It is not our job to give opinions that try to taint an image of two people who have a large Christian following. Whether or not they match up to your, I mean God’s standards, is between them and God, and if we address the issue it should come from love and concern without defamation. In the meantime we ought to be happy that despite their family troubles they have been able to grow a flock so large. Aren’t we trying to whiten the harvest here, or what?

These following versus are from the Bible. They tell us how we ought to treat one another. If you’re so into standards you should know that most of the negative comments on this site do not fall in line.

“A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.

“Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather determine this– not to put an obstacle or a stumbling block in a brother’s way.” Romans 14:13

“But each one must examine his own work, and then he will have reason for boasting in regard to himself alone, and not in regard to another.” Galatians 6:4

Lastly, my relationship with Christ is something you cannot begin to understand. Throughout your reply your tone was as if you are the expert and I’m the babe in Christ. What qualifications do you have to suggest someone is still seeking Christ? Just for your information I’ve found Him, better yet, He found me. I think you need to reassess. My relationship with Christ goes beyond the Bible and church. But yet again I can’t begin to explain it. When I say Jesus weeps, I mean the spirit actually came over me as I read the comments on this site and it wasn’t joyous. A prime example is when Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead. Jesus knew the outcome but he still wept. He was still saddened. When you get to that level of understanding and relationship with Christ you’ll be able to relate until then follow the words above. If you are concerned come at the situation with love.. Knowing the end result and watching the situation unfold are two different things.

I would also like to add that people always have something negative to say about a religious leaders who have a large following. How do you think they got this following? By not helping people? By using foul language against God? Or saying something true that our “Helper” would encourage us to embrace. Sometimes I wonder what side the people who attack these leaders are on?

One last thing. Yes our religious leaders have set themselves apart from us by taking on a leadership role. However, they are gods they are human. They should be expected to sin just like humans do. Some of them are not even as close to God as someone who sits in the congregation. There are several pastors and priests who have lost their faith and hold on hoping that it will return.

God Bless.

Rosheeka (carrier of light)

“This took place at a Teach Me How To Love You Conference. What is wrong with a group of grown, single and married, Christian adults learning how to please their spouses and perspective spouses. Please tell me?”

Marital counseling is supposed to take place in private with a pastor that knows the character and spiritual commitment of both couples, not in public in front of a “pastor” that does not know or care about you for the amusement of the hooting and hollering spectators – all of whom paid a lot of money for their entertainment – and to later be sold for profit.

“Please tell me? The church wants to hide everything and not deal with the fact that 50 + percent of all Christian marriages end in divorce.”

Yes, and those divorces include Juanita Bynum and Thomas Weeks who were already divorced once and are going through another one now. While they were holding these conferences, they were having marital problems themselves! Also, I have heard Thomas Weeks on the main Atlanta “gospel” radio station (which is truthfully corporate owned by a company that also owns secular stations and is utterly carnal) “counseling” listeners that were calling in about their problems, and Thomas Weeks was telling a good portion of the listeners that their marriages could not be saved and that they needed to get a divorce! He made these judgments despite A) not knowing anything about or even seeing the person that he was counseling and B) not getting the whole story, only one person’s side of it! Oh yes, and what about the statement of Jesus Christ, which is that there should be no divorce and elsewhere in the New Testament where it says that God hates divorce? What the Bible actually says has no bearing on this false preacher’s advice, doctrine, or life.

“I see nothing wrong with this video at all.”

Of course you do not, because the Bible is not your standard.

“Don’t let the Devil divide and and conquer.”

People who follow false preachers like this have already divided themselves from the true Body of Christ.

“Judge not, lest ye also be judged.”

Jesus Christ told that to the PHARISEES that did not believe in Him. NOWHERE in the Bible is that told to the RIGHTEOUS! Didn’t you read where the New Testament said that we would judge angels? What gave Paul the right to deliver the man living in fornication with his mother to Satan (to kick him out of the church) if he had no right to judge anyone? What gave him the right to write those letters of stern rebuke to the Corinthians and Galatians if he could not judge them?

Do any of you care about the Bible at all?

Hello and good to hear from you.

If the hook don’t get them the net will.

Love,

John

I wanted to, in deed I started to respond to your comments, but John beat me to it and in a better fashion than I would have done. Not that I intended to say anything harsh. At least, not discouraging in anyway.

It is indeed refreshing to read your words and share (again) at least, some of your thoughts. I preceive that your intentions are honorable, however, in my opinion, somewhat misplaced; and I will tell you why. It is not judging to warn new Christians about evil in the world and the length a false prophet will use to serve mammon. You suggest that the Bynums, Weeks, et al are no different than any other Christian, only they stand behind a pulpit. Okay, now see the pulpit is sacred, at least it is supposed to be. And by virtue of the mere fact that the Bynums and Weeks and others choose the pulpit, then, by default they set themselves apart from the rest of us.

I am sure you’ve heard the old adage that: “with leadership comes responsibilities.” Fact is, my God and your God hold these people to a different standard than the rest of us, in a manner of speaking. The NT, Timothy, Titus among others, set the qualifications for those who comes in His name to shepard His sheep. Also, pastors/shepreds have to give an accounting for the sheep unto which he/she leads. Given the group under discussion, what are they going to report? That Bro. Joe Blow or Dea. John Q. Public did not contribute the $300+ that Bynum is reported to have demanded under the guise of being a edict from God? (as you say: a little humor).

Another thing, I think you are mistaken to think my Lord and Savior; Jesus, the Christ is weeping by what is said particularly under this posting. OR! Any posting. My God doesn’t send anyone to hell. You are mistaken to think that He will not know who is who because His sheep know His voice. God has already ordained that and the victory is already won! Praise God!

There were a few other minor points in which I believe you were mistaken, but, even those were not serious and just shows that you are progressing towards perfection. There is no doubt in my mind, that if you stay on the course you are on and continue to seek Him; that in a while from today, say 2,3,or 4 years, you will come to have a more mature view than now. If you don’t believe it, then, keep a diary and compare.

You seemingly have a good heart Rosheeka; I would encourage you to keep your hand in His hand and your eye on the prize, then, watch God “work,” not only in your life, but also, in the lives of those whom you feel are the receipents of undue judgement.

To God Be the Glory,

Charles

Thanks for the email and may God bless you.

There is no problem in being human. We are all sinners and fall short of His glory. Sometimes our sins are grievous and severe. Yet the fact remains when a ministry is orientated around maximizing the dollars coming in that it is a false gospel. For you see the focus has been taken off of Jesus and put upon the dollar bill.

One day soon the whole world economic system will collapse. The two twin towers which served as witness’ to the god of materialism were destroyed. The two towers were not raised in three and a half days as Revelation 11 prophecies, so we must condemn their testimony as false.

When a man abuses the Word of God for his own profit it must be called out for what it is. These people are frauds and fakes subverting the true gospel. Will some come to know Christ through their actions, YES. It is like Paul talks about in his epistles that some preach the gospel out of envy. Paul doesn’t care as long as the gospel is preached. So to anyone who lifts the blood stained banner of Jesus Christ for any reason, I salute you, you are serving my Lord and Saviour.

Love,

John

These pastors, preachers, prophetess, bishops, etc. are human. They preach what God has put in their hearts, but they are still on their spiritual walk. We hold them to a standard that we don’t hold even ourselves to. How can we say, Brother let me remove that splinter in your eye when we have wooden beams in our own? Unless you stand perfect and no One is perfect except God, how can you demand it from others just because they stand at the pulpit?

I will pray for you, I will pray for Juanita Bynum and Thomas Weeks III, and I hope you pray for me and them as well. And please don’t twist my words as judgment, but consider it food for thought. Listen to your heart and you will find the Lord. When I’m in Church and see others praising God, God passes it on to me that he is pleased, at least that’s what I feel. The feelings I said were from God and Jesus (and yes I happen to separate the two) are what they press upon my soul. I am truly blessed. Amen.

Hi hope you are well. This will be long and perhaps in two parts. The first part will be the house and the second the way.

Mathew 21:42, Mark 12:10 , Luke 20:17 and
Acts 4:11 These all say the basically same thing. The one I will quote is Acts 4:11 because it leaves no doubt who they are talking about. I’ll start with verse 10 to get the context. “Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Isreal, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazereth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” I added verse twelve because I like it, a lot!!

So Jesus is the head corner stone. But for what?

1 Peter 2:5 “Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house…..”
So Peter talking to Christians say we are stones being built into a spiritual house.
But read on.

1 Peter 2:7-8 “Unto you therefore which believe He is prescious; but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders dissallowed, the same is made the head of the corner. And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient; whereunto also they were appointed.”

Look at the four descriptions of the cornerstone and this quote. They are talking about the same thing. Read the entire passage of 1 Peter 2 to prove I am not taking things out of context.

We are being built into a spiritual house. Only belivers, true believers, Christians, saints, born again individuals, etc are members of the house.

Christ Jesus is the chief cornerstone. The cornerstone is laid first. It is the most important block. Why? Because when it is put down the rest of the building is based off of the cornerstone. Put the cornerstone in incorrectly and the building won’t turn out right. Once the corner stone is laid it sticks out until the foundation and subsequently the rest of the building is built. Therefore somebody may walk down the street and trip or as the scriptures say “stumble” over the cornerstone. An person who doesn’t understand why the cornerstone is there might get angry at this and it would cause them “offense”. They may even curse the cornerstone!!!

1 Corinthians 3:10-12. “According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation,and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.” Paul is talking to the Church in Corinth. Paul was the person who was a key human instrument in their conversion. What did Paul preach. Jesus Christ and Him crucified. Note that Paul calls Jesus now the foundation. But Paul is an apostle and his writings are part of the Bible. John chapter 1 teaches us that Jesus is the Word. So you can correctly call Jesus or call Him the Word it means the same thing. If somebody used the terminology the Word to refer to themselves it would be blashphemous. Why Jesus is the Word and Him alone.

Ephesians 2:19-21. “Now therefore ye are no more stangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God. And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord.”

Wow!!!!
Look what this is saying. Prophets here are preachers. The apostles and the prophets are laying the foundation. They build on the chief cornerstone which is Christ Jesus. What are they building though? An holy temple.

Now this is a very profound and important lesson. Other scriptures say we are the temple of God. Now this is true individually and collectively.

Let me bring up this point now please. On another blog I was wondering whether Jesus would be here physically when the thousand year reign occurs. He will be in his temple is one answer. Well then according to the Bible the temple of God is the Church. Doesn’t this make more sense than Jesus hanging out in a stone building. It was wondered how could God live in a stone building.

Eden I am so glad that this came up that I examined these things. I have learned much and have been blessed. Another time I will discuss the Way. It is an important concept too! We must be careful how we use words, especially when people take the Bible literally.

May God Bless you.

Love,

John

Well said, and I agree with you, but I have to say that it is up to the person receiving an analogy to look into it and test it. Just as you have done. There are many stories and analogies out there, and if they led directly to scripture, they wouldn’t be parables or analogies. They are meant to get the person to question not only the validity of the particular truth, but also to to give them the chance to test their own understanding of the doctrine they espouse. If you feel I am in error, then I welcome the scriptures that show it as such. But I must caution not to just take one scripture, but to give a thorough balanced understanding provided in the word of God. Proverbs says to rebuke a wise man and he will love you for it. (I paraphrase) So do please show me the scriptures that give the recommended way of showing analogies and parables.

With much love,
Eden