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Time To Face Reality: Replacement Theology Is True!

Posted by Job on September 29, 2007

I am concerned with the full – throated denunciations of replacement theology by evangelical and liberal Christians. The reason is that doing so almost inevitably leads down the path that starts with de – emphasizing important and fundamental Christian doctrine and ends with dual covenant theology. Why are we so afraid of causing offense to our Jewish friends on this matter? We should respect their feelings, but we cannot allow our doctrines to be governed by said feelings. And moreover, why are do we give any more considerations to the feelings of Jews than we do Muslims, Hindus, wiccans, etc.? Do we feel that Jesus Christ is the only way to God and eternal life or don’t we? Thus, if Judaism will not result in the salvation of a person from an eternity in the lake of fire, then what profit is there in it? In what way is it superior to satanism or witchcraft?

There is a point to my absurd reductionism here. One of the things that began to turn me away from the ministry of John Hagee was when he started having Orthodox rabbis on his show, and they would actually discuss things concerning God and scripture. Of course, Jesus Christ was never mentioned. Hagee knew perfectly well that the rabbis that he was putting on his TV show will go to the lake of fire for eternity unless he accepted Jesus Christ as his savior. Would Hagee have put a Muslim or Mormon on his show and talk about scripture with them? After all, you can talk about Jesus Christ in front of a Mormon or Muslim all you want and they won’t get the least bit offended! Of course not! Now as it was from Hagee that I first learned of the term “replacement theology” and how awful it was – responsible for the Holocaust he claims – and now I am wondering if it is all a scam. After all, has Hagee had Messianic Jewish rabbis on his show? Gary Hedrick, one of the most prominent Messianic Jews in this country, is right in Hagee’s San Antonio. If he has, I never saw them, and the answer is almost certainly no because affiliating with Messianic Jews would end Hagee’s political relationships with AIPAC and similar concerns in America and Israel that he has used to become quite influential.

But wait, you say, Jews and Christians worship the same God, so my comparison with Muslims, Mormons, and certainly satanists is wrong. No we don’t. The only way that you worship God is in spirit and in truth (John 4:22-24), which means that God can only be worshiped in the manner that He tells us to. When Christ spoke those words to the Samaritan woman, he was summarizing the commandments given to the Jews in the Torah where God commanded that their worship of Him not emulate the practices of pagan religions, so Christ did not give a new revelation in this regards: it is integral to Judaism (Christians, regrettably, have been more than willing to syncretize our worship with pagan and humanistic beliefs and practices unfortunately). So what did God say in John 14:6? “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” In this dispensation, the only way to worship God is to acknowledge Jesus Christ as God and worship the Father through Him with the Holy Spirit as the Intercessor. Now of course, the Jews were doing this in the Old Testament, but had no knowledge of it. But when that knowledge was revealed to them, they rejected it. As such, since they refuse to worship Jesus Christ as God, then they are not worshiping the true God. Christians that pretend otherwise, quite frankly, are either dual covenant theologists or are giving silent assent to what they know to be a lie. The New Testament, especially Hebrews and Romans, states repeatedly that there is no profit to the religion of the Jews without Christ.

Ah, but Christianity came from Judaism so we have to respect it, they say! As a matter of fact, it is becoming quite fashionable in recent times to say that Jesus Christ never intended to start a new religion. Well, that line of thinking actually helps replacement theology, because Jesus Christ explicitly stated that His purpose was to fulfill the law and that the Jews should forsake what they were practicing before and to follow Him, for He alone was the way. Even after the term “Christian” was first applied to the largely Gentile church at Antioch, it was not applied to Jews that believed upon the resurrection of Yeshua HaMashiach. Rather, they were called “the way” or “Nazarenes.” During the early part of Christ’s ministry, He tried to convince the Jews that the kingdom at heaven was at hand and to follow Him. It was only after He was rejected by Jews that He laid the foundation for the church (Himself) by intensively training and teaching the apostles.

Christ obviously tried to replace the Judaism of the day with worship that acknowledged Him as the Son of God but was rejected, see John 5:18Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.” After the Jews rejected the Stone, Christ built the church to take on the role that the Jews rejected. By virtue of the church doing what the Jews would not do, their entering the Promised Land when the Jews forbeared as their forefathers did when they left Egypt and as a result all save Joshua and Caleb died in the wilderness (a remnant that pretty much represents the Messianic Jews of today), clearly the church assumed the role that was originally intended for Israel, and in real spiritual terms replaced Israel. The church is now the vehicle by which God’s Will is done and His Presence made known upon the earth. Claiming otherwise is to deny the entirety of the New Testament.

Now this is where I part ways with Hank Hanegraaf and a great many other Christians that deeply resent Jews and in particular the nation of Israel, and as such have to basically declare Revelation to be mere political resistance literature to justify their antipathy (completely ignoring that Revelation expounds upon Matthew 24 and the endtimes teachings of Paul, Jude, and the other epistles from John). First, you have Romans 11:1-2a. “I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew.” And even more so, you have what makes my comparisons with Judaism and other religions extremely problematic superficially. Romans 3:1-4 reads “What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God. For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.”

Yes, the Mosaic covenant is broken and done away with. Not that you would ever know that from listening to John Hagee, who not only preaches the false prosperity doctrine based on it, but actually claims that Christians will be cursed under the terms of the old covenant for not tithing. But the covenant with Abraham is still in effect! Genesis 12:1-3 reads “Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father’s house, unto a land that I will shew thee: And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.” Now please realize that the portion in bold has already been fulfilled by way of Jesus Christ, the one who brought salvation to every nation, was a descendant of Abraham. But the rest? It is still very much in effect.

So, did I bring a curse upon myself by saying that Jews do not worship the same God as we do and there is no difference between being a Jew and a satanist? How did I avoid transgressing Romans 3:1-4? Simple. My former statement was confirmed in Romans 2:16-29. Please notice such excerpts from that passage as “For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written” and “For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.” As for my latter statement, I limited its terms to eternal salvation only.

But even as the church is incontrovertibly the spiritual and true descendants of Abraham, it is equally incontrovertible that because of God’s unconditional covenant with that same Abraham that in a natural sense his descendants are God’s chosen, elect people. This was demonstrated by the fact that God, even after their breaking the covenant and taking away the natural monarchy (the spiritual Davidic monarch, the true monarch, is Jesus Christ), God still restored them to their land. Some would say that the chosen status was entirely transferred to Jesus Christ, who became the personification of Israel. As such, those who are saved are in Christ and therefore are spiritually “living in Israel.” I do not disagree. But the problem is that a spiritual single reference interpretation does not solve the problem of Romans 3:1-4. There has to be a dual reference interpretation: one that applies naturally to the Jews and spiritually to the church. That certain Christians are unwilling to do that and in the course of doing so reject Revelation (and with it not only the long line of prior prophetic and eschatological passages that serve as the foundation of Revelation, but also the warnings to the churches in Revelation 2 and 3 and virtually everything straightforward that we know about the final resurrection and judgment) is not replacement theology. Rather, it is simply rejecting parts of scripture that they find disagreeable. The re – establishment of Israel proves that Romans 3:1-4 is true and that Genesis 12:1-3 is still in effect.

That isn’t a problem with me, because if Romans 3:1-4 and Genesis 12:1-3 are true, then it means that John 3:16 and Romans 10:9-10 are true too, and therefore that I am going to be with God for eternity rather than in the lake of fire. But it is a problem for a great many professed Christians who root for the collapse of the state of Israel (starting with its self – immolation by way of making a peace deal with Palestine) because to them that would prove that Genesis 12:1-3 has been transferred away from the Jews and to them. Why? Simple jealousy. They cannot stand being second place in any context. It doesn’t matter that their being second place is only for a time so that the very same God that they are trusting for their salvation based on His Word can keep the promise that He made with Abraham and thereby be true to that very same Word. But regardless of what they tell themselves in their rebellious hearts, Genesis 12:1-3 is still true. Because of Genesis 12:1-3, God is not through dealing with the Jewish people and the nation of Israel. Because of the promise to Abraham, the Jews and Israel are still going to be the central characters and have the leading role as the last days of history play out.

What will that role be? The end will not come until Israel, as a nation, undoes the wrong that they committed about 2000 years ago by accepting Jesus Christ as their Messiah and their God. Revelation 1:7Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.” Messianic Jew Randy Weiss of Crosstalk.org theorizes that this will happen when the entire nation of Israel in unison cries out to God in to save them from the armies that come against them during Armaggeddon. According to Weiss, the whole nation will be screaming “God save us!”, at which time Jesus Christ will return and do just that. At that time will be impossible to deny, for the Hebrew Name of Jesus, Y’shua, means “God saves.” How will they be forced to acknowledge that it is the Christian Jesus Christ rather than the Messiah that rabbinic Judaism teaches that they are still awaiting? Well, “and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him” would tend to mean that the wounds in His side and hands, the same ones that doubting Thomas said that he had to see and touch before he would believe, will still be there. In that respect, just as Judas Iscariot was the prototype for the members of his nation that rejected Christ and will eternally perish up until that day, Thomas was the prototype for the members of the Jewish nation that have been predestined by God to survive the great tribulation, see Jesus Christ on that day, repent, and be saved: those that will never believe unless they see (John 4:48) what the church believed without seeing and are called blessed because of it.

Why must history play out in this fashion? Think not of it in terms of the Jews being so special. (Which is not to say that the Jews AREN’T special; they just are, OK, so you just have to accept that and if you cannot well then it is on your head.) Instead, it is all about GOD. It is all about GOD being glorified for His Great Name’s sake. Please recall when Moses made his intercession for the children of Israel after they sinned in the desert. What did Moses say? Think of destroying Your nation would mean for YOUR NAME; how it would be viewed by Egypt and the other nations of the world. Does God need vindication, acknowledgment, and glorification from whom He desires to seek it? No. But does He WANT and DESERVE it? Of course He does. So for the sake of His Own Name and His Own Son, God is not going to countenance corporate rejection by His own elect nation, the very nation that He chose to bear His Name (1 Kings 8:29). If you want to say “Well now the church is God’s nation that carries His Name” … well OK then why didn’t God just destroy Israel in the desert? After all, He would have still had Moses to carry on the promise to Abraham through.

Whether their number will be great or small, Israel will as a nation accept Jesus Christ before the nations of the world so that God will be glorified. And it is because of that, the Will and Glory of God, that the church HAD to replace Israel spiritually but CANNOT replace Israel naturally.

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22 Responses to “Time To Face Reality: Replacement Theology Is True!”

  1. I would like to comment on a few key points of Hagee’s gospel…
    1. He has glorified the state of “Israel”, not the G_d who created Israel or the world.
    2. He has proclaimed that if it wasn’t for the Jewish people we wouldn’t have the bible, but it is actually G_d who gave us his word.
    3. He has proclaimed that if it wasn’t for the Jewish people we wouldn’t have the messiah, but the bible says that G_d gave us his Son, not the Jewish people.
    4. He has proclaimed that anyone that comes against the Jewish people are under a curse and will be destroyed, but actually if anyone comes against G_d is under a curse and will be destroyed.
    5. He has proclaimed that G_d has an irrevocable covenant with these people, therefore G_d has already dealt with them, and they are ok in the eyes of G_d, but in actuality G_d will deal with them again because of their idolatry and leading the world to follow after Molach and Baal.
    6. He has proclaimed that Christians have not replaced the Jews as a replacement theology, yet the bible says that all who love and follow G_d and call on him will be saved, both Old Testament and New Testament says this.
    Hagee has proclaimed much, and mixing truth with error, he has created a new gospel that results to nothing more than “man worship!”
    He has shot his bow into the sky and proclaimed that the Jewish people are greater than the L_rd of Hosts. He has been warned serverely by the L_rd and has chosen not to repent. He has prostituted himself and all that follow his words.
    I would like all to understand that G_d doesn’t change, and no, we can not throw out the “Old Covenant”, and replace it with the new. They are in everyway interlinked. The Old Covenant called for sacrifice, the new covenant fulfilled it. The old covenant with it’s many rules and regulations could not be all done by imperfect people, and the new covenant makes it totally possible for us to Honor G_d, through Yeshua the messiah, who is his one and only son. We are not saved by following the scriptures and doing good works, but we are now able to Honor G_d with all the strength that our L_rd Yeshua provides, and he is faithful. There is none greater than Yeshua, and it was his pleasure to do the will of his Father. What does that mean? His will was that we would Honor and love the L_rd most high, and now that we have the strength that Yeshua provides, we can do the Father’s will. You will need the Old Testament to understand the Father’s will. We must follow and live as Yeshua lived.
    Hagee has decided to make a covenant with government leaders who do not know Yeshua, nor are they even Jewish.(There are Jews that live in Israel right now and there are Jews in the world, I am not saying that they are all not Jewish) That is a harsh statement, but then again, you will need to look into the Torah to see who G_d calls his people. For those who claim to be Jewish, all we need to do is look to the word of G_d to see the fruit of their lives, then we will be better able to judge who belongs to G_d as a covenant people. This goes for Jews and Christians. As far as most of these people in the “state of Israel”, they are in direct violation to the Torah and the testimony of Yeshua. Those who follow Torah have objected quite sharply to this government. They have become a terror to those who do love G_d and keep the Torah. In the book of Jeremiah, G_d shows Jeremiah two baskets of figs. In one were figs ripe and good for eating, in the other, were bad figs. There are Jews who are ripe and good, and those who are not, but where everyone seems to be confused, is that the nation of Israel was actually stolen by another type of people…these that took the land were not even Jews. Hagee has been blinded by the idea that this “miracle” of the birth of a nation is direct biblical prophecy. Untrue, it is not a fulfillment of scripture, but the word of G_d was used to manipulate history and take the land, then make that claim. Anyone can manipulate people into believing something, but it is G_d who uses this manipulation to bring about his words of prophecy in a way that was unexpected, because those who look at the scripture do not see or hear. (The miraculous sign of the nation of Israel being born in a day as a fulfillment of scripture is the work of demons, and the state being born in a day is what Revelations is talking about with “signs and wonders”, and they would all follow the beast!)
    These people who think they can manipulate scripture are actually helping to fulfill their own fate, and all will see it. G_d has a plan that will blow theology and the battle over endless geneologies out of the water. Do not be deceived by everything that you hear in the news, or even see on tv. All believer’s in Yeshua the messiah must be careful how they listen. Throw your theology away and get into the word of G_d. Theology is a trap just like it was in the time of Yeshua. Pharasees had religion pegged. But Yeshua broke no command of G_d. He broke man’s regulations and rules. We must read the Old Testament to see that.
    As far as those who do carry the seed of Abraham and are of these tribes, his plan is clear, and it will not result in the end of a covenant with them. This is a part of his unfailing love for them. He does discipline them, but he draws them with cords of kindness. Hosea, and all the prophets are brimming with his love for them. In this, we should all have comfort.
    We must also get rid of any false understanding that the reason that Israel was sacked in 70 ad was because they rejected our L_rd Yeshua. Our L_rd is long suffering, slow to anger and abounding in love. But he can not tolerate idolatry. Worship of idols, or even man worship. This is what angers our L_rd enough to take his people into exile. It is not any different for Christians, for those who are grafted in and are adopted sons and daughters are under both the blessings and the curses of G_d. We must choose life, and not deny his son, or go off to worship idols. He is a holy G_d. He gave his commands to show all humanity the one true G_d who loves and cares for his creation. The law wasn’t made so that we might fall into sin, but so that we could show all the world that our G_d is a G_d who cares for us and takes care of us. It shows how we are to care for each other, the earth, the foreigner, the alien, the fatherless, the widow. It shows how we are to treat one another, and to glorify the only one who could produce the abundance of the earth. These days, the world, and I mean the whole world is under a servere drought, that is just getting worse. Do you see it? Probably not, because those in the business world they try not to touch on that subject because of their investers. How many people would pull their money out of the system if they understood that the crops were starting to fail? We have massive droughts (especially in Israel), blighted vineyards, poorly produced food supply, wheat shortages and on and on. Is anyone seeing this? Those who produce wine are coming up less and less crops, and what they get is blighted. They can not keep up with the demand, so instead of telling their investors, these new studies have just been produced telling the public that wine can increase your chance of getting cancer! This will cut down on the demand for wine. Scare tactics rather than the truth. Everyone is being told that we need to cut back on buying bottled water because of all the land fills, but it is because they are running out of water to sell. Everyone must wake up and see that we live in the belly of the beast. It is everywhere and it has a choke hold on everyone that believes in this system. It is bull worship and the whole world is suffering for it. Christians must follow Yeshua and listen carefully to his words. We are called to follow him, because he knew that this was going to happen.
    Will we follow him? Will we once again become a people like in the book of Acts? It is going to get worse, but none should be surprised. We must look to him for how we are to live in these days. For some it is the last days, but for me it is the fulfillment of days.
    The ten lost tribes of Israel were scattered, and joined the nations. Many took on the culture of the Assyrians and Babylonians. This should be a hint to what is coming. Many of the Ancient cities that came against the people of Israel and Judah were destroyed…very true, but when these children of Israel were taken into captivity, many forgot the L_rd their G_d and were joined to the nations. This is the fruit of the Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Greeks, Romans, Spartans, and so on.
    Now I would like those who are interested to do two things. First, look at the British royal line, because they are very proud of their long standing liniage to the Jewish people, and also look in the search engine for “the lost ten lost tribes of Israel”. See what you find. Then I would like you to look at all their accomplishments, where they come from and what they have done in history, and compare it to the word of G_d. While you are comparing, I would like you to read a few of the prophets…first read Nahum, then Zephaniah, then Zachariah. We tend to extract only what we want to apply to our lives as the promises of G_d, but I would like you to look at the whole book of Nahum and ask yourself “Who are the Ninavites?” How can you know who they are if they were distroyed? They are alive and well! But we must not always just look to the land itself, we must look at the fruit. All the lands that surround Israel right now are positioned to fulfill G_d’s purposes, yet the fruit is different than that of the ancient lands. Read all about our times in Nahum. The fruit of the ancient Ninavites lives throughout the world. That of Babylonia as well as Egypt. That is were we have to use our eyes and wisdom that comes from G_d to see that the scriptures in the Old Testament just may help save your life. We must acknowledge G_d and give him the praise, because he always tells us the end from the beginning.

  2. [...] think I was not clear enough in my original email to both of you. I actually lean towards replacement theology (the idea that the Church is now the Israel of God and the physical Israel is no longer the Chosen [...]

  3. [...] I think I was not clear enough in my original email to both of you. I actually lean towards replacement theology (the idea that the Church is now the Israel of God and the physical Israel is no longer the Chosen [...]

  4. Donald said

    I find it interesting that “christians” are saying that the “church”, has “replaced” Israel. My question is how can something replace itself? What was “the church”, called in the O.T.? If it existed in the old as Israel, then we have missed something somewhere!!!!! It is sad that we have “all” gotten so far away from scripture.

  5. Dave said

    Donald, do you live in Texas?

  6. Devon said

    Job, I wasn’t aware that Hank Hannegraf had anything against the Jews per se? I know he is amill but I don’t think that makes anyone against the Jewish People or the modern state of Israel??

    Unless I am missing something Hank said??? I am Pre Mill myself but I am not exactly sure how modern Israel fits into eschatology…

    Dev

  7. Frank said

    I find it strange that no one quotes Jesus in Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken away from you, and shall be given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
    He was speaking to the Jewish leaders and gives two parables to illustrate this point. Then cross reference this with 1 Peter 2:9 where Peter clearly states that Christians are the people of God, a holy nation, using all the terms previously used in Scripture for the Jews.
    Plus, how many bodies does Jesus have? There is only ONE Body of Christ of which He is the head. In that body there is no Jew or Gentile, Greek or barbarian, male or female, we are all one in and with Him.
    The Great Commission of the Church is to make disciples of ALL the nations of the world. Israel is now one of those nations. It too will be discipled to the Lordship of Christ as will all the other 13,000 plus people groups, i.e. nations of the world. He will built His Church and the gates of hell with NOT prevail against it.
    Let’s stop arguing over Israel and different theories of end times and get this job done.

  8. rabbilawrence said

    The church my friends have not replaced Israel. Christianity is a club where if you are willing to walk blindly, you may become a member. If jesus is not the messiah [And I know that he is not!] where does that leave the church and its members? Why don’t you try starting with the book of Genesis page one.

    Christians like to believe that someone can have their blood spilled for them and all the sudden their sins are cleansed. when animal sacrifices were taken place in the Temple they were for iniquity that one had just commited, not for the future. Also, the sacrifices were for [unitentional sins].

    If you are so sure that jesus is your messiah [ he isn't mine] why don’t you teach your members the Torah and let them see for themselves.

    • Hello,

      Hope you are well.

      Did you come here to criticize or engage in discussion?

      Truth be told you Jews, if you care to use that name are a stiffed necked people to this day.

      Let me ask you is your authority just the Torah or does it include the Talmud?

      Love,

      John Kaniecki

      • rabbilawrence said

        Do you say we are stiff necked because we don’t accept the christian theology? Who is stiff necked anyway, the church along with their lies, forced conversions, or threats that one will go to hell if they don’t accept the god-man?

  9. Lawrence,

    Hi hope you are well. Exodus 32:9 God, Himself is calling the Jews stiffnecked. Why because they have rejected the true God for a golden calf. I thought you wanted us to look at the Torah? Even today many reject the true God for the god of mammon including many who call themselves Christians and Jews.

    Regarding Christianity the two greatest commandments are to Love God and Love neighbor. Thus anybody who fails to do so is teaching false doctrine. Thus the Catholic Church, the Puritans which engaged in Native American genocide, the Baptists who brutally enslaved people, have nothing to do with God.

    Stop judging by outward appearances!

    Love,

    John Kaniecki

    • rabbilawrence said

      You say that I should stop judging by outward appearances? You yourself have done that by saying our Jewish people are stiff necked. Why is it that church goers as well as others like to constantly point to such things from Torah? When it comes to accepting the ONE TRUE G-D of Israel, to this you turn a blind eye?

      When it comes to passing the cup around for donations, this you do. When it comes to BLIND faith this you also do. Abraham didn’t have blind faith, he had KNOWLEDGE! So in the book of Genises chapter twelve, G-d directs Abraham to leave his homeland to a place he would be shown. This is quite different from walking blindly.

      G-d also warns His people concerning false prophets rather they were Jewish or Gentile. When a person has little or no knowledge of the Torah and the prophets it is easy to lead them on a the path of, “It just feels good.”

      Another issue at hand is the fact that for many generations, Jews have been bad mouthed in such a way that we are looked on with scorn. Jesus was just a man, nothing more. He isn’t returning, he isn’t the messiah, and he cannot atone for a single individual. There isn’t a second coming. He never had a first coming, other than being a simple huming being.

      There is no jesus bouncing off every page of the Jewish scriptures as many would like to believe. When the Messiah will come, believe you me, the world will know it. It is written in the prophets that the, ‘Knowledge of G-d will cover the earth like water covers the sea.’

  10. Lawrence,

    Hi hope you are well. Hoping to believe you are a man of honor and principles I will attempt to elaborate.

    Regarding my supposed statement about Jews being stiffnecked, it is none other than God saying this, not I! In addition I gave you a reason why. That is they forsook the true and mighty God which led them out of Egypt and took up the god a mammon. Anyone living their life to posses material thigns, regardless if they claim to be a Chrstiian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu, Budhist are rejecting the true God for mammon. No matter how they disguise it like the Purtian’s so called “health and wealth gospel.”

    What knowledge did Abraham have? Only that God spoke to him for good. Abraham then had the choice to trust God or not to trust God. Abraham trusted God. Are you telling me that when Abraham went to sacrifice Isaac he was not acting on faith? Do Abe see the angel before he raised hisn hand? There was only knowledge that you can trust God. Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not see. (Hebrews 11:1)I do not have a blind faith. I have been a Christian for over twenty years. Initially when I accepted the Bible as the Word of God perhaps my faith was blind. However when I did what was instructed and put them into practice my faith was proven. The Bible tells us to Love our neighbor and that we reap what we sow. In showing Love I found I received Love proving the Word of God to be true, even if in a very simplistic way. I have seen that God will never leave me nor forsake me in the twenty plus years I have walked with him. Thus my faith is far from blind. I can do as the Bible says “to Love one’s enemy”. Not that you are my enemy but clearly you are an enemy of the gospel.

    Just like Abraham the more one walks with God the more God reveals Himself, the deeper the trust in the relationship goes.

    I wonder do you follow the Talmud?

    If you care to have a meaningful conversation you will have to open up. Otherwise you will be just fooling yourself and wasting your time. I am confident that Jesus is Lord, that the Bible is the Word of God infallable and that every knee show bow before Him and every tongue confess that He is Lord. And that every knee includes both my knee and your knee Lawrence.

    May God bless you and I hope that we continue this discussion.

    Love,

    John Kaniecki

  11. Pattie Farm said

    Dear John

    In writing to a group of Rabbis’ down in Israel where the are faced with the thing God is about to bring I wanted to speak to a stiff necked Christian. What is wrong with you, hatred can not enter the kingdom of God. If God wasn’t for Israel why is it in the old testament? Why he come after her, Jesus came to full feel the first not to do away with it. You should get down and pray before God knocks you down.

    You know those that God loves he punishes. The sheep who go astray he breaks their legs and he hangs them around his neck. People all day long go to church and speak evil of others when they have more darkness in themselves than those they speak evil of, Jesus said the worse offense is to not have Love?

    Do you think God is going to destroy all he is going to destroy in the middle east and he have not love for Israel read the whole Bible not just the parts you like. Israel is the women, she is the church please pray and ask God to forgive you where do you live? Are you in the middle east.

    To all of those who are Jewish and are discouraged by these comments it is not hatred (I believe) but it is being unlearned or that the enemy satan is trying to ride upon our backs and we are told to resist him and he will flee from us. God corrects those that he loves, how much do you think he loves the Jews he took 6 million of them over 3 1/2 years exact, the same time the gentile shall go through her testing not the tribulation of the last 7 years. God is not a respector or persons. God mad the decisions of the Bible he is the head, he is in charge not flesh and blood. Our goodness is as filthy rags before him and we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

    I hope the Lord troubles you and reveals to you the things in these verses. He gave this to me today to share with the Rabbis’ who are under the old law and God wants them to come out. He has a desire that none should perish.

    Think about it, do you have a desire for your uncles, aunts, neices, nephews and other family members to be filled with the salvation of the Holy Ghost. Why can’t your mind comprehend that the Jews are the LORDs family?

    Men of God should use the word of God as salve it brings forth the healing, it doesn’t keep wounding. But the bible says a little bit of folly make the apothacary to stink.

    Isaiah 53:1-
    1. Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
    2. He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root only out of dry ground. he had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
    3. He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
    4. Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted.
    5. But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed.
    6. We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all.
    7. He was doppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth.
    8. By oppression and judgment he was taken away. And who can speak of his descendants? For he was cut off from the land of the living; for the transgression of my people he was stricken.
    9. He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death, though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth.
    10. Yet it was the LORD’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes his life a guilt offering, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.
    11. After the suffering of his houl, he will see the light (of life) and be satisfied; by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many, and he will bear their iniquities.
    12. Therefore I will give him a portion among the great, and he will divide the spoils with the strong, because he poured out his life unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors. For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
    13. “Sing, O barren woman, you who never bore a child; burst into song, shout for joy, you who were never in labor; because more are the children of the desolate woman that of her who has a husband,” says the LORD.

  12. Pattie,

    Hi hope you are well. The purpose of Isreal was to bring the Messiah, Jesus. He would be both for the Jews and Gentiles.

    People who Love God will do what God says.

    Love,

    John Kaniecki

  13. Devon said

    Rabbi Lawrence, I have to ask, are you a real Rabbi? If so, what group do you belong?

    Sorry for being nosy but my wife used to work at an Orthodox Jewish School here in Calgary called Akiva Academy for many years…she had a few different bosses…one was Orthodox Rabbi and the others were Hasidic Rabbis…..I got to know them fairly well though my wife was much closer to them…..she retired from that job years ago but still keeps in touch with one of the Rabbis who works now in Austrailia…

    Thanks

    Devon

  14. Teri said

    Shalom Lawrence, my brother,
    I can call you that, since I’m also a jew in the fullest meaning of this word. I believe in the only One true Living Eternal God, The Creator of the universe, the Holy One of Israel. I’m sorry for you to engage in those conversations…on the arguments of our limited minds we will not sail too far… But as you know all of us, humans, have חלק אלוה ממעלה -the spark of the Most High within us. I believe, that in His Word, the Most High is talking to this part in each one of us. I open myself to listen and follow – as much as I can. This my job – doing everything I possibly can and trusting that He will do His part. Remembering this might really help us not to miss the right track, but to advance in the way of peace and righteousness.
    With greatest love to our people, our Torah and our Maschiah,
    Teri

  15. John said

    The Jews of today are not even Israel and most are not even descended from
    Abraham. They are Pharisees mainly and follow the Talmud which is totally
    different to the Torah. That is why even in the days that Jesus was on earth
    he was so scathing of them even at that time. The promises of God were
    to Israel and not to Jews who are a different people, The current State of Israel is only political and only came into being through the politics of certain
    UK and USA politicians in 1948. The Jews HATE Christians and they HATE Jesus
    and declare that all Christians are very inferior beings. I do not hate Jews,
    but pray for them. The only way that either Jews or Gentiles can be saved
    is by accepting the work done on calvary by Jesus, and the rapture and
    premelemialism are totally ideas of men and not biblical.
    Israel because of their actions will not have any special future treatment from God. They were dispersed and their temple destroyed around AD70
    and the church(all born again of any race) are the new Israel as the bible states.
    Replacement theology is totally scriptural. Christians, spend your time
    being good witnesses and spreading the gospel and let God take care
    of the 2nd coming of Jesus, which is certainly going to happen at His
    appointed time. There will be no 3rd coming, only a 2nd coming when as
    the bible says both the saved will be given glorified bodies and the lost
    will sadly be punished..

  16. Susan said

    You are totally deceived, brother John.God says,” I will not be mocked! “Israel cannot possibly be just a political state! It was prophesied that God would disperse His people , and that He would restore them again to their land,, the land He gave them as a covenant.He also says that” He is the same , yesterday, today, and foreve” that “He is not a man that He should lie”.He never changes.His covenant with Israel is eternal. Have all you replacement theologists acknowledged that Jesus and the disciples were all Jews who taught from the Hebrew Bible, The Old Covenant,, as there was no New Covenant.If you knew Hebrew, perhaps you would better understand God’s word! Don’t forget that Paul admonishes you gentiles not to become proud or arrogant ,lest you be broken off just as the natural branches were, but”has God cast off His people forever?NO”.I am a Jewish believer, my Dad was a Cohen Jew from the tribe of Levi,in particular, descended from Aaron, the priestly line.Yes we know who we are, and the Descendents of Abraham are the Jews of today. God said in His Word, Romans6:8-15.”Esau I hated Jacob I love.” He said He hated Esau before Esau was born.God will choose who He chooses.How do you explain that the 144,000 Jews from each named tribe are in the book of Revelation? The Jehovah Witnesses believe they are them,Everyone wants to be Israel, yet no one can explain the existence of a nation after thousands of years of no existence,, who were dispersed throughout the earth, hated , reviled, murdered, expelled, and brought back , speaking a dead language,, all a solitary event in world history..Re Read Jeremiah 31:35and Romans 11.Israel is still the apple of God’s eye and He will bless those that bless them and curse those who curse them.He is the God of the Jews, not the Muslims, sorry. Romans 11:25-29. All this jew hating is nothing new.Why do you think the Jews have been persecuted and hated for centuries? It is satan who hates them, who wants to annihilate them as he tried to do through Haman Hitler, etc.It wasn’t until Constantine, that the Jewish roots were taken out at the Council of Nicea.Look into the early “church fathers’ and you will see a history of Jew hatred and of Hellenizing the body of believers who were all Jewish for the first century and more. If the church is Israel why was the whole Old Covenat wriitten as it is te majority of our Bible? Is God talking about t he church in the book of Daniel? Remember that we are to take on the FULL COUNSEL of God, mostof which is the Hebrew scripture.Yes, there is a better covenant through Jesus, but it has always been “to the Jew” first. Romans 11:18. Be careful, the Word says to “study to show yourselves approved”. May our Lord and Savior, open te spiritual eyes of your understanding. The Jews did not kill Jesus..We all did, it was our sins as humanity that He died for.No one kiled Him, He went to the cross because HE CHOSE to! That is the gospel.

    • TODD said

      Hi susan
      You said the Jews did not kill Jesus… we all did.
      God killed his son. It was his plan. In Isa. I believe it says it pleased the father to bruise him(Jesus his son)
      It was the divine plan from the beginning. Jesus was obedient to carry out his father’s will

  17. Phil Spinelli said

    Replacement theology and Reformed theology have this in common. Both take pieces of scripture to create an explanation that pleases their God of understanding for purposes other than the spread of the Gospel of God. They spread their own theologies instead.

  18. Sunny said

    Any one who read Deutoronomy 28 to Deutoronomy 30 and Ezekiel 36 to Ezekiel 39 cleraly understand that Replacement theology has nothing to do with Bible..but its origin is from Lucifer himself.

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