Comments on: On The Potential Reunification Of The Russian Orthodox Church And The Roman Catholic Church http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/02/19/on-the-potential-reunification-of-the-russian-orthodox-church-and-the-roman-catholic-church/ That every knee should bow and every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father! Thu, 07 Jan 2010 04:20:37 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: The Prodigal Son http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/02/19/on-the-potential-reunification-of-the-russian-orthodox-church-and-the-roman-catholic-church/#comment-36029 The Prodigal Son Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:56:27 +0000 http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/02/19/on-the-potential-reunification-of-the-russian-orthodox-church-and-the-roman-catholic-church/#comment-36029 ... So who were the Saints to whom the (one) faith was delivered to ? ~~~ ~~~ St. Andrew founded the Church of Constantinople... St. Mark, the Church of Alexandria... St. Paul, the Church of Antioch... Sts. Peter and James, the Church of Jerusalem... Sts. Peter and Paul, the Church in Rome... ~~~ ~~~ Through the missionary work of these first Churches were also founded the Churches of Sinai, Russia, Serbia, Greece, Bulgaria, Romania and successively many others... Each of these Churches is independant in administration, but - with the exception of the church of Rome, which seperated in heresy from the others in the year 1054... all are united in faith, doctrine, Apostolic tradition, sacraments, liturgies and services... together these Churches constitute the Orthodox Christian Church. ~~~ ~~~ ... The term Orthodox is derived from two Greek words... : 1) Orthos, meaning right/correct... and 2) Doxa, meaning teaching/worship... and within this Church, resides all truth. … So who were the Saints to whom the (one) faith was delivered to ? ~~~ ~~~ St. Andrew founded the Church of Constantinople… St. Mark, the Church of Alexandria… St. Paul, the Church of Antioch… Sts. Peter and James, the Church of Jerusalem… Sts. Peter and Paul, the Church in Rome… ~~~ ~~~ Through the missionary work of these first Churches were also founded the Churches of Sinai, Russia, Serbia, Greece, Bulgaria, Romania and successively many others… Each of these Churches is independant in administration, but – with the exception of the church of Rome, which seperated in heresy from the others in the year 1054… all are united in faith, doctrine, Apostolic tradition, sacraments, liturgies and services… together these Churches constitute the Orthodox Christian Church. ~~~ ~~~ … The term Orthodox is derived from two Greek words… : 1) Orthos, meaning right/correct… and 2) Doxa, meaning teaching/worship… and within this Church, resides all truth.

]]> By: The Prodigal Son http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/02/19/on-the-potential-reunification-of-the-russian-orthodox-church-and-the-roman-catholic-church/#comment-36028 The Prodigal Son Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:30:04 +0000 http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/02/19/on-the-potential-reunification-of-the-russian-orthodox-church-and-the-roman-catholic-church/#comment-36028 ... Unfortunately, the Protestant reformers did not return to the Orthodoxy... but instead drifted even FARTHER away from the truth. Not only that, but since then there has been within Western & European Christianity a further splintering and re-splintering with more and more new 'denominations' (errors) emerging out of nowhere... ~~~ ~~~ The Protestants too were fond of quoting Jude :3, which makes me want to ask them and you, Job... Who were the Saints ? Who among Christians STILL carry on in the teachings and traditions of the Apostles ? ... (hint : it's NOT Roman Catholics OR Protestants OR any of the subsequent resulting 'denominations' in North America & Europe !) … Unfortunately, the Protestant reformers did not return to the Orthodoxy… but instead drifted even FARTHER away from the truth. Not only that, but since then there has been within Western & European Christianity a further splintering and re-splintering with more and more new ‘denominations’ (errors) emerging out of nowhere… ~~~ ~~~ The Protestants too were fond of quoting Jude :3, which makes me want to ask them and you, Job… Who were the Saints ? Who among Christians STILL carry on in the teachings and traditions of the Apostles ? … (hint : it’s NOT Roman Catholics OR Protestants OR any of the subsequent resulting ‘denominations’ in North America & Europe !)

]]> By: The Prodigal Son http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/02/19/on-the-potential-reunification-of-the-russian-orthodox-church-and-the-roman-catholic-church/#comment-36027 The Prodigal Son Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:18:47 +0000 http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/02/19/on-the-potential-reunification-of-the-russian-orthodox-church-and-the-roman-catholic-church/#comment-36027 There can be no reconciliation with Rome ! It has been almost 1000 years since Rome left the true Church ! In order for there to be any reconciliation between the vatican and the true Church, Rome must renounce their own errors... and return to the faith once delivered ! The pope - proclaiming himself to be infallable - will never do this... demanding for himself authority over ALL Christians... which the Orthodox will NOT submit to. For Orthodox, Christ is the head of the Church... not the pope. ~~~ ~~~ Put simply, the Roman Church is dead... They are no Church of Christ... and that has been obvious by their fruits... their lies, their pedophilia, all this 'kissy-kissy' with the Jews... ~~~ ~~~ Peter's chair is overturned, the vatican has been usurped by the money changers... the Orthodox recognized this, and so did the Protestants ! There can be no reconciliation with Rome ! It has been almost 1000 years since Rome left the true Church ! In order for there to be any reconciliation between the vatican and the true Church, Rome must renounce their own errors… and return to the faith once delivered ! The pope – proclaiming himself to be infallable – will never do this… demanding for himself authority over ALL Christians… which the Orthodox will NOT submit to. For Orthodox, Christ is the head of the Church… not the pope. ~~~ ~~~ Put simply, the Roman Church is dead… They are no Church of Christ… and that has been obvious by their fruits… their lies, their pedophilia, all this ‘kissy-kissy’ with the Jews… ~~~ ~~~ Peter’s chair is overturned, the vatican has been usurped by the money changers… the Orthodox recognized this, and so did the Protestants !

]]> By: Job http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/02/19/on-the-potential-reunification-of-the-russian-orthodox-church-and-the-roman-catholic-church/#comment-32706 Job Sat, 20 Sep 2008 21:14:23 +0000 http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/02/19/on-the-potential-reunification-of-the-russian-orthodox-church-and-the-roman-catholic-church/#comment-32706 Asimplesinner: Thank you for the information. Would you have a post or a link that better describes these current events? A huge increase in the Chinese and Muslim population of eastern Europe would also be fascinating to ponder. Thank you! Asimplesinner:

Thank you for the information. Would you have a post or a link that better describes these current events? A huge increase in the Chinese and Muslim population of eastern Europe would also be fascinating to ponder. Thank you!

]]> By: asimplesinner http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/02/19/on-the-potential-reunification-of-the-russian-orthodox-church-and-the-roman-catholic-church/#comment-32704 asimplesinner Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:20:03 +0000 http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/02/19/on-the-potential-reunification-of-the-russian-orthodox-church-and-the-roman-catholic-church/#comment-32704 If you are of the thinking that Moscow is eager to meet with Rome, you aren't reading too many accurate headlines these days. Moscow would not allow Pope John Paul II to come to Russia during an era when even the Saudi kings visited him at the Vatican, and Syria welcomed him. Sure the numbers for Catholics in Europe look bad. Good reason for that - they are! The birth rate has plummeted, the population has aged, and secular culture has taken pride of place. That being said, if you get a chance to visit Africa or Asia, try finding a seminary without a waiting list or a parish where there are not multiple baptisms every week. Your contention that this is some sort of ploy to "regroup and regain some demagraphic" is odd... Especially given that Russia would be about the LAST place to look for neo-Catholics. Why? They are declining at a rate of 700,000 a year. Every decade that passes sees 7M+ FEWER russians while those in the errors of islam continue to have babies, and by 2010 10M+ Chinese will have quietly crossed the borders to resettle in the now desolate Siberia & Russian Far east. by 2025, I would not be the least bit surprised to see a semi-autonomous Chinese state in what is now Siberia and the Russian Far east. Conspiracy theories are fun, but the notion that the Russian Bear and the Vatican are about to embrace and attempt to reconquer Europe... You missed the mark by a mile on this one. If you are of the thinking that Moscow is eager to meet with Rome, you aren’t reading too many accurate headlines these days.

Moscow would not allow Pope John Paul II to come to Russia during an era when even the Saudi kings visited him at the Vatican, and Syria welcomed him.

Sure the numbers for Catholics in Europe look bad. Good reason for that – they are! The birth rate has plummeted, the population has aged, and secular culture has taken pride of place. That being said, if you get a chance to visit Africa or Asia, try finding a seminary without a waiting list or a parish where there are not multiple baptisms every week. Your contention that this is some sort of ploy to “regroup and regain some demagraphic” is odd… Especially given that Russia would be about the LAST place to look for neo-Catholics.

Why?

They are declining at a rate of 700,000 a year. Every decade that passes sees 7M+ FEWER russians while those in the errors of islam continue to have babies, and by 2010 10M+ Chinese will have quietly crossed the borders to resettle in the now desolate Siberia & Russian Far east. by 2025, I would not be the least bit surprised to see a semi-autonomous Chinese state in what is now Siberia and the Russian Far east.

Conspiracy theories are fun, but the notion that the Russian Bear and the Vatican are about to embrace and attempt to reconquer Europe… You missed the mark by a mile on this one.

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