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Why I’d Vote For Ron Paul

Posted by Job on June 6, 2007

I am normally too apolitical to countenance most of the content on Townhall.com, but this link http://moyer.townhall.com/Default.aspx?mode=post&g=ec8f7d2d-5e0c-4d7d-8ebf-51c0ebad60c3 echoes my sentiments almost exactly. Why “almost”? Because I have certain disqualifiers which include support for abortion rights and gay marriage as well as membership in false religions and cults. Fortunately for me, Paul does not hit on any of my automatic disqualifiers. See cut and pasted text of article below:

Right now, if I had to vote, I would vote for Ron Paul.Most conservatives object to Ron Paul because of his stance on the Iraq war. Paul thinks we should withdrawal from Iraq as quickly as possible. Conservatives concede that his Washingtonian policy of “no foreign entanglements” is a sound one, but they fear his strong stance against the Iraq war translates into a weakness regarding national security. It may, I’m not sure. I don’t want to get into a discussion about Iraq right now. I don’t think because Ron Paul wants to leave Iraq it means he wouldn’t defend our country, it just means he might wait until it’s too late.What if Ron Paul’s foreign policy — which wouldn’t have us intervening in foreign disputes or engaging in “nation-building” — resulted in a country like Iran developing nuclear technology and handing a bomb off to a terrorist cell? What if it resulted in the detonation of a nuclear weapon on US soil? Our previous policies of preemptive and preventative intervention may have stopped this, while Paul’s policies allowed it to occur. This is the problem with Ron Paul.

“Moyer, you idiot, why would you vote for him?”

Well, it’s a hard decision to make, so I’ll explain myself. All of the Democratic candidates are socialists at this point. They don’t even try to hide it; they all want socialized health care and the living wage and every other socialist program you can imagine. The Republicans are only slightly better. They at least make an attempt to promote free markets but they end up growing the size of the government anyway. Except for Ron Paul, who at heart is a Libertarian.

The benefits of having a Libertarian as president, even for only one term, would be countless. Ron Paul wouldn’t just cut government size and spending, he would slay it. He would literally do as much as possible to destroy every socialist program in existence. Paul would change our country for the better in an even more significant way than Reagan.

That is why I would vote for Ron Paul. Every other Republican candidate talks about tax cuts and smaller government but if elected they would change little. A Libertarian would overturn years and years of socialization. That’s what America needs, desperately.

America is not going to crumble because we withdrawal from Iraq. America isn’t going to fall because of a nuclear attack (God forbid). America will fall because we will abandon our commitments to freedom and submit to government control and power in hopes of security and safety. I believe this country will crumble as a result of socialism from the inside long before any foreign force could defeat it from the outside.

At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years. At what point, then, is the approach of danger to be expected?
I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide. — Abraham Lincoln

And here is a great link on Ron Paul’s man (and soon to be joined by his wife) in New Hampshire:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/05/AR2007060502787_2.html?hpid=topnews 

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22 Responses to “Why I’d Vote For Ron Paul”

  1. Godwhacker said

    Well I do believe in abortion rights and gay rights and I support Ron Paul too, because he plans to treat all people equally.

  2. Godwhacker: Hmmm … do you believe in God?

  3. Bret said

    Please be aware that Iran having a nuclear weapon isn’t much different from the Soviet Union, France, the UK, India, or Pakistan having a nuclear weapon. If our troops weren’t on two of their borders, I imagine we’d be getting along a lot better with them. And, oh yeah, out of the middle east altogether… let the Saudis fight their own battles.

  4. Bret: “Please be aware that Iran having a nuclear weapon isn’t much different from the Soviet Union, France, the UK, India, or Pakistan having a nuclear weapon.” Under most circumstances I’d agree, but what makes Iran different from those countries is that the leader of Iran has publicly stated on multiple occasions that he will wipe off the map a nation that he has already been funding a terrorist group to shoot missiles into. Perhaps we could ignore Iran’s saying “Israel will disappear in a storm” (meaning, presumably, a nuclear one) if they weren’t funding and coordinating strategy with Hamas. Or we could ignore their funding and coordinating with Hamas if their leader hadn’t promised to wipe Israel off the map and were not denying the Holocaust. But all of those things taken together, Iran having the bomb is most certainly different from the US, France, and the UK having them, and even different from India and Pakistan having them. So, my issue with Iran having the bomb is that this situation would never be had it not been for our help, and that includes our putting the shah of Iran in power in the first place, and that is a fact that Ron Paul himself regularly speaks of as you can see here: http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2007/05/24/more-on-ron-paul-and-the-iran-blowback-did-the-us-create-the-middle-east-problem/

  5. If we take a pre-emptive posture we are more likely to get nuked. Look at Putin’s recent remarks about his concern for our empirialistic motions in the world. Ismalmic terrorism is merely a tool. We need to figure out who’s using them as a tool, like we did when we radicalized them to fight against the Russians.

    How come there is little being done to find and bring Osama Been Lunchin to justice?

    America has a very tall order to fill. We are soon to be faced with the same test our founding fathers faced in the Revolutionary War. God help us to get behind a president like Ron Paul who can bring in much needed reform and stem back the erosion of our Constitution before the hand of our enemy gets fully over what’s left of our republic. The longer this waits the worse the treatment we will need to get well again.

    Here’s the question that should be humbly researched. I’m not here telling you I know this is true, but as Americans we should make a reasoned inquiry into this question. Who benefits from all these wars? The State. Who is fomenting the wars? Well, those who benefit from them… Motive is always a critical aspect of any crime to solve.

    There are propaganda machines churning at full tilt around the world stirring us all up to anger. We of all nations should be exemplary in abstaining wherever possible to feed this beast. I know 9/11 was horrible but compare the lives lost in 9/11 to the number of lives lost to automobile accidents each year. Compare it to lives lost to cancer in one year. Let’s keep this all in perspective and keep our faith in the principles of freedom.

  6. Jason Wharton:

    The truth is that only God can deliver us, Israel, and the world from this Iran mess. And yes, having a true man of God in the White House would help matters greatly. What remains to be seen, though, is whether this nation WANTS a man of God in the White House. With Rudy Giuliani leading the polls right now, the indications seem to be “NO”. But we can pray for that to change. I certainly will be.

  7. Healthland:
    here is an article I penned concerning RP and the Evangelical Endorsement…the comments
    if they are still there are extensive and interesting.

    Who IS Ron Paul? They still need to know!!
    NOBODY explains Ron Paul
    BETTER than Ron Paul himself!

    Here is an interactive audio archive of
    Ron Paul speeches and interviews as a resource in chronological
    order.

    http://www.ronpaulaudio.com

  8. http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/23880.html

  9. SORRY….it’s this one!

    http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/23766.html

  10. joshua bruce l said

    Well I am a Christian who always considered myself a liberal. Only because of what i considered the hypocricy of right wing Christians. Now that i see a rightwinger like Ron Paul who is not a hypocrite I can suddenly agree with a lot of the republican policy i used to consider evil. In fact Ron Paul makes the democrats look suddenly evil. I am ready to be a republican if they practice what thet preach as Dr Paul has done. God Bless this man. I believe we are in a battle between good and evil, not america versus islam, but true christians versus the hypocrites that blasphemously distort Jesus’ message of love through nefarious acts and slaughter of the innocents.

  11. joshua bruce l: I was until very recently a proud member of the Christian right – and far right at that – and a very partisan Republican, but God brought me out of that evil. It is an exceptionally unfair question, but I must ask it of you. Do you believe that the Bible is the literally true inerrant and inspired Word of God, and the final authority in all matters? If not, I would be curious as to why you do not believe it to be so. If so, I would like to know how your Bible beliefs fit into the context of your liberalism. There are going to be all kinds of people in heaven, and there are obviously all kinds of people doing God’s Will on earth, and I want to know of what sort Christian liberals are doing and based on what theological foundation. If you feel that it is more appropriate to let me know such things privately, please contact me at bringjesusback@yahoo.com. Thank you!

  12. joshua bruce l said

    Hi Healtheland. I believe in the words of jesus Christ to guide my life not the apostle Paul as literal. I have heavy spiritual warfare in my dreams where i am battling demons etc.. I use Jesus’ name as protection. I do not claim to know which policies of either party are righteous. I grew up around homeless, drug addicted and mentally ill people, as well as normal people. So to me giving money to a homeless person or letting someone share your home, even if they are dirty is moral. Jesus was a warrior against the establishment, when i was younger i confused this with leftism (liberation theology etc) now I feel it is more important to use Jesus’ name and power to push back the tide of demons possessing poeple rapidly.

  13. joshua bruce l said

    Healtheland I didn’t even realize this site was dedicated to spiritual warfare, I just followed a Ron Paul link to get here. Just read your article on how to figh demons. I believe this is where my mission lies. In my dreams I lterally hold a crucifix to the foreheads of possessed individuals, and chant the name jesus in multiples of three. I used to be afraid and run but now i even let them attack me as I know i am immune, because of Jesus’ name. How do i use this kind of gift i feel i have in the real world? I’d like to talk more sometime.

  14. joshua bruce l: What problems have you with the Apostle Paul? You do realize that Apostle Paul communed with the disciples of Jesus Christ regularly, and his words are consistent with theirs. There was this fascinating scene where Paul had to rebuke even Peter because of Peter mistreating Gentile Christians, and Peter accepted Paul’s judgment and discipline. Further, this is VERY IMPORTANT: Paul was a Pharisee and a member of the Sanhedrin council. He was very schooled in Torah Judaism, and therefore he “got it.” Paul, John, and the writer of Hebrews understood how Jesus Christ fulfilled Judaism, and were able to seamlessly transfer Torah Judaism into Christianity. Now as far as your dreams go; I am certain that God is placing a call on your life. But first, you must subject yourself to the authority of God, and the authority of God is revealed to us in scriptures, all of which reveal to us Jesus Christ. As a matter of fact, the full name of Revelation is “The Revelation of Jesus Christ.” As far as how to do spiritual warfare in the real world … first off, the spiritual realm is more “real” than the real world, for God is a spirit, and He created all things in the spirit realm, including the natural realm. It is further interesting that you stated not having any regard for Paul, for the only example in entire Bible of anyone outside of Jesus Christ casting an evil spirit out of someone was Paul casting the demon out of the fortune – teller slave girl. What did Paul do? He told the demon to come out of the girl in the name of Jesus Christ. He spoke directly to the demon and commanded the demon using the Name of Jesus Christ. That is all you have to do. 1) Realize that you are dealing with a demon (which isn’t hard, because demons are everywhere and involved in almost very depraved and sinful behavior, especially in these last days) and 2) commanding the demons in the Name of Jesus Christ. When you say “Demon I bind you in the Name of Jesus Christ”, you are restricting the demon’s ability to operate within a person or an area. When you say “Demon I rebuke you in the Name of Jesus Christ”, you are verbally punishing the demon, actually hurting the demon. Now though binding, rebuking, and commanding to come out are the only commands recorded in scripture as spoken to demons, I would propose that you have a bit of leeway and can use modern plain English that you are more aware of and comfortable with, but I warn you … demons are not to be played with. They are not objects of fascination. Your dealings with them should be limited to commanding them in the Name of Jesus Christ to come out of a person and to never return to that person. Also, realize that actually directly interacting with demons is a small part of spiritual warfare. The most basic fundamental form takes place in your prayer life, when you pray for the people that God has placed in your sphere of influence. You pray for their salvation, you pray for their protection from evil and from Satan, you pray that the power of sin be broken over their lives. You also pray for cities, nations, leaders, etc. regarding conditions, etc. against war, poverty, disease, racism, anti – Semitism, etc. all of which are areas that very powerful demons called principalities and powers (again, written to us in Paul’s epistles) are intimately involved in. And yes, you have to read your Bible, thoroughly and regularly. The Bible is the Word of God, and it is Jesus Christ, the Word made flesh, that gives us the power to tread on serpents and scorpions (demons) through His Name.

  15. Will Moyer said

    Thanks for reproducing my post. Glad to see people agree with me. BTW, that townhall.com blog is a just a mirror of my real blog at http://willmoyer.blogspot.com/

    I’ve actually just written another article concerning the vote for ron paul.

  16. mlankfo said

    I think I’d vote for Rep. Ron Paul, MD too; however, his belief in evolution (http://www.shanktified.com/archives/ron-paul-campaign-on-evolution/) and his Pope praise are disheartening. Ron Paul: “I’m happy to witness so many politicians honoring a great man of God and peace [John Paul II].” (more @ the source: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul244.html)

  17. sduff68 said

    I just found the following on Ron Paul, the entire article is at the following link: http://www.latestpolitics.com/blog/2007/05/ron-pauls.html

    A 1992 newsletter by Republican congressional candidate Ron Paul highlighted portrayals of blacks as criminally inclined and lacking sense about top political issues.

    Reporting on gang crime in Los Angeles, Paul commented: “If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be.”

    Citing statistics from a 1992 study produced by the National Center on Incarceration and Alternatives, a criminal justice think tank based in Virginia, Paul concluded in his column:

    “Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.”

    “These aren’t my figures,” Paul said this week. “That is the assumption you can gather from” the report.

    He also wrote: “Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action.”

    Paul continued that politically sensible blacks are outnumbered “as decent people.”

    Now, these could be considered pretty damning comments, however as I read them I must admit some things.

    I remember that Ice Cube said you “can’t catch a crackhead” in the movie Fridays speaking on how fast an obviously black crackhead can run when they are stealing something from you.

    On most black Americans lacking knowledge of issues. Well, I don’t know if it is 95% but a lot of black Americans are woefully ignorant. They just blindly believe, support, and vote for Democrats that do nothing but perpetuate a welfare state that keeps them in institutional bondage.

    And our so called “black leaders.” Give me a break…Al Sharpton? Jesse Jackson? They don’t represent me, and they aren’t even good representatives of the Christian faith, not to mention good representatives for the black community.

    In the black community 70% of our children are born out of wedlock….70 PERCENT! Look at the stats…there are a lot of negative things that come out of statistics like this. Bill Cosby is one of the view prominent blacks speaking out on some of these real issues in the black community, but he is ignored.

    Now, do I believe 95% of the black males in D.C. are criminally minded? No, I don’t.

    However, does that mean I like driving around D.C. or would I want to walk around the average D.C. neighborhood? No, I don’t (I actually live in Northern Virginia right now, and most of what I have seen in the predominantly blaxk parts of D.C. remind me of my former neighborhood, Watts. I wouldn’t walk around Watts now, and I wouldn’t walk around certain parts of D.C. unless I absolutely had to.)

    So, Ron Paul may have some valid reasons for making some of his perceived racial comments. However, I would like to hear his proposed solutions for some of these issues.

    As an African American and a bible believing Christian my views tend to be conservative. Unlike most African Americans I vote my Christian conscious, not my race. I voted for George Bush because I felt he was the best candidate at the time and at the time he was the candidate that was closest to the views I held.

    Right now, almost by default, Ron Paul is looking like the best candidate. However, even though I vote my Christian conscious, it doesn’t mean I could support someone who might hold racist views towards African Americans.

    Also, because of my view that jews are the chosen people of God and that the Lord still has a future plan for them I am also pro Israel. There are allegations that Ron Paul has spoken against the “Jewish Lobby”.

    People have said you can be anti-Israel without being anti-Jewish. That is like saying you can be against Zionism without being against the Jews. I don’t believe that either.

    I would really like to support Ron Paul, I just have some questions that I have to have answered before I can whole heartedly support him.

  18. sduff68 said

    Now I remember why I said I couldn’t support Ron Paul.

    I forgot about this information that I found a few months ago. This is why I cannot vote for Ron Paul, despite what he says about treating people as individuals. This is probably also the real reason that David Duke supports him!

    “We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers.”

    “We don’t think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That’s true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such.”

    (Source: Houston Chronicle, May 22, 1996)

    When you look at all the stuff coming out on Ron Paul in context you realize that if he became President he could do a lot of damage and reverse the clock regarding civil rights in this country. He could also hurt the black conservative movement that is finally beginning to grow in this country.

  19. sduff68: You raise good points. I wonder if his racial views have changed? He calls himself a Christian … I just do not see how a regenerated person could have a hardened heart. If this is true about him, then I will have to pretty much support no one. As far as Jews being God’s chosen people … now does that apply to the biological and spiritual descendants of Abraham, or the people that practice rabbinic Judaism? With the former, the answer is clearly yes. But with the latter, I am becoming more convinced that it is a subject of debate, and that we Christians have been sold a bill of goods based on it. I am not on the verge of going replacement theologist and calling Revelation “apocalyptic literature” (meaning that it isn’t true) like Hank Hanigraff, but we Christians have to start considering what the fact that the ark of the covenant was destroyed in 586 BC means for Bible prophecy.

  20. Matthew said

    From what I’ve read online… the report/article with the racist remarks was written by a staffer for Dr. Paul’s newsletter. AND Ron Paul immediately apologized for the oversight… Search for it online… Apparently Ron Paul is NOT a racist.

    However, the American View (John Lofton) had an interesting interview with Ron Paul: http://www.theamericanview.com/index.php?id=926

  21. Matthew: Yeah, I heard that too. That still makes Paul responsible, though, and there also were some unfortunate comments directly attributed to him in interviews. Were Paul to take responsibility and apologize for them, I would forget about it. As it is, Paul is going to be at the Tavis Smiley debate on black issues. That would provide him with an excellent opportunity, don’t you think? Also, note the audio interview with a minister in this book: http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/ron-paul-interview-with-christian-pastor-chuck-baldwin/

  22. Matt said

    Thanks…

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