If Trinity Is Untrue Then So Are The Hebrew Scriptures
Posted by Job on August 4, 2007
Courtesy of Independent Conservative, The Trinity, a Godhead of 3 Persons, 3 That are the One True God, Proven via Hebrew Scripture
See Jewishness and the Trinity link here
Contrast this with the heresies, lies, and utter vanities of the Oneness Pentecostals, Mormon, and Jehovah’s Witnesses. Remember: their doctrines came from men, but salvation is of the Jews (John 4:22). You Jew hating replacement theologians need to remember where your Trinity doctrine – and everything else about your religion that is actually true as opposed to being some warmed over paganism – came from.
IndependentConservative said
Rabbi Stanley Greenberg did not write the article, it was written by Arnold Fruchtenbaum, the founder of Ariel Ministries. Fruchtenbaum opens the article with a quote by Rabbi Stanley Greenberg. Greenberg rejects the concept of the Trinity. Basically Arnold Fruchtenbaum is showing Rabbi Stanley Greenberg and other Jews, that the Trinity is in the scripture they hold sacred. Proving the Messianic Jews and Christians alike are following the One True God. God has proven Tri-Unity in scripture.
healtheland said
IndependentConservative: Wow, I do not know how I missed that! Thanks!
D.Wnn said
Then why does Moses say in Deuteronomy Chapter six verse four” hear o Israel the Lord our God is one”. Also, concerning baptism, when Matthhew says to baptize them in the (Name)of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, let me present this. If you are a man you could also be a son and a father, but father is not your name nor is your name son these are tiles. Your name would be that which was given to you at birth by your parents such as john or mark orluke. Also What are you going to do with Peter in Acts 2:38 Where he says to be baptized in the name of Jesus! Jesus is a Name! Also when you pray (those that are not Catholic do you always say In the name of the father, the Son ,and the Holy Gost or do you say in the name of Jesus. Or in an emergency, do you cry father, Son, and Holy Ghost or do you just call Jesus!
Ron said
I can’t believe what I am reading. Does any verse in the bible say “Trinity” or “Co-equal & co-eternal”? Is God man, God the son, true God from true God in there? No, of course not.
How about eternally begotten of the father? Is that in there? Not only are verses that if you want to stretch the truth very few in number but what about the 1100 you’d have to throw out of the NT just to attempt to substantiate it.
You mention part of Matthew 28:19 and yet the apostles never carried that out. That is because that is a forgery. It should read “in my name” according to several commentaries during and prior to the 4th century. In my name fits with what the records say in the book of acts.
Start reading what the bible say and not reading into it what you already perceive as truth. The trinity is nothing less than idolatry. There are no rewards for sin. Get it right.
There are no suspect verses that are not easily explained and they are few in number to begin with. Except of course to a stubborn heart. I used to believe in the trinity till I started to learn the scriptures. The trinity and all terms used to define it are completely non-scriptural.
Insistence on believing the trinity, a doctrine of devils, only substantiates the lack of biblical knowledge and understanding of God’s Word. I don’t care if someone has been to seminary for 10 years. They teach little truth. Theology is simply going to the scriptures with preconceived ideas and human philosophies to mix in with it resulting in error.
Grace and peace to you through the knowledge of God “and” our Lord Jesus Christ. [and.... a..n..d Not 'who is' the lord Jesus Christ]
Ron
Independent Conservative said
So Ron, is John 1 a forgery too? Which totally refutes your heretical claims.
The original Greek of Matthew 28:19 is consistent with “baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit”, not a “forgery”.
Ron said
Perhaps you should read and study instead of talking about the Bible.
I see, you don’t understand John chapter one either. Logos; translated word means the innermost thoughts of someone and the thought itself. If God meant Jesus in John 1:1+2 he certainly could have used it since Jesus is in His vocabulary.
Did you know ‘See’ in John 1:18 has to do with eye perception? Did anyone see Jesus the Christ? Of course they did.
But enough of the senseless arguing. Tell me why when God has put all under Christ, how Christ returns in subjection to Him who put all under him if he is co-equal and co-eternal?
If he was given authority, as he said, and then later it is gone how could he be God if he had to have it given to him and then when all is done it is gone??
You can continue with the senseless idolatry that is taking this nation down the tubes or you can start believing the truth and praying to whom Jesus did; The Father. The one true God; The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ; The one whom Jesus said is the only good one.
The bible is not english literature which we should freely misinterpret as a high school or college english class does butchering someones writings.
We are not given license by God to come up with our own interpretations. 2Peter 1:20 ; But must use only God’s word; not some ridiculous theologians philosophies and doctrines of men.
God Bless You Abundantly.
Ron in IL.