One thing I always tell new and old Christians, please do not put anyone on a pedestal….I have people I really enjoy listening to and even support, but I put no faith in them…if they fall, they will not take me down with them..

Christ is our Rock and He will never fall and will NEVER let us down….

Blessings

Dev

I personally judge no one, as I know I am a sinner who is only saved by the Grace of God. Therefore, I don’t take a self righteous stance nor do I go around condemming others in public.

So readers if you have an open mind, read these blogs below; it a warning to all vulnerable and weak minded Christians who follow a particular person(s) or denomination or sect with a blind submissive faith.

http://www.christian-witness.org/archives/cetf1998/peniel.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-558365/Bishop-preached-family-values-finally-admits-I-adulterer.html

http://www.reachouttrust.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2036&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=30

http://www.thisistotalessex.co.uk/news/BRENTWOOD-Bishop-Reid-s-500k-pay-offer/article-349088-detail/article.html

Just like Hitler led millions to do his bidding without question it seems even in these days people can be so easily led without using their intelligence or commonsense; even when they know deep down something is not right. Never be frightened to question what you don’t feel at ease with. And if people don’t listen to you, have the courage to walk away.

I am personally reclusive, so many times, I do not come across the information you do. Sometimes, it is just God and me all day. Peaceful.

I do recognize the “oneness” thing when it is mentioned. I naively spent time in a church like that, then noticed they said really weird things that were not in the bible. I really liked everyone, but I still left.

Their idea is since they do not understand the Godhead, it must be a heresy. So they actually think you guys are the heretics.

Another reason all this false doctrine stuff concerns me is that I normally work with unbelievers. They are really nasty and will attack me for what they see on TV. Sigh… I try to explain I do not approve of that, then they point out all the people that support it. This makes me look like I am part of it, but I am not.

Fortunately, once, after getting savagely attacked at work, and after I repeatedly replied that I loved the other person back, the unbeliever made an incredible comment. He said, you sure do not act like other Christians I know. You are really different. You are actually not too bad.

Relief….I explained that I try to be the way Jesus wants me, not the way man wants me.

After that, it was kind of cute sometimes. I work with students. They were listening (of course).

So when they heard me telling the verbally abusive guy that I loved him back, they all chirped in, we love you too.!! He then responded…Ok I love you too. Now get back to work…!! There was another student that said “Jesus loves you!” The guy was flustered, but good natured about it by then.

The students liked to watch me get attacked, to see what I would say. Then they would join in like a bunch of little parrots. So I guess we can all have an influence. Sometimes I take a lot of beatings since I work primarily with atheists.

I keep hoping the atheists were the only mission field for me, since they were so rough. Then my heart extended to the Jews. I figured that was more than enough.

Then lately, I have felt inclined to go into issues that would explain jesus as the son of God to not just jews, but muslims as well. That and my theory that the antichrist is a muslim. Trying to expose Islam draws creatures out of the woodwork. That has made the water heat up rather quickly. But I continue on, and pray for wisdom as I go.

Hi hope you are well.

When Baranabas and Paul had their dispute over Mark they both went their seperate ways. Yet each continued to do the work of the Lord. Do not diminish what this blog does in any way. As I understand it two of the main bloggers Job and IC were once a part of these ministries that this site attempts to expose.

Obviously these ministries suck in a lot of gullable people. If this wasn’t true the ‘false’ preachers couldn’t afford mansions and private jet planes. I don’t watch them on tv but if I go to the Christian book store I see their books up and down the shelves.

Let me tell you a story about myself. When I was seventeen I started thinking about God. I was raised Catholic but had never read the Bible. So one night after my parents were sleeping I snook quietly to the book case and snatched the Catholic Bible that had laid there undisturbed for years. Being totally ignorant I opened the Book to any chapter. Unfortunately for me I turned to the Apocrypha and started reading the stord of Daniel and the Dragon of Bel. (Read it if you have the time.) It is a story that was really stupid. It is amazing I read the entire chapter. I put the Bible back on the shelf with the conclusion “Man this book is really dumb”. If only as three years later I had turned to the book of Mathew and started reading there.

So what happens when somebody is flipping through the channels late at night feeling bored. And then they turn on one of these ‘false’ ministers. The same thing that happened to me, they come to the wrong conclusion about Christianity. I was talking to my old boss about God and his conclusion was that all churches were just out to get money! So he conviently dismissed God.

There are many parts of the Body and each has a different role. Perhaps exposing false preachers isn’t yours. But do not pass judgement for this service done on behalf of the Lord. After all we all must face God individually alone.

Besides the topics on the blog will cross over into many other areas. Job is very open and allows all sorts of opinions to be presented. It is truly a forum to exchange ideas and to learn about those who are different than yourself.

Love,

John

Some of these ministries I watched on TV. Others I learned about from studying websites similar to mine like http://sliceoflaodicea.com and http://pulpit-pimps.org. And others are names given to me by various people that they wish for me to research and discuss.

Well, about the “reclaim the church for Jesus Christ” … truthfully Jesus Christ will not allow anyone to take His sheep out of His Hand! So, we do not have to reclaim that Jesus Christ already own. But some of Christ’s sheep are deceived, and our job is to warn, educate, and encourage them. It was on http://sliceoflaodicea.com that I learned that TD Jakes was oneness, and it was through a couple of televangelists that I learned that the Crouch family (TBN) were wicked and that the prosperity doctrine was wrong. So as members of the Body of Christ, we are to do our job, and our job is to speak out. If we are speaking the words of the Bible, it will go out and do what God intends it. And it does accomplish corrective action.

Some people have websites that are exclusively dedicated to exposing false preachers and doctrines. Some have websites that are exclusively dedicated to teaching correct doctrine, and some of those also recommend preachers. Others more or less do a mix. Really, going after false preachers is only a small part of what I do on this website, which was originally intended to be about spiritual warfare, spiritual deliverance, faith healing, prophecy, exhorting people to bold action in these areas, etc. but I got away from it and started talking more about theology. (It was in the course of looking for some more spiritual warfare type of things, to try to get back into what the site was originally about, that I found your website and linked to one of your articles.) I dealt with false preachers because it is a part of spiritual warfare: the Bible makes it clear that false preachers deal in evil spirits! What does the Bible call false doctrines? Devils’ doctrines! But unfortunately, even though only a small percentage of this website is dedicated to false preachers, it is those articles that draw the vast majority of the traffic, most of whom never see the other material on the site and as a result gain a distorted view of this site’s purpose, which is to honor Jesus Christ and tell people of Him. That fact troubles me greatly, but hey, what can I do?

Yes, more can be done. But the primary thing in my opinion should not be fighting battles with people who are members of churches, profess to be Christians, and will come up with 999 excuses why they do not have to obey what the Bible says. With those folk, you just tell them the truth and move on. If they are truly saved, the Holy Spirit will vex and grieve them; God will chasten, correct and rebuke them. So, the focus of the “more than needs to be done” is preaching the gospel to the lost. That really is what the apostles spent most of their time doing. We do not get that picture from the New Testament – save perhaps for Acts – because with the exception of Acts and the gospels, the New Testament is occasional letters written to churches to deal with local situations. Our primary activity should not be contending with prideful people and their hard hearts and stiff necks, but rather finding people whose hearts are open to the true gospel. I actually did intend for this website to be heavily evangelistic, and that is why I spend so much time commenting on secular topics and use so many tags and categories.

But ultimately, you are correct, websites can never replace person to person evangelism. That is an area that I admit that I have to do a much better job.

I wonder with all this discussion,

what can be done (by those do who have these complaints) about untrue ministries,

so that corrective action is accomplished?

I wonder with all this discussion, what can those do who have these complaints about untrue ministries?

Do we just sit around and talk, or is there more that can be done, to reclaim the church for Christ?

marianne
http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/