The question should read,
“Why did Joseph Smith die in a gun battle?” Not very similar to Stephen or a multitude of other martyrs was it?

This is important because he is the founder of your religion. Christians must prove themselves by both word and deed.

Love,

John

Hi hope you are well.

And you see my hatred and venom where? By talking about things openly and honestly? Should I ignore history and the Bible?

Please, show me where the hatred was in my words and I will gladly apologize. Be specific.

We are to conted for the true gospel. I will not water down the gospel to appease anyone. That would not be a service to you.

Furthermore why don’t you answer the points of contention that I made? Why did Joseph Smith did in a gun battle? Jesus went to his death voluntarily trusting in the Father. Mark 14.

I Love you. It is the lies that you believe in that I hate. I could go on and point out many things Mormons do contrary to the Word of God but let us start the conversation at this point with what has been brought out.

Show me the hatred.

Regarding what the Mormons have done the massacre of the Utes and the stealing of their land is a good place to begin.

Love,

John

Hi hope you are well.

I will respond to your points.

Point 1. The qualifications for an elder, bishop or overseer are found in 1 Timothy 3 and in Titus 1. The qualifications these young men don’t meet are that they are unmarried and thus don’t have faithful wives. They have no faithful children. They are novices in the Word of God. (I don’t care what upbringing you have one is still a novice at age 20.)

Point 2. As concerning Peter being the rock in Mathew 16. The rock is the confession that Jesus is the Christ. Every other reference to the rock refers to Jesus. The claim that Peter is the rock came from the mouth of a so called elder.

Point 3. What does it matter how Joseph Smith died? James tells us faith without deeds is death. What is a godly message if one does not live a godly life. What would Paul or Peter have been if they were immoral people? They would have been hypocrites. Notice in the Bible how real Christians respond to persecution. Peter and John thanked God to be found worthy to suffer. Stephen prayed for those who slew him. What does it matter how one lives one life? Why everything.

Furthermore Joseph Smith had multiple wives some of a very young age. From what I can discern of the man he was a self serving little tin god who propigated a lie of a false gospel. “But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:8

What about the fact that the Mormon religion excluded people of color until recently? Your own ’sacred’ writings still propigate the lies of racism. Your so called leader just had a change in heart to include darker skinned people. What happened God changed his mind? I think not.

We are only scratching the surface. There are many fundamental flaws in your beliefs that contradict the Word of God as defined by the sixty six books of the Bible.

Love,

John

I have been a mormon all of my life and there are a couple of things that i want to talk about here:

1) when you say that the missonarys are “claiming to be elders though they meet none of the qualifications” what qualifications are there that they do not meet?

2) Mormons do no believe that Peter is the rock of the church mencioned in mathew 16, actually it is just the oposite. we bilieve that meny churches are wrong in this belief, we bileve that the rock mentioned it revelation, because through revelation is how peter came to know that Jesus was the son of god
-He saith unto them, But whom say aye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not brevealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
~Matthew 16:15-17

3)What does the way a person was killed have to do with any thing, the point is that there are many people, including joseph smith, who have been killed because of there belief in the truth

Hope you are well.

Let’s bring up a couple of things told to me by Mormons. You have a person who presides over the church and can speak with authority in the same manner of the Pope. Mormons claim that Jesus came to North America though there is no evidence of this at all. Mormons have twenty year old men running around claiming to be elders though they meet none of the qualifications of that post. Mormons claim the Peter was the Rock of Mathew 16 and not Jesus. Joseph Smith died in a gun battle. A far cry away from Stephen’s and my Lord’s death.

These are all things that came directly from an LDS mouth.

The book of Mormon contradicts the Bible. I could present other evidences based on what I have read regarding the false religion. But I limit myself to these as I was told these things first hand.

Love,

John

Your’s in Brotherhood and Christ,
ZKG

Hi hope you are well.

Now where do you draw the line? So following the book of Mormon is okay? Well maybe being a Moslem is okay then too because they believe in Jesus as a prophet? Well maybe being a hindu is okay too cause they believe in many gods and one of them could be Jesus?

No the Bible is clear that we are not to add to the book or to preach another gospel.

In fact if we did things according to your standards everybody would be accepted. It would be fine to worship Moon or David Koresh. No there is a line and it is a very clear line. We are only to follow the teachings in the Bible. Other people like Calvin, Luther, Wesley and so forth have said things. But what they said is not inspired by God. What Joseph Smith did was say that he was inspired by God and gave new teachings. There is a vast difference. One in intrepreting scriptures while the other is creating scriptures.

Love,

John

4 For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully.

I would say this verse was written by the Romans, Constantine. God himself disagrees with what is written here. God has more to say.