love. And that’s what people are forgetting. You love them, you show them how deep and forgiving God’s love is…and in turn, they accept Christ and turn their lives around BECAUSE THEY WANT TO, because they love God so much, and want to please Him; not because they are afraid to go to Hell otherwise. Honestly, someone who ‘receives salvation’ because they think they might go to Hell may confess with their mouth, but I doubt they truly believe in their heart. They can’t truly believe in their heart that God is what He is, because all they know Him to be is a condemning man who whats to send them to Hell for loving someone (though that love is a distorted version of the truth, that’s how they see it). I’m done

  20. Sarah said

    And also, to all the people who are making comments about ‘religion’….true Christianity is NOT a religion, it is a relationship with Christ. If anything, it is the anti-religion…because religion is man trying to pave their way to Heaven, divinity. But Christianity is God reaching out to us so that we don’t have to fight our way to there. He created a RELATIONSHIP with us through Jesus Christ.

  21. Kyle said

    Sarah,

    Yes the sign does nothing to bring people to Christ. But here is your problem with how you see people being lead to Christ.

    You said,”You love them, you show them how deep and forgiving God’s love is…and in turn, (they) accept Christ and turn (their) lives around BECAUSE (THEY) WANT TO, because (they) love God so much, and want to please Him”

    That is actually Arminian heresy on a grand scale. Your exegesis on scripture is sorely lacking my dear. God chooses whom he will even in the midst of an ignorant sign outside a Church. That being said however, YES the sign does nothing but insight people to more rage against Christians and YES the Pastor is an idiot for coming up with such a slogan. However, you need to also look into your own philosophy on what and how one is saved. Your quote above is quite frightening and is a heresy far worse than that stupid I kissed a girl sign.

    In Christ,

    Kyle Andrews

  22. John Kaniecki said

    Kyle,

    Hi hope you are well.

    I John 4:10 “Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.”

    John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he fave his only beggotten Son, that whosoever shall believeth in him should not perish but have ever lasting life.”

    Mark 12:29-31 “And Jesus answered him, The first of all commandments is, Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this,Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.”

    I Corinthians 13 “Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not love, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not love, it profiteth me nothing.”

    I John 4:16 “And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.”

    There is nothing greater, more powerful, or higher than Love. After all God is Love.

    Romans 10:17 “So faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.”

    So which scriptures from the Word of God do we teach them. Of course the answer should be the two greatest ones…Love God and Love Man. (See above.) If fact if there is not love in people then their faith is useless. ( I Corinthians 13 again see above.)

    James 2:17 “Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.”

    James 1:23 “For if any be a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass.”

    So not only do we have to hear the word of God (Romans 10:17) But according to James if we don’t obey the word of God we are dead.

    So when you make a comment that what Sarah is saying is heresy you must reconsider. Without a doubt the Bible teaches predestination. Ephesians 1:11 “In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will.”

    God does predestinate some but read the scripture how he does it by “worketh all things after the counsel of his own will.”

    Look at the conversion of the Ehtiopian Eunich in Acts 8. How did God work that salvation. There were two key things. One the Holy Spirit sent Philip to the man. Second God used the Word of God in particular the book of Isaiah. Finally the man accepted Christ. Note two that the eunich didn’t praise God until after he was baptized.

    So I think it is safe to say that God does predestinate people. God had choosen the eunich and had prepared his mind by the man’s reading of scripture. Yet God also worked through a human agent in the form of Philip. There is no greater Love than in the sharing of the scripture.

    I think of my own conversion of how godly men and women both Loved me and taught me the scripture. How can you instruct about a God who is Love without loving yourself? That is a contradiction.

    If you suggest that people can get saved without God using some kind of agent I’d like to see the scriptures for that. Certainly every conversion in the book of Acts involved the people who were being saved and other things. And these other things always involved a human agent.

    Also I see no conflict in believing in predestination and free will.

    Love,

    John

  23. Kyle said

    John,

    re-read my premise. She assumes that it is US who love God and that We seek him first. The scriptures you quoted are God directed/initiated and I in no way dissagree with you. However, Her opinion is of mankind initiating salvation.

    Kyle

  24. John Kaniecki said

    Kyle,

    Hi hope you are well.

    I see now.

    Without God doing His work nobody would be saved. The whole point of the gospels and Jesus, is that God sent His Son to come to Earth to reconnect with man. Sin seperates us from God. Unfortunately the vast majority reject God.

    Love,

    John

  25. sgtphoenix said

    The Bible says that Wisdom wins souls, and this is in no means wise, at all!

    First, not everyone has heard the song, it should not be on a public facing sign, the sign should bring hope or a warning directly from the scriptures, faith come by hearning, and hearing by the word of God.

    The sign should bring people in and then the preaching under the anointing should bring them to Christ.

    This is one of the most lost messages I have ever seen on a church sign.

  26. Sarah said

    Kyle,

    You really twisted my meaning…big time. Of course I am not indicating that man saves himself. That is absolutely ridiculous. Yes, God chose us. But we cannot be saved unless we love Him in return…no matter what, we have to truly love Him too. We make a choice too; because God is a gentleman and doesn’t want to force Himself on us :) that’s one of the many things I love about Him. Jeez, He is awesome..anyhoo…

    I’m afraid the way you attack people, assume you know what’s in their hearts, and call them heretics, is rather frightening as well. Please adopt a different attitude before you screw many people (who aren’t as deeply rooted in their faith) totally up.

    _Sarah

  27. Melissa said

    haha
    i think this is hilarious.
    first of all i love this song.
    and second, its just a song!
    i love God but i guess everyone has their own opinion on what one can or cant do to get into heaven.

  28. James said

    Go to Havens Corners Church webpage (http://havenscornerschurch.org/mmedia.html), there you will find an MP3 file titled “A Loving Warning Explained – Sermon – September 7, 2008,” explaining why the church put those words in that limited board space.

  29. Olivia said

    I frankly am in disbelief that this is real. (To be honest, it’s such a ridiculous message that I find it entirely humorous!) Such a blatant and presumptuous display of how much progress must be made for mankind to really learn love and acceptance of our fellow humans. I certainly hope the offensiveness of the sign will deter onlookers from reading into the underlying discriminatory message. I’m floored.

    A recovering catholic,
    Olivia

  30. Kevin said

    I would like to remind everyone that the only slur about homosexuality in the bible is leviticus and that says that its a sin to eat shellfish so how about:
    I ate a shellfish
    and i like it
    now all those christian kidfuckers are talking about me

  31. Kevin said

    as someone who went to a Christian school and was raised Christian
    i know that there is only one message to gay people in the bible is in Leviticus which says that its a sin to eat shellfish so…
    I ate a shrimp
    and i liked it
    hope Jesus don’t mind it
    he called it wrong
    so I’m going to hell? WTF!

    grow up people, there is more than one passage to righteousness, but i know that you won’t be if your hateful which this sign is

    • Sara said

      your absolutly amazing i which this was facebook and i could like it… but i cant but seriously wow

    • I think that you refer to only one scripture in the OT.

      Lv 20.13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

      Lets see what the NT has to say about it.

      Jude 1:4-7

      4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. 5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not. 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire

      and going after strange flesh is meant as having sex with same kind, man with man and woman with woman.

      Okay so now my opinion as I have one yes :-)

      We are not to judge anyone. Because like we judge we will be judged. I think there are better way’s to sent out e message. Specially if you are a church and have a big social podium. Maybe they should have stated a sing if you want to kiss girls come in we have lots of them ;-) Then tell a story of love and graze. So this is not like I have the answer. But it is sure that NT and OT do not set each-other apart.

  32. Graham said

    Maybe this “church isn’t very accepting,” but neither is Katy Perry..

  33. Cear said

    Are these people retarded? do they not realize they sin?

  34. Chihiro said

    i love jesus with all my heart
    but im bi and nothing is gonna change that

  35. lol, Christianity

    There’s no such thing as “Salvation,” people. Get over it. Seriously.

  36. N/A said

    well hey,

    I can’t think of a more loving and friendly way to get across to teens. Props to the church on that one!

  37. Going to hell said

    SCREW you and your church I get the message loud and clear and If you did your homework you would know that stupid singer is NOT even gay, but I am! I am tired of your kind spitting on us, killing us beating us and always gay bashing us because that is what you ARE doing jerk! You are promting hate to your generation of kids and past generations that grow up and transform that hate into beating us up which happended to me a few months ago and I could of died its because of people like you! Kids go to your church learn about GOD hating us read it hear it grow up with it and when they see a gay coming out of a gay club jump us for no other than being who I am! Why don’t you use your church for good in and attack poverty, crime or child abuse be constructive. You are only reaching out to your kind and esp. not gays or any sinners for that matter which a sin is a sin and you sin to! You are acually turning people away from your church than saving anyone.

  38. Mindy said

    seriously what song ISNT offending people now days

  39. Tiffany said

    I agree with you Mindy, there are so many songs call women b*tches and h*es that I don’t even blink. The conversation that really needs to happen would answer why church folk think men and women are so different. Until people start seeing gender and sex on an equal plain there will be more of these hateful messages.

    Being gay is not a sin. No where in the Bible does it say its a sin. Until Christians get that through there thick skulls, they will have to continue with these stupid scare tactics.

    *rollseyes*

  40. Meagan said

    I honestly feel that religion is nothing except for a vehicle to spread hate and control the masses with fear and guilt. As someone who grew up and lived many years of my adult life as a Christian, I can say that without it we could actually allow ourselves to control our actions instead of being chained by outdated literature and myths. This is another example of that. Being a homosexual or experimenting with someone of the same sex is normal and most people who feel the need to try it “like it”. It doesn’t hurt anyone. In fact people who try to stifle their homosexuality because of some close-minded preacher are usually the only ones hurt. But that’s just my opinion. Yours is just as important as mine.

  41. Job said

    Meagan:

    “I honestly feel that religion is nothing except for a vehicle to spread hate and control the masses with fear and guilt.”

    And why do you afford so much authority to your subjective feelings? People’s feelings are often wrong, and the perspectives that we use to base our feelings are extremely limited.

    “As someone who grew up and lived many years of my adult life as a Christian, I can say that without it we could actually allow ourselves to control our actions instead of being chained by outdated literature and myths.”

    So you are saying that my being healed of asthma and kidney disease is a myth? That my being delivered from addiction is a myth? Because my testimony of faith healing and deliverance from addiction are very real. The only question is whether you believe that I am telling the truth or whether I am lying.

    “Being a homosexual or experimenting with someone of the same sex is normal and most people who feel the need to try it “like it”. ”

    You are correct. Sinful behavior is extremely natural. That does not make it right. The point is that sinful behavior offends God, and God punishes those that offend Him.

    “It doesn’t hurt”

    Obviously you are not a medical doctor. It has been medically proven that homosexual behavior damages the body and mind. Even the APA, hardly a Christian organization, classified homosexuality as a mental illness until recently. The physical and mental effects of homosexual behavior is simply repressed for political reasons. But the average life expectancy of a homosexual male is 47. This is despite the fact that homosexuals earn more on average and therefore generally have more and better access to medical care.

    “But that’s just my opinion. Yours is just as important as mine.”

    No, my opinion concerning homosexuality is simply medically, scientifically proven fact. Go talk to any medical doctor or public health researcher. You may have to get them to talk to you “off the record” because their careers would be in jeopardy. Homosexual behavior destroys the body and the mind. You can ask any honest doctor to tell you exactly how and why homosexual behavior destroys a person’s health and they will give you reams of material. The idea that it is “harmless” is one of the biggest and most dangerous lies, and the basis for which so many alleged Christians are now endorsing the behavior. But the people who endorse the behavior in the media and so forth aren’t members of the medical community – especially the public health and government health community – who has to deal with the health problems caused by this behavior, especially among the poor and in areas where there are high concentrations of homosexuals and bisexuals.

    Though I am not a fan of his political views or agenda, Bernard Goldberg exposed the media’s dishonest distortions of the issue years ago. The media only shows high income, healthy, stable-looking, monogamous appearing homosexual couples, particularly middle-aged Caucasian lesbians in order to promote the “oh, it’s harmless!” image. Those are the people that the media put front and center in the gay marriage debate, for instance. They NEVER show the true nature of the extremely destructive homosexual subculture, and they ESPECIALLY never show the rabid hatrid that so many in this subculture exhibit for themselves and others. This self-hatred is precisely why suicide rates among homosexuals are sky high, a fact which the gay activists blame on “homophobia.”

    Meagan, you truly are being deceived. But if you are interested in the truth, all you need to do is go visit your local public health clinic and there will be more than a few people who have to deal with the carnage that homosexuality inflicts on the body and the mind every day to tell you the truth. The King James Version Bible refers to homosexual behavior as “abuse.” Any honest medical professional would be quick to tell you that such a reference is 100% accurate.

    • Russell said

      “It has been medically proven that homosexual behavior damages the body and mind.”
      “my opinion concerning homosexuality is simply medically, scientifically proven fact.”

      Care to tell us those “reams of material” from which you got these facts? A medical journal or some other reputable source besides the depths of your poor excuse for a mind? Something tells me you’re just pulling “facts” out of your ass to support your religious agenda.

      Read this and this and tell me what you think.

      “So you are saying that my being healed of asthma and kidney disease is a myth? That my being delivered from addiction is a myth? Because my testimony of faith healing and deliverance from addiction are very real.”

      What evidence do you have that God plays any part in your “healing and deliverance” from asthma, kidney disease, and addiction?

  42. Lindsay said

    I have been a Christian my entire life, if you read the Bible it does say that homosexuality is a sin…however it also says being a murderer, an adulterer, a drunkard, doing drugs, stealing….on and on. I am not sure where you thought that God only singled out that one group of sinners, perhaps you should look at them as human beings instead of the one thing you think defines them. When I walk around I dont meet someone and say ” Hi I’m straight what about you.” Jesus spent His time on this earth preaching, teaching and fellowshipping with the SINNERS! I feel like the billboard was uncalled for….all you accomplished with that is to further more prove to non-believers that they are NOT welcome in the body of Christ….instead of going through the world and grabbing every oppurtunity to teach others we spend most of our time critisizing.

    • Job said

      “Bible it does say that homosexuality is a sin…however it also says being a murderer, an adulterer, a drunkard, doing drugs, stealing….on and on”

      And show me a single shred of evidence that I focus only on homosexuality and not other sins on this site. Claiming that I do not is ridiculous. You are bearing false witness against me … which is a sin.

      Incidentally, all you are doing is engaging in the same tactic that the homosexual activists do all the time, FALSELY claiming that Christians focus only on homosexuality while ignoring other sins. Their tactic is to claim that everyone sins, everyone is a sinner, so let’s just either accept homosexuality explicitly, or do it implicitly by not talking about it and opposing it.

      Which is of course nonsense, a double standard. If fundamentalists and evangelicals don’t let heterosexuals who commit fornication and adultery and pornography slide without opposing it, why should we do the same for homosexuals?

      Look, stop regurgitating the propaganda of gay rights activists and folks who have no interest in legitimate Biblical Christianity. Stop aligning yourself with those who are offended, embarrassed by, and hate the message of the cross and its requirements.

      “Jesus spent His time on this earth preaching, teaching and fellowshipping with the SINNERS!”

      Another out of context historical and doctrinal oversimplication. Jesus Christ spent His time on this earth CALLING SINNERS TO REPENTANCE.

      Matthew 9:13
      But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

      Mark 2:17
      When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

      Luke 5:32
      I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

      Don’t you realize that giving a distorted, incomplete picture of what the Bible actually says is the enemy’s oldest trick? Jesus Christ REGULARLY reminded the people that He was preaching to of their sins, and He ALWAYS let them know that if they did not turn from their sins that they would spend an eternity in the lake of fire. Look, it is a common well known tactic to present a false picture of Christ that deviates from the one that actually exists in the Bible, which ultimately causes you to worship a false Christ.

      Because this is the fact: because of modern society that not only normalizes but embraces and glorifies sin, most people don’t know that they are sinners. They don’t know that they are on the way to hell. They are only going to know IF YOU TELL THEM. And if you go around telling them WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR, which is that it’s the Bible-believing CHRISTIANS who are THE REAL SINNERS because we are hateful, ignorant narrow minded hypocrites, what reason does a homosexual have to acknowledge his own sin and turn from it? How is bashing Christians going to get the person who believes “I am gay because God made me this way because God loves diversity” or “sure, homosexuality is a sin, but we are all sinners so in the end I will be saved by grace despite my homosexuality because of what Jesus Christ did on the cross” to know that they are WRONG and NEED TO CHANGE?

      Look, folks really do need to stop relying on the false picture of Jesus Christ that they are getting from popular culture and non-Christians, and instead start worshiping the real Jesus Christ of the Bible.

  43. John Kaniecki said

    Job,

    Hi hope you are well.

    I think the so called Christian world does attack homosexuality more than other sins.

    Conversely homosexuality is something that is being pushed as a ‘life style’ and not a sin. This is a very dangerous thing! While pornography, adultry, drunkeness and so forth are all condemned, homosexuality seems to be accepted. It is being taught in our school at an early age.

    This is similar to the pro abortion people who call murder ‘a woman’s right to choose’.

    It all goes back to what happened in the Garden. The serpent twisted God’s words. Note that God gave the command not to eat of the tree to Adam before Eve was created. So today we have many people who are ignorant of God’s Word. They hear a twisted story. “Homosexuality is a genetic thing where people have no choice and it does nobody any harm. It is simply an alternative life style.”

    The key I believe is getting people into the Word of God and showing them the awesomeness of the Creator and His Love for all. Once people understand God knows best then they can accept His will.

    Love,

    John

    • someguy said

      Homosexuality is taught??? And the wording: pro-abortion… what about anti-choice? I am much happier doing right on this earth, and right by those around me, assuming that they are all equal regardless of any characteristic.

      I fail to understand how people who do not subscribe to a lifestyle can claim to understand it (e.g. homosexuality being a choice vs. genetic)… personally, I don’t care. I love my gay and straight friends equally, and that won’t change. If I had revealed religion, it would require me to fight against their choice, which I could not do.

  44. Julian said

    This is horribly inappropriate. If the bible is clear on anything it is that the only unforgivable sin, the only sin that can send you to hell, is denying the salvation offered by Jesus Christ. If this sign were true, than any sin would send someone to hell because the bible also says that all sins are equal and no sin is more significant than another. So someone who eats to much would go to hell for being a glutton. The true offense, is that the people in this church live by the bible (so they like to lead on) and are yet so ignorant to what it says, its not even a matter of interpretation anymore its just blatant disregard for what is written. It’s sad really, and it is people like these that give a terrible name to Christians everywhere.

  45. Colette said

    I don’t believe anyone would actually put that on a sign. Just because you believe something doesn’t mean everyone else does. Why do Christians even have so much agenst LGBT anyway? Its so stupid! If they aren’t hurting you just leave them alone!

  46. Danny said

    God does not have a point system. I believe that God considers all sins equally, whether it is murder or a lie. Did not Moses kill an Egyptian slave driver? Did not Paul kill countless Christians? But these men are prominent figures in our beliefs. So homosexuality is a sin, but i believe it is only a sin through choice. Some people are born differently through hormonal imbalances but i will not get into that science. But lets ignore my beliefs for the moment and assume that homosexuality is a sin no matter what. Well then so what? Lying is a sin, theft, lust, and greed are sins as well. Does it not say that the only way to get to heaven is to believe and accept Jesus as savior?! Does it say that as a sinner you can get into heaven if they believe in Jesus but if that sinner is a gay he/she is a no go? If so, please correct my ignorance and quote the bible on where is say such. Why must a church point out and discriminate against a large group of people? How dare this church have the gall to point at a group of people and damn them to hell?! Only God can judge! Only God will decide who is deserving of heaven and hell. Not some clergy man, not a pastor and not even the Pope! These people are just that: people! They are mortal imperfect sinners just like all of us. And thus have no right in any sense to say who goes to hell and who doesn’t. It is people like this that are creating so many harden atheist! By shoving your personal beliefs down individuals throats you push them away from God. No one wants to be pointed at, called a sinner and said they are going to hell. This billboard is not convincing anyone to stop being gay! It is only breeding fear of the homosexual community. To quote Yoda from Star Wars “Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.” This church is doing just that. If anyone wants to continue damning anyone one else to hell for what ever reason “Let he who is without sin cast the fist stone.”

  47. My thoughts said

    I personally find this sign to be offensive. People fear what they don’t understand, and “straight” people will never understand homosexuals. How can they? How can they know what it’s like to be hated for finding a person of the same sex attractive? Or to be bullied and laughed at, to be asked to leave cafes or stores because they openly showed affection to their partner? The Bible says that God is love, and that we should love our neighbor like we love ourselves, yet Christians condemn homosexuals to hell and treat them cruelly. Homosexuals are people, they have feelings, they have a soul. Everyone sins, but God loves us all the same. People like this pastor give Christians a bad name, they feed the stereotype that all Christians are pompous hypocrites who act as if they have never sinned in their lives and frown upon those of us who don’t follow their beliefs. Yes, the Bible does say that homosexuality is a sin, but we all have sinned at one point in our lives, whether it be lying, stealing or cheating on our significant other. But, God forgives us for our sins so long as we repent. Only God can choose who goes to Heaven and who goes to Hell. Who do you think God would choose to go to Heaven; the “straight” Christian man who killed his entire family and never repented or the gay Christian who begged God’s forgiveness every day of his life because he knew he was sinning. God loves us all, gay or straight. I’m a lesbian, and I love God and I was raised Christian my whole life. Homosexuality isn’t a choice, why would someone willing choose to be hated by people they have never met? I will say this though; there actually are people who choose to be gay, and those are the people who give the rest of us a bad name. I never chose to find girls attractive, I tried to like boys, I honestly did, but doing so, I was so unhappy. But when I finally came out, I was happy, it was like a weight had been lifted off my shoulders. God loves us, and he tells us we should love one another. We all sin, but so long as we repent, it doesn’t matter how many times you do, God will always forgive us.

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